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"MAITREYA appears, 'out of the blue', to people everywhere -- always in a form that inspires recognition. In this way he seeks to prepare us for his public emergence, and to communicate his teachings and priorities for a just world. His first such appearance was on 11 June 1988, in Nairobi, Kenya to 6,000 people who saw him as Jesus Christ. "
I'll post some links and let each make up their own mind.
i know a very smart and spiritual person who totally digs this guy, the books etc. and not in a i-believe-everything or i-want-to-believe kind of way.
i totally do not understand this about this smart person myself (yet).
so in order to understand it i'll meet mr. creme this year to check it out and make up my own mind... one thing is for sure i'd never would be as interested in the maitreya if i hadn't seen the passion of the aforementioned smart and spiritual person i know. so i look into it mostly because i want to understand what and how, why the maitreya has the meaning he has to others.
funny that you mention it as i came across mention of him in public yesterday :-) (which is the case only once every four months or so).
perhaps i am mistaken but i don't think there is a relationship between the first and second link you posted; creme's matreya seems to be a different one then margaret's maitreya.
perhaps i am mistaken but i don't think there is a relationship between the first and second link you posted; creme's matreya seems to be a different one then margaret's maitreya.
Yes, I did know that. There are many mentions of the Maitreya Buddha in Buddhism, and many new age websites reference the name. I put that link there to show some of the other mentions of "Maitreya" as a (so-called) spiritual master etc.
According to the Cassiopaeans the Maitreya thing is merely a
distraction to delude people and blind them to what's really
going on.
TP
One thing that turned me off about this version of Maitreya:
According to the Ageless Wisdom, the anti-christ is not one individual who lives at a certain point in time, but is an energy released before the advent of the Christ. It comes to pave the way for the building forces of the Christ by destroying the old crystallized ways that block new growth for society. While the anti-christ is an energy, it does manifest through individuals and has done so at different times throughout history, most notably through the emperor Nero in Roman times, and more recently through Hitler and some of his closest associates. With the defeat of the Axis powers during World War II, the work of the anti-christ energy was completed for this age and will not manifest again for over 3,000 years.
Also, there is nothing among the signs and miracles claimed on the site that cannot be duplicated by 3D for 4D STS, and in fact they are the standard modes of deceptions by same.
Okay Tom, you either beat me to it or read my mind.
Or I picked it up when you were thinking it.
All these "miracles" aren't so miraculous when you
consider all the illusions available to the 4D STS
technologies. So, to me, the only thing you can
depend on is your core being's ability to discern
objectivity from the smoke and mirrors.
TP
I agree, if something doesn't feel right, then use your brains and figure out where it's going wrong. Another thought I had in regards to Creme's Maitreya is that this figure is too much an antichrist candidate, as though this is staged to make the smarter Christians/Catholic naturally suspect Maitreya MUST be the antichrist. But what if Maitreya is neither the Christ nor antichrist, just a decoy -- then those who believe one or the other possibility will be deceived, as they will overlook the REAL antichrist whoever/whatever this may be.
This thread does tie in closely with another thread:
http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1123
about holographic technology. I posted an excerpts from Allies of Humanity discussing the idea of a Maitreya-like figure appearing and doing just what Creme predicts.
There are, and have been, plenty of figures like this Maitreya. Meher Baba, Sai Baba, Krishnamurti - however, Krishnamurti was proclaimed an avatar by others, and he later renounced this title. With the latter exception, there have been so many people claiming to be "god incarnate" and christ reborn, but the majority of them have been exposed as hacks, frauds, and child molesters (Sai Baba).
There was another fellow who's name currently eludes me, an indian with no hair other than on the sides of his head, who also believes he is the living embodiment of godhead; his courses and seminars cost in the hundreds, he has released many hardcover and expensive books, which begs the question: if this person is "God", then why does he need our money?
It is humans playing on other humans need to feel justified.
I remember reading about Sai Baba that he would walk through a crowd
shaking his opened hands toward the ground and this grey material
would seemingly emanate from his hands. Analysis of this stuff turns
out to be ashes. Now here's someone who is getting assistance from
behind the curtain.
TP
My sense of maitreya has been "fraud" from the start of when I first heard about him and did some research. I am still learning how to discern such things for myself but this was really a gut reaction. I also have heard (Benjamin?) Creme talking about him a few times and each time, it sounded, for lack of a better term, "creepy."
If anyone here listens to coasttocoastam: do you remember the guest that had a private meeting with Creme about maitreya? It was a few years back. Cannot recall his name right now. When I heard that interview it seemed to confirm my concerns. Much talk about energy stealing and a black crystal that Creme had in the a room that he kept and used in really wierd ways. All in the name of maitreya.
Ultimateley, whatever this being/manifestation is, I believe it is a deception.
And, yikes! I have heard about Sai Baba but do not know much about him-had not heard before about his harming children. I have met people that say he is their guru/teacher.
The only current "living saint" I really know about and do believe is true is Amachi (I believe Mother Theresa was also a living saint).
One of her ashrams is in the wilderness, in the outskirts of Santa Fe. I have visited a few times. I would recommend the video about her life called:
"RIVER OF LOVE."
A very interesting story and pays much homage to the Femine/Universal Mother Aspect of the All That Is.
I am also (forever, still) continuing o read "The Autobiography of a Yogi." Also a very interesting story and a good read. Very long but I take it in snippets.
I don't believe in saints or saviors,good or bad, because if you know who you are then you also know there is nobody to save. There is only consciousness and that is the light you are self. When you come to the conclusion that memory is the content of consciousness, then you will see that everything comes from memory can never be the truth...
The mind is a tricky thing because it splits everything up, that create good/bad , high/low , black/white and go on, it is a usefull tool to operate in the world, but it can never never say anything about life and how you must life or whatever.
If you have this knowledge and use it against people you can make yourself a "god" and that is the reason why there is so much suffering in the world, but then again the people who use this knowledge don't know the whole story apparently, but that i can't say for sure.
As a side note, the sense of i comes also from memory so if you look closely there is no I, only consciousness.
That's all in a nuttshell.
But everything is good as it is. I wish everybody a nice day 
Thankyou Thoth, same to yourself.
Hello Toth:
Nice to meet you (o:
When I was in Denmark, some years back, I was surprised the first time I was saying "so long"/"goodby" to someone they responded with, "Hi, hi." [anyone on this forum in Denmark right now?]
Turns out this is a casual or colloquial way, as my friends there explained, of yep, saying "goodby," "bye bye," "so long" and such......I was charmed by this, also took it inward and decided it was sort of a waking dream for me (like life anyway, I believe) with symbolism, some kind of sweet message for me to hold in my heart.
In 'my world' saints, saviors, healers, etc are, simply people who arrive to remind us of not just who we are but more that that, what we are. They, in my estimation, remember or never forgot this themselves while on the earth. And are in a sense a blessing or a form of grace that invites us to know or recall our nature and essence. And the purest of them are humble and know that we are them and they are us in that bigger picture. I believe they have a compassion that ultimately we are all capable of at some point in our own evolution. Myself, I have only had one very strong day of feeling that way about people in the world close to me and at large, all at once, and I do not really know how to describe it. Not yet anyway. I never knew I could have such a feeling, had no conscious, subjective reference for it or concept of it before. And I long to feel that way again. Similar feeling as when I had the unzipping experience but with a different 'focus' so to say. Instead of going from outward to inward I went from inward to outward - those words do not really do these experiences justice but I can offer that it was like exprencing a different side of the same coin.
I also rememer how liberating it was for me when I learned that meditation [with respect to the notion that there are different kinds and intentions of outcome, and some are just a natural way for some people to get still without overthinking it] is not limited to any one form or meaning either. For some people it appears that gardening or playing golf or fishing is their meditation. I think that is fantastic.
One of my favorite tapes to listen to is Gregg Braden's "The Lost Mode of Prayer." It is also a book. Really helped me to expand my own definition of what prayer is and/or can be. Not only expanded my understanding but also actually assisted me with tossing off the veil of limitation about how I can pray in ways that are actually more effective that what I had been taught. I value my foundation and have been delighted to experience an ever expanding view of my spiritual life.
Being here, at Noble Realms and on Montalk is also already contributing to that, for me, as well. The shackles are falling away more and more each day..........
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Hey Iriana
Myself, I have only had one very strong day of feeling that way about people in the world close to me and at large, all at once, and I do not really know how to describe it. Not yet anyway. I never knew I could have such a feeling, had no conscious, subjective reference for it or concept of it before. And I long to feel that way again. Similar feeling as when I had the unzipping experience but with a different 'focus' so to say. Instead of going from outward to inward I went from inward to outward - those words do not really do these experiences justice but I can offer that it was like exprencing a different side of the same coin.
Do you mean with that the experience of the feeling of oneness?
With that i mean you feel conected to the whole...
Because i have that to experienced a couple of times, but when that happens there is no I DO there is only Do without a somebody that does a thing.
The reason i ask this is because you say you long again for this experience... And that is the "problem" there is a person who want's something. But how can you long for something that you are?
Don't get me wrong her because if it comes see it as a present, and if it is not there then it is also good because it is not bad.
Saviors imply that there is somebody to save and he/she must do it for you, and that is just ridicules because there is nobody to save in the whole world. It is all a big lie, there is nobody in the whole world to save you, you are already perfect, there is nothing wrong with anybody, there is no reason to improve youre self because then you say there is something wrong with you.
Culture expect that you are good and do everything that is "normal", the church expect that you comply to god rules, youre parents or friends want other things you do, otherwise you are not welcome anymore...
If you see this and also see that this is making you not a whole human but a little person who is scared what others thinks and all the other things it is making you feel, then the only thing you can do is walk away with al that kind of crap...
I must say when i was "improving" myself it was a really big selfish trip and i enjoyt it when i did it and that was the hardest thing to face up... That i was not better then anybody else or whatever.
All i can say now is there is nothing to do...
The only reason i say this is because i don't want you all to search for anything and many years later you come to the conclusion that there was nothing wrong and there was nothing to search for...
You can do what you like, i don't say you must obey me or something like that...
This is my last post so if you have any questions then i will reply them for you, and otherwise bey
Here's a link about Benjamin Creme I posted on the wiki:
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