Topic: what are they trying to tell us?

...One of the least discussed topics here- crop circles. So many people have said, and wrote, that there must be a significant message.

And there may be.

But why would they bother, knowing their 
"messages" will be ignored or ridiculed as being "manmade hoaxes" by 80%
of the world, and not understood by the remainder.
Unless of course, their aim is to seem infinitely enigmatic to us. The "language barrier" trick, we can never understand them, so they must be superior...

Here is the page that inspired this thread-
www.alienseekernews.com/writers/patrick-cooke/images/crop-circles.jpg

The ones that jump out at me are the three with star/pentagram design, the two 'all seeing eyes' and the star of david/hexagram. Those would immediately be viewed by some as confirmation of their cult or occult beliefs.

But, could this be just some ET graffiti, marking their territory, or perpetuating age-old myths?

Just..... why?

  J

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Re: what are they trying to tell us?

I like to watch the History Channel occasionally even though much of their stuff is simply stuff.  Only the surface layer skimmed off the top of a much deeper meaning, or surface chaff from what is not accurate to begin with.  I was watching with a limited attention, some show on UFO's and recently disclosed Russian archives on the matter.  I let one memory stick with me about some mention made of an actual live alien encounter they had, and how the alien I think, was able to communicate telepathically to them.  The main point that he was trying to get to us, to grasp, is that we need to change the way we think.  But I didn't hear any further mention on it than that. 

Telling me to change the way I think without giving further insights or direction.  Well shoot, if I am simply expected to grope around trying to change the way I think, I guess I would go for the primevel, archaic, ancient esoteric learnings.  We assume that, just as in the world of technology where today's invention is better and more sophisticated than yesterday's, so too must it be with societies; that is, if we don't know about an idea, then certainly previous societies weren't aware of the idea either.

I've seen enough to realize it is very possible that we have lost a great deal of knowledge that we once possessed.  I keep coming back to this phrase, 'living within the chart,' and I only have a vague idea of what it means.  I think it has something to do with living each moment more in tune with the intents and aspects of the unceasing wave of creation.  I think it is engrained to want things to remain static, especially if it is a pleasant existence, or something that a nation has agreed to.  Something bad usually happens to a nation of people who simply found a way and cease striving for some even better way to exist.  With half the global population it is an individual by individual process, the other half can simply use the Hundreth Monkey feature.  hmm

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Re: what are they trying to tell us?

ape-x wrote:

why would they bother, knowing their "messages" will be ignored or ridiculed as being "manmade hoaxes" by 80% of the world, and not understood by the remainder.

The reason is because the imprints in the crops serve a much deeper purpose of frequency regulation and stabilization of the fields of the planet so as to assist in preventing cataclysmic changes such as the shifting of poles or otherwise earth changes. This active roll and participation by the benevolents really exists outside of a level most people are willing to understand. The 'triggering' or awakening process brought apon many who allow themselves to realize the messages would seem a mere side-effect of this process. A bonus if you will.

I am as is Void.

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Re: what are they trying to tell us?

There are those that are studying them and learning
but i agree, there should be more discussion and analysis of the glyphs in the crop circles.
I've been finding some as i go! it is fascinating
They are clearly meant to be "sacred" and speak on a very direct level somehow
and there are specific messages as well.
those from mathematics and the language of geometry should be able to reveal somethings in time.
But just knowing they are there from time to time is reassuring to me.
We may not quite understand but may go to a deeper layer that "gets it"
before the conscious mind can draw the comparisons to what we know and see the meanings.

To change the way that we think is:
to become active in ourselves and in community on earth and in the universe.
We are not islands or alone personally, nationally, globally or in the galaxy.
We are not separate and our fate will not be decided by military strength or weapons... but by discernment.
We must think globally and universally for "our" meaning to translate correctly.
Any coherent elements of our culture will take effect as they prove to be realistic in a world where everything we do has consequence... ultimately we each decide our own fate. Yet ironically, become highly integrated within the whole structure of the universe.
It is time some of us took possession of "our" star-born right and privilege as members of the galactic communities.
I am sure if you look into the glyphs you will see them as an attempts to communicate:
there are realities to learn and adapt to, and traps/tricks to avoid and how.

If you saw a little kid in a dangerous situation wouldn't you help him/her out?
It's normal to look out for brothers.
Here's a site that's worth studying.

http://www.starnationgallery.com/

There has been a significant pattern appearing with the Star Glyphs since the 1990's. Periodically through out our history, the Star Nation people may have been sending these glyphs, awaiting for an appropriate response. In this well known Wood cut from 1678 shows the possibility of attempts some 400 years ago. The mentality of the people had not evolved enough for these glyphs to begin their procession, nor had the technology. Before the 1990’s these formations began with only a few appearing each year since the 60’s. In the 80’s, there was an apex with 21 formations recorded in England in 1987.
Very few people were aware of them at that time and formations may have been overlooked for a record of it’s existence. It was only the farmers and a few interested people trying to understand what was happening, that were involved. The Star Glyphs had not yet caught on and attracted world attention, but soon those doors would open. What is significant is the dramatic jump that was made in 1990, with nearly 80 formations appearing.  These formations began an incline in quantity which apexes in 1999 with 149 formations appearing in England, that year alone. The year 2000 started a decline with 124 formations and then 90 in 2001. The decline persisted. In 2003 there were 73. The decline is a gentle one and may even incline with some years. It is my belief that this symbolic transmission will dwindle to its minimum at the year 2012. This is a significant date. It is the end and beginning of the Mayan calendar. The Mayan calendar is an important one, while it recognizes the circle of a day and year, it does so in alignment with the sun, moon, and our universe. It is a spiritually motivated calendar.

It is my belief these transmissions became recognized by people of earth in 1990. Enough people had gathered in realization there was something significant here with the glyphs. It was a collective energy of people that had evolved to a necessary point. Also, technology had reached a point that allowed these glyphs to be appropriately recorded. We had the ability then to see these glyphs from the air and cameras had become common place. It is only since the the 21st century that we have had these abilities. The culmination of these elements opened the door.
Once the Star Nation saw these aspects in place, they initiated their symbolic transmissions to the Planet Earth.
It built in energy and quantity until 1999. It apexes in the final year of the Gregorian calendar, our millenniums end This is also important. Not only was it the symbolic end of the millennium but also the end of the Age of Pisces. We began our entrance into the Age of Aquarius. A fitting time in the universal scheme of things for the Star Glyphs apex. These are all elements the people of Planet Earth would recognize. The above chart shows the entrance and apex year by year and has a projection of the end of the transmissions of these star glyphs. It is my belief however they will not end at that point. I believe they will maintain contact and continue to send formations for many years to come. I am estimating them continuing at least 30 years or so, with a quantity of approximatly 1 to 5 a year. It will more than likely end in a similar manner as it began prior to the 1990’s. There were only a few each year beginning in approximately the 60”s. These will be for the benefit or those who have been intimately involved with these glyphs and an expression of a continued contact. It is my belief these beings work on very sensitive levels of understanding. They recognize the subtleties of the impact they have on people who are involved.
There are other aspects of the Star Nations transmissions that will be in my talks as the year progresses. I will be discussing the importance of two different types of formations that appear. Please have a look at my calendar page.
(From above site)
others of interest:
http://www.silentcircle.co.uk/website/xxpage/links.htm
http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/studygroup/index.php

Re: what are they trying to tell us?

Several years ago I meditated on a crop circle and then laid down for a nap. Has anyone done this? Call it auto-suggestion but I had a vivid dream right away of a flying saucer with red/blue/white lights on the bottom landing at an airport.

If crop circles are meant to communicate a message, it does seem like they are rather poor for doing this since each circle in itself doesn't convey much information because they are so simple, archetypal and symmetric. Actually it's the ones that DO have lots of information (like that ASCII code in the "we oppose deception" alien-disk crop formation) that make me suspicious because that looks more like blackops hoaxes than the more beautiful swirly and symmetrical designs that seem to address us on levels deeper than the surface intellectual mind.

Maybe crop circles are time markers, psychic signposts (psionic witnesses) imprinted at particular places and times to allow easy navigating by time travelers using consciousness travel techniques. Maybe like the C's suggested they are archetypes embedding spiritual knowledge deep within for later retrieval after we shift to a new realm of existence. Maybe they are memory triggers to help us access what we already know at some level, or mere clues to trigger us into making our own discoveries by pondering them.

I don't think they are made by aliens in mechanical ships with beams, at least not the more impressive ones. Eyewitnesses more often report balls of light zipping about, which sounds hyperdimensional. If I had to guess, would say that they are laid down by an intelligence beyond your typical class of physical or semi-physical aliens. But the big question is, can they be read? Is there a language that lets you decipher any "genuine" crop circle? The crop circles have evolved over time... did the language evolve also, or are the new ones just more creative uses of the same old language? I don't know.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Antaeus

The main point that he was trying to get to us, to grasp, is that we need to change the way we think.

I've seen enough to realize it is very possible that we have lost a great deal of knowledge that we once possessed.

Xenopope

The reason is because the imprints in the crops serve a much deeper purpose.......

This active roll and participation by the benevolents really exists outside of a level most people are willing to understand.

[highlight]The 'triggering' or awakening process brought apon many who allow themselves to realize the messages would seem a mere side-effect of this process.[/highlight]

Feedbaxlow

They are clearly meant to be "sacred" and speak on a very direct level somehow
and there are specific messages as well.

We may not quite understand but may go to a deeper layer that "gets it" before the conscious mind can draw the comparisons to what we know and see the meanings.

MOnTalk

.......the more beautiful swirly and symmetrical designs that seem to address us on levels deeper than the surface intellectual mind.

Maybe crop circles are time markers, psychic signposts (psionic witnesses) imprinted at particular places and times to allow easy navigating by time travelers using consciousness travel techniques.

.......archetypes embedding spiritual knowledge deep within for later retrieval after we shift to a new realm of existence. [highlight]Maybe they are memory triggers to help us access what we already know at some level, or mere clues to trigger us into making our own discoveries by pondering them.[/highlight]

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Re: what are they trying to tell us?

you may know of this site - but if not check it out !  smile

http://www.the-arcturians.com/eng/index.htm

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The frequency for 2008 with Self-reflection as theme . . .   
 
Whether you are conscious or subconscious, you can no longer hide: mankind is in transformation and keeping up with the pace of change. The new flow that has been started is the frequency of Self-reflection. We can create anything we want and the process of creation is confirmed faster than ever. However, do we ask ourselves critically what it is we really want? Do we dare to take a closer look at what our fears are? Our insecurities and the ways we think about ourselves? How often are we still criticising others, or someone else’s work or actions. How often are we still distracted by focusing on our environment or even the world?

If we don’t go to our true blueprint, the side-effects of our process of growing awareness will become even more intense. Side-effects such as tiredness, depression and vague physical complaints will force us to return to our essence.

To our own program, so that it can be recognised, after which we can create and co-create from pure intention. Thát is where we are guided to: the liberation of our soul’s assignment, learning to enjoy fully, without any boundaries. But, before we can do this, we’ll need to work on ourselves a bit more. How can we create purely if we don’t know who we really are, why we are the way we are, why we act the way we act?

Gain insight into your personal journey. Know what you want, how you want it and where your heart is taking you. Observe yourself, watch the way you speak, the way you think, the way you feel. Watch yourself, be conscious of all your actions and where these are coming from. Stay connected, don’t let anything distract you. Feel passion and stay with this passion, your process of creation. Often we are distracted by our environment.

  Have faith, hold on to what you feel and what you think. Stay critical towards yourself, so that you will receive an immediate signal when you deviate from your true journey. With every new step you take you will get an itch, a gut feeling. If this is not the case, then take a closer look at why you are taking this step in the first place. What are your motivations for this new step? Try to constantly check your own feelings. Do not follow blindly other people’s emotions, or those of spiritual leaders. Times are changing, many methods and opinions are dated and even delay your development. Follow your heart; what resonates with you, what is working for you? Everyone chooses their own solutions, perhaps even for survival in this evolution process. Don’t judge others, whatever they choose. By focusing negatively on others, you will create energetic connections, and whatever you criticise will influence you too. Focus and connect to what inspires you, what touches you. Focus on positive matters.

Know that there is a lot of help, in your own environment and beyond, even in other dimensions. However, nobody can help you unless you’re very clear. Therefore, be honest, be clear, dare to be vulnerable. When we all have the courage to be more vulnerable, then the right things can be handed to us. Take your time, don’t feel pressured by anything or anyone. Take as much time as you need, but do realise that everything is a choice. You can choose to figure out and solve something tomorrow, or next week, or next month. The choice is yours. Also know that no choice can ever be wrong, it can only shorten or lengthen your process. At any time of the day, be critical: what do I feel, what do I want, what do I see, what do I experience, and adjust this. Follow your emotions, your intuition and you will experience that our transformation to the new frequencies of 2012 is in fact a tremendous challenge.

Re: what are they trying to tell us?

...Late getting back to this thread- thanks all.

Montalk I do remember seeing footage of a green orb "cutting" a pattern, think it must have been Sightings, or one of those shows back in the late 90s. Hard for the skeps to refute that, without crying 'fake video'.

I would think a small percentage of these formations are blackops, maybe more. It would be nice if each one came with a caption, in English. But I don't suppose that'll happen real soon.

Some of them are just so complex, and I think that is 'them' just trying to prove that they were not made by some pranksters with sticks and rope. Even those incredibly detailed formations will be brushed off by many, still.
The ones who can't come to grips with anything paranormal.

This does feel like one of those "wait long enough and you'll see".

So, I guess we'll wait and see.....

  J

Happy to have been a part