Everything You've Been Told About the "Grays" is Bunk (Page 4 of 24)

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New UFO Revelations: The Gray's Agenda.
Airs on Saturday, December 18 at 1:00pm ET

According to ufologists, the Grays--beings from another world--abduct humans, implant devices, and conduct reproductive experiments. The most "familiar" alien, we see their images in every media. What do they want? Where are they from? Do alien life forms kidnap humans in order to replicate their dying race? Is our government in collusion with extraterrestrials in exchange for advanced technology? Hundreds of eyewitnesses swear they encountered aliens and dozens claim they have actual physical proof.

Is there not ever physical evidence from transdimensional beings?

If there is no physical evidence, then I would think that we need to go by our experiences and trust those.

Sorta kinda like we're given two bunk choices to choose from.  Neither one is the truth but that's what we're presented with.     It's either constant government denial or gloom and doom from the alien conspiracy fear mongers.   Stuart Wilde mentions this as well.   Just remember.........anytime we're only given 2 choices to choose from, it means there are other options we're not being presented with. 

I don't think it's necessarily a scam per se, although we all realize there's mucho red herring disinformation out there, as well as genuinely misguided people who mean well but are spouting false information.   (And just to make sure I don't come across as elevating myself up as smarter than them, trust me, I've been a misguided fool too.   I'm only now trying to attempt to be more rational and smart about this issue, but it definitely wasn't the case when I was younger.)    But the truth is shaping up to be that these things may not be from another planet at all, but rather, are transdimensional beings who have been with us for eons, under various names, ("fairies", "trolls", "angels", "Gods", etc.)  manipulating and using mankind at every turn.   Maybe TPTB want to steer us away from discovering this?  So they've invented the two polar opposite choices that we can "fight" over, much like the Republicans and Democrats...?     I don't know, just an idea.

Good question.   And one that I think we all need to get to the bottom of.   I can't even begin to come up with a good explanation as to "why" aliens are being so heavily promoted, by the guv'ment controlled media, no less, as you pointed out above.   I see that it's happening, I see there's an agenda of sorts, like you and like others....but I can't figure out why.  My best guess so far has been brainwashing and indoctrination.  But for what??   ??!

Again, I don't know either.  But I've thought the same thing myself.  David Icke does mention in "Tales From the Time Loop" that the Reps are an illusion as well, and exist in the illusory densities because we created them, allow it, need it, etc.    In all fairness, if you read through Icke's books, in chronological order, you get to watch his opinions evolve over time as he learns new information.   He's absolutely not one of those stagnant disinformation peddlers, never changing, forever spouting the same old tired programmed script, and THAT'S what I love about him.  It's what has convinced me that he seems to genuinely mean well and has good intentions.  He changes over time, and you can watch him evolve through the years when you read his books.  His first books don't even mention the Reps, because he hadn't heard of them.  Then he learned about them, researched the reptilian symbolism in our world, started talking to people and hearing personal accounts and it became his new obsession which he ran with for several books.   Then finally he took Ayahuasca and saw through the illusion and had a whole new perspective on it all, which he wrote about in his last book.  It's pretty cool.      As he learns new information he's not afraid to revise his views and add new layers to it.   

And as far as "them" trying to off him and take him out of the picture, well, he talks about how he's always under extreme attack before every live speaking engagement, and how it's all he can do to combat it and get up there on stage.   We can't prove this, but it sounds legit to me.   He doesn't mention guv'ment spooks chasing him around in black unmarked cars and black helis hovering over his house in England.  No, he mentions hyperdimensional attacks designed to take him out mentally and physically so he can't do his work or even function, which is actually more realistic when you think about it.....

Yup, Stuart did mention that, as did a few others, including the C's, back in the 90's.  They were the first source I came across that mentiond the staged alien invasion.   Have you read that kick ass comic book "Bob Johnson, Enemy of the State"  in the General Discussion section?  It's all about the "alien invasion" and how the TPTB use that to get us under control.   I've thought about it and said the same thing you did - it just seems so FAR FETCHED, so Sci-Fi, just so "out there" and crazy, even for Hollywood.   It's just too damn Hollywood that I could never imagine it happening.  But you never know, I guess. 

Well, I remember reading back in 2002 -- in a major mainstream news source like Yahoo or something! -- about how the government not only has holographic technology, but, it's so advanced now that they can project the image of entire military armies to use agains the enemy in wartime, to create the illusion that they have these huge military camps and bases set up with weapons, aircraft, etc.   You know, to bluff.   The holographic technology is mentioned in "Bob Johnson" as well, about how they'll use it to project images of UFOs and religious figures in the sky during the proposed "invasion scenario".  It's not far fetched to think about considering it's now mainstream knowledge that they have this technology and intend to use it for deceptive purposes.    So that's another idea....

Too many questions.....is a good thing!  What a juicy thread this is turning out to be!!!!    I love it!    I have yet to see a thread yet on any messageboard I've been involved in which tackles the ET issue so in depth!   So this is cool.

Now, about the abductions, genetic tampering and cattle mutilations, and all the "physical" aspects of the phenomenon that seems to point towards physical beings.......I think these Transdimensionals are in physical form a lot of the time.  They flip back and forth between both physical and non-physical states.......3rd and 4th density you could say.   The C's said this too.   This is reflected in their craft and the way they seem to move about through solid objects and appear and disappear.   I think they, whatever they are, need to feed on something when they're in the 3rd density physical, they need to sustain their physical form while here.  It's been said that they feed on these cored out parts and blood of cattle that they mutilate in order to do this.   The genetic tampering, the sperm and egg samples, the scoop marks and skin scrapings, this all points to genetic tampering.......or does it?   Is there something we're mising, I wonder?    Similar phenomenon to this have been reported throughout human history.   "And the Gods came down from the sky and took the women of the Earth...." or whatever you would read in the bible pertaining to "Gods" mating with human women.  So is this a new phenomenon, or has it always been happening?   Has it always been happening, but now it's increased?    If it's increased, then why?  Is it to create human hybrids that can house their group soul, as it's been claimed, or is it for another reason?   

I'm thinking the same thing....the ultimate effective move.  But man, how ludicrous does it sound when you think about it??  !!    I've concluded that the "alien invasion" scenario as tool for NWO implementation would have to be their last ditch resort, when ALL else fails.   When they've got no more cards up their sleeves, or they are running majorly behind schedule and need to speed things up a notch or two, then they can pull this one out.   I would think though that they would probably try avoid using this one if possible, because once they do it, there's no going back, they can't change their minds and say "Ah, let's scrap this idea, it's not really doing it for me anymore..."   Nope!   You can only move forward once it's in effect.

I agree.   1.  He hasn't incorporated what he learned from Ayahuasca into his website.  All we see is the same old gloom and doom headlines page with the same old illusory nonsense.   I'm disappointed in that,   2.  Some of his books do read the same and the spiritual material in "Tales From the Timeloop" was only tacked on at the end....AFTER he inundates the reader with images of blown up Iraqi children.  I skipped that chapter.  Didn't see the point in reading about stuff I can do nothing about.   3.  I'm sure he feels he's doing good by making the negative stuff known -- over and over again --  but as Montalk says, once your alarm clock goes off in the morning you don't walk around carrying it up to your ear for the rest of the day, do you??  No, once you're up you're up.   David Icke's alarm clock went off years ago, so I'd like to see him focus more on how to get oneself out of the illusion now.   Take it to the next level.   But he doesn't, which is why I'm into Stuart Wilde, because Stuart picks up where David Icke left off.    So you're right, maybe Icke does serve somebody's purpose......

WRONG.     Freewill.       Although that might not be the most accurate word to use.   Remember this:   They, whatever they are, can't just take someone out.   It's not as easy as you would think.   You're missing the spiritual angle to all of this.   

Ever hear those stories of somebody who had a gun pointed at them by someone and the trigger was pulled.....and nothing happened?  The gun jammed?  Now why is that, I wonder?   It's because it wasn't "allowed" to happen.

You can't just off people.   I wrote an entire article about this actually.   If it would violate certain people's freewill, then it's not allowed to happen.   Someone like David Icke is tied to millions of people's awakenings.    Me included, among a million others.   My belief?   I don't think he's "allowed' to be killed.    He's been WAY too important.    Everybody has their own individual karma, and we can never know why some people choose the deaths they do.   But the fact remains, the "THEM" can't just kill people like that.   I figured this out on my own and have seen it to be true with my own eyes.   They're not as powerful as you think!    If you think some Rep / Transdimensional being / Government spook working in conjunction with 4D can just go around killing anybody they want whenever they want.....think again.  There are forces higher than them, called 4D STO, 5D and 6D who can smack them right back down.   I've seen it, I know it to be true.   So, you can't just kill people like that.  That's a fact.   

Nope, haven't read it. Generally speaking, I'm not a big comic book reader. But, that one does sound very interesting.

Well, holograms might be useful to a degree, but of course they aren't solid objects and can't inflict any damage. The only thing that these projected UFOs could do is hover menacingly in the skies. I suppose that could be enough, but I'm still convinced they have the real thing already.

Yeah, but one still has to wonder why they'd come to Earth of all places. I always thought that the human race would probably be very, very boring indeed to an advanced non-human culture, who would no doubt see us as being quite unimportant.

I'm actually wondering whether this whole idea of blood drinking aliens has any validity or not. I don't think that an advanced culture with mastery over the ether force, who can flip between dimensions as easily as we change lanes on a highway, would really need to do such things. I think this is more likely part of the fear-mongering aspect.

I have sometimes wondered if these "Gods that came down from the sky" didn't, in fact, have more Earthly origins. Humanity is actually far, far older than is generally accepted, and its true origins are still shrouded in mystery.

I don't buy that, actually. Again, I fail to see any reason why advanced non-humans would find the human physical form so attractive and desirable.

If I told you on September 10th, 2001 that tomorrow on the morning news you'll witness passenger jets flying into the World Trade Center you'd probably have shrugged that off as totally ludicrous too. I know I would have.

Not so, actually. You wouldn't just pull something like this out of the hat at the last possible moment just because you were desperate. You'd really have to be sure it was going to work, and it would have to have been perfectly planned many years in advance. If not done correctly, the illusion would be seen through and that would be that: the end of hundreds of years of hard work. If done correctly though, people will demand a world government and world army to meet the perceived threat, and will gladly stand in line for hours to get their microchip implants installed. Anything to make them feel safer. TPTB's greatest weapon against any sovereign nation has always been the fear of external powers. Once the world government is in place, and all nations are brought under one global authority, where then will lie the external threat to create the fear and keep people in line?

True, although that may be because he doesn't have much direct involvement with the website. He's too busy with other things.

Yeah, it's almost as if it is meant to generate a very negative response. Yes, David, the world is not a nice place. It is a system of predation, nothing more. We get the picture, thank you. In fact, we got it several books ago. You can't keep writing for people like you're still trying to introduce them to the whole conspiracy angle. Your audience is already listening, and has been for quite some time now. Let's move along, please

It is the most logical conclusion, even if I admit to not being particularly happy about it.

WRONG. Freewill is an overblown fantasy. 

No, I'm not, I assure you. But perhaps you think that the "spiritual angle" has more involvement in Earthly affairs than it really does. Your spiritual aspect exists outside of time, and is deathless. It has nothing to fear about anything that happens in third density existence.

Yeah, I've heard those stories. Definitely sounds like maybe some level of intervention by something, or perhaps simply a very happy accident (accidents do happen, ya know?) The only problem here is that a gun can only jam so many times. No luck with the first gun? Try another. Still no luck? Pick up a knife and do the job. No knife around? Hell, anything! A stick of wood, a brick, a pencil, your bare hands! My point being, if they wanted him gone, he'd be gone. They do it all the time, to people that threaten their agenda. Who was the last one to go? Dr. David Kelly? I dunno, I lose track.

Not true, really. You are not dependant upon the existence of any other human being for your own awakening. It will happen through the natural course of events anyway.

Yeah, but I think he may have unwittingly been important to both sides of this equation. Although he's out there making people aware of this stuff (and admittedly, I don't buy all of what he writes) he still focuses largely on the negative aspects. And despite his growing crowd of admirers, he's still considered a nut and a crank by the masses of humanity, especially in his own country!

Hmmn, just for the experience. I'm sure your Higher Self has all kinds of death experiences in its incarnational "database".

Awwww, sure they can. Think about the millions that died during the World Wars. Think about all those poor buggers who've died recently in Iraq and Afghanistan. All cannon fodder and collateral damage for the sake of the New World Order.

Perhaps, but I would have to question the true motives of any "higher" being that intervened in such a way.

I'm not a "follower" of the C's either.  I have read the transcripts though.  Yes, it does seem ambitious.  However, I think that there is plenty of infrastructure already set up to accomodate a debit/credit system.  If you are running a store or a business, then all you need is a Visa type terminal to hook into the system.  We'll see.