1 Topic by Auendove (edited by Auendove 2004-11-09 12:35:05)

  • From: terra incognita
  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Topic: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

I just got a frantic call from a dear friend saying one of her co-workers daughter, 13 years old, has been Baker Acted by the school claiming she's a danger to others and herself. Why? Because she had a personal journal, a notebook, with her PRIVATE anarchist thoughts about Bush. One of her classmates had seen the notebook and ratted her out... can you imagine a 13 year old girl being a danger? As well, I guess another classmate had stated that she was suicidal too. Great, huh?

For those of you who don't know what Baker Acting is--

http://d40758.u23.coolhandle.com/gpage.html1.html

I don't know this girl, I don't know her parents, but I am livid! My friend called for advice since I've worked in the Mental Health field before... I said they should get a lawyer and raise some unholy hell. I also suggested the CHILD should be on her best behavior for the 72 hr. period least that have any reason to keep her longer, which they can do.

I guess minors don't have Civil Rights nor the coveted right to freaking freedom of speech... who <bleepin'> needs the <bleepin'> Constitution when you've got the <bleepin'> Patriot Act! :x

She's only 13 years old, she's being put into a mental ward with god knows what could happen to her, and I know... I know with almost 100% certainty they're going to drug her up. I'm so mad I could spit nails.

My friends employer and her were talking after the mom left to go to the school, the employer said, 'I guess it's getting to the point we need to keep our mouths shut and keep our opinions to ourselves'.

It's a sad time to be one of those 49% of US Americans who didn't vote for The Shrub.

Unbelievable.

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  • From: zerone
  • Registered: 2004-08-16

Re: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

absolutely mad!!!!

this reminds me of an article i read about some autistic kid(9 yrs old), who just like in this story, was being expelled etc (and examined by psychologists) for behaving "strangely"

A school banned an Autistic Child from being able to play on the playground with other children during recess time, a move that was frowned upon by many psychologists- and caused the parents to take some legal action against the school in Maine.


Quote:
The parents of 9-year-old Jan Rankowski are suing Falmouth school officials for banning their home-schooled son, who has Asperger's syndrome, from the town's public playground.


"This is going to help children across America," said Charles Rankowski, Jan's father. "Schools are going to realize they can't exclude a child because of a disability."


the school's officials, trying to cover their ass(ets) - claim they did not permanently ban the child from the playground, they simply suspended this "privaledge" because they wanted a psychologist to evaluate the chil'ds behaviour (after receiving complaints)

The child has "Asperger's syndrome, named for a Viennese physician, is an autism-related condition characterized by deficiencies in social and communication skills that was first recognized as a disability only a decade ago. "


what i found interesting is that the little child was smart enough to tell the Teacher Aide that she(he?) doesnt have to listen to her. Its even more interesting that the autistic child was telling the other kids that they don't have to listen to the teacher aide either. now thats one smart kid !!

this is pathetic, targeting children.

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  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

This is an outrage if ever there was one. Fooey. Boo these people! (Copying zonabi here!) How can they live with themselves, doing this to these kids? Well, if you're not fully alive in the first place, maybe. I've always wondered about this sort of social scourge. Ratted out! Oh, it's horrid.

  • From: Zion
  • Registered: 2004-09-28

Re: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

Yet more concrete proof the world is descending into an Orwellian nightmare. Forget reading "1984"--here in 2004 we're living it.

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

5 Reply by Stephen M (edited by Stephen M 2004-11-10 03:32:01)

  • From: Saint Louis
  • Registered: 2004-08-21

Re: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

Get ready for the new round of tactics, this is very ugly, especially when it hits close to home, but anywhere for that matter. Will this kind of thing soon be everyday news? Oh, look they've picked up another round of 'whatchamacallits' (insert sanitized term). Is your brain dirty? We  can help you there. Hell, they'll probably figure out a way to sell it. Conformity in a can, step right up.

Sorry that it effected someone you know, Auendove.

Stephen

  • Registered: 2004-10-24

Re: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

they want to do forced psychological testing of children 3 times a year and they want to do forced psychological testing of the parents once a year.  If your child thinks for themselves then they are a danger to their society

  • From: US
  • Registered: 2004-09-21

Re: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

I tried to respond yesterday, but I was getting too pissed.  This is utterly sick.  I hope the parents can fight back.  Sending you and your friends some help Auendove.
Kathy

Never Give Up!

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  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

Yeah, Neomatrix is right. "1984" is here and then some. If you want to know a much milder version of today's control, then read the book! Otherwise, unfortunately, all you need to do is look around for how it's been "improved."Wow.

9 Reply by Auendove (edited by Auendove 2004-11-10 12:20:30)

  • From: terra incognita
  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

smeene wrote:

they want to do forced psychological testing of children 3 times a year and they want to do forced psychological testing of the parents once a year.  If your child thinks for themselves then they are a danger to their society

I don't even know what to say, this that you've written is... is... ummm... kwap! There's not even a word I have in my vocabulary that illustrates how freaking WRONG this is.

Along the same lines, in FL they've started a program through the FL State Health Dept. where 1st, 3rd, and 5th grades are going to be weighed (BMI index and all) and the results are going to be sent home to parents with suggestions to parents of overweight children that they put their children on diets. Of course I can appreciate that it's not healthy for a young child to be obese, but the very danger of this is if those overweight children aren't found to be losing weight the parents can be charged with Child Neglect... uh-huh... not pretty, huh? As it was I was threatened to be charged and arrested for Child Abandonment once, and if I hadn't of involved the media I probably would've been... and I trust you all will understand that I was being manipulated by the system and that I really wasn't a horrible mother.

The Dept. of Children and Families (DCF) in this state is already so overwhelmed that there's been at least one big hullabaloo where State Social Workers have LOST children. I don't know what makes them think they're going to be able to handle all of this. I worked for DCF temporarily one summer running an Emergency Housing program (HUD) for the homeless and let me tell you the cynism of the Social Workers I worked with was deplorable. They are overworked, underpaid, and their hands are so tied by bureaucracy they almost have no choice but to be ineffectual.

But psychological testing? Forced? It's a damn good thing my child is a grown man because I would DRAW THE LINE right there. And sheesh! I'd be up shit creek without a paddle because I don't conform to anything the "system" covets, I'd be found to be a whack-job no doubt.

smeene, is this to be Federally mandated or is it just in your state?

EDIT--Ahem... thanks to all of you wishing this current situation well.

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  • From: US
  • Registered: 2004-09-21

Re: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

Auendove,
I was wondering if there were any developments in this case.  Is the child ok now?  I haven't forgotten.  I have thought about her from time to time and tried to send some protection. 
Kathy

Never Give Up!

freeme's Website

11 Reply by smeene (edited by smeene 2004-11-28 10:52:53)

  • Registered: 2004-10-24

Re: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

Auendove, it was in the "new freedom initiative", which has already passed in congress(in an omnibus bill iirc) and is a nation-wide change.  Heres an article about it before it passed http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a … E_ID=39078 official website: http://www.hhs.gov/newfreedom/  search for "new freedom initiative" on google to find more.

Also fyi the 9/11 bill includes the patriot act II and the national ID card, they didn't pass it this session but they are going to have a con con in december and shove it down our throats.  Its funny(sad) because the congress didn't pass it last session, and of course now the media says that "congress let us down" and "congress doesn't care about our safety" (of course without discussing any of the content of the bill at all)

  • From: terra incognita
  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

freeme wrote:

Auendove,
I was wondering if there were any developments in this case.  Is the child ok now?  I haven't forgotten.  I have thought about her from time to time and tried to send some protection. 
Kathy

Well, dear Kathy, there's good news big_smile! I had the time to get the scoop tonight. As it ends up a Guidance Counselor became an advocate for the young woman in question... not to mention her step-father is a cop who knows the cop that works the school. It seems as though the principal of the school stepped in just a tad over his head. This doesn't mean all has been hunky-dory, I'm told most of the kids in the school are shunning her, and as well, another one of her writings, a letter to Bush, has been exposed to the kiddie school PTB roll and there's some kind of stir about that.

The young woman is, from what I'm told, "intellectually gifted" and the school counselor that stepped up to the plate for her has managed to have her placed into a newly developed school for... ahem, her kind.

Heeheehee.... now if the 'lil Indigo Child will be able to get her anger under control enough to learn.... being an Indigo must be a real life challenge I think.

I asked my friend if she could get a copy of the young woman's letter written to Bush so I could post it here, she said it was very touching and insightful.

Little radicals in the making... gotta love 'em, eh?

big_smile big_smile big_smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

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  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: 13 year old girl a danger to society?

I love it. It would be good to read that letter.