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Topic: I have Agent Smith living in my flat

This has a lot to do with my circumstances in the last 2 years, so please spare a few moments to read my rant.

Let me tell you the background story first. I have a friend called Mike, and his younger brother Frodo (nickname) is also a good friend of mine. I would rank these two up there as my best friends. They are both rather "awakened", Frodo moreso.  I am currently living with the two of them and their mother (Fran) who is in the cottage in the backyard. It's good living with both of them, as we always discuss many of the things discussed here also. She is only here for another 5 weeks before she moves to the North Island of NZ to live with her husband. She is currently here to pruportedly make sure Frodo gets through his last year of High School OK.

I lived here all last year and she was totally fine because her husband lived here also, I was out in the cottage originally with my mate in the room next to mine, and they generally let us do whatever the hell we wanted. I was unemployed the first half of the year, but started working the second half full time. All was well, I was meditating constantly, spending alot of my time reading and absorbing as much information as I could about everything that interested me; immortality, conspiracy, ancient astronauts, lucid dreaming, norse mythology, nanotech, AI, consciousness, to name a few.

I moved out for a while, and ended up getting a "decent" job at a computer store, and beginning an advanced computer programming course. The job required that I cut my lovely long hair, which saddened me, but for some damn reason I did it. As 6 months dragged slowly by, I became more and more depressed, dragged down, like something had suppressed my mind and made me into a drone. Before this I had been a carefree, clued-on but slightly rebellious freedom fighter trying to bring down the matrix. I suddenly found myself becoming the very thing I hated.

Looking back, it seems like I had been possessed or controlled by an outside force. I moved back into the place I'm currently at in August, just before my birthday. I started to notice synchronicities leading toward something, but I wasn't quite sure what. Slowly I began to wake up again, and then the synchronicities lead to me seeing a friend I hadn't had contact with for years, and I mean this guy was like the best friend I'd ever had.

We caught up one night and he came around to my house for some -ahem- consuming of certain plants. It was a blast, we were talking like we had never parted. Suddenly I had inspiration to start visiting all the old websites I hadn't been to in ages. I showed my friend "Flashback" from https://www.tripatourium.com/
We started discussing the matrix, philosophising on all manner of subjects, etc etc. The next day I awoke and felt like I had hit utter rock bottom. I felt a tremendous longing to go back to the good times I had had when I was younger, I felt an overwhelming sense of sadness at the state of the world, I felt a need to live for myself.

The next day, I quit my job, I quit my course, and i went for a walk in the hills. Since that day, which I call the 2nd turning point for personal reasons, was the day I started to revert to my old ways of thought and soul freedom. I have been living every day in complete bliss, my thoughts are clear, my intentions are honest. I am back to "how I was".

But.

This is where I get to the present situation. When Fran, the mother of my friends as I mentioned, moves out of here in 5 weeks, the place effectively becomes the flat for myself, Frodo, Mike, and 2 of our friends who are going to move in. Fran has used this as a perfect opportunity to reveal her true colours. She has been on Mike's back about everything: not having a full time job, not approving of his girlfriend, basically not being the mindless drone she wants him to be. Her methods are unnecessary to say the least. They range from malicious to downright degrading. He recently got a beautiful tattoo of a wolf's head on his bicep, which she described as "hideous". She also told him that having a tattoo was spiritually abhorrent, and that he'd go to hell for it.

I have had to lie to her about being unemployed, until 2 weeks ago when I told her husband. Tonight she has had a 2 hour "talk" to Mike, where he told me she pretty much abused every aspect of his being, and also informed him that they would like to have a talk to me. TO ME. These people are not my parents, I am not their son. I am a paying tenant of their property. I am an adult, with my own opinions, my own way of life (if a little different to the norm), my own person.

She has been making life hell for all of us here, and it has been getting exponentially worse leading up to her departure. Her behaviour is getting to the point where all 3 of us are considering leaving prematurely, Mike is at the point where he wants to throw his stuff into his car, move into his girlfriends and never talk to her ever again. It's that bad.

You remember in the film "The Matrix" how the agents could take over anyone's body who was in the best position to get to a freedom fighter? I honestly, truly believe that that is what is happening here. Perhaps the Wachowski's were trying to show something with that part of the film. The same has happened to her husband, who was normally a fairly open minded guy.

Is this happening because I am uncovering more and more aspects of the "truth"? Or am I being paranoid? There have been more strange happenings in my life in the last 6 months than is healthy to ignore.

Thankyou to those who took the time to read, it is now no longer swimming around in my head, but rather out in the open.
HEY AGENTS! READ THIS! LOOK, I'M REJECTING YOUR STUPID PROGRAM. COME DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

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Re: I have Agent Smith living in my flat

Interesting situation.  Your upcoming five week period takes it right up until the end of the year.

A couple of weeks ago, I was in the company of some very awake/aware people myself, one of which was a middle-aged single mom who was stressed to the limit with daily routine stuff.  The other fellow decided to  call a good friend of his who is an astrologer that my friend swears by.  One of the things the astrologer said was that the next few months (same time period as you are dealing with) is a very bad time for many people, and basically the single most important thing to do is not to go crazy worrying.  Things will become more clear after the beginning of the new year.  I personally am in a period of major transition so that definitely could apply to me.  As far as your situation, it seems like something you may have to ride out, but knowing the above maybe can keep you from going berzerk with that woman.

As far as the question of if agents can take over anyone's body, I've thought about that question myself.  My feeling is that it's probably not as simple as that, but I have no doubt that truthseeking people, especially vocal ones, attract attention and monitoring from TPTB and may be targeted for this type of thing ... perhaps better opportunities to sell out and then be "replaced" ... who knows?   All one can do is notice the signs .. if someone who has been a genuine truthseeker for years suddenly starts talking about strange unrelated subjects with a view toward capturing (diverting) your interest, that could be an indication.

3 Reply by lyra (edited by lyra 2004-11-15 08:02:50)

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Re: I have Agent Smith living in my flat

morningsun76 wrote:

A couple of weeks ago, I was in the company of some very awake/aware people myself, one of which was a middle-aged single mom who was stressed to the limit with daily routine stuff.  The other fellow decided to  call a good friend of his who is an astrologer that my friend swears by.  One of the things the astrologer said was that the next few months (same time period as you are dealing with) is a very bad time for many people, and basically the single most important thing to do is not to go crazy worrying.  Things will become more clear after the beginning of the new year.

I just wanted to say thanks for mentioning this interesting tid bit of info.  Like you, this would describe my situation as well, and I'm sure others here at NR can relate as well.  So it's a very helpful bit of insight to have!   Thanks again.



The only thing I can say regarding agents taking over somebody's body is that I think it can definitely happen.  The more extreme cases are possession, but I don't think that's what happens necessarily when the MCS wants to influence somebody who's a threat.   I think possession is one of those more demonic things, involving serial killers, rapists, and other hardcore sociopaths, including our world leaders who seem demonically driven to persue war and killing and domination.  I think when it comes to influencing MCS threats, what the MCS does is "strongly influence" anybody around them who is easily influencable.  (is that even a word??)   ie, people who are half asleep, not easily in control of themselves, or who are naturally attuned to a more negative frequency in general, which makes them more receptive to negative influence.  The MCS puts pressure on them, influencing their feelings, getting them to say things that they ordinarily might not say.  And because they're half asleep and don't question themselves, they go along with it and just react to their newfound feelings, urges, thoughts, etc.   

This happens to EVERYBODY though, btw.  ALL of us.  The MCS is always trying to instigate fights, discord, unrest, negativity, you name it, and works through everybody to push buttons, get us to feel things that are not our true selves, like depression, anxiety, fear, anger, bitterness, etc.   As long as you're awake and aware and question your own thoughts feelings and urges at all times, you'll be okay.  That alone can override it and stop an attack.  Most people don't do this though.  Most people don't question themselves.   Your roommates mom is acting COMPLETELY irrationally, and doesn't seem to be questioning ANY of it, at ALL.   She's half asleep at the wheel and just going along for the ride, just saying whatever comes to mind, completely going with whatever anger and frustration is being tacked on to her.   

As far as advise on what to do, all I can say is hang in there for the next 5 weeks.  It's torture, but the fact is, if it really is MCS influences as it seems to be, then you leaving is exactly what they want.  It's coming down to a battle of wills. 

On the other hand, and I thought I'd throw this one out there for anybody's feedback, but how can you tell the difference between MCS attacks / negative influence versus something like your Higher Self trying to nudge you out of a situation you shouldn't be in?   I've had both before, and sometimes it's hard to tell what's what when you're in the middle of it.

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Re: I have Agent Smith living in my flat

Alushe

I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. And Yes, to a certain extent, you could say it is similar to Agents taking over someone closeby or someone connected to you, in order to try and Screw up your plans.

Please let your friends know that this may very well be the case, that outside forces are trying to "stomp on your parade"

think about it, after the new year, the house will be yours and your friends, sounds like its gonna be quite a free place for you young crusaders to expand your existance at least in the peace and qiuet of your own home.

thats why TPTB would want to foil this upcoming plans, see they even have your friend mike wanting to leave and go live elsewhere.

I can attest that this kind of thing happens. People who are aware of this Matrix and its workings are not the ones who become "taken over by agents" -- but only "asleep" people are vulnerable to this. And although u say the parents are fairly open-minded, it seems they arent fully aware of the Matrix or fully aware of the multidimensionality of existence, who knows....

It kind of reminds me of the OP theory, in a sense. only that the OP is like a temporary takeover or influence in this case, rather than being an actual living being that was OP forever.

the best thing i can tell you (which u already know) is to realize whats going on, and let your friends know what u think as well. that way, you guys can stick together thru the b.s. and find your home, sweet home!

good luck
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Re: I have Agent Smith living in my flat

On the other hand, and I thought I'd throw this one out there for anybody's feedback, but how can you tell the difference between MCS attacks / negative influence versus something like your Higher Self trying to nudge you out of a situation you shouldn't be in?   I've had both before, and sometimes it's hard to tell what's what when you're in the middle of it.

haha, oh man is this annoying or what>!?!
ill be like "wait, dont do that, its not right" then ill think "well, what if theyre just trying to stop me from doing it" then ill think "damn, which voice do i listen to ?"

ive found that the first instinct is *usually yourself, how about you lyra? this is a very interesting question, and other people's opinions would help. also, stepping back and analyzing both sides for a minute tends to help you rationalize.

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Re: I have Agent Smith living in my flat

zonabi wrote:

haha, oh man is this annoying or what>!?!
ill be like "wait, dont do that, its not right" then ill think "well, what if theyre just trying to stop me from doing it" then ill think "damn, which voice do i listen to ?"

ive found that the first instinct is *usually yourself, how about you lyra? this is a very interesting question, and other people's opinions would help. also, stepping back and analyzing both sides for a minute tends to help you rationalize.


Well, I thought about it and what I came up with is this:

Interference and MCS manipulation seems to usually be a short lived burst during a very critical juncture in one's life.  (Note:  Often times, we don't even know we're at a critical juncture, being that we're stuck in linear time anc can't rise above time to see the bigger picture and what's coming up down the pike.)  The MCS gives it their all in one very concentrated burst during a critical period.   If you fall for it, great they think, they win!  If not, bummer they think, then they lose steam like an ADD child and move on.  But they did try though.  And they will ALWAYS try.  The more of a threat the target is and the more critical the juncture, the more it warrants their attention, and the the bigger the burst.  So it can be pretty intense during the time when it's happening.   

However, a message or nudge from your higher self starts out slow and builds in a persistant effort to get you realligned with where you're supposed to be and what you're supposed to be doing.   It starts out slow, and it builds, and it builds, and if you keep ignoring it then it resorts to literally kicking you in the ass over and over, trying to get you to change or get back on track.   Colorful analogy, I know, but this is what I've noticed.  wink  big_smile    But the higher self seems to be more persistant than the MCS.  It tries harder and won't give up because it's you and it cares about its own self and evolution.   Again, this is just my opinion, and I could totally be wrong.  Maybe others have noticed something different for themselves.   And intuition also plays a key role as well, like you mentioned.

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Re: I have Agent Smith living in my flat

The past 2 weeks has been a long serie of missunderstandings for me and others around me. My advices: take time for external consideration, be careful about quick judgments and put extra efforts into communicating precisely what you want to say/do. Also make sure to settle/clarify conflicts as soon as they happen, as they are prime target for the Matrix to build things out of proportion.

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8 Reply by Neomatrix (edited by Neomatrix 2004-11-15 14:49:28)

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Re: I have Agent Smith living in my flat

Alushe wrote:

She has been making life hell for all of us here, and it has been getting exponentially worse leading up to her departure. Her behaviour is getting to the point where all 3 of us are considering leaving prematurely, Mike is at the point where he wants to throw his stuff into his car, move into his girlfriends and never talk to her ever again. It's that bad.

I would seriously think of confronting her about this unusual behavior. When she finds the time to have the little talk with you, you really should ask her what the hell is going on. Tell her how you feel about how she is making life hell for you and the others, how her overly judgmental attitude is neither appreciated or warranted, and how all three of you are considering leaving prematurely. Stand up to this woman. Perhaps if you do, the "jolt" might make her see what she is doing and how she is behaving. It might even be best if you could confront her as a group about this, rather than separately (this divide and conquer interrogation tactic is bullshit). If you do, try as hard as you can not to get angry with her, no matter what she says or does. Just calmly explain how you feel about her behavior, and she what happens.

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

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Re: I have Agent Smith living in my flat

Thanks for the advice, I've just learnt also that she is "very angry" about me being unemployed, currently it is just us 3 guys home so I've organised for us to sit and have a fume/discussion.

I've tried explaining to this woman before that I'd rather be unemployed with a little money but a lot of free time than employed with money but no time to enjoy myself. I've also used this line on my own mother, and many others who keep telling me to get a job, do a course etc etc etc. The response I've gotten almost word for word from all of these people is:

"You're not living in reality, you've got to understand that nowadays you HAVE to work."

My responses have differed depending upon whom I am talking to, as I am careful not to tread on these people's feet out of respect for their pre-programmed TV-induced beliefs, but usually I try to throw in:

"Look at it this way, you could only have one life, why would you want to spend it as a means to no end?"

People don't seem to understand that I want to spend the time I have here discovering all the secrets that 3d existence holds, and then moving onward to better things.

Thanks again,

Alushe.

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Re: I have Agent Smith living in my flat

Alushe wrote:

I've tried explaining to this woman before that I'd rather be unemployed with a little money but a lot of free time than employed with money but no time to enjoy myself. I've also used this line on my own mother, and many others who keep telling me to get a job, do a course etc etc etc.

::bloik:: Are you my brother??!!?!

Alushe wrote:

"You're not living in reality, you've got to understand that nowadays you HAVE to work."

Damn, you have been talking to my father on the phone! That's his guilty f*cking secret! Hah!

Alushe wrote:

"Look at it this way, you could only have one life, why would you want to spend it as a means to no end?" People don't seem to understand that I want to spend the time I have here discovering all the secrets that 3d existence holds, and then moving onward to better things.

You don't understand Working Class Guilt. We are supposed to define ourselves through work. After all, we aren't rich, you know? We weren't born lucky. We are supposed to work our fingers to the bone in order to pay for our meagre existences here. To do less is blasphemy, and without honor. Because ... because ... we are better than rich people! Yes! See, we suffer and they don't, and suffering is honorable. Join us in our suffering, and reclaim your honor and our respect.

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe