• From: north america
  • Registered: 2005-01-21

Topic: Earth as a unique planet argument

After listening to a recent C2C radio show (Art Bell) and the Irish guest author (promoting his new book 'The Nephilim...')

I thought of a t.v. program I saw a few years ago, where the argument was made by some scientist that the Earth is a very very unique planet (having a moon which controls the tides, being exactly far enough away from a hospitable star which is the uniquely right size of star/sun to provide warmth and energy to the Earth for life to develope, etc) and that there is a mathematical calculation (which the scientist discussed) that determines that for such a planet like the Earth to exist/develope is highly rare and that there probably is no other unique situation like ours that would allow for other star systems with Earth-like planets to develope...

Now, I am also aware of the scientist, Carl Sagan, who said something like, 'there are as many stars (not planets?) out there in the universe and cosmos as there are grains of sand on a beach...'

I know the Christians (various denominations irregardless) that would expound on their belief of the planet Earth being the ONLY planet with life and 'God', angels, saints, demons (fallen angels), Christ, other teachers/avatars, etc...

I also remember reading in the Stuart Wilde book 'God's Gladiators' where he cites the reknowned ufo/paranormal French researcher, Jaques Vallee, as stating that he believed the ufo phenomenon was really 'spiritually-based' in nature as opposed to physical 'nuts and bolts' type craft, and that aliens/ets were really angelic/demonic creatures outside our dimension....

So, with that said, what if all this ufo/alien/et phenomenon and so-called et originating star systems that are commonly mentioned in the ufo/et field and constantly 'channeled' by new age gurus and 'contactees' etc, (Sirius, Draco, Orion, Lyra, Pleiades, Andromeda, Tau Ceti, Alpha Centauri, and so on)--purported to have actual planets with intelligent life/creatures (reptilian, humanoid etc)-- can we really determine that, yes, there are actually in reality, planets rotating around these often mentioned star systems that are hospitable to the development of intelligent civilizations?

Or, is this oft-channeled and talked-about alien/et 'overlords' really just demonic (fallen angel, nephilim) creatures toying with our egos and intellect, and passing themselves off as et's?

Could the Earth be the ONLY planet of choice (ie, life, civilization)?

Will we one day be scientifically adept at detecting (through powerful telescopic tech or SETI listening dishes) another type-0, type-1, type-2 style intelligent civilization out in our universe (Milky Way galaxy) and the overall Cosmos?

Your thoughts please (and any website links that would expound on this),

-Indigo

Christ, the narrow path, saves those willing

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  • From: north america
  • Registered: 2005-01-21

Re: Earth as a unique planet argument

A coincidence occured last nite,

I did not know that at the same time I thought of this question (argument), the National Geographic channel was broadcasting a Naked Science t.v. show of the 'Search for Intelligent Life'.

They mentioned the Drake equation (and its possible problems).

They also seemed to think that, yes, there are certainly other planets (with civilizations) out there somewhere.  Whether they have the ability to travel to Earth was questioned (they failed to mention that other more viable means of transport like 'portal' or 'dimensional' type-tech would be used by potential et's).

I wonder when we will be able to see (via telescopes more advanced than Hubble, that are in current development and deployment) other life-sustaining and civilization-hosting planets (around such commonly reported/discussed star systems as Orion, Sirius, Pleiades, etc).

-Indigo (still searching)

Christ, the narrow path, saves those willing

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  • From: zerone
  • Registered: 2004-08-16

Re: Earth as a unique planet argument

i was conversing with a friend of mine's brother and we got to the topic of String Theory, and some how he came up with this (which stunned me as he is not the metaphysical thinker, or i didnt think he was!) :

he said something to the effect of:
"Aliens, ETs, or Angels-- whatever they are-- they aren't 'out-there' in space-- they are RIGHT HERE, in other dimensions layered on top of our own dimensions"

it made me glad that string theory could have made someone who doesnt normally consider the paranormal/metaphysical-- begin to ponder it.

outer space is cool and all, and im sure there are other lifeforms out there, some uncomprehensible to us, some undetectable to us, and perhaps, just MAYBE, theres a chance that some of them are in our same ballpark, and maybe we could detect them.

theres been some detection of planetoids orbitting other stars, but its still very primitive. it could also be un-true (considering how the major orgaizations tend to be corrupt)

i do however believe that Earth is VERY UNIQUE: in that it seems to be a planet of INTEGRATION. i wouldnt be surprised if the variety found on earth is prototypical (is that a word? if not, i coined it !!) and that other planets with lifeforms are more clean-cut, less varying. howcome images of aliens they all look strikingly alike ? im not so sure... but you get what i mean.

we hear of the STO planets, where everything is lovely, and we hear of the STS planets, where its the domination game. if any of that is true, then Earth is the melting pot.

for example they supposedly spotted something that indicates a rocky planet orbiting around mu Arae in Altar.

its fun to speculate on these things, dont get me wrong. but i think a big part of why nothing can be confirmed is because we have more pressing matters here @ home, rock earth. once we settle things here, i bet life elsewhere will begin appearing to us.

z

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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  • From: north america
  • Registered: 2005-01-21

Re: Earth as a unique planet argument

Interesting comments in regards to these matters (string theory, melting pot, etc)

Yeah, I think we need to solve our problems here on planet 'Earth', and this may eventually lead to some kind of 'acceptance' and/or 'integration'/open-official-revealment-to-the-masses by our immediate neighbors (in our galaxy and universe, within the overall Cosmos), if there are truly indeed other planets with civilizations in the oft-mentioned/cited systems... (and not actually aliens/ets who already co-exist on our 'Earth' and who may have evolved with us in alternate dimensions layered on top of our own...  spirits/angels/demons/ets etc)

-Indigo (almost always searching)

Christ, the narrow path, saves those willing

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  • Solar_Sphinx
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Re: Earth as a unique planet argument

Hmm, I've read some books stating that the Earth is indeed a completely unique planet. One author claims that Earth is really necessary for the entire cosmos, because it is here that the peace and balance is to be worked out between every side... he also talks about how certain alien civilisations have developed too far, and that the key is not to choose the light side or dark side, but to integrate them both... and the only place where this can happen, is in a human incarnation, on planet Earth:) that means that humans are really unique and valuable to all the nordics, pleiadians, orionguys and all... but who knows, maybe that's just propaganda to make people accept being stuck on the planet;)

"...Manjushri said: 'I think that when you can[not] speak of any event, when you neither indicate nor know anything, [and] pass beyond questions and answers, this is to enter gate of oneness. Sir, now please tell us how a bodhisattva enters the gate of oneness.'
And Vimalakirti kept silent, and did not say a word..."

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