Topic: Monoatomic gold / ormus / philosopher's stone

Lecture by David Hudson on ORMUS good first read, takes a while to get into the meat though.  Follow the links at the bottom for Q&A and the workshop.

another good intro

ORMUS homepage

ORMUS user evaluation people who have ingested ormus

The Philosopher's Stone pdf book which includes the Golden Treatise of Hermes

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I've done some research into monatomic gold and it's one hairy subject! Has the good, the bad, and the ugly -- everything from the worst of disinformation to the best of alchemical glimmerings. So just a short note warning people neither to dismiss nor accept this subject in its entirety. Thanks for the links, will take another look.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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montalk wrote:

I've done some research into monatomic gold and it's one hairy subject! Has the good, the bad, and the ugly -- everything from the worst of disinformation to the best of alchemical glimmerings. So just a short note warning people neither to dismiss nor accept this subject in its entirety. Thanks for the links, will take another look.

Still feel ambigous on this subject, Montalk?

Thanks,  Flinter.

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montalk wrote:

I've done some research into monatomic gold and it's one hairy subject! Has the good, the bad, and the ugly -- everything from the worst of disinformation to the best of alchemical glimmerings. So just a short note warning people neither to dismiss nor accept this subject in its entirety. Thanks for the links, will take another look.

I have done a lot o reading on this subject and finally decided to give it a try.  I purchased two 50%/25/25 Gold/Rh/Ir  vials in August 2005 and started taking the powder.  Every year I get a sinus infection in Spring and another around September.  We are basically going into November and my nose is doing great.  One more thing my level of awareness has increased somehow.  I know this is quite subjective and I cannot quantify the effects but I can tell there is a difference.  I'll give it three more month and reassess again.

Odd items:

1. The powder is super white and light
2. When taking it you must not breath too hard or you will scatter it all over the place.  That is how light it is.
3. It does not look like baby powder but rather like snow flakes

I  could be persuaded to use the remainning of the powder to do some testing such as levitation if anybody here has the equipment and/or the "know how".  Any takers?

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I think I read somewhere that supposedly Thoth said that the correct balance of taking the metals is very important, and taking only some instead of the "ideal cocktail" is dangerous on the long term. I have never spoken with Thoth personally, so I'm not sure if he really claims this, or what the correct mix would be. I do know that when it comes to alchemy Thoth would probably know what he is talking about, so it might be worthwhile to seek out this information. Keep in mind that because Thoth is associated with knowledge and alchemy and such many second-rate alchemists and quacks will throw his name around and write in his name as a marketing technique.

6 (edited by Barefoot Doc 2005-10-30 05:30:38)

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See http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=1639


Some warnings, in truth i could never get to the bottom of monatomic gold discussion and was unwilling to risk using it just in case.
David Icke seems to have changed his mind at first he was skeptical and and tended to agree with the warnings but last time i went to his web site there was a link that sold it.

However, if you should be so foolish, as to EAT THE GOLD POWDER as a mechanical way of imploding your DNA.. NOT FROM SELF EMPOWERMENT... (without doing the COMPASSION work it takes to sort/embed your OWN MEMORIES as in preparing to die but living..)

then it is simple... YOU LOSE YOUR SOUL..

because your DNA can't keep making it's own recursion mag worms back into itself..

BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW BETTER HOW TO MAKE DNA SELF STEERING..

This in short, is the story of the invention of genetic engineering, on our planet. Frankenfoods, borg food, clones, etc... this is the galactic wormwood Cherynobl.. which costs whole genepools their lives! If those gene splicers who hack up our food's heart worm, HAVE NO CLUE WHAT MAKES DNA SUSTAINABLE AS A WAVE BY BRAIDING, then THEY COST YOU YOUR SOUL.

http://www.soulinvitation.com/implosion … osion.html




THE PHILOSOPHER’S STONE
One of the major goals of Alchemy was “The preparation of aurum potabile, liquid gold, a sovereign remedy, because gold being itself perfect could produce peffection in the human frame.�  -quoted from The History of Chemistry as quoted by Manly P. Hall in his The Secret Teachings of All Ages, p. CLV. Gold has long been called the metal of wisdom by the Illuminati. The Illuminati are well aware of the alchemical quest to create the correct type of gold which will bring enlightment to the world. The Rabbi’s, who know the Cabala, have considered the secret of white powdered gold the greatest secret of all times. Somehow the Egyptian Pharaoh’s had learned the secret of how to make white powdered gold which when seen up close is transparent--like the gold described in the Bible as making up the streets in heaven.

This gold is monotonic (with molecules in a high spin state), and looks like baking flour. It greatly enhances the pineal gland, and a similar substance of iridium greatly enhances the pituitary gland. Regular yellow gold or gold salts will cause the hair of the subject to fall out, but white gold is safe to ingest. After ingesting the white gold for over 9 months, a subject will become extremely psychic and disease free. The person’s body will also glow. Whether the Illuminati discovered this white gold, and have been using it secretly when their adepts went into hiding for months of long training, or whether they were only playing with substitutes we cannot say. (By the way, some occult groups groom slaves in the craft for 24 hours a day for a year.) At any rate, in recent years a man named David Hudson, who is of the Holy Blood line (13th Illuminati Bloodline, of the de Guise lineage), discovered and patented white gold. He named the white gold Ormus, which is the occult name for the Prieure de Sion.

Ormus also pertains to Gnosticism in the ancient world. Ormus is also the Hebrew words for “golden tree� , which David finds appropriate since this white gold is the elixir of life that the sho-bread (& manna) was made from. This is said to be the reason the Priest glowed when he came out of the Holy of Holies, after eating the sho-bread. David Hudson, told co-author Fritz that he was supportive of the cabalistic goal of Adam Kadmon. Because Hudson knew the cabala very well, it seems likely that he understands what Adam Kadmon is really all about. Monarch slaves of the House of Rothschild have revealed how the Illuminati are able to do what they call Proxying.

This is a Mind-Spirit transfer, done by the 1.twinning traumas, 2. channeling, 3. telepathic communication, and 4. astral projection so that all slaves worldwide are being pulled into one single interlinked Demonic One World Mind [this is the so called 'hive mind' characteristic of the Reptilian alien groups that dominate and interbreed with the human Illuminati..Ken Adachi]. We do not understand how white gold and iridium help the body become a semi-conductor so that the body is highly psychic, but it does. We hope to find out more. David Hudson has the patent (U.S. patent and some international patents) on white gold. There are a number of scientific studies on white gold which verify the power of white gold on the human body. When the co-author Fritz Springmeier talked to David Hudson, he certainly knows the occult world exceptionally well, besides being skilled in the Cabala. He claims he has nothing to do with the occult world, and that he stays away from the Illuminati. He says that he took what was occult and turned it into science. The co-author’s talk with him left many questions. David Hudson has given mankind the most important secret that has captivated the best minds of the occult world for centuries, the Quest for the Philosopher’s Stone.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/monoatom … ug05.shtml

Readers should be aware that Anna Hayes mentions in her books that taking mono atomic gold is ultimately harmful. She claims that the initial growth of psychic awareness is not permanent, but rather levels off and later declines. Further, she says that the promotion of mono atomic gold is an Illuminati deception. While attracting the public with sugar plums of enhanced psychic clarity and improved health, the ulterior purpose of promoting mono atomic gold is to cause the destruction of the ten virtual DNA strands which all humans possess and which are now manifesting into 3D reality as seen with the 3, 4, or even 5 strands of DNA that now show up in the blood of Blue Indigo (Millennium) children.

    The destruction of the ten virtual DNA strands (unseen with 3rd dimension microscopes, but nevertheless still there in the higher 4th dimensional vibratory plane) prevents a human from activating these higher dimensional DNA strands and prevents access to higher spiritual awareness and telepathic abilities, as humans and mother Earth gradually increase our base vibratory frequency and ascend into the fourth dimension (a process that began in 1987 and will likely reach completion somewhere between 2018 and 2025). The activation of more than two strands of DNA is apparently necessary to exist in physical form in the fourth dimension. So now, the hidden purpose behind the promotion of mono atomic gold is perhaps becoming more evident: the Illuminati, the militarists, the satanists, the corrupt politicians, etc., and all those who serve the Dark Master, Lucifer, will not be allowed to reincarnate on a fourth dimensional Earth.

    Thus, being confined to the 3rd dimension, the Illuminati wishes to keep their human slaves with them and not lose them to the joy, peace, and freedom of a higher dimensional Earth. When you consider that Sir Laurence Gardner, a high Illuminati insider (and full blooded Reptilian) has been continuously touting the glories of mono atomic gold in every radio interview show he's appeared on for the past few years (along with William Henry), you have to ask yourself, "should I embrace the recommendations of a satanist and high Illuminati front man or should I be running in the opposite direction as fast as I can?"]

As i say i have no idea what the truth is, my gut instinct is to stay away from it, the anecdotal health improvements i have read about sound good but bear in mind  placebo and  like antibiotics they may have a short term postitive effect but long term damage to DNA and spirit.

Edit  Covalent Attachment
Of Gold Nanoparticles
To DNA http://www.rense.com/general67/gold.htm

Q: (L) Now, we have to stop for a minute because I want to tell you something. In the past few months, I have really been watching the sky carefully every opportunity I get. On 3 or 4 separate occasions I have seen what I thought was an ordinary airplane, and I would watch it carefully and then scan to the left or right, and when I looked back at the place where this plane should be, based on observable speed and direction, there would be NOTHING there. I have stood there and searched and searched and found nothing. These things just VANISHED. I knew I had seen it, I knew I wasn't crazy, I knew it couldn't have gone away that completely - and having it happen several times has just really unsettled me. What are the implications of this, other than the fact that we could be completely overflown at all times for any number of purposes and be, as a mass of people, completely unaware of it?
A: Yes, monoatomic gold!
Q: (L) And what does the reference to monoatomic gold mean? We have wondered about obtaining and taking some of this Monoatomic Gold.
A: Are you serious? How about some small helpings of arsenic, anyone?
Q: (L) OK, my feeling is that there is some negative energy behind that, even though David Hudson is trying to be a positive person and do positive things, and that... It may be that he is being manipulated.
A: This is often true!
Q: (L) I think that taking something like that to transform your consciousness without doing the work or having it occur naturally is a violation of the Free Will of the Higher Self. That's what I think. (F) Well, did Jesus or other great masters take this gold powder?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did Adolph Hitler take this kind of powder, or something similar?
A: Yes.
Q: (F): That paints a rather bleak picture, doesn't it? (L) Could this powder be utilized to transform a person to a very positive entity doing great good?
A: Or could it be utilized to transform an entire race of beings into hypnotic submission!!!!!!!!!!!
Q: (F): Wow! (L) Put it in the water. (F) Or even just advertise it as the "Manna from Heaven" and get the biggest corporations in the world to ... I mean, you know that if this guy were not meant to spread this stuff all around, by now he'd be running into roadblocks, you wouldn't be allowed to get tapes like that out there. That was one thing I was suspicious of, like why he hasn't even been stopped, if it's really as wonderful as he claims... I mean it just doesn't fit. Anything that's really, really good, and it's going to go against the control system... Are they just going to sit back and say "Oh, yeah, we'll just let this gold powder get spread round everywhere, and everybody will take it and develop super psychic powers and wake up," just like that? I don't think so! The fact that it is being promulgated from the "other side" tells us that there is a plan here...
A: Total entrapment of the being, mind, body and soul. Strobes use minute gold filament.
Q: (L) How can that compare with taking monoatomic gold internally?
A: What composes minute filament, do you suppose? Hint, it ain't from Fort Knox!
Q: (T) Monoatomic gold.
A: Bingo. You see, this has extraordinary properties.
Q: (T) I'm sure it does! The thing is, if it does what Hudson says it does, the power structure would have shut him down - he wouldn't have gotten this far with it. So, if they are letting him do it, it's because it doesn't do what he says it does, it does the opposite. When you take the stuff for so many days, you complete the program, it restructures your genes. Isn't that what happened to us before? Do we want to do it again? (L) And, wasn't it said that LIGHT was used to cancel certain DNA factors? (J) Exactly! (L) Okay, how do we block this kind of control?
A: You don't. Knowledge protects.

from http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave11i.htm

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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It would be interesting to see monoatomic elements subjected to a kiniseology muscle test to those that have some of the powder to test.

I tested my wife a piece of paper with Monoatomic Gold written on it
and her arm got weaker, she tested me and my arm got weaker too but i would prefer to use the real thing for a proper test.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

8 (edited by whywhywhy 2005-10-30 05:44:23)

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Doc & Aprogas,
After reading the information you provided I still do not know who is deceiving who.  The sources quoted may be providing disinformation and on the other hand it could be the Iluminatti through Hudson and others.  This is a pretty hot issue and to me there is not enough information out there (that I know of) that would make me sway one way or the other.   I'll take my changes and rely on my intuition.  One more thing, based on the C's Free Will definition just got modified.  There are things one must not do....like Laura said "I think that taking something like that to transform your consciousness without doing the work or having it occur naturally is a violation of the Free Will of the Higher Self. That's what I think".  To me you do whatever you do and learn from that experience.  You may decide you will not do it again or that the lesson has been learnt but that is your own decision.......Fre Will.  By the way, one can may the case that Laura and the C's are violating the Free Will of the Higher Self by exchanging information we can gather at the right time in the future.  Why rush and accelerate what will happen naturally.  What's up with that?

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whywhywhy wrote:

Doc & Aprogas,
After reading the information you provided I still do not know who is deceiving who.  The sources quoted may be providing disinformation and on the other hand it could be the Iluminatti through Hudson and others.  This is a pretty hot issue and to me there is not enough information out there (that I know of) that would make me sway one way or the other

That makes 2 of us smile but i suppose i went on the side of caution.
outrageous claims probably made by both sides, I find it highly unlikely that
Monoatomic elements either harm or perfect DNA in truth but may do something more in the middle of the extreme points of view.

Please let us know how you get on with the powder.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

10 (edited by smeene 2005-10-30 13:41:08)

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I took "monoatomic" gold and "monoatomic" rhodium/irridium in the form of "ORMUS" Dead Sea & Celtic Sea salt wet-method precipitate that i made myself for almost a year.  I stopped about 6 months ago, partly because, i became more involved with god/jesus/the bible and that kinda made me question wether or not i was doing the right thing, and partly because making a batch of ormus is a process that takes hours over the course of over a week -- i never really made a conscious decision to stop, i just kinda stopped making it.  If I had a batch made, i'd probably still be taking it, actually I was just thinking about making a batch the other day.  Over the course of the last two years, i have definitely changed profoundly, but really, hasn't everyone here?  So, in that sense it is hard to say that ormus did any one thing for me, i can look back and say that this or that had to do with ormus, but there wouldn't really be any real way to know.  But yeah, i've definitely had some, ah, interesting experiences and changes take place over the last 2 years or so, when i have some more time i'll write a big post about things that happened that may or may not have to do with ormus.  I dont believe that ormus is anything to fear, it was a mostly positive experience for me and i'd do it again

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I've tried monatomic gold.  It was an interesting experience.  Somehow, though, buying "stuff" from someone I don't know just didn't seem right for me.  Instead, I bought a magnetic water trap.  I thought my well water was good, but the trap water is great.  At this point, it is all I want to drink.  Don't have to think consciously or force myself to drink it, by hand just reaches for it.  And it feels right.

So, that's it for me.  It gives me what I want, though I have a hard time describing what THAT is.

I still follow the white gold list, lots of interesting subjects come up.

Best,
Flinter

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Plausible deniability is what always is behind the truth that is revealed. No doubt some webpage somewhere has some truth to it, but the best way to deny it existing is exactly the argument that "if it was true, they would already be dead" and as this is widely known then in essence it makes any information worthless if taken to be true. Never forget that the controlsystem has more ways to work than a swiss armyknife.

So simply because if something is true, it would pose a serious problem to the controlsystem, dosnt make it any less true if they dont get attacked.

Anyway, did you know that in the some particle accelerator in europe they used 2 gold particles and collided them at near the speeds of light and the collision created a miniature black hole... Slightly disturbing.

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There is a very weird and separative if not elitist agenda running behind this thing.
I did some investigation and red flags came up once, black flags second, I'm outa here third.
Its not what it appears to be.
Sad indeed.

StarCat

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How do we know this process started in 1987? And how do we know when it will end?

15 (edited by sinaptix 2007-01-23 15:03:17)

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Someone just mentioned the Messages From Matthew channel, and I found this reference to Mono-atomic Gold in the January 7, 2007 Message:

S:  OK, dear, and thank you for answering my question and more! Someone who read that the Illuminati want us to ingest monoatomic gold because it prevents an increase in DNA strands and also primes us for mind control programming, wants your opinion of this.

MATTHEW:  I’ll be happy to speak about this, but it is MUCH more than my opinion!  The truth is exactly the opposite of that claim, and while that false information may have been passed on innocently, you can be sure that its originator knows gold’s place in human evolution–in highly evolved civilizations, gold is naturally an ingredient of their bodies because it is one of the most beneficial elements in the universe.  As the microcosm of the universe that each of you is, this is how it applies to you: Gold enhances brain functioning and contributes to physiological stability through cellular regeneration.  Throughout the eons of deterioration of human intelligence and the loss of knowledge that each life form started in the pure love essence of Creator and is a part of the Supreme Ruler of this universe, the use of gold went from health to wealth.  It spiraled downward from its vital role in spiritual clarity and physical well being to its use as jewelry and other objects of opulence and eventually became the foundation for some economic systems.  Gold also is an important part of higher civilizations’ technology. The earliest visitors to your planet went there precisely to look for gold, and upon discovering it, kept this a secret so they didn’t have to share their find with any other civilizations.

S: I didn’t know all of that before, but I did know the information about gold couldn’t be right or you wouldn’t have told me years ago to start taking it.   

MATTHEW:  Mother, we were talking about so many important topics then that what mattered was that you followed my advice, and since you did so without questioning, I didn’t think to say more about gold.

S:  Does taking gold have a bearing on age-reversal or a much longer lifespan than we have now?

MATTHEW:  It can contribute, but just as in all other facets of your lives, free will reigns supreme, and even in Earth’s Golden Age, not everyone will choose to “de-age�  or remain there indefinitely.  In the beginning of physical forms, no disease, old age or death were in the DNA, and the ending of a physical lifetime was by the soul’s choice to move on to different experiencing in either another form or in spirit.  However, when darkness entered the universe and warring between the dark and the light forces started, physical death began from lethal injuries in combat.  That is when the world you call Heaven and whose proper name is Nirvana was established, as the fatigued and wounded light warriors needed a safe haven to rest and recover.  After the warring moved farther away from your part of the universe, Nirvana became the spirit sanctuary for your planet.  As more dark influence came into play, human DNA was manipulated downward from the crystalline-based structure that accommodates many strands to the carbon-based with only two strands in third density beings; and the most de-volved life forms were reduced to only primordial instinct.  Throughout the ages of this de-evolution, love energy–the most powerful force in the cosmos–has been beamed as light rays to every soul in those low stations, and all who absorbed it have slowly made their way back along the scale of spiritual clarity and intelligence.

So that settles it. "Matthew" says it's cool hmm so it must be so since we all love deferring the thinking and decision making back to that outside "higher" authority. I don't really know. I also saw Laurence Gardner's Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark which seemed very pro-monoatomic gold... What else, colloidal silver and other mineral supplements are supposedly good for you, with these nano-particles suspended in the solution are supposedly very absorbable and healthy similar like if they were obtained from biologically active plant forms. David Wolfe's rawfood/sunfood.com on their mineral supplements page sells "angstrom sized" minerals "in purified ionic water" which they say additionally on their more detailed info link:

Angstrom-sized minerals are 1,000,000 times smaller than colloidal minerals. Research done by the US military and the National Institute of Health (NIH) on angstrom minerals began as far back as the 1950's, however this research was not made available to the public until now. Angstrom-sized mineral supplementation may dramatically increase the strength of the immune system, the endocrine system, the digestive system, the skin and increase alertness as well as the ability to focus. Angstrom minerals are now available in angstrom-sized mineral supplements dissolved in 7-times distilled, highly-purified water.

Angstrom minerals are an enormous advancement in mineral technology. They represent a quantum leap in supplement nutrition. Unlike bulky, difficult to absorb, colloidal minerals or mineral compounds (calcium citrate, calcium carbonate, copper glutinate, chromium picolinate, zinc picolinate, potassium sorbate, etc.) all of which are of uncertain quality and effect, angstrom-sized minerals are small enough so that they are better assimilated by the human body. Angstrom-sized minerals are the same size as the minerals found in plants.

...

Angstrom minerals are so small that they are more similar to a vibration than a solid object. This makes the quality of the water used important as water is a known carrier of vibration. The angstrom minerals we distribute are unique in the world as we put them in a pharmaceutical grade (7 times distilled) ultra-pure water.

And so I suppose I'm confused on scale with angstrom vs colloid silver as it says in the quote. But I'm wondering does it follow, that if these minerals are good for you, then would the mono-atomic gold also be? But that's assuming minerals delivered in that form are good for you. I tried their basic mineral package and really didn't notice any difference. Maybe I needed to keep going for more than one round. But it was really expensive and I was having doubts that it was worth the money... They also sell an angstrom gold. And I suppose again I may be confused and am wondering how it differs from mono-atomic gold... Maybe they are completely different stuff. I'm not sure.