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I saw "The Forgotten" yesterday. Very much enjoyed the movie. It did remind me a lot of the film "Dark City". The idea that some alien "overlords" are changing reality around unsuspecting humans so that they can find out what makes us "tick" and thereby fix themselves/find a soul is interesting. Well worth seeing.

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Okay................................anybody here see National Treasure yet?   We did, last night.   Aye yay yay!   All I can say is, if you're going to see this movie, don't go in taking things all seriously, and expect an A-level script and movie.  It has it's flaws....many of them....so realize that going in and have a relaxed attitude about it.   Treat it like you would a Roland Emerich movie.  big_smile   I still found it enjoyable though.  It's got a lot of humor, which is its saving grace.   Normally I don't care much for Nicholas Cage, but he's pretty cool in this movie.  Thought his buddy Riley Poole was funny and enjoyable as well, as the 20-something geeky but cool, sarcastic but nice sidekick.  He was pretty realistic I thought, reminded me of a real guy.  I mentioned last night on another thread that I'd been hitting the rum and Coke thing at Barnes and Noble, which is where we were before we saw the movie, which means I had some alcohol going on while watching it, big_smile  which is why I was able to not take it seriously or get annoyed by the dumbed down script, the watering down of the Freemason issue and the plot which veers towards the absurd.   Those are the movie's flaws.  But it was still a fun movie.  I'd recommend it as a matinee if nothing else.  Some are saying wait for the DVD, but I don't think it's that bad.  If you're looking for fun escapism, I say go for it, see it as a matinee.   The movie doesn't "tackle" the Freemason issue though like I already mentioned, which I wanted to emphasize, because that will probably be something that Noble Realms posters will be looking for if they go to see this.   It waters it down and barely skims the surface.  Whatever treatment the subject does get is done as if the audience is a wide eyed child being told a fanciful bed time story.   So, sorry to say that it's not going to "expose" Freemasonry to the mainstream public.

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I saw the movie last night as well.... there may be some movie spoilers below, but nothing major.

lyra wrote:

The movie doesn't "tackle" the Freemason issue though like I already mentioned, which I wanted to emphasize, because that will probably be something that Noble Realms posters will be looking for if they go to see this.   It waters it down and barely skims the surface.  Whatever treatment the subject does get is done as if the audience is a wide eyed child being told a fanciful bed time story.   So, sorry to say that it's not going to "expose" Freemasonry to the mainstream public.

Watered it down? I think they flew right past the truth! For those watching the movie that aren't in the know about Freemasonry they would likely walk away from the movie thinking what a great bunch of guys the Mason's/Knights Templar are/were... after all they preserved all of that "rich history" (gold and documents) for humanity, right? roll Heavy sigh... not to mention it's just a movie.

The one remark in the movie, one that the audience reacted to in unison with snickers, that caused my mate and I to look at each other with eye-brows raised was: one of the characters commented something like 'How could they have built something like this?' referring to an elaborate, downspiraled, stairwayed entrance into the "treasure room", and Gates commented, 'The same way they built the Pyramids, (etc.).... the Aliens did it.' It was such a quick moment in the movie, but it didn't seem like it fit... like it was put there on purpose regardless of the fact that it doesn't really fit in with the flow of the rest of the script. Maybe it was just for the sake of a joke, but...

But I didn't go to the movie to be educated, I went for entertainment. Personally, I like to see Nic Cage in movies. It was, as entertainment, a fun movie, and I really liked the Riley character also. It's typical Disney, happy ending and all.

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Auendove wrote:

Watered it down? I think they flew right past the truth! For those watching the movie that aren't in the know about Freemasonry they would likely walk away from the movie thinking what a great bunch of guys the Mason's/Knights Templar are/were... after all they preserved all of that "rich history" (gold and documents) for humanity, right? roll Heavy sigh... not to mention it's just a movie.

Exactly.  Freemasons are portrayed like a good guy's club.  At the end of the movie when Benjamin Gates (nic cage)  is talking with Harvey Keitel's FBI agent, the camera zooms in on Keitel's hand.......and look what's there......a Masonic ring!   awwww!   I saw "awwww!" because in the movie it's a sappy cheesy moment, like Look!  Harvey Keitel is one of the good guys club too!!  awwwww!    You just gotta laugh, don't take it too seriously is what I recommend to NR people who might go see it.



Auendove wrote:

The one remark in the movie, one that the audience reacted to in unison with snickers, that caused my mate and I to look at each other with eye-brows raised was:

Yup.....same thing here.  Although the audience we saw it with was very reactive throughout the entire movie, (there was a guy sitting right in front of us who kept talking at the screen, yelling things out.....totally nuts!)  but yeah, the audience we were with reacted the same way.   This was actually a line said by Jon Voigt I believe, when they're marveling at how this huge structure with stairs and manual elevators could have been built, and Voigt says sarcastically "the same way they built the pyramids.....the aliens did it."  Or something close to that.   But yeah, we looked at each other too.  We did that a few times throughout the movie, usually during absurd moments where we were trying to stifle our laughter.   big_smilebig_smile!   

All in all I'd say this movie is an exact cross of Goonies, Ocean's 11, and Indiana Jones.   It's Goonies for adults!  smile

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lyra wrote:

Yup.....same thing here.  Although the audience we saw it with was very reactive throughout the entire movie, (there was a guy sitting right in front of us who kept talking at the screen, yelling things out.....totally nuts!)  but yeah, the audience we were with reacted the same way.   This was actually a line said by Jon Voigt I believe, when they're marveling at how this huge structure with stairs and manual elevators could have been built, and Voigt says sarcastically "the same way they built the pyramids.....the aliens did it."  Or something close to that.   But yeah, we looked at each other too.  We did that a few times throughout the movie, usually during absurd moments where we were trying to stifle our laughter. big_smile! big_smile!

You say Jon Voigt, I say Nic Cage, and DOH!, my man-critter says it was the Riley character who said it.... sheesh!, now I know it wasn't Riley! If somebody else out there goes to see the movie could you please take note of who said it 'cause now it's bugging me smile.

And lyra, as for that guy talking and yelling out during the movie, I tell people like that they either need to give me the money for a new ticket or shut the <bleep> up! Without censoring my words that is. Aaargghhh! I hate that kwap, it's totally rude and selfish! :x

Yeah, the movie also reminded me of Indiana Jones, but not as spectacular by far.

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Okay, time for some superficial fun.  woohoo!   big_smile

I don't know about you all, but I am utterly DISTURBED by the trailer for the new Tim Burton remake of "Willy Wonka."   In fact I was so creeped out I think I've watched it like, 5 times now.  hehe    Johnny Depp just looks and sounds so utterly creepy that I can't turn away.  He's got these fake white chiclet teeth, a really strange 'do, a white face, and LIPSTICK.   And the way he TALKS.....!   WHAT IS THIS, PEOPLE??!?!?!       Johnny Depp looks like this bizarre cross between Marilyn Manson back during his top hat wearing "Smells Like Children" days and that Peter Pan guy.

http://www.mansonusa.com/discography/?b … p;view=slc 
http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/ 

ugh!!!!   LONG LIVE GENE WILDER, IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY!!!


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lyra wrote:

Johnny Depp just looks and sounds so utterly creepy that I can't turn away.

You're right he does look creepy in that, but I can't wait for this movie and I absolutely love Johnny Depp. He's always been one of my favourite actors and I love the fact that he usually takes off-beat roles that pay much less when I'm sure he could easily just take the route of high-paying bullshit roles in soulless blockbusters. (Like Nick Cage for example)

Even Stuart's just started having visions of him: "Here is another development. For the first few years of watching the mirror-world I never saw famous people in the mirror-world but this year I saw quite a few, including Johnny Depp. He just looked across at me. I reckon he is very special, a counter-culture––90° person, with a lot of desire for freedom in his heart."
http://www.stuartwilde.com/Articles/SW_ … update.htm

Yeah, Johnny rocks!! big_smile

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Ayahuasca wrote:

and I love the fact that he usually takes off-beat roles that pay much less when I'm sure he could easily just take the route of high-paying bullshit roles in soulless blockbusters. (Like Nick Cage for example)

Dah!  That's exactly why he's now my pet peeve.....because all he ever plays is his stereotypical eccentric "quirky"  "whimsical"  characters.  Movie after movie after movie after movie it's the same variation on the "Johnny Depp Eccentric Quirky Whimsical Formula."    Blah!   Enough already!!!!   Ed Wood, Edward Scissorhand, Benny and Joon, Finding Neverland, Pirates of the Caribbean, Willy Wonka.....enough!!   big_smile   Actually I did a search on IMDB of his movies and I'm not being entirely fair....he's actually done more non-quirky whimsical movies then he has quirky ones.   But the quirky whimsy ones are the ones that stand out for me the most....


Ayahuasca wrote:

Even Stuart's just started having visions of him:

Yeah, I saw that.   Gwyneth Paltrow too, which I thought was interesting.   Gwyneth has always struck me as being one of the few actresses who seems to have an actual soul and seems real.   Any interview I've read of hers she's completely unlike any other bubble head Hollywood bimbo.   Never bitchy or full of herself, never vain and dingy.  She marches to her own drummer.    Go Gwyneth!  big_smile


Ayahuasca wrote:

Yeah, Johnny rocks!! big_smile

Dah!!!  NO!!!!!!   big_smile big_smile big_smile

Don't you just love superficial breaks?    hehe    Life can just get so serious and weird at times, it's good to take a Hollywood movie / gossip break.........  smile

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Two other movies I enjoyed that haven't been mentioned are Phenomenon and Powder.

Powder I think deals with human potential, although the main charcter is slightly odd looking being a hairless albino.

Phenomenon, yeah has John Travolta, but makes one wonder what we are capable of if we put our mind to it.

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Enjoyed national treasure,as well flight of the phoenix. Did anyone here enjoy AVP? My initial thought was that it would be a cash in on the 2 creatures, thrown together in one movie. The only reason I saw it was because of the pyramid under the Antarctic scenario. It wasn't a big budget movie, & I thought the puzzle pieces of the pyramid moving in seemingly unrelated maneuvers was a bit silly, but overall I liked this film. It was hated on a sci-fi chat room I go to. One has to pretend one has never seen an Alien-sigorney weaver- movie & let this film be itself.

I also saw Oceans 12. Too clever, too long.

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voggmo wrote:

Did anyone here enjoy AVP?

Absolutely Not! I have to say that I thought it was a great big steaming turd of a movie. The worst of 2004. I knew before I saw it that it was supposed to be bad, but nothing could have prepared me for just how awful that movie was. Hopefully Paul W.S Anderson will retire in shame and never make another movie again!!

Anyway here's my Top 10 Movies of 2004

1) Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2) Lost in Translation
3) Collateral
4) Before Sunset
5) Spiderman 2
6) Hero
7) Shaun of the Dead
8) The Motorcycle Diaries
9) I Heart Huckabees
10) The Corporation

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Ayahuasca wrote:

Anyway here's my Top 10 Movies of 2004

1) Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Yay!   Loved this movie!   smile    This is one worthy of buying.  Absolutely FANTASTIC.   For those who haven't seen it, it's a Charlie Kaufman script, and I really dig Charlie Kaufman scripts.  ("Being John Malkovich", "Adaptation".)   They're always "out there", but in an intelligent, well done way. 


Ayahuasca wrote:

2) Lost in Translation

Noooo!   One of the worst of the year!    Highly overrated!   Extremely dull.  About absolutely nothing.  I just sat there at the end of the movie, dumbfounded.  I couldn't believe how boring it was.    The only thing that redeamed the movie was that Bill Murray and  Scarlett Johanson did the most with what little they had.  You could tell that Bill Murray improvised and / or wrote his own one liners, because they were actually genuinely funny and clever.  There's no way Sophia could have written them.  Sophia Coppola, go to the corner, right now....!

Some other random movies I saw this year which haven't already been mentioned: y

Monster -  I know this movie was supposed to have starred Charlize Theron, but I don't recall seeing her anywhere in this movie......!   wink   A testament to her performance.  She looked so much like Aileen Wuornos that it's just shocking.  And her mannerisms and body language....seriously, was that supposed to be Charlize?!?!    I swear, I didn't see her ANYWHERE in this movie.    The movie is a bit difficult to watch, because it looks and feels too real.  Well done movie, but one I only want to see once.  Definitely not a movie you like, buy, and then watch over and over.  People who would do that with this movie scare me...

Open Water Anybody seen this?   Yikes.  I know a lot of people hated it, but that's because they were expecting some big mainstream Hollywood fanfare, and this movie is very small budget and low key.  I liked it though.  I'm not saying it was one of my favorites, but it was worth seeing on the big screen at the discount theater, and it's worth a rental if you know what to expect before you watch it.   To me, this movie made me look at my time spent in South Florida romping in the ocean in a WHOLE new light.  Now I'm like "I CAN'T BELIEVE I DID THAT AND DIDN'T EVEN THINK TWICE ABOUT IT!!!"   The ocean can be a scary place when you're left behind....     
   
Ocean's 12  HORRIBLE PIECE OF CRAP.   And I really liked the first one.   The sequel is just WRETCHED.   A mind numbing BORE, with a sprawling script and thin plot, filled in with a lot of superfluous banter and cameo gag appearances (oh, and Julia Roberts, my all time LEAST favorite actress EVER...)   but it doesn't make up for the lack of anything real happening.   Also, what made Ocean's 11 work was the fact that each member of the gang played a pivotal role in the heist, everybody was needed in full capacity.   That aspect is COMPLETELY missing in the sequel.  Most of the cast is squandered as they sit or stand around doing next to nothing.  I was so annoyed when I left the theater.  Waste of my money and a Friday night.

Haven't seen "The Village", but I want to.  It's coming out on DVD in the next few weeks.  I know most people hated this one too but that's because they didn't get what the twist was about.   I haven't seen it, but I know what it is and when I heard about it I thought M. Night Shayamalan is prett clever.  It's not just a "twist" so much as it's an actual message about what's currently happening right now in our country and society.   He's trying to tell us something, but it went over most people's heads.  Most people were like, "uhhh where are da monsters??  Dere weren't any monsters!!!  Dat makes me mad!!  I want monsters!!!!  Dis movie is stoooopid!!" 

Other movies we've seen have already been mentioned, so I won't retread over old ground..... wink

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lyra wrote:

Monster -  I know this movie was supposed to have starred Charlize Theron, but I don't recall seeing her anywhere in this movie......!

Great movie! I forgot all about that one actually, otherwise I'd have probably put that in my top 10.

lyra wrote:

Haven't seen "The Village", but I want to.  It's coming out on DVD in the next few weeks.  I know most people hated this one too but that's because they didn't get what the twist was about.

The Village is a pretty good movie and definitely worth your time in my opinion. I thought it was a good twist and you're right I think the message did go over most peoples heads. It's not quite a top 10 movie but it would have made my top 20 easily.

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Thought about starting a new thread, but this should suffice. Do we have any 50's - 60's sci-fi fans here? I love that stuff, The more naiive the better. Missile to the moon, flight to Mars, wonderful stuff. The fact that our knowledge of space travel was minimal before moon landing meant  the only limiting factor to stories from this era was the imagination. Pretty much anything went. Rock people on mars, people who looked just like us on Venus & spoke english too. They monitored our radio broadcasts I remember one movie explanation. The costumes & alien characters were also fab. One could argue that Plan 9 was the beginning of this genre. Perhaps true, but the 50's ushered in a ton of space oriented movies.

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So, I have officially seen "The Village", by M. Night Shayamalan. 

Good movie!

I really liked this movie.  I'd venture to say it's his best yet.  I really liked The Sixth Sense, and that was good too, for its own reasons, but this one is a notch above. 

The cinematography, the music.......just awesome.   Watching it I was like, "Hey!  I live in a place now that has woods like that!   Woohoo!!  Cool!!"   Versus the past few years where I kept wishing I could get back to a place with woods.   

**SPOILERS!**
Because I already knew going in what the ending was I knew what to expect, and for that reason I wasn't disappointed.   I think they may have marketed this movie incorrectly, presenting it as an actual horror movie with actual real critter monsters that are really going after the villagers, and that's why so many people were pissed after they saw it and why they trashed it.   It should have been presented maybe as a suspenseful mystery drama instead, playing up the part about how the village has secrets, and things aren't what they seem to be.   THAT would have been a better, more accurate way to market it.   Visually it's stunning and I think it has far less plot holes than "Signs."     (Although with "Signs" he was trying to sneak a hidden message in amongst a mainstream plot, to please both mainstream audiences and to give a message to those with "eyes to see and ears to hear."  For that reason "Signs" ended up not making a hell of a lot of sense and had a lot of holes.)   This time with "The Village" he's more straight forward.   Definitely rent this one!

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