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Can one live with the ambiguity that they could be real or it could be a psy-op?  Can one then prepare for all angles by imploying as much objective awareness as possible?  Is it required to believe they exist or that they don't?  Is it required to always allow "belief" to divide us?  Are we not all capable of infinite thought without needing a box to define our viewpoints?

I do not believe in belief or disbelief.  I see these concepts as beautiful divide and conquer strategies.

A realist will see that there is enough evidence for the 'possibility' of alien intervention and a black guv psy-op.  A realist will HAVE to conclude that both avenues are appropriate for further thought and discourse.

To answer your question specifically; we do not know if they are real or just a psy-op.  For some this is enough to conclude that they are not real.  For others it's enough to conclude they are.  And for some it's enough to conclude that no conclusion is necessary.

Thanks for this z3n3rg!

You gotta admit the rope, sword, and guillotine were pretty effective on the primitive masses back then. But I think the proper answer to your question is that true oppression must operate covertly in order to have maximum leverage. People cannot combat what they cannot see, and as long as the true manipulators stay in the shadows then any revolution aiming to topple the oppressive power structure will miss the mark and merely chop off one head of the hydra, spawning two more. If high-tech weapons were used by kings of the middle-ages, we today would question where they got it, which points a big neon sign right at the ultimate source of oppression, removing that leverage of secrecy.

You might say that this is an ad hoc rationalization, that lack of evidence of advanced technology by older civilizations should not be attributed to alien secrecy when via Occam's Razor it might be more simply be explained by the idea that alien manipulators never existed to begin with. However, there have been slip-ups, leaks, and anomalies in history that indicate the the influence of a hidden hand -- for more on that, I recommend you read the book "The Gods of Eden" by William Bramley. The author never believed in any of this alien stuff and simply wanted to write a good history book, but after digging into archives and noticing the anomalies, just such a picture emerged. So it became a book about alien manipulation of human history. Amazon or this.

As for psy-ops, apparently both Reptilian/Mantid/non-Gray abductors and black project military abductors use the image of "Grays" as a cover. Like, you can be abducted by one of these factions and given multiple-layered screen memories that make you think you had a warm and fuzzy encounter with the Grays, when it was something far worse. So in that sense the phenomenon of abduction by little gray beings may be partially a psy-ops to divert attention from the real forces doing it. I think Grays are nothing more than genetically-engineered robots and that a huge disinformation campaign has been waged to seed a phony story about who they are and why they're here. Again, the true manipulators find leverage in secrecy. Advanced technology is used, but covertly, especially nowadays.

It's funny you should say this,althought it does not make it true, before I even entertained  "conspiracies",  I just had a random thought, hypothesis, that this was exactly what they were, genetically engineered robots by a higher  "Intelligence".
Of all the random thoughts and "guesses" I have made, before I started searching for the truth,most seemed to be reinforced the more I learn, or others have drawn the same conclusions or specualtions as I.

I certainly do not know, or cannot prove, if it is Psy-Ops or if aliens exist.
I am unsure who all is responsible for all the "Evil" in the world.
I do not think the medieval methods of dispatching folks, being primative, is a strong contradiction of Alien existence.
If they were all running around with lazer guns or glow swords, it would be a very different version of reality we live in now, so there would be a reason for this.
I hate using the word I so much but I hear there is a great battle going on behind the scenes and the "Agenda" is what it's all about.
The worlds TEch has advanced at an incredible rate in the last 100 or so years, some use to tell me this is because the "light of God" is back in the world, ..cough,.. bs, ..cough,.. perhaps some other "light" has stretched it's arm across the land,perhaps it is just humans being humans and discovering many unseen things, like radio waves, and atoms.
It appears everytime a great breakthrough is made, it is because something unseen becomes discovered or visible.
It appears that, until most on a personal level, see the unseen, in this case Aliens, the breakthrough cannot be made.
There is a theory that if enough people become convinced, or experience other worldly encounters, the curtain may fall and the Wizard be revealed ,although perhaps they have counter-measures to this event already in place.
Sometimes there are experience in the gut or even outside of the physical body, that can convince an individual of their existence.
Remember, if higher intelligences exists, they might operate far outside our sphere or abilities.
Their technologies would probably blow some peoples minds or scare ones to death, literally.

But nothing earth shattering.

A logical development from the rock-weapons that primitive men used.

Oppressors do not care if their oppression are "true" or not. All they care is that they oppress people. It is a fetish.

If we can visualize today high-tech prison systems ala Hollywood movies, where one is watched and oppressed with high technology, why didn't these aliens implement that back then?

The only credible answer is that they didn't have it back then. Because if they had it they would have used it.

They would have not needed to show themselves to implement what present day minions are implementing. So this logic does not make sense.

It sounds like it, you must have to agree.

That was his only book. And if aliens are a psy-op what makes you think that he is not a part of that?

Anyone can claim anything. It does not mean what they claim is true.

That is the nature of a psy-op: lies must be seen as truth to be effective. Or lies must be seen as lies to have a true effect.

No matter, the effects is what they are after.

And that is my point. If advanced technology is being used nowadays covertly - and not so covertly: like tasers - what prevented them from using it in the past? NOTHING.

Just the lack of said technology.

The excuse that "if high-tech weapons were used by kings of the middle-ages, we today would question where they got it, which points a big neon sign right at the ultimate source of oppression, removing that leverage of secrecy. " is not applicable because had they used it back then they would not give a flying f*ck whether we knew they were behind that back then. We would be in "highly technological" prisons to do anything about it.

Isn't that what they are planning to do?

Isn't that what all these cameras in England help to impose?

What is the difference from back then and now if Time is non-existent?

They would have waited all this time so that we could talk about it?

I understand that you may be set in your convictions. 

If you are open to considering a clarification, consider that they (the negative aliens and the powers that be) do not have overwhelming superiority.  If that were the case, the game would be up and there would be no contest.

What they may be aiming for is for humans as a whole to effectively enslave themselves.

The game is not one of brute force, but clever deception.

Hundreds of years ago, everyone was "off the grid" in terms of electricity and computerized networks.  It may be more difficult to set up control and surveillance in a deceptive, hidden manner when that is the case.