Re: Noble Realms Across America

seeker wrote:

I thought about this many times. I think making a movie with a specific message would be a good way to reach a lot of people. But it would have to be really well done, because no one is going to pay much attention to a bad movie.

I've thought about doing this too. If you ever seriously think about doing it, I'd happily collaborate on a screenplay idea. Would be great fun to write, after all!

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

17 (edited by morningsun76 2004-10-12 19:47:34)

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We get movies like "They Live," "The Truman Show," "Dark City," "The Matrix," "The Arrival," etc.  All dealing with the dark facts of reality in a metaphorical way, never dealing with the truth directly.  Why???  I think it's probably because those writing or approving the scripts are beholden to the occult establishment/TPTB in one way or another. They're not free to discuss these topics openly, but apparently they're allowed to discuss these subjects when veiled in allegory.  Those of us aware of certain truths who are NOT subject to any occult laws however, in my opinion, in theory should be free to write a screenplay or other work discussing these things at face value.  I think perhaps the higher density laws of freewill may protect us in this scenario.  If I'm wrong, then trying anything of the sort will quite likely result in the most dire of consequences.  But the NWO slavery a lot of people are expecting is basically hell on earth anyway, so what's the harm in trying?  smile

(That's my warped version of positive thinking!)

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Here, here! :-)

The movies you mention are actually all very good movies, in that they DO help the awakening process in some people who simply "click" with the idea that human affairs are not entirely under human control. But yes, they are limited. Recently a small, privately financed movie called "What The Bleep Do We Know?" has gained an almost cult following, and has been playing in increasingly more theatres across America. It is a mixture of a fictional tale concerning one character's awakening to a different idea of reality, along with factual interviews with quantum physicists and various researchers in the field of metaphysics into the deeper questions of life, the universe, and consciousness. It was produced with a relatively small budget, and distributed by a production company you've never heard of. As long as there is a good chance that it will make money, a movie will usually always find a distributor. Forget the large production companies, and look towards the smaller independents.

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

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Count me in, who's got the money?

Bullsh** walks.


Stephen

20 (edited by ermolai 2004-10-13 06:23:36)

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Lyra,

There are ways to "do something" and you'll eventually find it and be guided toward it if you keep in mind this intention. "Where there is a will, there is a way". They may have black helicopters, homeland security, and all this but we are protected by forces which are more powerful than they will ever be.

The most important for me is to reconnect people and try to work on small groups with STO principles, because "they" gain power through division. The theme under which people gather can be anything which feels right. There are many who are seeking and/or waiting to be "activated" by those who have already found some keys...

This is just one example but anything can be done, as long as you set your will and heart to it, and you are ready to face the challenges associated with this path. We have to remember that we have come on this planet to ground/channel/anchor new energies. This means MANIFESTATION in the physical world is very important.

21 (edited by zonabi 2004-10-13 08:40:35)

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manyeagles wrote:

Maybe a screenplay or movie?

now THAT would be AWESOME.

I go to Art School and know people who put together movies.

Here's my idea for a screenplay that I've considered writing: It would basically be a better version of the original Matrix movie but with more specific symbols instead of vague symbols that can interpreted to fit anything you want. It would basically be about someone who's very absorbed into 3D material life suddenly 'waking up' and seeing what's going on in the world: that most politicians are puppets, that there may be alien life visiting us and that this alien life may be orchestrating human events behind the scenes, using world leaders as their puppets. There would also be a spiritual aspect to the movie and include scenes of OBEs and past-life memories.

I don't know how much of this could be said outright in a movie and still be released into theaters by a major movie corporation. Some things would have to be implied and never said outright probably but that's what always bugged me about the Matrx et al. Those types of movies always skirted around the issue and dropped hints but never said outright what the hell is going on.

thats why you make an INDEPENDENT FILM, no restrictions WHATSOEVER. ive got friends whove done this...

OF course there is alot of involvement and management that goes into making a movie, but it IS one of the BEST ways to reach people.

Forget the large production companies, and look towards the smaller independents.

exactly.

you can count me in
(on whatever we want to try)
ive got graphical skills, advertising skills, and connections to media producers.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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you know some other things that might work, and are considerably less difficult to undertake:

- "comics" a somewhat humouroues comic strip about all this stuff we love to talk about (i would be glad to help on this one, as i can draw, render, use ps and illustrator)

- "political cartoons" you remember those political cartoons they used to make as propaganda back in WWII ? they proved very insightful.

- "a script/story" this could be the first step in the movie process, a script or story can also be passed around just as a story. but this renders the chances of people not taking it too serious, and just thinking its fiction (but at least they get the information, right?)

more as i think of them...

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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morningsun76 wrote:

We get movies like "They Live," "The Truman Show," "Dark City," "The Matrix," "The Arrival," etc.  All dealing with the dark facts of reality in a metaphorical way, never dealing with the truth directly.  Why???  I think it's probably because those writing or approving the scripts are beholden to the occult establishment/TPTB in one way or another. They're not free to discuss these topics openly, but apparently they're allowed to discuss these subjects when veiled in allegory.

Just a consideration... perhaps this is veiled in order to preserve freewill and only allow people who have already been questionning in that direction to get confirmations? So maybe such tactic is STO in nature? I see the C's doing this a lot in the transcripts.

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ermolai wrote:

Just a consideration... perhaps this is veiled in order to preserve freewill and only allow people who have already been questionning in that direction to get confirmations? So maybe such tactic is STO in nature? I see the C's doing this a lot in the transcripts.

Interesting suggestion.  I know that's how it always happened with me: finding that other people's ideas fit with those which I had come up with through my own investigations and intuition.  You're probably on to something.  Though I wonder how exactly keeping truth under covers is preserving free will.   I guess if everyone is already a slave, they have to make their OWN choices to open their minds and seek truth, and work to start seeing through the illusion.   That would make sense.

I was thinking along the lines that these things were coming from STO people caught within the STS structure.  But perhaps it's a bit bigger than that.   Interesting food for thought.

25 (edited by ermolai 2004-10-13 12:10:41)

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morningsun76 wrote:

Though I wonder how exactly keeping truth under covers is preserving free will.   I guess if everyone is already a slave, they have to make their OWN choices to open their minds and seek truth, and work to start seeing through the illusion.   That would make sense.

Yes. Do you think it takes a genius to realize that the world is being controlled by forces not having our best interest in mind? I think it's clear as daylight, yet from my experience it takes a lot of time to accept it. So it has more to do with a certain willingess to go past the illusion, a certain strenght to cross the line, rather than a pure sharing of information. Analogies are sometimes best to reach/activate the unconscious/soul, without having the information blocked by the conscious/predator's mind (I'm just thinking this is maybe how our higher self also passes information through our dreams?).

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morningsun76 wrote:

Though I wonder how exactly keeping truth under covers is preserving free will.

Adding to what ermolai just said in response, ambiguity also allows the right people to learn the right things in accordance with their choice of interpretation. When you instead try to push an idea upon those who neither need nor want it, they will react in nonconstructive ways like ignoring it, becoming psychologically damaged by it, misinterpreting it, worshipping and preach it without understanding, or lashing out and persecuting the messenger. Ambiguity makes certain ideas blind to the blind.

If 3D is precursor to 4D, and 4D encompasses both STS and STO polarities, then it makes sense that current and future experiences - both individual and collective - serve to kick 3D people further toward the polarity of their choosing. Ambiguity allows both polarities to be served this way.

Example: a strongly STS person may see the Matrix trilogy as inspiration to see himself better than all the other asleep sheep and perhaps feel justified in committing violence upon them to get his way; an STO-leaning person may see the Matrix for its gnostic/transcendental message and be inspired to wake him/herself and others out of the illusion. For everyone else not sufficiently polarized, it was just a sci-fi flick.

Same goes for Wizard of Oz: STS forces use it as a framework for mind programming, unpolarized people see it strictly as entertainment, and STO-leaning ones may perceive the subtle message about how following one's heart can lead to liberation in the end.

It's a trade-off -- to reach the largest number of people, you will need the largest level of ambiguity. And if you make something that is very obvious and direct, it will only be openly received by a small number of people. I don't think you can have it both ways UNLESS something happens to increase mass demand for alternative information. As time goes on, I sense that will happen...earth changes, political turmoil, increasingly blatant maneuvers by the NWO, etc... will cause more and more people to feel the pressure and begin asking questions. It's already happening thanks to 9-11 and the Iraq fiasco.

Now, about making something direct that reaches a small number of people, this may actually be a very effective way of doing things. We already know that "trying to reach the masses" is difficult due to the system being locked down. So going the other route means sending complete, empowering, and direct information to a small number of effective, receptive, and inquisitive people. You all know about the nonlinear "butterfly effect" where small triggers can create huge consequences over time? Well, reaching a quality core of people may be the primary way in which we can salvage the future. This is what ermolai suggested about working in small STO-leaning groups. By choosing quality over quantity, nonlinear/synchronistic/divine factors can help amplify the smallest input into an unexpectedly significant output.

But I think there is also plenty that can be done for people at large as long as it's done cleverly like what's been suggested so far on this thread. To add to that, I think it would be fun to write a concise but hard-hitting flyer containing the essentials of what people need to know, printing it as a sticker, and pasting it up in public restroom stalls. Between reading the flyer and all the "for a good time, call #####" scribbles, I think they'd choose the former big_smile

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Stephen M wrote:

Count me in, who's got the money? Bullsh** walks.

It doesn't cost a dime to write out a story idea and convert to a screenplay. One hurdle at a time, folks ;-)

zonabi wrote:

you can count me in
(on whatever we want to try)
ive got graphical skills, advertising skills, and connections to media producers.

See, we already have contacts :-)  If it is meant to be, it'll come together one way or another. If not, then it won't. No harm in trying though, and whatever else happens it would be a fun creative process.

zonabi wrote:

you know some other things that might work, and are considerably less difficult to undertake:

- "comics" a somewhat humouroues comic strip about all this stuff we love to talk about (i would be glad to help on this one, as i can draw, render, use ps and illustrator)

- "political cartoons" you remember those political cartoons they used to make as propaganda back in WWII ? they proved very insightful.

Comics would be a great idea, especially in the humorous vein that you talk about. Political cartoons would also be a great additon to the main montalk website IMHO.

zonabi wrote:

"a script/story" this could be the first step in the movie process, a script or story can also be passed around just as a story. but this renders the chances of people not taking it too serious, and just thinking its fiction (but at least they get the information, right?)

A script could well be the first step in a movie process, or converted into a story that could be published online. The direction it would take would depend on the quality of the finished script and any ability we have to steer it in one direction or another. The greatest resources we have are the people here on the forum, in any eventuality. It might be fun to do as a community project, similar to the Wiki idea we have been talking about in the Announcements section.

I'd be in it.

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

28 (edited by freeme 2004-10-13 13:51:03)

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How about building on the movies that are already out there, but adding the twist: "What if.....its true?"  Then give rational reasons why 4D, aliens, conspiracy, Lizzie, crop circles, et all, could be true.  It's still somewhat ambiguous.  It would still honor freewill, ie. people would be more emotionally free to reject it than a movie or book which says "Aliens are coming! The end is Near! Illuninazis Control Your Mind!  Run for your Lives!"  And it seems like such a format would be non-threatening enough to stimulate more questioning by the viewer/reader without paralyzing them with fear.

Just my thoughts,
Kathy

Never Give Up!

29 (edited by Neomatrix 2004-10-13 14:51:58)

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freeme wrote:

It would still honor freewill, ie. people would be more emotionally free to reject it than a movie or book which says "Aliens are coming! The end is Near! Illuninazis Control Your Mind!  Run for your Lives!"  And it seems like such a format would be non-threatening enough to stimulate more questioning by the viewer/reader without paralyzing them with fear.

Yeah, I don't think there would be much point to just writing a "The End Is Nigh" script. That has already been done a bunch of times. The opportunity is in presently a higher level overview of the events unfolding on the planet, thus presenting a possibility to help remove fear. Material should be empowering, not disempowering :-)

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

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Neomatrix,
I think you misunderstood me.  I was saying that it would be a good idea to build off the fiction that is already out there like morningsun said:


morningsun76 wrote:

We get movies like "They Live," "The Truman Show," "Dark City," "The Matrix," "The Arrival," etc.  All dealing with the dark facts of reality in a metaphorical way, never dealing with the truth directly. ...

Except take it one step further with a book or movie which asks "What if...It's True?"  I meant that this would be better than a movie which just threatens the "End is Nigh".  Sorry, if I wasn't clear on that.
Kathy

Never Give Up!