1 Topic by Seeking the Truth (edited by Seeking the Truth 2008-01-28 15:06:35)

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Topic: Protecting yourself from the effects of chemtrails

Hey everyone.  I wanted to start a thread that is very specific in regards to what we can do to protect ourselves and our families from the nastiness of the chemtrails.  There are bits and pieces of info throughout the forum about this subject, but I thought it would be a nice idea to have one solely dedicated to this idea, and to make it easier for future readers of the NR archives.  Perhaps there is one already?  Crap, I didn't check. Well, montalk, feel free to move this/merge it if there is already a thread dedicated to this.  Sorry. I should have checked first...

Anyway, from what I have gathered the whole chemtrail thing is geared to making us sicker than dogs.  So first things first:

--Keep up your immunity!!! I can't say this enough.  There have been plenty of members here who have contributed a wealth of info about how to do this, so this might seem redundant, but it's worth repeating.

--Take a really high quality LIQUID supplement that contains all the vitamins and minerals that are vital to our well being.  I prefer the liquid form because it absorbs so much faster than tablets.

--Get plenty of super green whole foods in your diet, or at the least--supplement with a capsule or powder form.  This has been mentioned often by montalk and lyra in other threads.  Chloryphyll, spirulina, blue-green algae, sea vegetables, etc.

--Check to see if you're iodine deficient.  If you are, then your body is unable to counter the negative effects of radiation (which I suspect has something to do with the siege we are under currently).  You can find out how to do this in the thread I will link to here in a second.  Follow BFdoc's link to get the instructions on how to do the test.  Here it is:  http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=6298

--Get enough selenium and other trace minerals.  Selenium deficiency is running rampant here because the acid rain leaches it out of the soil, therefore the food you eat doesn't contain enough of this mineral (among others).  Selenium is vital to good health.  Most AIDS patients, or those with compromised immune disorders, are usually deficient in this mineral.

--Get more nitrilosides in your diet.  That's a scientific term for naturally occuring vitamin B17, which has long since been taken out of our food chain, just like selenium and iodine.  This vitamin is naturally found in millet, maize, and sorghum, to name a few.  See morningsun's post here--(    )--and watch the video about cancer.  It's extremely informative.  Okay, I'll have to fill in the blank later; I can't find that post at the moment... I find locally grown sorghum at the health food store.  It is much healthier than sugar, which of course isn't healthy at all.  I use it in place of sugar when I'm cooking/baking.  It's very similar to molasses, but it is NOT the same thing, though most folks use the term interchangeably.  It is a totally different plant.

--Drink ONLY purified filtered water.  Don't buy the crap in the bottle; most studies show that it's just tap water.  Drink only water that has had chlorine and fluoride taken out of it, along with the other chemicals that find their way into our drinking water supply.  I bought a great filter that I installed under my kitchen sink and it was only $100.  It takes out everything.  It's the closest I could get to pure water without going the reverse osmosis route--which wastes a ton of water.  Here's where I got my filter.  http://www.purewateressentials.com/  I didn't buy the best one, though I should have. I was afraid it wouldn't fit under my sink since it has 3 filter cartridges. I bought the one with 2 cartridges. The 3rd one on the next model up is just another carbon filter, but would have been nice to have.  This is the one I bought:  http://www.purewateressentials.com/us-00316.html

This is really important, especially for cities that have started using cloramines in the water supply, like mine.  You can't use this water for your fish tank cuz it will kill the little guys.  And they expect us to think that it won't eventually harm us??  Right.  So filter your water!!! And don't expect a standard PUR filter to do the job.

Oh and distilled water is a nice alternative, but it's not so great for your body.  It will be fine if you're doing a detox for a couple weeks, but for the most part it's not healthy because it takes out all the minerals that we DO need, as well as the stuff we don't want.  I mentioned something about this to BF Doc in another thread and asked about adding salt to 'bring it back to life' and he said that's exactly what you'd do.  Like a 1/5th of a teaspoon of sea salt to a gallon of water. 

A couple years ago, I went so far as to buy a really nice distiller that doesn't require electricity, so that I can always have clean water no matter where I went. Then I bought 16 one-gallon glass jugs to distill the water into and store it in.  Plastic and distilled water DO NOT go well together because the acidity of the water. It leaches out the harmful stuff in the plastic and the water takes it on.  So don't drink distilled water from the grocery store that's kept in plastic jugs, unless that is you want to drink phylates... wink

----If you can afford it, I highly recommend having an electostatic type filter on your furnace.  That is, for the homeowners here.  I don't know if a landlord would be up to the task.  I have a UV light attached to my furnace and also use an Electrobreeze filter, which is plugged into an outlet.  It really cleans up the air in the house.

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Okay, the last thing I have to mention is the colloidal silver.  There is much debate about this product.  I have been doing a lot of reading on the subject, and decided to buy some for my family and friends.

Using colloidal silver in a nebulizer will help protect yourself from the effects of chemtrails and other air pollution.  But you must make sure that you're buying the correct stuff.  Many colloidal silver solutions are actually silver protein solutions.  This is NOT good to use in treating the lungs and sinuses.  It can harm you very much.  The protein used as a stabilizer can grow bacteria that would be bad for you to ingest or use in a nebulizer. 

Here's the link to the recent thread about silver.   http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=6323.   I included a link to the website that provided the most answers to my questions about colloidals.  I have yet to determine the accuracy of the information because I do not know any scientists that can confirm or deny the statements made.  I can only go on my gut feeling and it said that the information is the most factual that I have come across.  I went ahead and bought a gallon of the Mesosilver, though it was very expensive.  It was much cheaper to buy that quantity--$3.00 an ounce vs. $1.67 an ounce.  Plus, I know others who need to be using this stuff in the nebulizer.

Now, here's where I need BF doc to come in and take over.  I am guessing that all nebulizer medicine cups are the same basic size.  So what I need to know is exactly how much (in teaspoons or ounces) do you use in the little dispenser cup?  I know you mix it with hydrogen peroxide. Can you tell us what the exact measurement is for each substance, for one treatment?  I just received my silver, and found a 35% solution of peroxide at the health food store (which must be diluted for general use).  Is this the peroxide you use?  {EDIT:  To anyone interested in this, please read through this whole thread before making any decisions about doing this treatment.  This is very experimental stuff}

Whenever I have used the nebulizer before, I had a saline solution that I used and it was a premeasured dose, so I have no idea the actual amount of liquid that was going into the treatment. 

I recommend going online and finding a nebulizer.  There are so many different models.  It took me a while to find the perfect one for our family.  I ended up buying the Pari Trek S model.  It's very portable and small.  It came with a rechargeable battery, like a cordless drill would have.  There also is an adaptor to plug it into a car lighter outlet if you're traveling.  And of course, you can also just plug it into the wall with the AC adaptor when you're at home.  I believe I paid under $100 for it.  It may have been more with shipping and all.  We thankfully haven't needed to use it since I ordered it, but I will be testing it out as soon as I find out how much silver/peroxide solution to use in the cup.  I need it very badly, as my lungs are in rough condition right now. 

All right. Well, if you all could add your ideas here on how to combat the chemtrails, it would be much appreciated.  I know I left out a lot of good ideas, but I need to get offline now, and I can't think of anything else at the moment.

Anyone else have suggestions?

2 Reply by Spi (edited by Spi 2008-01-24 16:15:46)

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Re: Protecting yourself from the effects of chemtrails

Thanks for the topic, they've been releasing it wildly for the last months here where I live. Count the Chemtrails! is the game I would play silently with myself when in the school weeks of being in and out. I have been avoiding drinking bottled water, because obviously it would contain fluoride. And boiling the water does not get rid of it. So thus, soup that my mom makes technically has fluoride (?).

My main drinking fluid is juice that contains a lot of vitamin C. I wouldn't think this would be completely healthy because I guess I need a glass of water some time in a week or two...

But I wouldn't do it. Because I don't like fluoride. Also lazy on the spinach part of my diet...
Meat, I'm getting sick of it. Just ate eggs with this meat crap that my mom makes and yes, I call it crap because I don't like it. Crap, crap, crap!
Seaweed... That wouldn't be so hard to get.

... I'm sorry, but this would be more likely in the Health section of NR. Chemtrails are meant to mess your health, which these recommendations protect health. sad sad sad sad sad (yes I edited the post just to put 5 smileys in) sad (now six)

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Re: Protecting yourself from the effects of chemtrails

feedbaxlow wrote:

I still haven't seen or heard of one scintilla
of actual evidence that there anything sinister going on with the trails
It's just an urban myth as far as i'm concerned.....

Hmmm, well this isn't a thread to debate the validity of the presence of chemtrails. There have been many threads directed to that subject.  I know they're real and I see them all the time. I've seen the corkscrew ones where the pilot looks drunk, I've seen a checkerboard of them, and I've seen the gaps in them from when they run out of stuff in one tank and they have to switch to a different one.  And then I watch as they spread out and encompass the sky, usually taking just a couple hours to totally overcast the area.

Again, most people know they exist and are not good for our health.  Denying this after so much material shows otherwise, is just kind of...I don't even know the word for it.  Words....Ughh.

So yeah, anyone with information about how to prevent illness from these things that are all over the world, please feel free to post information or links. 

I was thinking that we could use this thread as a sort of amalgamation of the already existing threads about boosting immunity and whatnot, and also to add new information.

I am having a hard time finding that thread with the video about vitamin B17 deficiency. I thought Morningsun76 posted it, but it may have been Ayahuasca.  But for the life of me, I cannot find it now.  It was a video presentation about 20 minutes long made back in the 70s it looked like.  The only foods I remember for certain that have naturally occuring b17 are the ones I mentioned beforehand. Does anyone know which thread I'm talking about??


Oh, and Spi-----you're right. I probably should have put this in the health section, except I know that there are several members who don't look in the smaller sections and only check the general discussion area, so it was more for their benefit since I know that everyone checks this section.  Also, I was hoping to get some ideas for other ways of protection, not just nutritionally.  I read somewhere recently (not here) about someone who was busting up chemtrails using their mind/thoughts.  Just like reaching up into the sky and yanking out a section of trail.  It was interesting. I haven't tried it yet...

Again, if montalk wants to move this or merge it to keep the continuity, I understand. Although I doubt that he cares at this point.  It will all just be archives soon enough (for which I am HUGELY grateful...:) )

Okay, well just skimming through the health section, I came across several threads that should be listed here because they pertain to general well-being and immunity, and also some specific remedies as well.

The beautiful wild oregano plant:
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5811

and no, kitchen oregano is NOT the same thing and it doesn't have very much medicinal value. A good book covering this amazing plant is called "The Cure is in the Cupboard" which is a great resource on the different healing abilities of wild oregano.  The most important thing to remember when buying this supplement is that the product should contain high amounts of carvacol.  Cheap imitations contain mostly thymol, which is also in wild oregano, but is not as beneficial as the first substance. Marjoram has high amounts of thymol, as does thyme, but medicianlly they are not as effective.  I buy the North American brand, but have also found a cheaper alternative that guarantees the carvacol content to be 80%, which is good.


Great threads on the super green foods:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5408

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5147


Good thread on what to stock in the medicine bag:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5216


Threads about water:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5485

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4771


Here's one I just came across, asking if Zeolite was helpful in combating chemtrails. Hadn't seen it before now.  I personally have taken this supplement, but not for this purpose.  It is a heavy metal cleanser, so I don't see why it wouldn't work.  But be forewarned, it is expensive. That's why I haven't bought anymore.

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4704


Here's a thread on colloidal silver that I just found and skimmed through:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=144


Nice thread from Lyra about acid/akaline balance, which is crucial for good health:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=69


Mineral deficiencies:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=3778


More info later about herbal supplementation...

4 Reply by Barefoot Doc (edited by Barefoot Doc 2008-01-25 10:40:29)

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Re: Protecting yourself from the effects of chemtrails

Seeking the Truth wrote:

Now, here's where I need BF doc to come in and take over.  I am guessing that all nebulizer medicine cups are the same basic size.  So what I need to know is exactly how much (in teaspoons or ounces) do you use in the little dispenser cup?  I know you mix it with hydrogen peroxide. Can you tell us what the exact measurement is for each substance, for one treatment?  I just received my silver, and found a 35% solution of peroxide at the health food store (which must be diluted for general use).  Is this the peroxide you use?

Hi Seeking, i think it reasonable to assume that if CS is used directly as in a nebulizer rather than by digestion you wont need as much or it can a weaker dilution, last time i used it was for a lung infection and i used about a quarter of a teaspoon of CS for a treatment, i would lower that if i were doing on a regular basis.
Then its distilled water (bottled water should be ok) and H202 to make the whole thing about 0.5% H202. I used this ammount by CS by instinct or intelligent guess so bear that in mind. Lung tissue is delicate so from what i gleamed you should not use over a 1% solution  of H202 to be on the safe side on a regular basis.

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I also have the 35% food grade peroxide.

I drop of 35% H202 = 6 drops of H202 at 6% solution

I did mine by just doubling the ammount of water/CS to add to the drop thus halving the % solution.


adding 1 drop of water to 1 drop of 35% solution makes a 17.5% solution,adding 2 drops to this makes it 8.75%, adding 4 drops next time and so on.  I found 1 drop of 35 % H202 was enough for a treatment in a tsp or 5 ml in a nebulizer cup.
Stuff on inhaling H202
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=759239
The CS/H202 combination is a double whammy though,the peroxide may help to oxidise toxins in the lungs too.
Bear in mind Nebulizing ozonated water too and main herb for many lung problems and useful in infections and respiratory affections Lobelia.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

5 Reply by Barefoot Doc (edited by Barefoot Doc 2008-01-25 10:57:14)

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Re: Protecting yourself from the effects of chemtrails

And if you have just under $400 to spare then get one of these as the are best the for money on the market IMO, get nothing less than the SS4 that has a good output of over 2.5g per hour.

Its unique in producing O3,O4,O5 etc.
http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/aranizer.html

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

6 Reply by FreeSpirit (edited by FreeSpirit 2008-01-25 15:42:39)

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Re: Protecting yourself from the effects of chemtrails

Good Idea StT. I hope this thread grows nicely before the 22nd Feb.  Also a good idea to keep it out of the health section as this covers the general population and not just some of us health nuts.
My own very basic basics that I believe in are garlic - a couple of larger sized cloves (the raw kind - I'm still not sure about whether the potency is maintained through cooking), and of course the all arounder - cayenne pepper.

About other non-nutritional methods to combat these spider webs in the sky (StT said -'I was hoping to get some ideas for other ways of protection, not just nutritionally.  I read somewhere recently (not here) about someone who was busting up chemtrails using their mind/thoughts. ')
I read the same type of thing somewhere but can't find the link right now - anyway here is a link to something you might already have seen and deals with spiritual protection and grids connected through leylines. Towards the bottom of the page. 
http://www.spiritnexus.com/happenings/c … /index.htm

Oh yes one more very important thing - Sun Gazing / meditation. One of the very most important ingredients in activating and boosting the bodies immune system and just feeling better about life while we fight the unknown stuff that is out there. Obviously some are luckier than others in this respect. I wish I was in a place that had the type of sunsets that DanB posts all the time -unbelievable and incredible stuff - but we have the catch 22 situation of the chems blocking our glorious sustenance so it becomes harder to do all the time.

All the Best to You and Power To Us All in fighting this.

7 Reply by Seeking the Truth (edited by Seeking the Truth 2008-01-26 15:23:37)

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Re: Protecting yourself from the effects of chemtrails

Thanks for the information, Doc.  Much appreciated.  I found a conversion chart at the website you sent me to in the other thread.  It's kind of a88-backwards to use, but I finally figured it out! 

http://www.silvermedicine.org/h2o2-conversion-form.html

I went through and calculated it for a small amount and a larger amount (since I have amber bottles to store liquids in, I thought I would do a bigger batch.  You can buy empty glass bottles at mountain rose herbs.)

So to make up a batch of diluted food-grade hydrogen peroxide for a 4 oz bottle (that you can buy with a dropper) you would use 25 drops of 35% H2O2 plus 3.5 oz of distilled water to make a 0.5397% end solution.

For an 8 ounce bottle, use 50 drops of 35% H2O2 plus 7 oz. distilled water to equal 0.5398% solution.

I am still reading up on all the information about nebulizing with colloidal silver and h2o2.  I haven't figured out how much silver to use. 

Do you make a dilute solution of the h2o2 and then add that to the silver?  I'm still a little confused, and don't want to do a treatment until I'm perfectly sure of the proportions to use.  From the way the conversion chart reads, you can dilute the h2o2 in distilled water OR colloidal silver.  I was wondering about that earlier.  Can I just use the colloidal silver to dilute the peroxide down to .5% and use that or is that too much silver to use in a nebulizer treatment?  It's in a base of deionized water, and it's 20ppm.

I really appreciate your input, Doc.  I'd like to make this really simple for myself and others who might want to do natural nebulizing. 

That link to the curezone links you to the earthclinic site.  I printed out all the info I could on h2o2 usage over there.  Sounds like you have to be very careful when doing this protocol, since not all peroxide is the same and not all colloidal silver is the same.

As far as high quality silver, for nebulizing at least, I know from what I've researched that you must stay away from the silver protein solutions, which are NOT labeled as such.  If there's anything in the colloidal silver product besides water, then it's probably a silver protein.  The additives are stabilizers. 

Now when comparing the remaining two types of silver solutions, I've come to the conclusion (which may change!) that the true colloidal silvers are much more effective than the silver ion solutions made by electrolysis.  But of course, this is just from data gathering. I haven't experimented and really know nothing about colloids, so I'm having to trust my instinct when I read information.  Everyone tells you what they want you to hear.  Well, I want the truth!  Yeah. Well, I'm still digging around, trying to determine who's lying to sell products.  Where's that unbiased scientist??

From what I can gather, the stuff you make at home with a generator is mostly silver ions, which are positive charge. And true colloids are negative charge.  That's a big difference.  Especially since silver ions supposedly make hydrogen chloride {edit: I meant to say silver chloride...} in the stomach/body, which isn't all that harmful, but at the same time not all that useful.  You want the silver particles to get to the bloodstream and intestines intact and if you're using silver ion solution it doesn't absorb like silver particles.

Rrrrr...I really need to get this straight so I can nebulize soon....  Well, it doesn't matter with the silver. I already bought mine and have it sitting here. I just need to figure out how much to use and whether I can use it itself as the h2o2 diluter.  But I would like to get the solution figured out for others that may be looking into buying c. silver.  I bought a brand that is supposedly a 'true colloidal' versus 'silver ion' (which again, is what is produced by home generators).

Sorry for being so dense. You probably answered my question okay, but I am a little on brain overload.  Have been since first coming to this forum. smile  My brain hurts...:P

So do you make your own c.s., Doc? Or anyone else reading this?  Do you find it effective? Do you nebulize with it?  I would love to hear more experiences from people.

Oh and one more thing.  I don't really think I would use bottled water to dilute the 35% h2o2, since testing has shown that most of the time it's just tap water.  I can so believe that!  I would not pay money for bottled water anymore.  There's too many creeps out there trying to pass off city water for good bottled water, and I just wouldn't know which brand to trust.  Regular tap water has heavy metals in it that can contaminate the h2o2 when you're diluting it.  I wouldn't take the chance.  I'll be using distilled water since this stuff will be going into my lungs.  The only apprehension I have is whether to use the stuff I bought that's in a plastic jug, or distill some fresh water with my distiller (which takes forever).  I might be okay to use the plastic jug of distilled water, since I'm weak and don't have energy to do any distilling right now.  And as far as I can tell over at earthclinic.com, they're using store-bought distilled water, since nobody mentioned distilling their own.  And it's always bottled in plastic.

Okay, one more thing for everyone. If you're going to do this protocol, please be very careful about which hydrogen peroxide you buy.  I really recommend clicking on the links that BF doc has given us to learn all about peroxide.  The stuff you get in the drugstore is 3% h2o2 and it usually contains additives/stabilizers. This is NOT the peroxide you want to use.  But if you go to the inhalation method (which is the page doc linked us to and from there you can go to other pages of info), you'll see that these people do not recommend using 35% h2o2 for this inhalation method.  But see, what they're doing is putting in a nasal aspirator and spraying it in the back of the throat, which is really harsh.  I won't be doing that.  I have a nebulizer, and even if I didn't I would save my money up to buy one, and I think it's going to be much easier to inhale.  The reason they don't recommend using food grade 35% h2o2 is because you have to be very careful in diluting the stuff or you can cause harm.  So please, read up on this stuff and be careful diluting the 35% peroxide (which you can find online or at a health food store, at least here in the states).

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Hey Freespirit.  Thanks for the input.  You know, that silvermedicine.org site has a section about using cayenne in combination with nebulizing the silver (but not actually nebulizing the pepper).  You might check that out.  I don't think I can do it though, since I really don't enjoy really hot things in my mouth.  Here's the link to that article:  http://www.silvermedicine.org/cayenneandsilver.html

I liked the site you linked us to about the leylines and chemtrails.  I would really like to try that, but not yet.  See, I was reading what they were doing and felt that they were on the right track, but something I read didn't sit right with me.  Check out this part (the bolded sentence in particular):

Working the grids:  This planet is built on a system of grids.  Grids are filaments of light that are the intelligent force that coalesces the atomic structure of various planetary substances.  There are many types of grid systems on the planet.  One of the largest is most often discussed in spiritual circles it is the vortex system grid and the connecting lines are called leylines.  There are places on the Earth that old cultures consider sacred and it is because of these vortex energies.  The vortex grid on the planet is being redefined for the coming times and many new energies are coming into effect on the planet.  Particularly in the United States the Rocky Mountains are taking on a new higher energy and there are many new vortexes that have formed and are growing in intensity.  Every place on the planet is within a short distance to these leylines that connect all the vortex areas.  The new Rocky Mountain vortex area from Jasper in Canada down through northern Arizona and New Mexico in the United States has been endowed with a protective grid filter that has the intension of keeping chemtrail particles from falling to earth and harming the planetary species including humans. With every person who asks to tap into this grid system the system will grow stronger.  It is like a template in essence.  Lets say you need chemtrail protection around your house that sits on  5 acres, all that is required is to ask your spirit helpers or angels to tap into the rocky mountain grid and enact it around your property.  My first mistake was protecting the house but not the property.  Protect everything that is your "space".  It does not mater if you believe what you are saying when asking for the help, all that is required is that you ask for the help and give the spirits permission to act on your behalf. This can be enacted from any location on the planet through the leylines that all sooner or later connect to the Rocky Mountains through this vortex web around the planet.

Now, don't get me wrong.  The idea is a good one, and I do think that inter-meta-dimensional beings (a.k.a. spirit) are willing and able to help us out with this, but it seems to me that one shouldn't limit 'spirit' in making an intention to keep the chemtrail particles from falling to earth.  I know this sounds nit-picky, but believe you-me....Semantics DO count.  I think it's counterproductive to ask for help from other realms and then state an intention that may be harmful ultimately.  What I'm getting at is this:  If the intention is specific like that, then 'spirit' is being limited to "keeping the particles from falling to earth".  Well, personally, I can see a big problem with this.  What are all those particles going to do if they don't fall?  Well, I suspect that they would stay up there in the sky and eventually ruin our atmosphere or block out the sun's rays, which would NOT be good.   

So I guess my 2 cents would be to change the intention, since semantics DO matter, and all.  If I were to make an intention and ask for help from higher beings at the same time, I would at least make the intention very carefully.  Something along the lines of intending that "the chemtrails be disposed of by 'spirit' in such a manner so as not to pose a health hazard to any living species, the earth, or the atmosphere" or some where along those lines.  That is if I even made a specific intention. Would it not be better to ask our inter-meta-dimensional benevelont buddies if they could take care of the light work for us?  smile 

Don't know how well that would work.  Maybe we do have to make an intention to receive help.  I don't rightly know. 

Am I being overly paranoid/protective?  Should someone say something to those folks who came up with this idea?

9 Reply by FreeSpirit (edited by FreeSpirit 2008-01-26 16:39:16)

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Re: Protecting yourself from the effects of chemtrails

I don't think you're 'being overly paranoid/protective' StT. In times like these it is difficult to take anything at face value without feeling out the true intentions between the lines or what feels right to you. Maybe I only saw what I wanted to but my interpretation of that line 'a protective grid filter that has the intension of keeping chemtrail particles from falling to earth and harming the planetary species including humans' -- was that it was a grid filter as in it is not keeping the particles suspended but is filtering out the harmful stuff. In other words not keeping it from falling to earth but keeping it from falling to earth and harming the planetary species incl humans. The emphasis on the last part.

Either way it is just an example of people tackling this from a different perspective, possibly a bit new-agey for some, not necessarily to be used as template in how to do it (in my opinion) but it sparks off the idea that we could ask for assistance or protection as we would in an instance of being under attack from unseen entities or forces. I think that every person should approach this in the way they feel most comfortable and with the intention that feels right at a higher level. I like the overall idea that we should be doing something to protect ourselves spiritually as well as physically -nutritionally, as we don't yet fully understand the ultimate effects of this spraying or the origin of the technology although we have a pretty good idea. It could affect our higher connection - as in disconnection, especially if part of it is to electro-magnetize our bodies further so that we become even more like radio receivers enabling their frequencies to be lowered and manipulated at will through HAARP type installations, satellites and the physical grid of masts worldwide. This is aside from the fact that it could be used to reduce population at will through various methods. This has to have some kind of effect on our non-physical bodies as well so we have to think beyond the tin foil hat.  I personally think that we should begin with calling on our higher selves for help and realising our true power, not just random help from interested spirit beings as we could just be getting into unknown territory so your words of caution are very valid.

Oh yes, thanks for the link about cayenne pepper and colloidal silver. Interesting to see there that they say cayenne 'can be utilized to carry other substances, such as herbs and other nutrients, into the bloodstream - and sometimes within seconds.' Also  -'Extensive clinical studies conducted with cayenne pepper and Ginko Biloba demonstrate that Ginko is effective in 75% more cases than if the herb were used alone. This is significant since in order for Ginko Biloba to be effective it must be carried directly to the brain.' In my experience it also seems good at warding off colds and flu. I haven't looked into colloidal silver yet - always meaning to -but will do so now. Thanks.

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Re: Protecting yourself from the effects of chemtrails

Thanks Freespirit. I totally agree with you.  I think I'll do something like it in my own words.  I just wonder if there is any harm being done with their intention, since it's not specific.  I don't know. I don't really have the energy to expend on worrying about that at the moment. Besides, they may not want unwanted advice....I'm hoping to start feeling better soon, and then I can focus on more.  But just wanted to say thanks again. smile

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Re: Protecting yourself from the effects of chemtrails

Okay, well I don't have much time today but wanted to get on here and talk more about this hydrogen peroxide stuff.  If anyone is interested in this subject, please please do your homework before actually performing this nebulizing procedure that has been mentioned.  I urge you to go to this website, http://www.silvermedicine.org/h2o2.html, and read the whole page there.  I want to copy/paste a section here on nebulizing with h2o2, since it is really in its infancy.  I know there are people who nebulize with diluted peroxide (as noted on earthclinic.com), but apparently this can be dangerous if you're a smoker, which I am.  I personally don't think I'll be using h2o2 in the nebulizer, though I will be using the silver.

Used in Inhalation Therapy

ALL CAUTION must be used when considering using H2O2 combined with colloidal silver ( and H2O2 in general ) delivered directly into the lungs. The danger lies in the commonly held belief that few adverse effects are possible. This conclusion has been drawn based on the fact that many people use dilutions as high as 3% hydrogen peroxide with no ill effects.

However, certain conditions in the lungs can cause extremely harmful and potentially lethal reactions. Furthermore, less noticeable reactions are possible that have long term implications on health.

Smokers and individuals who have used prescription and nonprescription drugs delivered into the lungs are well advised to seriously reconsider H2O2 inhalation therapy. Upon entering the lungs, the oxidation reaction dislodges and delivers some substances directly into the bloodstream. In the case of smokers, this results in a possible extreme nicotine overdose that can cause heart failure.

It is unknown if this reaction occurs in the same manner with other contaminants such as harmful dusts and pollutants normally not adsorbed through the lungs into the bloodstream. However, it is evident that cell permeability is altered, and therefore all caution must be employed as a matter of life and death.

Furthermore, certain anaerobic bacterial conditions in the lungs can also spark an intensified H2O2 reaction causing possible extreme damage to lung tissues themselves. Again, the danger is that these conditions ( not currently qualified ) are not prevalent, and it is easy for one to be lulled into false sense of safety, thereby putting others at uniformed risk.

So yeah. Please do read up on this before you try it.  I am going to see if I can get the peroxide IV therapy for my emphysema. 

Gotta go now, but I'll try to post more in the next couple days.