Topic: Tsunami disaster: what we have till now

19 Dec 2004: There are some lights & blasts in Indonesian skies. Official reports say it may be a meteor: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4108697.stm

19 Dec 2004: US Government warns citizens not to go South-East Asia, particularly Indonesia claiming terror threats.

23 Dec 2004: 8.1 quake in Tasmania sea. No reports or damage or injuries. 

26 Dec 2004: 9.0 quake and tsunami in South-East Asia. Death toll is 150.000 till now and still rising.

26 Dec 2004: Rumor says US Navy Support Facility Diego Garcia in Indian Ocean had the early tsunami warning and got the preparations but this warning had not passed to neghbouring countries.

1 Jan 2005: US Navy makes the biggest military buildup in Indian Ocean since Vietnam war (15.000 soldiers).

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Do you have a source on the 12-19 warning?

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I heard this in another forum, they didn't show any source. I made a research and found out this was made on 16 Dec, not 19 and by Australian government, it seems. Or maybe US government repeated this warning 3 days later:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/ … 7bfa64.htm

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Have you got any more news on the US Navy military buildup in the Indian Ocean?

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Was the Tsunami caused by a meteor?

"The question needs to be asked, Was the earth hit by a fairly large meteor and did it trigger the massive earthquake that has now devastated Southeast Asia? Was the impact enough to change the rotation of the earth and cause it to ring like a bell?"

http://www.clydelewis.com/dis/tao/tao.shtml

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sorry, i didn't show sources about these in my first mail, but the whole story is so interesting that I wanted to send it to the forum immediately. here's one source on US navy help. The source is Assoc. Press. 

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=379632

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http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/307042.shtml

Why has a senior commander involved in the invasion of Iraq been assigned to lead the US emergency relief program? "Lieutenant General Blackman was previously Chief of Staff...leading the Marines into Baghdad..."

US Foreknowledge and Selective Warnings. Similar to 9-11, the automatic warning system STANDS DOWN to allow a terrorist act occur, hypothetically using the HAARP technology, to justify upcoming militarization of the area with US troops in an area rich with oil. Whether HAARP or otherwise, the associated issue would be the standdown of the automatic earthquake warning system among its subscribing member nations. This is CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE--U.S. ONLY WARNS AUSTRALIA AND INDONESIA--LEFT OTHERS IN AN ENVIRONMENTAL REICHSTAG FIRE TO DIE FOR POLITIAL GAIN, and then invaded oil rich Aceh with over 2000 U.S. Marines and two aircraft carriers with armed helicopters.

No one tells the member countries about the "earthquake". However, the US DOES WARN its military base in the aera. And from this military base, part of the invasion of Aceh is proceeding with TWO AIRCRAFT CARRIERS and led by the U.S.'s pre-emptive invasion of Iraq leadership. "In a bitter irony, part of this operation is being coordinated out of America's Naval base in Diego Garcia. The US warns its naval base, though fails to warn Indian Ocean rim governments. "...the strike group, with its seven ships, 2,100 Marines and 1,400 sailors aboard, also has four Cobra helicopters..."

The oil rich Aceh area, which like Iraq, was suffering from a civil war making oil extraction difficult. THE AMERICAN NAZI ANSCHLUSS MOVES OUT FROM IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN--INTO ACEH: An ·schluss: A political union, especially the one unifying Nazi Germany and Austria in 1938.  http://dictionary.reference.com/search...

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Ayahuasca wrote:

Was the Tsunami caused by a meteor?

"The question needs to be asked, Was the earth hit by a fairly large meteor and did it trigger the massive earthquake that has now devastated Southeast Asia? Was the impact enough to change the rotation of the earth and cause it to ring like a bell?"

http://www.clydelewis.com/dis/tao/tao.shtml

or any other considerably large 'foreign' object in our inner solar system might have caused some of the tectonic pressure due to gravities interfering with each other. (or other various reasons)

what im saying is perhaps the object didnt have to actually HIT.

it seems to me this tsunami is being used as a cover to bring the Rotation Discrepency out into the public. who knows for sure tho...

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Indeed, it does appear that our warmongering neo-cons are using the disaster aid as an excuse to ramp up US military presence in Asia.

http://www.turkishpress.com/world/news. … nubg32.xml

US eyes greater military clout in Asia following tsunami tragedy
01-05-2005, 04h52

Backed by an array of US warships, planes and helicopters, more than 13,000 US military personnel have been dispatched to help Indonesia, Thailand and Sri Lanka, the countries most affected by the December 26 disaster.

Conducting its largest operation in Asia since the Vietnam War, the US military could remain in the region for up to six months, analysts said here Tuesday.

The mammoth humanitarian effort would ease concerns among Asian governments suspicious over American military ambitions and help gain their backing in the US-led "war on terror," they added.

"It's pretty impressive what the Americans are able to do with their military and if handled appropriately and carefully, it could lead to a better, more cooperative military relationship with the region," said Robert Sutter, visiting professor of Asian studies at Georgetown University.

"The message that hopefully is getting across is that Americans are not just out blasting terrorists. They are people with concerns and can help in a military way," he said.

Before the tsunami disaster it would have been unthinkable for a US aircraft carrier to dock in Indonesia's waters, or US Marines to rub shoulders with troops from the world's most populous Muslim nation.

Washington had banned key military cooperation with Indonesia because of human rights disputes, but the disaster has now brought the armed forces of both countries together in a major relief operation.

The USS Abraham Lincoln, an aircraft carrier with 6,000 sailors on board, is currently stationed about 28 kilometres (15 nautical miles) off Indonesia's Aceh province providing aid and sending ashore medical teams.

A fleet of Sea Hawk helicopters from the Abraham Lincoln has also been flying food, water and medical supplies into Aceh, where until the tsunami most foreigners were barred because of Indonesian fears about possible outside aid to rebels waging an independence struggle.

US Rear Admiral Doug Crowder told the Washington Post he expected the joint efforts to improve prospects for resuming full military ties with Indonesia.

The government of President George W. Bush has sought to restore military links, in large part to help fight terrorism, but the US Congress has repeatedly blocked the effort.

"This relief effort demonstrates there could be greater military cooperation with Indonesia," said Dana Dillon, an analyst with the conservative Heritage Foundation.

US marines arrived in Sri Lanka on Tuesday for a deployment that will eventually total 1,500 troops -- reportedly much to the chagrin of giant neighbour India, suspicious of US military intentions.

"Sri Lanka had been seeking US military aid for some time because of an ongoing civil war with the Tamil Tigers, but the American side had been reluctant," noted Dillon.

Part of Sri Lanka's tsunami devastated areas are controlled by the rebel Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), which Washington has designated a terrorist group.

US forces are also using Thailand's Vietnam war-era air base of Utapao as an airlift hub for the humanitarian mission in the region, strengthening potential US military logistical support throughout southeast Asia.

Thailand and the Philippines are key US military allies in the region. Singapore hosts a permanent site for US navy ships to dock for maintenance, repairs, supplies, and rest and recreation for the crew.

But the United States has been unable to expand its military influence in the region largely due to suspicions by Indonesia and Malaysia.

The two countries have opposed an American plan to tighten security in the vital Malacca Straits shipping lanes, which might have involved elite US troops stationed nearby.

Derek Mitchell of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington-based think tank, said the tsunami disaster underlined the importance of US military presence in the region.

He cited particularly the American military base in Okinawa, from where resources were tapped rapidly for the humanitarian effort.

"The United States has this unique capability to move rapidly with its military to take care of humanitarian and other security challenges in Asia," Mitchell said.

"In the absence of this capability which isn't nearly there in Asia, the United States plays this indispensable role."

If not for the tsunami.........   Gee, what a timely coincidence, huh.

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Most scientists, of course, are saying that there was/is no change in rotation. That even a 9.0 couldn't do that. But a 9.0 is hard to imagine. The big one in northern Cal. was, I think, 7.5. Lots of people are hoping Cal gets a 9.0 soon, no doubt.

Anyway, that one shook me like a leaf. I was in the hills at the time camping. It seemed to go on forever. But a 9.0. Uh...yeah.

But the military using this to put more troops in? Of course.

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Although I have some intuitive reservations about this guy. He has put together some interesting information regarding his take on the role of the US in these events.

http://www.joevialls.co.uk/


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Oh, whoa! This I've got to read.

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From the Vialls article:

If I remember correctly, shortly before Christmas I received a large number of emails from various people about some "German Guy", who apparently claimed that Wolfowitz had got hold of a critical weapon and was going to nuke Houston on either the 26 or 27 of December. I never did read the whole email, but it seems very likely that it was initially circulated by Wolfowitz or one of his ilk, as a classic disinformation distraction. Try something along the lines of "You suckers all watch Houston very carefully on 26 December, while I nuke Asia behind your backs… "

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