Topic: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

In Plato's symbolic progression of numbers, ONE represented the primal cause of creation; TWO, its division into the sacred duality structuring the universe (light / dark, hot / cold, hard / soft); THREE, the unity of the primal cause with the sacred duality resulting in God / Goddess, the Creator / Creatoress; FOUR, the balanceHe / she achieves through the harmonization of opposites manifested in the sacred androgyne (eros, the Christ child); and FIVE, the masculine principle of dynamic action. SIX, according to Plato, stood for the eternal feminine, the nurturing principle of receptivity. To the Pythagoreneans who proceeded him and the Cabalists, who came afte, six was sacred to the goddess of love and femimine abundance. SEVEN, signifies the completion of cycles, as found in the seven colours of the rainbow, the seven major chakras, the seven days of the week, worldwide tales of the seventh son of the seventh son. EIGHT is associated with sacrifice and the dissolution of physical forms in life's fundamental process to renew itself. The symbol of the eight-legged spider, which, in its ceaseless alternation of web-weaving and killing, conntinously oscillates between life and death. NINE, because it is the triple synthesis of three - the God number - stands for immortality, the ultimate conquest of death, and the culmination of the eight previous numerical symbols, which is the attainment of dvinity. TEN, , for example, is twice five - representing the male principle - and therefore represents kingship or domination of the material world ( the Ten Commandments).


Taken from PLATO'S KRITIAS


My question is - have you a significant number? A number that just keeps repeating itself with many underlining meanings?

Over a period of three months, myself and my elder Sister, were both visited by ETs, seperatly, at the same time / number precisely. We were unaware of this synchronicity until my Mother shared it with me. My Sister and me both shared our encounters with each other at the same time!

All the best - Joseph

"IF YOU FALL DOWN EIGHT TIMES THEN GET UP NINE TIMES"

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

Well, I sometimes wake up at 1:11am, 2:22, and the latest 12:34.  Not a normal awakening, but very sudden and startling.  Can usually go back to sleep, but may wake up once or twice to seemingly odd times (3:33, 5:55).  Sometimes my sisters experience the same thing on the same night as well.

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

3 (edited by zonabi 2004-09-21 10:01:45)

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

i always catch the clock when it says these special digits, such as 1:11 or 2:22, and yes sometimes 12:34

i usually make a wish when this happens.

never had to do with any kind of abduction, though- sorry.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

4 (edited by JOSEPH 2004-09-21 14:27:07)

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

I forgot to mention the time / number for these experiences. The number for me was 4.42 AM.

All the best Joseph

"IF YOU FALL DOWN EIGHT TIMES THEN GET UP NINE TIMES"

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

Personally, I think 23 has something to do with the aliens.  This comes through in a variety of ways.  One auther, Robert Anton Wilson, seems to regard 23 as something to do with Sirius.  July 23 was the beginning of the new year for the Egyptians, who worshipped Isis and Osiris, and the dog star was the symbol for those two gods.  The dark star, Sirius B, represents Osiris, and occultist say that the rite for Osiris includes the secret that Osiris is a dark god, or a black god.  I forget which.  It's called the dark rite, I think.  The tarot of the star has an ancient symbol of Isis, with the star above the archetypical depiction of this feminine principle.  Wilson is big-time into synchronicity, and noticed the 23 and other Egyptian related happenings during his hypothesis that he was getting communications from Sirius.

From my own experience, 23 seems to crop up in relation to aliens, particularly the greys.  It's like an unconscious thing, mostly picked up by creative peoples.  Though hardly an authority, South Park in particular picks up this alien thingy.  In one episode, when the big antenna was coming out of Cartman's ass.  Anyway, the hangar where they finally uncovered the antenna was hangar 23.  Also, the scientist came to his conclusions through a series of connections.  Silly connections, of course, and maybe a joke on synchronicity or something, but it shows this connection with these little events meaning something.  There are some other things in other areas, but I can't remember any of them, which might mean there isn't much to this theory.

Also, when I was younger, I was into the swords and sorcery fantasy sort of things, and made up stories all the time.  Well, this one being I had made up in my stories as this god-like creature, strictly neutral in the affairs of good and evil, that I imagined my hero had some struggles against.  Before I had learned of greys or knew anything about them, I had imagined this being as a tall version of a grey.  It had the same white-like skin and big black eyes, the difference being that my version had long black claws, tall black horns, and a pair of bat-like wings.  Now, remember, that this was before I knew about aliens, and I certainly don't remember basing it on any idea of an alien.  I can almost guarantee that.  If anything, it was subconscious.  Anyway, the funny thing is, and this didn't strike me until later, way later, that the being's name, for reasons unknown, was Winchestor.  I didn't make the connection until recently, that W is the 23rd letter of the alphabet.  Now, that may not be enough, but placing it all together, and going through my own 23 synchronicities (before I knew of synchronicities and number connections, I had been seing 311 a lot.  That was why I started looking into numbers popping up in the first place and found out about the 23.), I'm pretty sure that if there is something to coincidences, this all fits together.

"T e l o c h   Of one so-called: T E L O CH = 203    Allocating Tzaddi (final) to T = 1013 or 10 + 13 = 23

32 is the number of total manifestion.  It is Ichid - ego/self - the prism through which is projected phenomenal manifestation on the obverse of the Tree.  32 is of the Tree of Life (obverse / manifestation / being / phenomena).  23 is the reverse of 32.  Hence, 23 is the number emblematic of the other or reverse side of the Tree.  23 is the essence of the Tree of Death (reverse / non-manifestaion / non-being / noumena).  23 'manifests' by dividing itself (into being): 2  · 3 = .666 (the Beast).  As 666 is to 32, so 23 is to the reverse of 666 that is 999. – The Beast 'made flesh' is a reflection or ingress of 23 / 999 (noumena) into phenomena as 32 / 666.

On another level, 23 signals the chaotic state between two stable states.  As such, it fits into the category of 'inbetweenness'.  It is therefore one of those things which is Not.  23 is one from the demonic hosts of Non-being about to invade Being.  The 93 Current will split apart the unconsciously created world we inhabit.  23 is not identical with 93, but an emanation from it.  203, as the extension of 23, reveals its full nature.  0 as the dis-illusion within 203 is the ingress from, and the gateway to, the Nightside.  There will be more on these matters, and its implications."

What I think is that this whole alien thing is something sinister, or against what we have the potential for.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

I just came across a book called 11 : 11: Inside the Doorway while browsing Amazon, and figured some people here might be interested.   I've not had these sorts of number sightings but I know others have.  Perhaps this book has some insights... I noticed there are a couple of transparently nonsensical negative reviews of the book as well.

Another called The Search For 11:11.

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

Haven wrote:

Personally, I think 23 has something to do with the aliens.  This comes through in a variety of ways.  One auther, Robert Anton Wilson, seems to regard 23 as something to do with Sirius.

I try not to give too much attention to numerology. I do not understand it. Wether certain numbers are "good" or "bad", I dunno. All the data feels conflicting and confusing.
I see numbers as possibly "energy rays", like everything else really, therefore neither good nor bad, just different from one another in terms of quality (=color, if you prefer) and strength (=intensity, if you prefer).
After reading R.A. Wilson theory I experimented a little bit and it seemed that 23s could be gateways from one dimension to the other. It seemed that "tuning" into that number, by keeping it in mind for example, made inter-dimensional journeys (shamanic journeys or moving through realities if you prefer) rather easy. First I decided on a goal (like a a state of mind, a revelation on an issue, finding something for example) and then focused on "getting there" while looking for doorways, still keeping the 23 in mind. 23s seem to reveal the doorways. I experienced some interesting synchronicities, (besides the 23s in print, clocks, etc.) and some "trans-dimensional" perceptions and experiences relating to the goals I had set.

8 (edited by montalk 2005-01-29 20:12:46)

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

Athm wrote:

It seemed that "tuning" into that number, by keeping it in mind for example, made inter-dimensional journeys (shamanic journeys or moving through realities if you prefer) rather easy.

That's an interesting idea, and 23 being a prime number may suggest that other prime numbers are also gateways to "mystical dwellings." Regarding 11:11, 11 is a prime number. here is a list of the first 1000 primes.

[added: Whoa, and I just posted this at 11:11, haha.]

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

9 (edited by Haven 2005-01-30 03:56:16)

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

I'm beginning to wonder if prime numbers aren't some sort of map/equation coming out from a spiral.  Each prime number resonates and creates... something.  A star?  If 23 were Sirius, where is the 1?

If you match the resonance of a prime number, then that links to the original resonance.

Could it be that particular sub-resonances create planets revolving around a prime number resonant star?

Is gravity a resonance?  Is that why you hear that anti-gravity is produced by "sound"?

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

"Sirius is about 23 times as bright as our sun."

Yeah, it would be.  Go figure.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

montalk wrote:
Athm wrote:

It seemed that "tuning" into that number, by keeping it in mind for example, made inter-dimensional journeys (shamanic journeys or moving through realities if you prefer) rather easy.

That's an interesting idea, and 23 being a prime number may suggest that other prime numbers are also gateways to "mystical dwellings."

Ok, Mr. M, all the numbers in the list end in 1,3,7 or 9, they are beneficial according to numerology and my own experience (or ESPerience, rather, Ah!). I sometimes use numbers to design little magical formulaes, in this home-made system, 1 is for manifestation, 3 for equlibrium (magical or psychic especially), see law of 3, which I do not have time to explain  here, 7 for divine and 9 for nice and friendly stuff in a pre-manifestation state or pre-perfection. Anyway, I also believe odd numbers to be beneficial, they are not fixed, still in a state of evolution, hence "good" and even numbers "bad", only in the sense of fixity or equilibrium, which is not really "bad" as such, just fixed...According to basic numerology 2 is strife (unless it is resolved in 1 or 3), 4 is all to do with strong "real-material" stuff, 6 is balance of two 3s, hence fixity within a spirtual/divine balanced state (take the  star of David and meditate on it for a few minutes, you'll see what I mean), 8 is kind of a weird one, multidimensional but also fixed to a certain extent (A Moebius loop, standing up, Ah!) and 10 is the achieved goal. Well what I meant through that is that odd numbers are not static and therefore can be some sort of "active" doorway whereas even numbers are more like "passive" doorways, the door frame if you like. U still need the key, I know I am a bit bright today but that's coz I've just had some raisins and some cashew nuts...Anyaway, that all kind of make sense, doesn't it, hey?

12 (edited by Solar_Sphinx 2005-03-12 01:47:42)

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

Numerology is a very complicated and interesting tool to use, and once you've started to notice the numbers around you, you usually will find very strange things. it's like communicating with ...something, if you know how to interpret the numbers. Prime numbers are important and indeed powerful numbers; of course, the first seven "horns" (primes) squared becomes 666. 

the number 23, well, there are some sites devoted to the research of the 23, which I don't consider a number of evil as much as of chaos, or something beyond, transcendent. Of course the primes starts with 2, 3 and all primes up to and including 23 becomes 100, the number of completion, perfection and transcendence beyond eternal cycles.
It's not at all impossible that the 23 has something to do with aliens; probably they are connected to the 666 as well...

I don't really follow with 23 representing the 999 instead of 666, though. 
Interestingly, in trad. pythagorean  numerology "life" becomes 23, as does "logos" and "death" = 20. But there are other systems of course, equally valid.
32 is a sacred number in many religions, connected to the Buddha and more, like the 32 (major) marks of a chakravartin, (someone who turns the wheel of dharma) Interesting that "Christ" as well as "Sophia" = 32...

"...Manjushri said: 'I think that when you can[not] speak of any event, when you neither indicate nor know anything, [and] pass beyond questions and answers, this is to enter gate of oneness. Sir, now please tell us how a bodhisattva enters the gate of oneness.'
And Vimalakirti kept silent, and did not say a word..."

13 (edited by Solar_Sphinx 2005-03-12 01:50:23)

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

Interestingly, about two hours after the post above, I read Eliade's "The Two and the One", which begin's with a man having a dream when he's 32 years old about Christ, representing him being spiritually reborn:)

"...Manjushri said: 'I think that when you can[not] speak of any event, when you neither indicate nor know anything, [and] pass beyond questions and answers, this is to enter gate of oneness. Sir, now please tell us how a bodhisattva enters the gate of oneness.'
And Vimalakirti kept silent, and did not say a word..."

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

Haven...

I've heard--I don't know where to verify this, though--that July 23rd has been several times the day of the year with the most UFO sightings.

Other 23 corollaries...

I went through a long period of always looking at the clock at 12:23pm.

I was born at 1:23pm in the afternoon.

There are 23 pairs of human chromosomes, making a total of 46.

The Earth's axis, I think, is 2.3 degrees.

(And lastly, 69 is 23 times 3... smile He, he).

-Dreamosis

You can't change a tiger's stripes,
but you can avoid its teeth.

Re: NUMBERS & SYNCHRONICITY IN THE ABDUCTION EXPERIENCE

Some links regarding 23:
http://www.free.de/homes/joern/23.html

http://yiri.maniac.com/23.html

http://afgen.com/numbr23b.html

"...Manjushri said: 'I think that when you can[not] speak of any event, when you neither indicate nor know anything, [and] pass beyond questions and answers, this is to enter gate of oneness. Sir, now please tell us how a bodhisattva enters the gate of oneness.'
And Vimalakirti kept silent, and did not say a word..."