Topic: Not my words...

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

--W. B. Yeats

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

Re: Not my words...

Thanks for posting this. What's the one about "some rough beast which crouches towards Bethlehem to be born" and "Turning and turning in the widening gyre, the falcon cannot see the falconer" and "the center cannot hold." That's all I remember at the moment, but its good stuff, in't?

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Some of you may be wondering why a posted a Yeats poem on the Current Events page.

First of all I'll have to admit that I was lit up like a Christmas Tree last night... I really didn't mean to be in such a state. I met with some friends who were having shots of what I thought was Schnapps which has a relatively low alcohol level. I found out after a few shots roll, way to late, that it Rumple-something-or-the-other which is 100 proof, and I hadn't eaten dinner. Sheesh! I now remember why I stopped drinking like that, shoots of alcohol, years ago. I thank that Green Goddess on a Ritz Cracker that I was less than a mile from home. Although I don't think I posted this here irrationally, I do believe it belongs here, but if I wasn't crocked I probably wouldn't of had the guts to post it here for worrying others wouldn't see it as a likely Current Event topic. But it's here so I figure I've some 'splaining to do.

So anyway, I got home, safely, and picked up a book I had bought at the used book store called The Experiment by John Darnton. I was thumbing through the first pages and found this Yeats poem, and it finally hit me--this poem expresses exactly the unrest I've been damn near plagued with lately... that something big is going to happen. I having been trying to access, intuitively, what the heck is causing me to feel so uneasy about "the future" and the most I've even been able to "see" is a slow swirling mass, up in the air... and swirling so slow it can't be called tornadic. And it's weird because in this swirling mass are machines like TV's, computers, cars, even tanks and weapons, etc.. No people though. Don't ask me why 'cause I'm not knowing why machines, of all things, but big as day that's what's there.

Anyway, the overall feeling from seeing this is that the future is up in the air, almost like Fate has stepped aside if you will, and what will happen next is still unknown... and unknown even by those who think they know. Intuitively, it feels like other citizens of the cosmos are looking on at us here in 3D Land with their breath held and their fingers crossed... what CHOICE will humanity make now at this pivotal juncture in history? The last lines of this poem shot such a sense of a pall into me, and was very, very sobering... killed my buzz for sure, and I got massive chills running through me--

W. B. Yeats wrote:

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

But I think maybe it DOESN'T have to be this way... I think that's why I'm intuiting the feeling from a higher than I source/s that it's up to us. We've been given the tools of feeling what's right in our hearts and the power to discern conscientiously to create a better future. We know action follows thought, but if ever, at least I think, there was a time to be active with our thoughts to create action, then that time is right now. There is a window of opportunity of the likes I don't think has been available before.

I know, I know... how many intuitives, psychics, channelers have uttered these very words many, many times over, but I have never, never felt this so strongly before that I felt like I had to actually put it into print in the public eye, myself become venerable, and ask please, please, please be mindful of your thoughts... take as much time as you can to envision a future filled with compassion. You and me, all of us, need to be mindful not to allow doubt and fear enter into our hearts and thoughts even though things are really iffy these days and we know how we and others are disserved all to well.

And please, I'm not being my normal "cheerleader" Go Team Light Go! here, rather I am asking a very somber and authentic request. I will be heeding my own advice from here on out, and not pester anyone with this again.

Thanks for listening guys.... please forgive my mushiness, but it's true... I love you guys.

And no, I'm not still tipsy big_smile.

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

Re: Not my words...

think about it this way

like a virus, "evil" must run its course.

seems like theyve been at it for over "20 centuries"

maybe their time is coming to and end, and thats why "they" are hurrily trying to figure out what in the world to do to keep their reign over earth...

but i certainly join you in wishing and praying for peace and love and light !

peace & love & light
z

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

5 (edited by Auendove 2004-11-13 17:12:16)

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zonabi wrote:

but i certainly join you in wishing and praying for peace and love and light !

Tanx dude! wink

SednaSphere wrote:

What's the one about "some rough beast which crouches towards Bethlehem to be born" and "Turning and turning in the widening gyre, the falcon cannot see the falconer" and "the center cannot hold." That's all I remember at the moment, but its good stuff, in't?

Hi ya Sedna,

Oh my, I don't know Yeats that well, but as far as poets go, and for that I've really only read two of his poems, the one above and this next one, they both moved me in ways that are unique... and I'm used to being moved smile. I read this next one probably seven or eight years ago and you want to talk about one mind moving fast... oddly though, I at the time interpreted it differently than others I showed it too. I thought Sacred Animals referred to Arcangels. Too bad I can't ask Yeats.

W. B. Yeats wrote:

Sacred Animals

A sudden blow: the great wings beating still
Above the staggering girl, her thighs caressed
By the dark webs, her nape caught in his bill,
He holds her helpless breast upon his breast.

How can those terrified vague fingers push
The feathered glory from her loosening thighs?
And how can body, laid in that white rush,
But feel the strange heart beating where it lies?

A shudder in the loins engenders there
The broken wall, the burning roof and tower
And Agamemnon dead.
                                  Being so caught up,
So mastered by the brute blood of the air,
Did she put on his knowledge with his power
Before the indifferent beak could let her drop?

Something else, in't it? Shoo-whee! And, again, those last two lines made me feel like I had exploded when I read it the first time. It may've been years ago, but I remember that feeling like it was yesterday.

I do believe Mr. Yeats had a way with words.

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
------
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

6 (edited by lyra 2004-11-13 16:33:04)

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Okay.......another Noble Realms synchronicity.........!

Last night while Auendove was lit up like a Christmas tree on Rumbleminz being inspired by Yeats big_smile big_smile  we were at Barnes and Noble and I passed by a section I've never gone by before nor had any interest in, the Literature / Poetry area, and one of the few books that caught my attention was............a volume of poetry by Yeats.  I stopped and actually reflected on it for a second.   It stood out for me in particular because I remembered the scene in the movie "Equilibrium" where Christian Bale's character, John Preston, the head cleric, shoots a fellow cleric in the head because he's been busted for not taking his Prozium and committing a sense offense.  At the time that John Preston kills him, his friend was busted sitting alone in an abandoned building reading a book of poetry by Yeats. (books are illegal in the movie).   His cleric friend's last words were a line of poetry by Yeats as he raises the book up to Preston's gun in defiance and keeps on reading.   

How strange though that I was pondering Yeats and Audendove was also thinking about Yeats and posted an excerpt from his poetry.......

(btw, montalk didn't know this and later on at home used the word "equilibrium" when he was saying something to me.  smile   go figure.....synchronicities abound.......wonder what's coming up down the pike?)

Thought I'd add this interesting link about Yeats. It's an online biography with links to all his poetry if anybody's interested in finding out more about him or reading his work:

http://www.online-literature.com/yeats/

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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7 (edited by Auendove 2004-11-13 15:38:27)

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lyra,

Holy mole chiquita! I had no idea Yeats was influenced by the occult, reincarnation, and Chinese mysticism. Vewee, vewee interesting.

And yeah, like you lyra I just don't sit around reading poetry, it was so happenstance to come across another one of his poems the way I did.

BTW--it was about 8:30 to 9:00 PM when I read the poem.

Thanks for the link lyra. I may have to take some sittin' around time and dedicate it to reading more Yeats. After all, he's just as gripping, if not more so, as is Koontz and King smile.

Rumpleminz, yes, that was the culprit!  Don't think I'll be trying that "juice" again anytime soon. big_smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
------
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Synchronicities abound here at Noble Realms!   

Auendove wrote:

Holy mole chiquita!

While you were writing this Auendove, I was over here on my end practicing my Espanol, with one of those Barron's language courses with the book and 12,000 accompanying CD's, repeating things outloud in Spanish while the cat keeps looking at me, alarmed.   big_smile  big_smile   No kidding.  How weird is that??

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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9 (edited by Auendove 2004-11-13 17:41:41)

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All I can say is it's a good thing I wasn't drinking my glass of milk when I read this or it would've been shooting outta my nose! big_smile

I went into a new Cuban Sandwich and Grocery shop across the street the other day and it took 10 min. and six (!) different employees before I got someone who spoke english! I was stunned. I wondered how they were going to make it.

Before I went there I was at the laundry mat and there was the cutest little hispanic boy, big brown soulful eyes and all. Well, I'm chatting away with him, he just looking at me and blushing, and finally his mother said that he didn't speak english. DOH! Poor kid, I must've looked like some kind of weird nut to this kid going on and on about Finding Nemo... at one point I was going "Escape" again and again like Dory said in the movie. roll Sometimes I'm such a DORK! He had on Nemo sandals and that's what started the whole thing. Of course "Escape" like Dory was saying it was en espanol, so the only thing the kid could understand of what I was saying was Escape! Escape! Escape! Aye carumba!

Anyway, the mother said he would learn english when he went to kindergarten... ahem, I suggested she teach him before that or he might just have a really hard time adjusting.

And with both of these events happening back to back I thought that maybe it's time I pulled out my old college Spanish book and brush up on the language. I kid you not.

Hope you weren't drinking anything! big_smile

I've even been daydreaming of me and my man-critters (mate and son) moving to the Yucatan and opening up a Fried Chicken, Collard Greens, and Mashed Potato stand, and living out our remaining time here in 3D Land at rest. Nothing like a little healthy escapism to sooth the soul, eh?

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
------
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Auendove wrote:

And with both of these events happening back to back I thought that maybe it's time I pulled out my old college Spanish book and brush up on the language. I kid you not.

That's definitely coincidental.  For me I had the urging several months ago to fill in the gaps with my Spanish knowledge.  Mainly, being able to speak it.   In a nutshell, I can't.  big_smile   I can read it with no problem and know all the major vocabulary and verbs, and can make my way through a Spanish language newspaper and figure out what's going on, and I can read any signs in Spanish and navigate in an area where things are in Spanish, but I can't speak it to save my life.  And when others speak it??  Forget it!   They speak WAY too fast!   I'm always like AHHH!  Slow down!!  I don't know what you're saying!!    This is due to the way we were taught it in school in CT.   Memorize and regurgitate.   Memorize the words....written tests on vocabulary and verb conjugation.......but minimal if any practice speaking it and hardly any time spent listening to it with headphones or anything.   I mean, how in the hell is someone supposed to properly learn a foreign language without listening to it???    Thank God I had 10 years in little Mexico I mean, Southern California wink  and 2 1/2 years in South Florida, so I picked up on all the subtle pronunciation nuances on my own due to being surrounded by so many people speaking Spanish so much of the time.   But I still didn't dare try to speak it myself.   This bothers me, so several months ago I invested in the Barron's course.  $80!   But it's VERY comprehensive.  But then we left Florida!!    So I shelved the idea.  Finally I was like, screw it, I'm going through with this.  I want to finish what I started in 7th grade!!!   I can read it but can't speak it??     This is nuts!

I do wonder though if we're being "urged" to "refresh" ourselves on Espanol for other reasons?   Remember what the C's said?   Do something because it seems like a fun idea at the time......because you never know what the bigger picture is overall and why you might find yourself with an urge to do something, and how that thing might come in handy later.


Auendove wrote:

  I've even been daydreaming of me and my man-critters (mate and son) moving to the Yucatan and opening up a Fried Chicken, Collard Greens, and Mashed Potato stand, and living out our remaining time here in 3D Land at rest. Nothing like a little healthy escapism to sooth the soul, eh?

Sounds fun!   You think there's any room for a hotdog stand?!  If so, I'm there!    big_smile  big_smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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11 (edited by Auendove 2004-11-13 20:20:40)

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lyra wrote:

Sounds fun!   You think there's any room for a hotdog stand?!  If so, I'm there!  big_smile big_smile

A hot dog expert are ya? big_smile

The more the merrier as far as I'm concerned! Maybe more NR members are in the mood for a good daydream too... I'm sure there's BBQ masters, and pancake masters, and pot roast masters out there, and vegan masters too! And PIE! Lots of pies! What US American doesn't know pie?

We would become a Noble Realms Tribunal de Alimento!

I have such a big smile on my face that I'm beaming! I'm sure to have sweet dreams tonight! Good thoughts of good times... escape!

BTW--those of you who don't speak espanol, or haven't seen the Nemo movie, that's pronounced--

es-cop-aaaaaay... it's fun to say!

big_smile

EDIT--I hope Yeats is up there somewhere rollin' around on a cloud laughing his ass off about where this thread's gone! Snicker! Snort! Snicker!

Oh yeah (sheesh I'm tired)--

lyra wrote:

I do wonder though if we're being "urged" to "refresh" ourselves on Espanol for other reasons?   Remember what the C's said?   Do something because it seems like a fun idea at the time......because you never know what the bigger picture is overall and why you might find yourself with an urge to do something, and how that thing might come in handy later.

Well, I hadn't thought about this... good point to make lyra.

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
------
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

12 (edited by wandering1 2004-12-06 21:58:57)

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Great poem! I remember this one from my teenage years.  Particularly the line: "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."  I have pasted the whole poem below. 


The Second Coming

TURNING and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

--W. B. Yeats

13 (edited by Auendove 2004-12-07 16:11:59)

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wandering1,

Oh, now I see... the author of the book didn't put the whole poem on the page, nor did he indicate in any grammaric fashion that it was only part of the poem. Neither had he put the title.

I see this is what SednaSphere was referring to in her comments as well.

Thanks wandering1.

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
------
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

Re: Not my words...

No problemo.  I'm happy to contribute.  :-)