Topic: The unwanted piece of the alien abduction puzzle

This is an hour and 45 min. interview with Joe Jordan www.ce4research.com and http://aaccoa.org/ Joe is a very serious researcher who has interviewed around 250 alien abduction victims.
he found that people were reporting that they were able to end these abductions by calling on the name and authority of Jesus Christ. He then found out that all the major abduction researchers were finding similar cases but not reporting them, and that a real cover up was going on, a cover up within the UFO community itself. He has been on the front lines of a powerful spiritual war ever since. Counseling hundreds of people from all over the world. This interview goes through all aspects of this research, it connects dots in various different fields like MK-ULTRA and satanic ritual abuse. when reading the testimonies on his website one cant help but notice the similarities in conditions like sleep paralysis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis or night terrors, when people are wide awake yet cant move, this is almost always accompanied by an "evil" or "demonic" presence felt and or seen in the room. This aspect of SP is usually explained away as hallucinations in America. Joe is basically suggesting a thouroghly field tested way to truly stop sleep paralyses and alien abductions forever. This interview is almost two hours long but it is the interview the devil doesn't want you to hear. Why must every knee bow to this name? I know its weird but so are aliens abductions.

http://nowheretorun.podomatic.com/entry … 8_04-07_00

Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important.

—C.S. Lewis

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Re: The unwanted piece of the alien abduction puzzle

I'm sure that a lot of abductions are milabs and occult abuse. But, there are always other ones that don't fit the mold. Have you studied Derrel Sims work? Might want to look him up to me he is the main man of real alien abductions and not milabs or occult that get mixed in.

Link to Mr. Sims' website:

http://www.alienhunter.org/

Re: The unwanted piece of the alien abduction puzzle

I havent looked into his research but i will,
Yes, while reading over all the stories you could see the obvious occult connection some even had masonic or illumnati connections, but it was also obvious that a parent could in some way sort of give away their child to this without the child having done anything initially. then there were cases where no occult connection was mentioned at all, but they would make a remark about their dad being in the navy or the cia as an after-thought. after reading litereally every testimony on the website above there were only one or maby two that were truley confusing. I suppose they could just not be telling us everything which is likley considering they might not think some things I would important. I think your right there are those that dont fit the mold but most fit like a hand in a glove as they say. I dont claim to know the rules of this war and the legal code as it were but I think I now understand it a lot better after all this.

Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important.

—C.S. Lewis

Re: The unwanted piece of the alien abduction puzzle

I don't think that you can say it's all occult. I think what you can say it is milab, occult and ET all being branches off of the same sick tree. Has anyone ever thought that certain ET groups may like programmed people? Easier to control that's for sure. While other people are just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Re: The unwanted piece of the alien abduction puzzle

Maybe it's not the name, maybe it is calling on what you consider to be higher positive forces. And calling on Christ doesn't always work, as some abductees know. The question is when and why does it work. Well, it works when the abductee feels empowered and protected in a divine way, a type of righteous anger. Because that is calling up from within themselves the power of their spirit, which helps them make a connection to any higher positive forces who also are able to step in.

When it does NOT work, is when an abductee cries out the name of Christ from a position of being utterly helpless and terrified, like a baby crying for daddy, totally absorbed in their own terror and having figuratively turned into a puddle of jelly. Because that continues to allow their connection to the predatory abductors. If saying a prayer and rebuking them in Christ's name gives them an inner spiritual strength, then it works.

Another known technique is mentally creating a high pitched sound. That has also been known to disrupt the onset of an abduction. But it probably works for the same reason: your confidence builds as you use it and so your spirit is reinforced, and it keeps your mind focused and thus resistant to bending under the paralyzing telepathic pressure of the grays. Prayer is another way to keep the mind focused. The worst thing to do is submit to terror and lose all control. The best thing to do is puff yourself up with divine power and righteous anger, to know that positive forces have your back, and to keep your mind focused on something of your own choosing. It's the metaphysical equivalent of animals getting fluffed and puffed to ward off an attacker.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

Re: The unwanted piece of the alien abduction puzzle

as you probably know most abductees do not have fun during their trips. they feel they are being tortured by these things. dont you think they have been asking all along "how do you stop this" "please, does someone know what I can do to stop this?" If it were as simple as thinking positive and calling of the mental image of protection real or unreal then we should see some publications concerning this. Here are hundreds of cases claiming that they have regardless of their current spiratual condition ended what ufology says is un-endable by calling for help from Jesus. dont feel bad guys no one wants to hear this. I am putting this here so people going through this have some ammo next time thos bastards come calling.  Montalk, you should really read through these cases to get a feel for whats happening here, contray to what you said the confidence in the individual concerning this has little to nothing to do with ending a particular abduction. however subsequent abductions do happen to those who do not close the doors completely yet they can still end athe individual experiences everytime. you start to get a feeling that there is a legalality issue concerning this. dont kill the messenger.

Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important.

—C.S. Lewis