Topic: Stewart Swerdlow

I've been doing a bit of research into this Stewart Swerdlow character. I don't think I've heard of him before but as far as I can tell this seems to be the source of all Atlantis' information regarding the Illuminati and Draco aliens. I also can't seem to find one reason why I should take this guy seriously.

I think the following writing from Ken Adachi sums this guy up pretty well:

"...I'm always interested in listening to or reading what Stewart Swerdlow has to say, but bear in mind that Stewart is a (trauma-based program) mind controlled individual; a Montauk Boy. You have to turn your discernment control knob up to number 10 when weighing the accuracy or correctness of his statements. Despite his books, despite the fascinating lectures, depite his hyper psychic abilities (sees auras etc.), despite his weekend training seminars, etc., despite all that, he's still a person who was subjected to intense mind control programming for many years. Fritz Springmeier says that there are THOUSANDS of multible, fail safe programs embedded in such individuals to prevent them from C0MPLETELY freeing themselves from being accessed or influenced by handlers and programmers. That is essentially what Brice Taylor told me in private conversation as well. It's one thing for former mind controlled people to go public and proclaim that they are free of mind control handlers, and yet the reality, when you know the inside story, is not quite that simple. Brice is one of the exceptionally few, high level MC victims to admit it.

That's not to say that Stewart is consciously trying to deceive or mislead.But I believe he is being used and manipulated to say things that serve the Illuminati agenda, especially regards to matters metaphysical. Step back and look at what he's saying about the tunnel of light being produced by high tech equipment in South Africa. Does that sound right to you? How about people who saw the tunnel of light in the 15th or 12th or 8th centruy. Was the equipment operating out of South Africa then too?

I heard Stewart say in his LA talk: that ALL channelled material is coming down from CIA satellites, All channelled material; not one exception. The Virgin Mary doesn't exist, never did, nor does Christ, nor did he ever exist. The appearance of Mary at Fatima in 1917 was a staged Illuminati event (Huh, 1917?) I guess the Blessed Mother was faking it when she appeared to a Mexican peasant boy at Guadalupe in the 15th century too. Boy, those high tech Illuminatis sure do get around when it comes to staging fake Beatific events, heh?
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I'm not going to take the time in this letter to list other examples, but suffice it to say that Stewart has said many things about metaphysical subjects that amount to utter and total nonsense. "

From: http://educate-yourself.org/lte/believe … ay03.shtml

I also found some interesting commentary on Stewart at the Cassiopaea web site, which cleverly uses Serdwells own statement that "All chanelled information is crap because it's a satellite transmission" to prove that what he's saying is just as likely to be crap. http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/swerdlow.htm

Does anyone else know much about this guy? To me it seems very strange that anyone would take this guy seriously.

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Re: Stewart Swerdlow

Here's another letter from the same Ken Adachi page which I think is worth putting here as it very much mirrors my feelings on the subject of conspiracies that do nothing but create fear. This is exactly what the Illuminati want and if you're spreading fearful stories of alien invasions and such like then basically you are serving the agenda of the Illuminati.

Take it away Ken...

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Hi Judy,

Your father's intuition is correct.

The forces of darkness are in their final days upon this planet. While the Illuminati stuff is real, there is an ascension of frequency taking place of the earth itself and everyone on it. We are gradually moving into the next dimension, the fourth dimension. The Illuminati doesn't want that to happen because they cannot remain on this planet and will lose their power and grip on people. The negative aliens behind the Illuminati and the higher Luciferian beings behind those negative aliens don't want us to go into the next dimension, because the Game is over for them ( as far as earthlings go) when we do. So they try to trick you and trip you up with fear so they can capture your soul and keep you imprisoned; enslaved to them. They know they can't stop the ascension of the planet, but they want to take as many people down with them as they can.

Those of the light will be able to move into the new dimension physically intact while those with darkened hearts will age at a faster rate than normal, especially as we approach the 2012-2017 period, and not make the trip. They will not be allowed to reincarnate on earth and will be assigned to a domain that is suitable to their level of spiritual awareness.

The Illuminati is pulling out all the stops to engender FEAR in as many people as possible and to keep it up. Fear/anxiety LOWERS your frequency; prevents the opening up and blossoming of expanded consciousness. That's why everything they put into motion is FEAR BASED. That's why you keep getting these fear stories in the news, SARS, Planet X, the heightened 'terrorists alerts' , etc.. Designed to scare the hell out of you and keep you in a daily panic-assuming you buy into it. And we have all- from time to time-bought into it.

Negativity, cruelty, mean spiritedness, betrayal, addictive habits, inter-family dissention, lasciviousness, wanton behavior, greed, selfishness, self centeredness, etc. Are these not the human traits we associate with Luciferian influences? Are these not the things American TV dwells on? Can a divorce court (and those unenlightened souls who work within them) be called anything but a Killing Ground for husbands, wives and their children? Is the US military being used to 'maintain the peace' and 'protect' America or are they in reality a tool of imperialism for corporate elitists, who place themselves above any law and are never in personal danger? The answers are obvious. Rising awareness creates heightened discernment.

Focus your thoughts and efforts on the positive and don't get sucked in by those pushing the fear buttons. Be aware, yes, but don't be in fear. This sort of attitude and conduct -if exercised by enough people- will cause the NWO game to collapse faster than any other single action. Fighting them, according to their rules, is the dumbest thing you could do. Fighting them brings hatred and they want you to just WALLOW IN HATRED. That's why they always set up the two opposing sides in every conflict that they orchestrate into existence. It serves the dark ones better than anything else. Love, on the other hand, they can't defend against or manipulate to their advantage. Love is the primal, creative force of the universe. In fact, the universe is ruled and shaped into existence by love, spirit, and adamantine particles.

The dark ones cannot create anything. Their power is DERIVATIVE from the God source. They can only derive energy through parasitism. That's why we call them parasites.

Those in the light, enlightened humans, are in fact in the driver's seat and the Illuminati does NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. As we move towards the fourth dimension, our latent, 10 strands of VIRTUAL DNA are slowly manifesting into physicality. With the ACTIVATION of these virtual DNA comes expanded consciousness and greater awareness. It's now dawning upon millions of people worldwide that they can CREATE reality with their thoughts. The Illuminati does NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. That's one of the BIGGEST reasons they keep spraying those chemtrails over your head everyday-to try and prevent your consciousness from expanding and realizing just how powerful a light being you are!

You need to also realize that there are many friendly aliens and higher spirit beings who are aiding us to resist the forces of darkness and thwarting their destructive plans at every turn (Just look at the sort of friendly fourth dimensional help that Don Croft gets in the Adventures of Don & Carol Croft). We would have experienced much more severe earthquakes and volcanic eruptions by now if it wasn't for their assistance. Remember Michael Gordon Scallion had visions of major earthquakes occurring along the west coast around 1996 (?) I think. They never happened. Why? The energy was dissipated with a series of much smaller quakes that most people hardly even noticed.

Another thing. I have from a very 'well connected' source that the dark side will not be allowed to wreck nuclear destruction upon this lovely planet. The God source decided 'nyet" and 'nyet' it will be. So stop worrying about that one too. The devices will not go off. The missiles will not get off the launching pad. It ain't going to happen. The dark side is exiting stage left-whether they like it or not. The Light is flooding in more with each passing day. The Golden Millennium will soon be upon us. It will be like the Garden of Eden

So Dad got it right all along to: " believe there is something good out there"

God Bless you & Dad,

Ken

http://educate-yourself.org/lte/believe … ay03.shtml

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Re: Stewart Swerdlow

What Swerdlow says sounds like disinfomation designed to put seekers in a fear state in order to tenderize them for loosh consumption. Anyone who would write off the spiritual in such a crass way is at least a little bit 'teched in the head, and who knows what else. I also think it's a common demonic ploy to blame spiritual believer's misconceptions and incomplete awareness on technological mind control. The ultimate conclusion would be that God doesn't exist, which is what they want people to believe so that they can run the show unimpeded.

Re: Stewart Swerdlow

Yes, Stuart Swerdlow is definitely not a credible source from what I've learned.

Something else about him which wasn't mentioned was the fact that not only does he say loopy things, but he PLAGIARIZES on top of it.   He steals other people's material and claims it as his own without so much as even a nod in their direction.

It's unfortunate that Mr. Swerdlow was given so much attention in the "Universal Seduction" series.  I found his stories to be, as Stuart Wilde would say, "utter piffle!"   

I'm sure in person he probably comes across as a swell guy, but be very careful when reading his work, like Ken Adachi warns.

btw.....don't you just love Ken Adachi??  !  smile   I do.  He's another one of my faves..........

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: Stewart Swerdlow

Thanks for this topic Ayahuasca,

I'm very interested in serious attempts in debunking Stewart Swerdlow.

Ayahuasca wrote:

I've been doing a bit of research into this Stewart Swerdlow character.
I don't think I've heard of him before but as far as I can tell this seems to be the source of all Atlantis' information regarding the Illuminati and Draco aliens. I also can't seem to find one reason why I should take this guy seriously.

Unfortunately for you, Swerdlow is not my source.

And it doesn't matter if I give more reliable sources, because a lot of the people here are even to lazy to read or check them out.
Besides a very few here are able to read German, Dutch or French.
I'm to tired to switch from language to language and give the lazy Americans, who even have English as their first language, the info they need and do not appreciate.

And much of the conpiracies are organized and managed on American territory under their nose.
It's time Americans are really going to wake up, instead of debunking European informers, before it is to late.

I heard Stewart say in his LA talk: that ALL channelled material is coming down from CIA satellites, All channelled material; not one exception. The Virgin Mary doesn't exist, never did, nor does Christ, nor did he ever exist. The appearance of Mary at Fatima in 1917 was a staged Illuminati event (Huh, 1917?) I guess the Blessed Mother was faking it when she appeared to a Mexican peasant boy at Guadalupe in the 15th century too. Boy, those high tech Illuminatis sure do get around when it comes to staging fake Beatific events, heh?

I think in this case, Swerdlow is correct.

I also found some interesting commentary on Stewart at the Cassiopaea web site, which cleverly uses Serdwells own statement that "All chanelled information is crap because it's a satellite transmission" to prove that what he's saying is just as likely to be crap. http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/swerdlow.htm

Contrary and unfortunately for you, I have to support Swerdlow again: the Cassiopaea stuff is mind-controlling crap and very dangerous.

Does anyone else know much about this guy? To me it seems very strange that anyone would take this guy seriously.

Ayahuasca, I feel sorry to say;

Debunking Stewart Swerdlow is very very difficult.

And I'm often take an attempt in debunking Swerdlow's theories on the spiritual side, which is not easy.
I have not been succesfull in it, yet.

I would give you an advise to first learn much more on metaphysics if you can before you're trying to debunk Swerdlow who is really a to heavy guy for you in this stuff.
I think you still have to learn a lot and that's based on your opening topic-post in "riduculing conspiracy theories" which gave for me the proof you do not even understand the concept of astral sexual vampires.

And please for your own sake, not mine, take this as a positive encouraging influence, to name Montalk's newest vocabulary.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

Re: Stewart Swerdlow

And it doesn't matter if I give more reliable sources, because a lot of the people here are even to lazy to read or check them out.
Besides a very few here are able to read German, Dutch or French.

those are some broad assumptions.

and so is saying that ALL channeled information is CIA manipulated.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

7 (edited by SednaSphere 2005-01-20 10:16:28)

Re: Stewart Swerdlow

Atlantis: please link "astral sexual vampires" to CIA electronic mind contolled religious experiences Swerdlow claims are the only things going on in channeling.

Please explain clearly for we dumb Americans. The thing is, you are throwing alot of interesting and possibly related phenomena together, but if I can't make a clear mental link in my mind due to a clear explanation made, I can't disengage my mind from the programming you claim to want to free us from.

One thing: if you wan't to shock people out of their stupored mind controlled media entrenched mentalities, it would be best not to start by insulting them and calling them names.

A lack of clarity and meandering "escape" clauses does not prove brilliance, awareness, or de-programming. It only proves to others that you lack English language skills, at the very least.

I suggest that you improve your English before trying to dismantle the God concept and sell a CIA mind control conspiracy theory.

Otherwise you will not only be unable to disprove Swerdlow, but even the things we dumb Americans say!

8 (edited by lyra 2005-01-20 10:26:43)

Re: Stewart Swerdlow

Atlantis wrote:

And it doesn't matter if I give more reliable sources, because a lot of the people here are even to lazy to read or check them out.

I'm to tired to switch from language to language and give the lazy Americans, who even have English as their first language, the info they need and do not appreciate......

And much of the conpiracies are organized and managed on American territory under their nose.
It's time Americans are really going to wake up, instead of debunking European informers, before it is to late.

Actually Atlantis, I'll step forward and set the record straight on this comment, because you've sort of hinted at this before, but nobody has bothered to correct it.  But, it's not that we here at Noble Realms don't believe in the conspiracies.   We do.   I think it's safe to say that most of us here are bona fide "conspiracy theorists."   wink   It's not that we think all of the ideas that you present are "crazy", and it's not that we're lazy and are unwilling to do the research. 

If you were to track down the thread in "General Discussion" about what our favorite books are I think you'll be pleasantly surprised about the level of research that many NR members have done.   The list of books that everybody mentioned is incredible.   We're all a well-read group of people.  And if you go to the "Files" section here on Noble Realms you'll see quite a great selection available to choose from.   So, I think it's safe to say that we've "done the research" and we're certainly not lazy.  Add in our own personal experiences with the "weird stuff" on top of it and it's safe to say we know a few things about a few things.  wink 

The point you've been missing is that people here don't have an issue with conspiracies or ideas that are unconventional and "out there".....they seem to have an issue with your posting style in general.   The way in which you present your ideas, and possibly even the language barrier issue (which you mentioned) seems to be a sore point with some of the forum members.  I'm sure it does get tiresome translating into English...I commend anybody who can write long posts when English isn't even their native language.  That's got to be hard, I know.

So, we Americans here at NR are very much aware of the conspiracies going on under our noses, as you say.  We know, we're aware, that's why we are even involved in a forum such as NR.

I think it's also safe to say that none of us need "European Informers", as you call yourself.   We're already informed.  What we DO need here on the forum are people to contribute constructive conversation and idea sharing.....but not somebody who thinks we're all just naive and uninformed and need to be lectured.

I think the biggest mistakes you've made since coming to the forum are   1)   Assuming that we don't know the same things that you know, then,  2) Not acknowledging that your posting style may be causing friction with other posters, and instead, 3)  Claiming that the friction between you and other NR posters is because they are just unaware and lazy and don't want to hear what you have to say, rather than the real problem, which seems to be your posting style.

Just some constructive insights.....

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Re: Stewart Swerdlow

Thank you, and good night!

Re: Stewart Swerdlow

Atlantis wrote:

Thanks for this topic Ayahuasca

You're welcome smile

Unfortunately for you, Swerdlow is not my source.

So who is?

Anyway you did mention Swerdlow as a source in one of your recent posts, and seeing as though this guy is one of the few people peddling all this Draco crap, I think you're being a bit dishonest there.

And it doesn't matter if I give more reliable sources, because a lot of the people here are even to lazy to read or check them out.

I think you're very mistaken there. As Lyra stated we're not lazy at all and we're very open to any information just so long as the sources are good. You've yet to provide us with any good sources.

I'm to tired to switch from language to language and give the lazy Americans, who even have English as their first language, the info they need and do not appreciate.

If that's how you feel then perhaps Noble Realms isn't the right forum for you to be in. It's an English language forum and English is the only language most of us understand.

It's time Americans are really going to wake up, instead of debunking European informers, before it is to late.

Actually Atlantis, I'm a European as well. A dumb lazy Brit.

Contrary and unfortunately for you, I have to support Swerdlow again: the Cassiopaea stuff is mind-controlling crap and very dangerous.

By his own admission Swerdlow is a pretty serious Illuminati mind-control victim. How, therefore, can anything he say be taken seriously? How do you know he isn't still being mind-controlled? Absolutely every that comes out of his mouth is probably Illuminati disinfo, and most probably is.

Ayahuasca, I feel sorry to say; Debunking Stewart Swerdlow is very very difficult.

Actually I think it's very very easy.

And I'm often take an attempt in debunking Swerdlow's theories on the spiritual side, which is not easy. I have not been succesfull in it, yet.

Well you can't be trying very hard mate. I managed it in 30 seconds, it was simple!!

I would give you an advise to first learn much more on metaphysics if you can before you're trying to debunk Swerdlow who is really a to heavy guy for you in this stuff.

Well I do appreciate your advice, but I won't be taking it I don't think. You're probably right, Swerdlow is just too heavy for me and my feeble mind will probably never be able to understand the kinds of things he's saying. Nevermind aye.

I think you still have to learn a lot

You bet I have a lot to learn, but then again, who doesn't?

and that's based on your opening topic-post in "riduculing conspiracy theories" which gave for me the proof you do not even understand the concept of astral sexual vampires.

Maybe you're right and I don't understand the concept of astral sexual vampires, but d'ya know what? I really really couldn't care less right now. In fact if I was to create a list of all the things that I really really don't want to know about. I'm sure astral sexual vampires would be pretty high up on that list! Perhaps even Number 1!

Andy

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11 (edited by Atlantis 2005-01-21 13:31:56)

Re: Stewart Swerdlow

Lyra, Ayahuasca, Sednasphere, and everybody here,

Wow, I think, I'm starting to love you all buddies.

How wonderfull to see you all pick up my words and give a real good though response to me.

Of course, I forgive you all the hard words you sometimes have to me, but the circumstances & challenges against the NWO are hard too.

I enjoy the sportman like Ayahuasca in his latest reaction (Brittish !) in giving a good reply and self-criticism.

Lyra, thanks for encouraging the forum guests and it's quality. I appreciate your efforts on thid forum.

And Lyra, I have to admit, sometimes my style is indeed deliberately "attacking", because I feel this forum needs
to be counterbalanced against to many "love stuff", "flower power styles", "fear is bad"-propositions.
Remind, if fear is REAL and RATIONAL, then fear is a positive warning energy to act on !   

Please forgive me, if you think I'm provoking to much.
It's not my intention to belittle the Americans, forgive me again.
I sometimes just think a kick under their butts (not yours ! sorry), can be needed.
But who am I to do this ? So, I have to be reasonable too. 
In fact I beg the Americans to regain their selfconfidence.

The Americans as a nation is the strongest force big enough with their unified language and culture to take the leadership
to free mankind (possible in peace) on this planet. What I was writing about Americans can also be done about Germans etc. etc.

My English must be improved, I know, also my keyboard striking. I'll do my best.

And, I also have to handle with a difference between American language styles and Brittish/English styles.
Esp. on conspiracy websites and reading provoking stuff.
It's very difficult to feel which words I can use in combination with telling "incredible" stories which are at least "not standard".

In general for me, reading in English is much easier than writing (as with all languages).

On-topic: Stewart Swerdlow is very interesting and it's very healthy to be skeptic with him,
On the other hand his info opens a lot of new insights and cutedging ways in conspiracy/metaphysical subjects.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

Re: Stewart Swerdlow

Atlantis wrote:

Of course, I forgive you all the hard words you sometimes have to me, but the circumstances & challenges against the NWO are hard too.

I don't have hard words for you.......!  smile   Constructive criticism, maybe, but not hard words!   big_smile  Like I said, I don't have a problem with your posts overall.   I may not agree with them, but I do get a sense of a real person behind the words, so, there you go...


Atlantis wrote:

And Lyra, I have to admit, sometimes my style is indeed deliberately "attacking", because I feel this forum needs
to be counterbalanced against to many "love stuff", "flower power styles", "fear is bad"-propositions.
Remind, if fear is REAL and RATIONAL, than fear is a positive warning energy to act on !

I agree...fear has its place as a warning that something is wrong, or off, or that there is danger.  We speak of a different type of fear though......the type that keeps a person locked up in their homes, afraid of imaginary threats that don't exist.  Also, when people are afraid of change, or have fear of the unknown which keeps them paralyzed and stagnating and feeling powerless in life.....that's the kind of fear we speak of.   The Powers That Be spend a lot of time trying to get people in that type of fear mode, feeling scared, powerless, helpless & useless.   They used to keep everybody afraid of "WWIII" and being nuked.   Now it's terrorism and Ay-rabs, and comets and tsunamis.  ("Experts say that a tsunami could hit the West Coast!!"....."Experts say comet strike to Earth is imminant!"....."Experts say that another 9/11 level event could happen any day now!"......"Experts say that terrorists have adopted new methods for hijacking airplanes!!!!".....)  It's always a new thing to be scared of with them.  And they use the television as their #1 tool to convey this fear.



Atlantis wrote:

My English must be improved, I know, also my keyboard striking. I'll do my best.

Well, don't kick yourself or feel bad about it.......!   I think it's commendable for anyone to even attempt to write posts in English when English doesn't come easy for them....


Atlantis wrote:

In general for me, reading in English is much easier than writing (as with all languages).

Same here......I can read Spanish just fine.......but don't ask me to speak it or write it!   big_smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: Stewart Swerdlow

Thanks for that last post, Atlantis.

It seems like I feel a different "vibe" coming from you.  Thanks for being open.

Re: Stewart Swerdlow

Athough I am new on this board, I would like to add somewhat.

I have some experience with the New World Order (Illuminati- as they call themselves, and to which most researchers now refer to them as).  FYI- Just yesterday, I happened to catch George W. Bush and his inaugural speech.  In front of his father, former president H.W., he again refered to the NWO -only calling it the New Order of the Ages (as the creating American founders did).  You'll remember, H.W. was one of the first presidents (that I know of) who openly used the term NWO and which subsequently was caught on by conspiracy researchers/authors in the late 80s and early 90s.

I have been somewhat 'awake' dating back to 1990, when I rebelled against the Iraq War (1st) and declared conscientious objector status (then summarily discharged 'honorably' -due to my notable service up until that point -I joined the US Army in 1988).

I do have to agree with Atlantis on some of his posts thus far including this one.

I was stationed in Korea and I have travelled somewhat extensively as a civilian too.  I do know that many foreign nationals have a distinct advantage in language skills over Americans.  While in Korea, I used to speak a little French and German to throw off anti-American student radicals and such.  I had a very tumultuous affair with a potential anti-American North Korean who got me into alot of trouble and may have eventually contributed to a later psychotic break after returning home.  She had relatives in Canada and God only knows how much reptilian co-horts (she remarked once flipantly while the sci-fi tv series 'V' was playing that she admired 'Diana' the reptilian outwardly looking human leader character).  I could describe other experiences I've had in regards to encountering the 'enemy', but for now I will not go there.

I want to say that it can be very disturbing to be sitting say for instance in a bohemian or radical like cafe and being talked about in another language where you do not know what the h*** they are saying about you, ---it puts you at an extreme disadvantage.  Needless to say, I gave up further pursuing any Spec Ops recruitment and espionage work after my experiences in Asia.  Believe me, I have not read too much material about Japan and Korea and China, but from what I have, I gather that in Asian cultures -the dragon motif and myths/figures are respected and admired and viewed differently (benevolently).  As British author David Icke says, (paraphrasing) 'not all serpent-dna influenced/experienced humans are evil or working for reptilian forces, only factions of them are'.  He further states that although he details mainly the European/American/WesternWorld reptilian/other alien forces, he is sure there are other strongholds of serpent/dragon/reptilian/orion/draco in the world and in other star systems as well.  I have been to Europe and have found that there are some truly intelligently informed people there who are better educated in various fields including those of ancient Old World power struggles.  The New World and America does tend to be (in my ongoing experience) more brainwashed and in a hypnotic kind of consumer driven state of affairs.

That said, there are still many Americans who are 'waking up'.

Atlantis--

I noticed that you mentioned in one of your posts (this one maybe?), that you said that the organization known as trufax.org on the web (and who have written about Aryan/Nordic/German elements in their materials like Matrix 5 etc) are to be taken with caution...  --could you elaborate why you point this out? it would be appreciated as I am familiar with some of their ideas/theories (and do not agree with them all -though I find them interesting).

I would like to further state that over the years I have gathered quite a large collection of materials (since 1991) from religious, spiritual, metaphysical, paranormal, intelligence, contacts, new age, supernatural phenomenon, web, and other sources.  Too many to begin to list (although maybe I will go thru my records and inventories soon and post back in the other thread about files).

I adhere (after some very dubious and misleading experiences with) to the fact that much new age channeled info is simply attention-seeking mis/dis info on the part of higher/multi-dimensional beings who take pleasure in playing with gullible so called light-working humans.  Then you have the tech oriented forces who can mimic spiritual forces and deceive just as expeditiously efficatiously.

I among other friends/contacts within the ex-military community view much feel-good sources/forces are truly misleading dangerously a fair proportion of the so called new age community to serve their own nefarious agendas. I have been misled myself and constantly struggle with every source I research/read and investigate, trying to utilize logic and skepticism in a field which can get very fascinating/captivating and involved (spiritually and mentally).

I have met former members of Spec Ops (Blue, Green, Black Berets, Air and Army, Navy Forces) that do indeed confirm to me the nature and disturbing truth behind the NWO and ufo/alien agendas conflicts.  I attended briefly a very liberal-arts college founded by an ex-Navy officer that had underground tunnels and entrances and secret societies.  I told the name of the college to someone I met within the VA (Vets Affairs) system and he told me to stay away/get out of that college, and I did (after some very bizarre and malevolent experiences there).

I have met people that have been silenced (eventually killed, I have known at least 3 'suicide' victims, and others that have been put away in mental institutions, and others that simply have 'disappeared' for speaking out about such things).  I have learned to no longer fight the agendas, but merely distance myself and inform myself thru observational tactics the ongoing wars.  Its the only way I have learned to cope with some of my truly bizarre and stigmatized (freaks, spies, aliens, vampires, lycan/wolves, Sirians, Orions, Dracos, Reptilians etc) experiences/knowledge.

I do accept that their are benevolent forces (angels- who may indeed be real and not just aliens masquerading as angels) that are helping us, yet there are also purely satanical/luceferian malevolent forces also at work (aka demons or fallen angels/et's).

As far as Stewart Swerdlow and the Peter Moon Sky Books/Montauk Series goes, I tend to (after direct gnosis/experience) accept it (with some skepticism).  I do indeed possess and have read all this series of books and it just 'feels' instinctually gut-like right-on.  Even as dangerous, and debatable, or scary it might be.  Fear does indeed serve the Illuminati and there are some really effective agents (matrix-grid-world) out there, but I feel this series is on track (including the Nazi-NWO, underground cavern and bases, undersea and lake, desert, mountain bases, and Time Travel related components).

I am a forward observer on a backwards planet (is what I like to say).

BTW- I tend to be a bit 'spooky' and tend to fit in better in the Scandin-avian and German/British regions.

Please try not to be put off by my nature.

Thats my input so far.
-Indigo

Christ, the narrow path, saves those willing

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Re: Stewart Swerdlow

Hey, welcome here Indigo,

Your additions here are very usefull in this topic.

Stewart Swerdlow has something to say;
I put very much efforts to find his real "weaknesses".
Well, the only weakness I found, yet, he is to open and to honest.
i.e. I would personally never tell my sexual fantasies to everybody in a direct way.

He knows he is/was programmed, but he also knows how to be deprogrammed.
And your Gnostic experiences, Indigo, can help in understanding the stuff of Swerdlow.

If you think you're a MK-Ultra victim, don't worry;

I think everybody in the Western population is a MK-Ultra victim in some way.
And you know by reading in this forum how you can release any victim mentality.

indigo wrote:

Atlantis--

I noticed that you mentioned in one of your posts (this one maybe?), that you said that the organization known as trufax.org on the web (and who have written about Aryan/Nordic/German elements in their materials like Matrix 5 etc) are to be taken with caution...  --could you elaborate why you point this out? it would be appreciated as I am familiar with some of their ideas/theories (and do not agree with them all -though I find them interesting).

Yes, the stuff is interesting, because it opens your mind and creativity for new insights.
But, this doesn't mean it is save stuff.

Be very carefull with the crap regarding experiencing the 28 to 32 astral levels/Robert Monroe outcomes etc.

In one sentence: NEVER, NEVER attempt serious deliberate/forced astral travelling these days.
We are not in ancient times anymore, when this was more save (but still dangerous), without ELF-technology or mobile phone antenna's.

BTW- I tend to be a bit 'spooky' and tend to fit in better in the Scandin-avian and German/British regions.

????

i.e is "Bei Uns ist alles besser" a trigger for you ?

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.