1 (edited by aaronfirebrand 2004-04-28 02:02:33)

Topic: colloidal silver

I have a depressed immune system resulting from a bout with hepatitis 30+ years ago. Since that time, I have been the victim of "every bug in the jungle" and I must be careful about being exposed. About 5 years ago, I became aware of colloidal silver. I purchased a generator for $75 and have been using it regularly since then. I've never experienced any negative effects from using it, and I can count the times I've been ill on one hand. According to the "government" (henceforth referred to as 'uncle john') I cannot make any claims  for the efficacy of CS regarding health issues. But in these days of superbugs and uncontrollable disease, I would be morally remiss if I failed to inform others who may be in great need of alternative help. The late Dr. Bob Beck has a website (URL available if desired) which provides the device design; the generator can be built for less than $25. I use .9999 pure silver wire (actually 'food grade' silver) which will cost approximately $15 for many years' worth. Once you have the generator complete, distilled water  and replacement batteries are the only expenses. I think CS is amazing. I use it for everything from health maintenance to disinfectant. It's unsurpassed as a mouth rinse. Essentially it kills more than 650 disease-causing pathogens; virus, bacteria & fungus all succumb to the mighty silver! It was tested on a 'cousin' of anthrax and was effective. Restrictions prevented testing on actual anthrax, but the supposition is that it would be effective! CS does not produce resistant strains as antibiotics do. A few drops in a gallon of dubious water will destroy most harmful bacteria in about 6 minutes. Actually CS, or versions thereof, were used before the advent of antibiotics (which at the time were cheaper, but aren't now). When settlers came west, silver coins were placed in the milk containers to retard spoilage. The reason many aristocrats survived plagues was because they used silver utensils. I believe that the last line of defense against bio-intruders is Colloidal Silver. As an aside, it has also been shown to dissolve implants (and I'm not referring to hip replacements). I have a story to share on that at a future date. I just remembered why I posted this after visiting lyra's acid/alkaline food link. CS does one other cool thing. It generally reduces acidity and raises alkaline levels in the body.

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I make the stuff at home. If I feel poopy, I slug down a couple of ounces a few times a day and I feel much better. I also have a penchion for injuring myself. Last time I spilled boiling hot coffee on my foot, the wicker tray fell through. I applied CS and DMSO and I have no scarring. Not to mention the healing rate was phenom. This is good stuff, man!

" Then it was, then again it will be. And though the course may change sometimes rivers always reach the sea." Robert Plant

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Oh amd please sharethe story on the dissolved implant. I had the most vivid dream months ago of removing an implant  from between my ears. It was freaky, I could feel it coming out even when I woke up.

" Then it was, then again it will be. And though the course may change sometimes rivers always reach the sea." Robert Plant

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Ah! the implant. Well, let me make it abundantly clear that I have no actual documented medical proof that what I had was an implant of any sort, but I rarely see doctors. They're a little like the "genius bar" at apple tech support. By the time you've dealt with them, you've already figured out the problem. For many years I sensed that at some point I had been "tagged" with some kind of device which interfered with living my life. I knew nothing about the concept except what little I read in magazines like Paranoia (a digest-style mag dealing with all sorts of strange things). Then one day I noticed a growth on the skin over my jaw just forward of my earlobe. My right brain was saying "cyst", but my MVP left brain was shouting "implant slipped". That was my intuitive leap, that it was an implant which slipped from position and was working it's way out. It was about this time that I began using colloidal silver. After about a year or so, I noticed that the growth has become reduced. Another six months and there was no trace of it. Now I'm sure there are many explanations for what it was, but I became intrigued by implants (intuition a-leaping) and started to really investigate. Ultimately I chanced upon a fellow named Fritz Springmeier who has written lengthy books on mind control, the illuminati, ritual abuse, and so on. At the time the books were all out of print, so I was trying to wade through thousands and thousands of printed out pages. More of a hobby than anything, I suppose. Imagine my surprise when I came to the paragraph or so devoted to CS. He nonchalantly informs that CS has been known to dissolve implants! Thunderstruck is what I was, I'll tell you what. By the way, Fritz is now in prison for several years, which is unfortunate for the people he was trying to help. He was a therapist for some of the mind control victims who are now speaking out. And he was framed, I do believe, because he was an actual threat to the 'new weird odor'. Google his name for some interesting reading. Before I forget, I want to tell you about my initial experiences with CS. I got so into the effect I was getting that I may have overdone it a bit. Nothing bad, but I was taking so much silver that I began to experience what I called "the silver bell/chime effect". It felt like any vibrations entering my system were muted somewhat and I could feel a chiming sensation within my system. Thinking about it, I guessed that my body was permeated by these tiny silver particles and they were responding like millions of silver bells (nanobells?). I reduced my intake and the effect disappeared (or I got used to it). But noises which usually disturbed me (low frequencies from subwoofers and elsewhere) were not a problem. They just "rang my bell" is all. Have you had a similar experience?

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No I can't say that I have. Not with silver anyway. How much were you taking? I have similar experiences, I suppose, like hearing music, voices, and being sensitive to certain pitches, but I never attributed it to silver. Mostly because I never took alot at one time over an extended time, and actually never would have put the two together. Got any mercury amalgams in your choppers?

" Then it was, then again it will be. And though the course may change sometimes rivers always reach the sea." Robert Plant

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Not any longer!

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Aaronfirebrand:  could you tell me how to make it, where to get it, etc., or offer up a link that gives reliable instructions and health information?  I read your post and did some searching online.  it sounds pretty intriguing, and i think i'd like to try it.

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I made this diagram with instructions to show how to make colloidal silver the easiest way possible:

http://www.montalk.net/colloidal_silver.gif

It shows the basic principle - three nine volt batteries in series connected to two .9999 pure silver wires immersed in hot distilled water. The current rips off silver ions which then become colloidally suspended in the water.

Another method is to use room temperature water, but add a couple grains of salt as the conducting electrolyte to get things going. This creates a milky instead of a clear golden solution. It makes larger particle sizes and there's risk of creating silver chloride.

Yet another method is to use one battery, down to six volts even, and put an air bubbler in the glass to agitate the water.

I use the first method. Creates a slightly bitter clear to golden colored solution. Works great. Saves money compared to commercial bottled versions which go up to thirty dollars an ounce. Here, you can make it for a dollar a gallon.

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And here I'm still looking for the site I can't find! Montalk, you're a blessing. Heat accelerates the chemical reaction, but avoid using salt (even sea salt). Just use several drops of your previous batch in heated water to help speed up the reaction. Never refrigerate CS, as the particles will lose their charge, and become potentially harmful. Owning a  CS generator is like having a hospital you can carry in your pocket.

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Hi aaron, and everybody,

I can definately attest to the miracles of colloidal silver.  First off, aaronfiresbrand, your post was fascinating, concerning the dissolved implant.  Holy cow!  Is there nothing this stuff won't cure?!  smile   All I can say is, we don't necessarily need to go to doctors and take their costly pharmaceutical company funding prescriptions and antibiotics.  The system tries to make us think we do, but we don't.   

I really do recommend for everybody to get colloidal making supplies on hand and learn how to do it, in the event the Powers That Be outlaw natural supplements in the future.  Like aaron said, this stuff seems to kill EVERYTHING.   I thought that was interesting reading about how in the past the silver utensils may have played a part in killing Plague in the upper class.   I didn't even think of that.  (just think, the upperclass got the Silver Wonder Utensils - they hold food, they kill viruses, they do it all! --  while the lower class had plates and utensils made out of lead.  hmmmm.......)   Thought it was also interesting how your body started reacting to vibrations differently when it was flooded with silver.

On a sidenote:  I just want to recommend to everybody that anytime you're taking any sort of anti-bacterial / microbial agent, remember to replenish your body's probiotics.   See silver, and any antibacterial / antibiotic agent wipes out ALL bacteria in your system....even the good stuff that resides in your intestines and which is needed for healthy digestion.   Antibiotics don't discriminate.    If you don't replenish with a Probiotic supplement, you'll have digestion trouble down the line.  This is very important if you plan to start using silver.

But back to aaron's implant story....................Anybody interested in starting a thread about implants?  Where we could post personal stories, or thoughts, ideas and reference materials about it?   I think this is an interesting topic in itself, and I'm interested to hear more of your story aaron.  I think much of the population is implanted, whether they realize it or not.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Acidophilis (in yogurt, or standalone supplement) is good for maintaining healthy intestinal flora. What I read a year ago was that, as long as the CS has been produced properly and particle size is correct, the CS will enter the bloodstream before it has a chance to kill good bacteria in the gut. As to the implant, That's pretty much all I have on it. I agree, lyra, that large numbers of people have been implanted. Remember, the elite are about 30-50 years (just a guess) ahead of the hoi polloi (especially technology). My suspicion is that, if it indeed was an implant, it was placed inside me about 50 years ago. Or maybe as recently as 1970. An implant thread would be great, as I have a sense it could attract some real information.

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Aaron wrote:

Heat accelerates the chemical reaction, but avoid using salt (even sea salt). Just use several drops of your previous batch in heated water to help speed up the reaction.

Wow, that's a great idea. I'll try that next time. Right now I don't make it often enough to use some from the previous batch, but will get back into maintenance-dosage of colloidal silver.

There was a time when I drank the thickest colloidal silver solution using salt on a daily rate for years - and my skin has not turned blue as claimed would happen by the opponents of colloidal silver use, which is the only argument they have. They commonly use the example of Rosemary Jacob who now unfortunately looks like Edward Scissorhands due to her once taking silver - however, she took silver nose drops made using a non-electrical process that naturally creates so large a silver particles that they accumulate in the skin and turn it blue gray.

It is claimed that the electrolytic method of colloidal silver (the ones we're discussing on this thread) do not cause this problem. I'm not blue yet, so that settles it for me who's right and who's wrong. The pharmaceutical industry stands to lose lots of money if more people use colloidal silver, so of course they'd invest money in getting guys with PhD's and M.D.'s to ridicule its use.

Lyra wrote:

Anybody interested in starting a thread about implants?  Where we could post personal stories, or thoughts, ideas and reference materials about it?

That's a good idea. I'll start one under Aliens/Channeling.  Goes good with the mind control thread that just started up.

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An example of a weak argument against colloidal silver:

Rosemary Jacob's FAQ wrote:

Do you know anything about the machines that people use to make their own silver supplements with?

I know that several people who have drunk home brews made with such machines have developed argyria. One is Stan Jones, the 2002 Libertarian Senate candidate from Montana. His case was reported by media across the US as well as by the BBC beginning in the first week of October 2002. I could give you links to some of the reports, but they probably will not be active when you read this. For that reason I'd suggest that you use a search engine to search the web using the term "stan jones argyria". If that fails, go to a big public library and ask the reference librarian to help you find the Jones story in the newspapers they subscribe to.

Presently, many manufacturers claim to use an electrical process to produce their products which, they claim, produces a suspension of very tiny silver particles which are evenly dispersed in distilled water. They often call their product "true" or "properly prepared" CS (colloidal silver) and claim that it cannot produce argyria. What is your opinion?

I know that many promoters are presently making that claim. I'm absolutely astounded that in spite of the new cases caused by electrically produced CS that they are still doing that.

What she leaves out, or perhaps doesn't know, is that Stan Jones made colloidal silver in the worst way possible, not at all the "proper way" that she uses Jones' story to ridicule.

Consider the following, showing what Jones did:

http://www.sharinghealth.com/beckprotocol/icsilver.html

I talked with Stan Jones after his picture with bluish skin made the major media circuit early in October 2002. In fact, he returned my call as he’s keen to let others know the mistakes he made in making colloidal silver over a period of about five years. While living in Seattle, he immersed silver wires in a paper cup with tap water. Then he used a 27-Volt generator to make the colloidal silver. In Seattle the tap water contained very few minerals and conductivity of the water was very low. To improve the conductivity, Jones was advised to add about four drops of a salt solution. He generated the silver solution for eight minutes in eight ounces of room temperature water and consumed it each day.

When Stan moved to Montana in 1999, he discovered the tap water there contained a lot of minerals so the drops of salt were no longer necessary to get a good current. He decided to make a stronger solution of the silver and added it to his drinking water. He let the generator operate for 1–1 ½ hours. This would produce a high PPM concentrate with silver compounds as a result of the minerals in the water. He then added this milky solution to two gallons of drinking water. This was his main source of drinking water throughout the day. Stan estimates he drank about 4 to 6 glasses of this silver solution each day.

Yup, that'll turn you bluegray. So if you're going to make colloidal silver, do it right - it's not hard to mess up, unless you do what Jones did. That's an example of how much it takes to make colloidal silver cosmetically dangerous, which is a LOT.

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My hypothesis re: argyria is that when the silver particles lose their charge, they "plate out" and drop out of suspension. When ingested, they aren't absorbed into the bloodstream and lodge in the body. It may be that the smallest vessels carrying blood would also carry the unabsorbed particles, which might end up under the skin. Just a guess. Incidentally, I only use distilled water, since mineral content negatively affects the product. The charged atoms can adhere to minerals, which will affect color and, I'd imagine, quality.

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Thank you all so much for the great information.  CS keeps coming up in my mind, but I was worried about turning blue, lol.  Now I have the confidence to try it.  I am very concerned about being cut off from herbs by TPTB, and bless you guys, you have the answer!

Recently, I found out about olive leaf extract which has some amazing benefits and does not harm beneficial bacteria:

http://www.anyvitamins.com/olive_leaf_extract.htm

How much cleaning with the SOS pad are you supposed to do?  Gently? Vigorously?