Alex Jones: Why is anyone still listening? (Page 4 of 5)

Interesting thread title, I've nurtured a similar attitude towards the Jones paradigm for some time.

Just last Friday I heared one of his callers point out the astrological impressions of Pluto being in conjunction with galactic center and also mention the photon belt. Jones wasted no time in completely discrediting the notion of the existence of a photon belt, citing the difference between astronomy and astrology. "There IS no PHOTON BELT.", he bellowed. It just goes to show exactly what level he is actually operating on.

This also made me realize exactly _why_ it is that Jones himself should rightly be avoided by those who seek an earnest path to truth.

Essentially, Jones acts as the "leader" of all those genuine 'truth seekers', who, given the right tools, might use such conspiracy information as their own personal "stepping stone" in learning, researching, and evolving into higher knowledge about their reality. Unfortunately, Jones pointedly avoids or outrightly discredits higher spiritual information, denying these people the very tools they need to move out of the negative 'conspiracy' orientation. Jones and his followers constitute a "pool" of "conspiracy nirvana" wherin many are subtely discouraged to open themselves to ideas originating from 'the next level'.

Hmmm...

Whether or not he is leading people astray or not... for the sane people he is still a source of information that can be analyzed in an objective manner. The way I see it, people are really dumb sheep and they will go from guru to guru having people make decisions for them.

The game we are in so complex. Perhaps at the moment we make look at Alex Jones' work and frown upon it for being so negative, but perhaps in the long run this will play to the advantage of the light side.

Imagine that their is a light player and a dark player in this giant chess game we are in. The light sides pieces all think for themselves and work together in unison. The dark sides pieces all hate each others guts and want f*ck each other over. The Pawn hates the Rook, the Rook hates the Queen, The Bishops hate the Horsemen and so on... The Dark side is full of control freaks. As chaos unfolds, (as we zoom into a really complicated part of the fractal we are in) the dark size will simply have too much to keep track of to survive and make good decisions. The dark side will not be manifesting in abundance, and since the dark side hates each other, they will fight each other at all costs for what resources are left. The light side, being that they require little and want nothing, will be content. They do not wish to control others, and all their actions will work towards the prevalence of peace. Both consciously and unconsciously light workers decisions and actions will squeeze the dark side like a boa constrictor. Believe it or not, the dark size will actually welcome our help, for it will be mutual benefit. They will focus all their fighting amongst themselves, we will be repelled from this by our knowledge (knowledge protects) and our frequency. We will be aligning realities in which their dark realities cannot exist. Improbable occurrences will be the second by second norm. God will be protecting us and guiding us. This protection will grow greater and greater. If you are not protected it will be because you are not in the proper place you need to be. If you are vibrating higher than your surroundings, but choose to stay in those surroundings, God (both the dark and light forces combined) will create unpleasant experiences for you to help push you out of your groove and into something new.

Alex Jones represents a dark paradigm that is decaying. Before it decays completely it may attract all the lost souls that are ready to exit this reality. This will be good. There are many souls on this planet that are anchoring the vibration of this planet in a negative way. We (sadly) need these individuals to die and on a higher level they want to do die (the lighter environment is not suited to their spiritual needs.)

SO basically... Here we are... Trying to find our purpose in life, preparing for the future in a mild-ish way, waiting for people to die that need to die. Waiting for people to rise up and join our forces in an independent fashion. We will reach out for those that need our help, but we sure as hell won't tie ropes around ourselves, jump into hell to try and save some lost souls. Reach out for the ones that are closest. Do not reach out for the ones that are 20 feet away with your 2-3 ft arm.

Many geological areas naturally vibrate higher than other areas. I think the area I am in vibrates very low. I sick and tired of it... I am ready to get out of California... Find a light vibrating environment. Get a nice job. Meet some independently thinking friends. Enjoy life. Read. Learn, and wait for the world to catch up.

Oh boy, no, sorry, waiting for people to die?
I have no desire to depend on the death of individuals.
I have no intent for death to be a benefit.
I will not spend one moment, if possible, thinking about my or anyone elses death but rather how to enjoy life.
I don't think this is a good thing for any individual to do.
Were ever you are, no matter how shitty, now would be a good time to direct your thoughts towards being happy or of higher sober thoughts other than death.
I know it's a reality but do we really need to focus on it, I have focused on it enough, already, here.
In the harsher enviroment, bigger, harder lessons are learnt.
Just some advise, you might want to throw it out with the corpses.(ugh)
I like to conciously tell myself "I am going to be happy, right now, fook everything else, I am going to be happy."
It works most times.

I cannot say AJ is a fraud or for real.
What are we doing here, ...here?(Expending valuable energy focusing on the negative?)
On an individual journey?
Many people who are joining up or subscribing to the idea of the NWO,
9/11 etc are allowing themselves to become depressed.
This does not mean that this is part of some AJ hidden agenda.
This does not mean that he is for real.
Perhaps it  means that they were  not ready for partial truth.
Perhaps it means they are in the process of learning how to deal with it and direct thoughts and energy towards more meaniful things, like being happy, ever notice how you being happy leads to others being so too?
I think an individual needs to learn to focus on themselves first, on being happy, listening to self before they can contemplate "saving" /preaching to others.
Hell, in this lifetime I may not even get close to "saving" myself and I am in no fit state to throw stones or point fingers.
I tire of my own thoughts and have felt "down" too, many times, about the whole thing but getting better.
There are other challenges besides becoming all knowing or all loving that must first be overcome.

I think awareness is a very big part of what we are trying to achieve.
We know that having great or high awareness is the path to a constant state of joy because we live in the now, not allowing past or future to interfere with our flow.
What we all are doing is living each day, taking in or absorbing information, constantly being bombarded with everyday mundane senses and information.
Inbetween juggling real life we have to try to sort the wheat from the chaff.
Some of us are vunerable.
We're not very good at that, so we watch and we feel and sometimes the invisible or unknown will give you the answers you seek.
Just a feeling, sometimes you believe you just  know but you cannot convince others of truth or declare what is true because of a feeling you have.
These convictions because of a feeling are best kept to yourself as they are not defendable.
A person has to be very carefull not to preach  to anyone that what they are telling them is truth while remembering how easily fooled we have been.

InAllhonesty made some valid points as acknowledged by most but has dealt with the critic in a less than adult fashion.
I wish him well on His journey of discovery, my door is always open.

But just also like in the movie many had come before NEO and failed, there was probably other like Morpheus and they too failed, Just because someone (RonPaul) works within the system doesn't mean he likes or is controlled by the system. As fruitless as it may seem he is trying to change the system.

Suspecting somebody works for the establishment vs claiming they do especially without proof or some very profound reasons seems a bit extreme and throwing a hit to the arm chair quartrback doesn't seem out of line. Just because some is a vessel for stirring some doesn't make them perfect so becareful for labelling a personal flaw for working for the PTB.

I get the sense that A LOT of people have been stirred awake by him and his ilk....enough I dare to say that I doubt the establishment would keep him in place if they were controlling him.(incidently I have not read or heard any of his stuff except as posted here-so I cannot comment on the content) Can this be held onto by some as fear mongering - absolutely, but isn't that the path of resistence?

I also get the sense that some proof of his working with the establishment would be nice more than just distance observations.

I could say Barefoot Doc is a hot-headed wind bag that presents some good info at times but it's not his knowledge! He quickly researches natural medicine or whatever topic he responds to and posts that information as his own so he can belong not because he's "awake." (I personally don't think this, I enjoy your posts I'm using it as an example)

Do I have any more or less veracity than what InAllHonesty posted about AJ and Ron Paul? I can make what ever claims I want about anybody and I should not be refused or challenged if that is the case. All it is, is opinion without proof or fact...why even bother posting that its pointless.

Funny thing is InAllHonesty argued with Lyra who didn't disagree with what he posted, just his uneducated, unfound pressumption about ms76. He took that as an attack against him.

So was ms76 being emotional when he tried to get InAllHonesty to be more wise in his mudd slinging or was InAllHonesty being caught up in emotion when he took offense and fired back at everybody?

Disclaimer: I can't vote so I could care less about politicians.
I don't get caught up in conspiracists or their theories,
I've never met ms76 nor lyra(at least in this lifetime), so it's not like I'm jumping on a "friends" bandwagon.

I'm actually going to look at a place in Cali, near L.A tomorrow.  Maybe I'm supposed to be there for all the fireworks.  I do like fireworks..............and tidal waves.

Wait...didn't you already do this yesterday?

Hmmmmm.