[ Closed ] A few questions about Professional Wrestling (Page 2 of 11)

I'm taking Moralman at his word here because I've seen smart people profess their love of pro wrestling and write complex treatises on the subject. Apparently, pro wrestling means a lot to some people. They read a lot into it. The whole thing is like a modern day live-action Greek hero myth to them, not just a bunch of steroid monkeys in spandex hitting each other. But then again, those seemingly intelligent WCW-lovers could just be blathering postmodernists. In any event, you couldn't pay me to sit down and watch pro wrestling.

Dear Friends
kind regards
I would like to respond to the following people.
Neomatrix.........
Although I found your posts in reference to my subject thread amusing please believe that I am serious and in a way I don't consider this thread as stupid.
I don't post crazy things-I value this forum and the knowledge that I receive.
Lyra.........
What is wrong or absurd in asking a question about if Professional wrestling will be around after 2012?
Either it wil be or it won't.
It is important to me as I am a huge wrestling fan and my love of professional wrestling has been with me for a long time and I believe that professional wrestling should live on.
I am not dreaming or sleepwalking-I am simply a wrestling fan asking questions that are genuine in my mind.
You say that no one cares if professional wrestling vanishes after 2012-I think billions of people on this planet would actually care about that.
Surely we need entertainment after the changes?
I assumed that the forces of good would at least create a civilisation where the best of everything is maintained after the changes.
Boxing and wrestling are not negative-they can be positive.
Muhammad Ali made some long lasting reforms and Hulk Hogan does alot of charity work.
An alternative forum is an alternative forum-the discussions that we have on this forum might not be accepted on other forums or even in the outside World.
I seriously believed that an alternative viewpoint like wrestling surviving into 2012 would be welcomed on this forum.
You say that it is absurd to include Jesus and Wrestling in the same sentence yet wrestling is mentioned in the bible.
Jacob wrestled and was awarded Israel.............so I assume that God values wrestling.
Perhaps Hulk Hogan is the reincarnation of Jacob.
Morningsun76.........
Why can't wrestling be accepted in the higher realms?
Why can't wrestling be apart of universal oneness and what is your definition of universal oneness.
Even Montalk himself states that a Human soul and a Draconian soul are not the same.
So universal oneness should exclude Draconian souls and put them in Orion?
Or should we consider Draconian souls as the same as us and condemn Wrestling to be different?
I think that Hulk Hogan and wrestling should be included in universal oneness whilst the Illuminati/Draconian souls shouldn't be included.
I'd like to know your definition of universal oneness.
Furthermore what would Hulk Hogan do for eternity and in the realms of Universal oneness if he couldn't wrestle?]
Wrestling made him rich and famous plus he influenced lots of peoples lives-what is wrong with that?????????
Montalk.............
If the higher powers deem wrestling and all other showbusiness programs as not good then what will the changes usher in?
What will the Godly civilisation be like?
No one has ever fully given great detail on what the future civilisation of light would be like.........perhaps you could write an article on it?
yours thankfully
John

As Lyra said, that's not the main issue here. I'm sure all of us in this forum have things we like that other people would regard as a bit silly or pointless. One of my main interests in life is movies. I love all kinds of movies, from the outrageously silly movies like "American Pie" to more serious movies like "The Shawshank Redemption" and a thousand others in between.

But I'm not coming on here making dumb posts like "Hey d'ya think Jesus will be directing American Pie 4 when he returns in 2012? Maybe they would call it American Messiah!"

Seriously dude, some of the comments you have made in this thread are dumb beyond words and it's why I find it very hard to take anything you say seriously. But if you really have written these posts with a straight face, then I have to worry about you somewhat!

And as Neomatrix made a good point of saying. It's posts like these that lower the tone of this forum, and make everyone else look crazy. This in turn might then put off new potential members from joining. What attracted me to this forum was the fact that people here were having intelligent discussions about a subject that often attracts crackpots who have no idea what the word "discernment" means.

So I will kindly ask you to think twice about making these kinds of posts in future, because I don't think you're doing either you, nor anybody else here any favours.

Andy

Dear Friends
kind regards
I would like to respond to the following people.
Ermolai.........
The WWE is attracting billions of fans on an international scale and in fact thats how Vince McMahon is making lots of revenue-at certain times wrestling is more popular internationally than nationally.
Wrestling is Japans favourite national sport-they see wrestling in the same way that English people see football.
Its quite interesting that the Japanese love wrestling and at the same time are technologically advanced.
The Japanese have the highest IQ on the planet.
Ayahuasca.........
You genuinely misinterpret things that I say.
Let me ask you a question.
1. After the changes would you still like the acting profession, movies and Hollywood to exist?
Please give me your answer to this question then I can comment further however I would like to respond to something else that you stated.
I just wanted to know if professional wrestling would survive during the changes.
Surely there are things that you like that you'd like to see be apart of the new millenium?
I don't really consider my question on this thread as dumb or a tool that is stopping people from registering on this forum.
I think that wanting to know what the new civilisation is like is an interesting question-will it differ to the World that we have today?
If you read between the lines of my thread you can ponder some logic.
My way of gaining knowledge is by asking questions on this forum and your way of gaining knowledge is by drinking Ayahuasca in Brazil.
Yet I don't criticise you for your way of gaining knowledge and I would appreciate the same courtesy.
I can understand why you criticise me at times but I think people need to understand my questions at time with more discernment.
Bumblebee.........
Thank you for your support.
Quite frankly I cannot understand how a subject such as this receives such a hostile reception on an alternative view forum.
I am a serious person asking serious questions because if we are approaching a new civilisation after 2012 I have an interest in knowing what it will be like and would also like to know if the things that resonate with me will be apart of that new civilisation.
Wrestling is included in the Bible and I think that God wouldn't consider wrestling as bad.........Hulk Hogan was a good role model who preached a message that led children down the right path.
I think that Jacob was wrestling against a force of God to test him and yet through that Wrestling match.............Israel was formed.
Thats my point-Israel was formed due to a wrestling match.
I don't think that Jacob was wrestling with his higher self though-I think that your higher self either works within you or it doesn't.
Hopefully in 2012 we will connect with our higher self but even if we do connect with our higher self.............I don't think any of us will be condemning wrestling.
I am glad that at least one person thinks that wrestling will continue.
Any civilisation even a Christian civilisation would be dull without professional wrestling and boxing.
yours thankfully
John

For as long as there are stories to be told, I have no doubt there will be people who want to act those stories out. So I think in some form or another acting and drama will always exist. In my opinion all of life is essentially a drama, a giant soap opera on a universal scale, and we're the actors. This is why you shouldn't get too caught up in seeing people as good or evil, righteous or damned. How can anything ever be separate from God?

But to answer the actual question. Presuming there really is a shift in 2012, I really don't know whether I want there to be movies after 2012 or not. Unless someone can describe to me what life after the shift will be like, then I can't say what I would like to survive the shift. Perhaps life after 2012 will be so different that I won't be interested in the forms of entertainment I enjoy today. Maybe there will be newer and more evolved forms of entertainment that will make todays movies & entertainment seem primitive by comparrison.

Anyway, I wouldn't pin all your hopes on 2012, because you might feel a bit silly and disappointed if you wake up on Jan 1st 2013 and nothing's happened. What will you do then? What will be the next date you look towards for your saviour's return? The world's definitely changing, and I have no doubt we'll see even bigger changes over the coming decade, but I'm not convinced we're going to wake up one morning and find ourselves living in some 4th density paradise.

Andy

I think I already adequately explained why.  For most of us, there are more pressing concerns in life than whether or not wrestling will still be around in a few years.   

Right.  But it sounds like "dream logic" to me. 

If you think "billions' of people on this planet care about the fate of wrestling, then you my friend, are out of touch with reality.  There are about 6 billion people on this planet.  And about half of them live in poverty.  As far as the other half is concerned, I highly doubt that the number of wrestling fans comprises half the population of the world.    Again, out of touch with reality there buddy.

Uh huh.   

Again, you don't see how you sound.   Dream logic.   The waking sleep.

Really?   Where?   Modern WWF style wrestling, the kind you're talking about here, the kind that's seen on TV and involves staged, scripted fights, histrionic dramatics, fake "good guys", fake "bad guys", costumes, testosterone posturing and mega $$$ generation for corporate big wigs is mentioned in the bible?   Really?   What Chapter / Verse?   This I gotta see. 

Interesting logic.   

Uh huh.

Well lets look at what else Montalk states. Have a read of his key concepts page:
http://montalk.net/about/91/key-concepts

God
- source of all creation
- projects two aspects of itself: pure individuated consciousness, and matter/energy
infuses matter/energy with fragments of its own consciousness
- infinite intelligence exploring its infinite potential through an infinite variety of finite fragments
- allows individuated fragments to expand via learning until they unite with the whole
- does not diminish in size when a fragment is created…the process is holographic replication
- also called Creator, Source, the All

In otherwords God is the source of everything including what humans think of as evil.

There is no seperateness. It's an illusion. How can anyone or anything be seperate from the source of everything?

If you believe that god is good then why did he create a universe which allows evil to exist? You obviously have this idea that after the shift/2012 all the evil in the world will disappear. But why didn't God just create this wonderful paradise from the start?

Let me give you a wrestling analogy that you may understand better...

Try and imagine that God is a WWF Wrestling Arena. And in that Arena you have thousands of people in audience that represent all the individual souls in the universe (but they're still apart of God/The Arena). Then you have lots of big wrestlers all slugging it out, and lets say they represent the more higher powers like Jesus, and the devil/illuminati. So some of those wrestlers are supposed to be good guys like Hulk Hogan, and some of those wrestlers are supposed to be bad guys like The Undertaker.

In the audience you have lots of people all cheering the good guys, and lots of people all cheering the bad guys. And it's fun, and it looks real. But we all know it's staged. The bad guys aren't really bad guys, it's just an act they're putting on to make the whole thing more fun and interesting. And nobody is really getting hurt, even though it looks like they are.

If all the wrestlers loved each other there wouldn't be much of an event. They'd probably just get in the ring and hug each other and sing songs about love. Not much of a wrestling match there my friend, I'm sure you'll agree.

So think of the Illuminati and reptillians as those nasty looking 'bad' wrestlers that we all like to boo and hiss. While the good people like Jesus are more like Hulk Hogan that most of us cheer and get behind. Does that make sense to you now?

God's a wrestling arena. ok?