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1.  Some of it genuinely IS disinformation, so not only is it allowed, it's actually propagated.    Apparantly the CIA and other factions of the guv'ment have their peeps inserted all over the place spreading disinformation and confusing people.

2.  Some conspiracy researchers HAVE actually died.  William Cooper, Jim Keith, Phil Schneider, Danny Castellero (sp??)  just to name a few offhand.  Branton was hit by a truck, didn't die, but now has brain damage.   Fritz Springmeier was just framed and set up on trumped up drug charges and locked up.   John Ford was set up with drugs as well and put away in a mental institution.  There are female Illuminati mind controlled slaves who have made the mistake of going public with their stories and are now paying the price with repeated death and car "accident" attempts.   

And that's not even mentioning alternative science researchers who have been harrassed, attacked or killed.

3.  The fact that remains which is.....you just can't shut 'em all down.      There are too many to go after probably.    I think also it depends on the nature of the material being presented and the level of threat it presents.   For example, I don't necessarily think Alex Jones poses a serious threat.................believe it or not.   I love Alex's show and really dig his style, the man is SMART, sharp as a tack.  And funny as hell!   He does awesome impersonations of people.   But what is he railing against?.........the Political infrastructure.  The impending Police State.  9/11.    Stuff that "They" know doesn't pose any real threat because let's face it......there ain't a damn thing any of us regular people can do about what's going on.  Alex can rant all he wants, but what can we do?   Pretty much nothing.  So, consequently, Alex is "allowed' to continue, unabated.   I mean, Bush was just re-elected.  The Illuminati is still performing Satanic rituals, sacrificing babies, trafficking humans, manipulating money, starting wars, programming mind controlled servent slaves.  Etc. etc.  And the Patriot Act II was already passed and now the National ID card is on its way.   And there ain't a damned thing that David Icke, Alex Jones, or the rest of them can do about it.    These authors / speakers won't / can't stop the snowball rolling down a mountain gaining speed, mass and momentum.  So, they are left alone.   "They" just shrug and wave them through.   

So who ARE the people getting offed and attacked then?

What I've noticed is that it seems to center on those involved in exposing subjects such as Mind control.  Military abductions (MILABS).  The truth about the alien / UFO presense......and not the fluffy happy New Age / Steven Spielberg drivel we've all been fed.  But the REAL stuff.    People into alternative science.......Free Energy, that's a BIG one.....anti-gravitiy.   Material like that.

Jim Keith --  Mind control expert.   Killed.   William Cooper -  insider information regarding the NWO and aliens.  Killed.    Branton....wrote about aliens and all KINDS of juicy conspiracy things.  Unsuccesful attempt at being killed.   John Ford -- President of the Long Island UFO Network, researching the alien and UFO agenda.   Killed.   Fritz Springmeier -  Published a virtual How-To manual on how the Government is programming its mind controlled sex slaves and regular citizens to be used as sleeper agents.   Set up and locked away.   

You see the pattern....

I've thought about this subject a lot, and I sometimes wonder whether we’re all being led into a trap. As in a web. Or a net.

Think about the Internet for a minute. It’s totally non-regulated, and ideas are allowed to flow freely. Many of these ideas attempt to expose and subvert the New World Order agenda. And yet the Illuminati allows these sites to continue.

It seems to me it would be fairly easy for the Powers that Be to zap sites like whatreallyhappened.com, fromthewilderness.com, rense.com, and any of the others that expose the lies of the Illuminati.

If the New World Orderlies really wanted to, they could  simply keep track of the most popular conspiracy authors, and kill their websites as fast as they put them up. It really wouldn’t be that difficult.

But they don’t, which makes me wonder: Are we all being given enough rope to hang ourselves?

When they decide to finally start filling up those FEMA concentration camps, are people who visit and post to sites like these going to get a knock on the door in the middle of the night some time soon? You know, the government can now call any activity terrorist activity -- including posting to "subversive" sites like this.

Think about it: the Internet traces its roots to the Department of Defense. That’s suspicious enough for starters. The origins of the Internet have NWO fingerprints everywhere: Stanford University, Rand Corp. DARPA and Honeywell, to name a few.

I imagine a lot of these conspiracy sites are being used by the New World Orderlies to spread disinformation -- a sort of cyber COINTELPRO, if you will.

And, perhaps, they’re also being used to keep track of who is saying what, for more sinister purposes.

I can’t escape the feeling that the InterNET; the World Wide WEB is a trap...a web...a net.

Now why would they name it a web or a net? "World Wide Web," when viewed in this context, seems rather sinister to me. Of course, I could be drinking too much coffee...

BTW, Lyra, I think you are incredibly intelligent, having read your posts. As are many others here. It's heartening to see not EVERYONE in the world is a moron.

I think the difference between discussing conspiracy and living, and discussing conspiracy and getting killed off, is being able to PROVE IT. I'm willing to bet that all the people who have been in "accidents" had evidence to back up their claims. To all the others without evidence, the PTB can just point a finger at them and call them raving loonies or whatever, because they don't have direct proof of a conspiracy. Everything they know is indirect, anecdotal, or circumstancial.

The line that you have to cross before you're labeled "too close," IMO, is obtaining direct proof that can be used to uncover any conspiracy. That seems like the important factor.

I agree with everything on this thread so far and have little but this to add:

On another level, my impression is that since the topmost secret societies include both STS and STO halves, their common ground is in polarizing 3D individuals ever more toward either orientation. If oppressive control were the only objective of those who run this planet, we could have been kept in the Dark Ages for an indefinite period of time. And yet the trend has been mankind going beyond barbary to embrace religion, rising out of religion to embrace reason, and eventually transcending reason to embrace divine knowledge. Not in a clear-cut manner, but the general pattern is there.

So despite the suppression of knowledge, there is also a steady injection of knowledge. The control comes in what knowledge is injected and at what rate. Too much too soon and the system destabilizes, threatening both the school and prison aspects of 3D.

The divine influence seems to keep things in balance by offering protection and opportunity to key individuals where needed. If these individuals walk the path of balance, they are protected from being snuffed out by the less tolerant STS controllers. But if these individuals overstep their bounds, they they lose protection for that duration and get within maw's reach of the MCS.

Giving out knowledge is not THAT dangerous to the system since people still have the choice to ignore or ridicule it. That is, unless the knowledge is of an incriminating nature that allows the Laws of Man to prosecute the offenders. Those who possess and distribute this knowledge are first to be knocked off.

In an esoteric sense, blatant proof is that which offers people no choice to believe otherwise and thus violates their freewill if pushed too forcefully upon them, robbing them of the learning experience and upsetting balance. I think that explains partly why dangerous proof is so dangerous as Seeker mentioned - it potentially upsets both the STS and STO flow of things.

And nowadays there is no greater proof than through technological and scientific demonstration. That is using the Laws of Nature to prove something. Giving out no-no technology before its time is VERY dangerous for that reason. If one person succeeds in releasing free energy technology before its time, the control system would crash and the ceiling would fall down upon the prisoners. Alternative science researchers, at least the successful ones, are always in the crosshairs.

I know many sources of info are allowed because they aren't pure enough to eliminate the reader's requirement for discernment. For example, Tom Bearden (free energy researcher) has some decent stuff in my opinion that have already gotten others like Stefan Marinov (another free energy researcher) killed, but the difference is that Bearden's material also contains lots of shady and disinformative material while Marinov was rabid about foisting his discoveries upon the world.

And yet I think secret societies are funding the dissemination of alternative information, or at least allowing its dissemination at a controlled rate. Example: media movies as part of "Project Awaken", the saturation of Grey icons in pop culture, TV specials on aliens and UFOs, and various institutes like NIDS or the Noetic Institute.

Of course, the STS controllers have their hands in all this and do pump out disinformation, but disinformation is of a nature where people can pick out the truth if they so choose -- some will choose, some will not, and either way this aids in the polarization of the 3D population and is thus allowed by both sides of the Powers that Be.

Just some thoughts on this interesting thread.

Sure, four sources come to mind:

The Secret Teachings of All Ages - Manley Hall
Cass Transcripts - session 941112
Gods of Eden - William Bramley
Return of the Warriors - Theun Mares

Later today I'll take some time to OCR and insert relevant excerpts from these books. [edited later: these excerpts were more scattered and numerous than I thought, and I don't have time to scan it all, sorry. That Cass session sums it up though, and you know where to read it. The other books are worth reading anyway, so hope you get a chance to take a look. Manley Hall's book shows the bright side of secret societies, Bramley's book the dark side. Return of the Warriors goes into some supposed history of how the illuminates can split into noble and corrupt branches.]

To elaborate, I think this all follows from the nature of freewill and enlightenment. Those who have supreme knowledge can choose how to use it, so some will use it for "dark" and some for "light" - what both have in common is the power they possess by virtue of having that knowledge. That they are secret societies comes from being smart enough to avoid being crucified or exposed. Both "sides" have an interest in the rest of 3D humanity, whether for control or spiritual liberation. Either way, knowledge being the neutral medium catalyzing evolution toward STS or STO depending on personal choice, the dissemination of knowledge in this world seems fine as long as it does not overturn the control system. And it so happens that the means used by STS to expand their control unexpectedly end up serving a divine purpose.

Say the internet was originally built to monitor us -- yes, it certainly does that, but at the same time it has allowed many liberating things to happen as well, some I bet were not predicted. Now that the genie has been let out of the bottle, information suppression has been given up in favor of disinformation dissemination -- which for the discerning can be quite revealing and enlightening.

Anyway, that's the gist of it, the main point being that the illuminated ones running this prison/school cannot all be written off as enemies of mankind, but rather that they are working independently for the evolution of humanity whether they intend it or not, the catch being that STS seek to advance mankind along the STS path. As a whole, earth is a school since individuals do have the choice regarding which direction to polarize.

Nevertheless, it follows from all this that those who attempt to severely upset the balance of this system are most in danger of getting kicked out for violating the terms of service. Blatant proof and technological demonstrations, if clever enough and inserted at critical junctures way ahead of their time are examples. While subverting MCS control this would also subvert  the elected destiny of our collective consciousness, which I guess would piss everyone off and garner very little support for that subverter except from spiritual anarchists. But if collective/divine destiny requires such an individual, then their influence will be profound; history is filled with people thrusted into destined remembrance by doing the right thing at the right time.

Combine this with the other answers suggested so far on this thread, and I think we've got a rounded answer to chinesejycc's question.

Thanks, this came from pondering the same question in regards to myself and others I know personally. Fact is that many people who should be dead are not - even those who in the public eye are invisible. I've been paranoid in the past to wonder whether something I wrote about should really be posted on my site. But I did anyway and nothing bad came of it. So I concluded that fear is often a worse enemy than that which is feared. As long as one walks the straight and narrow path, sheltered beneath the wings of destiny, more things can be accomplished than we are programmed to believe is safe.

To maintain balance, those who stray from equilibrium automatically encounter restoration forces bringing them back in line. This seems to work for both sides -- those who seek to do "good" in an unbalanced manner receive a big fat hammer on the head from the control system. Likewise, those of the control system too eager to eliminate a particular individual before his time will be blocked by a deus ex machina plucking that individual out of harm's way.

Dean Cook, the inventor of a reactionless mechanical device violating one of Newton's Laws, has gotten much harassment and numerous murder attempts but something always protects him - he recounted an incident where a local crazy guy on his way to kill Dean inexplicably dropped dead of a heart attack. I can't confirm this myself, but it is similar to numerous other stories I've heard from people who seem to be caught in an invisible tug-of-war.

Montalk wrote:
"So I concluded that fear is often a worse enemy than that which is feared. As long as one walks the straight and narrow path, sheltered beneath the wings of destiny, more things can be accomplished than we are programmed to believe is safe. "

I fully support what you have written, particulary the quote above.

I would like to tell you of an experience I had in 1999 that is relevant to Tom's quote:

I have been in circumstances where I had a visit from the CIA due to the research I was doing at the time.  One them was sitting in the car taping our conversation, and the other came into my home, sat down and asked questions about who I knew and what I knew.  I felt no threat and I intimated this to him at the time. I said I go to these meetings and have friends globally who are like minded, who care about what is going on in the world, and I also said that I am doing this for my children and the other children around the globe, so they have a future. Towards the end of the interview, I asked them, "why do you do what you do?"  and he responded, "to protect the citizens from any form of t....rist activities" and,
"I have children and it's my way of protecting them".

The up shot to this was I finished up giving him a couple of audio tapes and a video to watch, which he posted back 2 weeks later.  He gave me his phone number before he left...I phoned this number a few days after the interview, he answered, we were in mid conversation and the line was cut off.

So what I am trying to get across here is, if you have fear in what you are doing, you will bring that energy in, if you have true/love intent the doors will open for you.