Topic: Strange visions - pineal gland?

I'd like to share some of the weird experiences that I have been having and see if anybody had any similar experiences.

About half a year ago I started practicing astral projections after reading a book on the subject by some Russian author. Along with the usual stuff associated with projections (vibrations, falling sensations, paralysis, etc.) I began having weird momentary visions of different things. What is weird about them is that they do not have those precursors of astral projections - I don't get any vibes, any energy surges, any falling sensations, and most of the visions have a common thread of having to do with some kind of technology.

The onset of the visions is completely unexpected - I am asleep one moment and then, I come to full awareness and it feels like my vision is sucked into some other dimension and I see what I see. The very first thing I saw was a squid-like thingy with mechanical looking tentacles that wiggled very beautifully in front of me. I also seemed to get a telepathical message that said that this was either my own creation or part of myself. I didn't have any fear - I was only fascinated by the vision.

Later visions were all static - there was no movement in them but most of them were also technological. I must add that the technology doesn't seem human. At least, I have never seen anything like that.

Later I saw some blob like things right in front of my face with some spiky things (or wires) sticking out of it and possibly going right into me.

Then, there was like a kitchen - some metallic surfaces, sinks and faucets, and different instruments. There seemed to be someone there but I couldn't quite figure out who.

Then there was something like a big mainframe computer board with lots of cables sticking out of it. There also seemed to be very intense sunshine or some light sourse that illuminated the surrounding.

The wires and cables seem like a constant thing of the visions. I see them in different arrangements and shapes with different connectors and some other varying details.

Another constant theme is what seem like pieces of fabric or paper with very intricate designs on them.

When the vision comes I know that I have very little time because they last only from a fraction of a second to a few seconds, and I also have to remain calm in order to hang in there longer.

I don't know what to make of this. Maybe it is just my pineal gland shooting DMT into my brain and causing all those visions. On the other hand, it is kind of creepy that the common thread behind the vision is some sort of technology. It makes me wonder, sometimes, that the movie Matrix is not science fiction after all.

I would appreciate any comments.

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I have a little exprience with this I've had all the astral things you've had and the just boom slipping into another dimension thing as well. Most of the time there is no technology connected with this at all. Just different realities and beings. I did have one where I was being shown a massive technological thing it was shaped like a pentagon. You could open it on all sides. I can still hear the boom sound it made each time you opened a side and shut it. I don't know what it was for. I've also had times when I'm in front of some massive computer.

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GenSek, belljar, I get stuff like this too once in a while. Mostly visions of what looks like forests or sometimes buildings. If you try to look it goes away. Montalk had something in his book about looking at the random images in the dark before you fall asleep.

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

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Weird I can look and look at it and it doesn't go away it's like I'm there. I have to pull myself out most of the time. Last time I was in some garden world the longer I stayed in it the more my heart chakra hurt. I kept saying: Is anyone there? No one answered. It was wild. All I did was close my eyes and I was there I wasn't asleep.

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Yes, starling, that is how it is with me - when I focus on looking and figuring out what it is I am seeing it just goes away. It sort of looses 3 dimensionality and becomes two-dimensional. There is also a residual afterimage which dissipates in a few seconds.

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Shoogie wrote:

Please help. I don't know where to post this.

I have been having a lot of difficulty lately remembering my dreams. I used to have OBE's quite regularly and would soar through the air at night. It was the most liberating feeling. Over the past 5 months I have spotty recall of dreams and haven't had a flying dream in as long as I can remember.

So it scared me when I recalled two dreams I've had lately had about being trapped in a pod or coffin like contraption just before waking! Both dreams were lucid, and so realistic I was relieved when I woke up.

The first one occured where I felt someone feeding me a 'purple' viscous and sweet liquid to drink and then placed into a "box" [is the only way I can describe it] that fit just tightly enough around my body that I couldn't move. I felt panicked and afraid.

The second dream [more like a half waking realization than a dream] was where I was lying down on my back in a cylindrical tube and there was some sort of barrier over my head so I couldn't sit up. The scariest part was there was a figure standing beside me writing something on a clipboard and I could sense others ahead of me and behind me in other cylinders!!!!

I panicked again, not realizing it wasn't "real"...........was it?

Could this be the reason I can't fly anymore. Are they grounding us now!???  Last night I was catapulted out of my body unexpectedly and I flew around a futuristic looking city. There was no visual cue for this in my waking life. I was totally lucid and everything was in crystal clear digital. I could see signs, colors, everything and felt the wind on my face.

Just as I started to really look at the signs I physically felt myself slammed back down and woke up. I think we really are living in a matrix. I now believe we aren't seeing what is really going on around us and are living in a crafted reality. Literally, not just psychologically! yikes

Has anyone else had trouble dreaming or with OBE?

I attended an Ayahauasca workshop in Brazil last month, and a lot of the people saw a squid/octopus type creature in their journeys.  I myself saw the squiddy from the matrix.  I also had visions on the Ayahausaca were it appeared I was on the inside looking out at some beings?  But who and where was I?

"...But Nothing is Lost:" "Nothing lasts... nothing lasts. Everything is changing into something else. Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track. William Blake said nothing is lost and I believe that we all move on." - Terrence McKenna - Shpongle - But Nothing Is Lost

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I remember a few years ago on the unknowncountry.com forum someone said those squid/octopus are higher dimensional beings that feed off our energy. Can't confirm this of course.

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Yet another amazing synchronicity; this forum really is full of surprises...

Before going to sleep one night sometime in the middle of last week, as I started closing my eyes, I also had one of these octopus/squid beings in my vision (I identified it more as an octopus at the time, as the strongest visual in my mind was of the characteristic large suction cups on the tentacles).

The weird thing is, right as this vision appeared, it's like my normal mental conscious thoughtstream just turned off immediately, and in its place it felt like my higher self just instantaneously took over the words going through my head.  And during the 30 seconds or so of this, this voice, my higher voice, talked as if it already recognized this creature/being without any doubt.  It had a brief conversation with the octopus, in which it said something to the effect that its time "here" was now over, that there is no resentment for the events up this point since they were infact necessary, but that time has now passed and so it was time for our ways to part.  And the weird thing is the octopus didn't fight this at all, it responded in this plain semi-intellectual Alan Rickman kinda voice where it said so be it, i'll be on my way then... and it was completely unemotional, like I didn't feel like this being was an "attachment" in the vampiric nasty sense, it was more like it was attached but for the purposes of a job of some sort, because as soon as my higher self said that time was done, the being acted like "very well, my work here is complete then, adieu" and swam off.

The interesting thing is, I've been quitting smoking (had to; my health was seriously suffering for it, it was no longer an option) and was using a nicotine patch, which I was down to the last "step" on but couldn't quite seem to kick... until the next day after that octopus meeting, wherein I not only didn't want to put on another nicotine patch, but the idea of doing so almost felt kinda nautious.  Now it's been several days without a patch, and so far I don't miss it.  I'm not sure if there's a connection with that octopus saying "adieu", but I can't entirely rule it out given the timing.

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Now that I remember I had only one encounter with the squid/octopus but it was a dream. I woke up laughing though. I was in a line of people. We were tossing them at each other and laughing. They were dead. And we were just having so much fun throwing these huge alien like creatures at each other.

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kinsei wrote:

Yet another amazing synchronicity; this forum really is full of surprises...

Before going to sleep one night sometime in the middle of last week, as I started closing my eyes, I also had one of these octopus/squid beings in my vision (I identified it more as an octopus at the time, as the strongest visual in my mind was of the characteristic large suction cups on the tentacles).

The weird thing is, right as this vision appeared, it's like my normal mental conscious thoughtstream just turned off immediately, and in its place it felt like my higher self just instantaneously took over the words going through my head.  And during the 30 seconds or so of this, this voice, my higher voice, talked as if it already recognized this creature/being without any doubt.  It had a brief conversation with the octopus, in which it said something to the effect that its time "here" was now over, that there is no resentment for the events up this point since they were infact necessary, but that time has now passed and so it was time for our ways to part.  And the weird thing is the octopus didn't fight this at all, it responded in this plain semi-intellectual Alan Rickman kinda voice where it said so be it, i'll be on my way then... and it was completely unemotional, like I didn't feel like this being was an "attachment" in the vampiric nasty sense, it was more like it was attached but for the purposes of a job of some sort, because as soon as my higher self said that time was done, the being acted like "very well, my work here is complete then, adieu" and swam off.

The interesting thing is, I've been quitting smoking (had to; my health was seriously suffering for it, it was no longer an option) and was using a nicotine patch, which I was down to the last "step" on but couldn't quite seem to kick... until the next day after that octopus meeting, wherein I not only didn't want to put on another nicotine patch, but the idea of doing so almost felt kinda nautious.  Now it's been several days without a patch, and so far I don't miss it.  I'm not sure if there's a connection with that octopus saying "adieu", but I can't entirely rule it out given the timing.

How odd!!! We might be on to something here with the squiddy! It just that originally I thought about giving a little bit of history about myself but later thought against it so as to stay focused on my main queston. It is just that about half a year ago when I first started doing astral projections and other related things, I finally said good-bye to my fundamentalist Christian views and it was so liberating! I finally clearly saw what religion was all about - just a huge parasitic organism that propagated by infecting peoples' minds and feeding off of their energy, minds, and bodies. I spent about 15 years as a devout Christian and I can authoritatively tell you that there is absolutely nothing behind it but manipulation and enslavement.

Anyway, after saying good-bye to religion and starting astral projecting, I sort of opened a door to a whole new world out there. There are things happening to me all the time. At times I feel like I have been awakened after a long sleep or hypnosis. I begin reading thoughts, get messages in my dreams, meet entities during astral travels, and have major happenings with my third eye. And all that within a span of just half a year! And all of that started with a vision of the mechanical squiddy! By the way, I don't know where exactly your squid, kinsei, had its succion cups, but mine had something at the very ends of its tentacles - so that they looked like they (the tentacles) were sharply cut off at the ends.

I am amazed at your description of the exchage between the squiddy and your higher self, kinsei. I felt the same thing during the vision - it became dead quiet and the telepathic message said something to the effect of: This is (or used to be) part of your self. Or This was your mind (or in your mind). And after that vision everything is just completely new and fascinating in my life - like I have finally been unplugged from some huge hypnotic machine that prevented me from reaching new levels.

Indeed, I am starting to see some objective reality behind these squiddy visions.

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Huh, well after some meditation, I just decided to stare at my ceiling. I saw the usual blobs move by, but they quickly bored me. So I just laid there, closing my left eye and staring with my right. As I was doing this, I began to see what looked like vines/tentacles flowing in geometric patterns. Maybe it's connected big_smile

"Don't eat any wooden nickels."

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i wanted u guys to see this.  its old, and id never seen it said like this before, but i think its partly because of this.

from our favorite Blue's "blue" google groups mission control.  wings of isis--part 1.

the inner and outer pituitary also work with the pineal and hypothalamus
..... the pineal is like a radio antenna receiver .... it channels and steps
down energy from the spirit/soul into the spacesuit .... when changing
frequency channels this is where it occurs .... the pituitary takes this
energy/information and and creates sensory biofeedback .... thru eyes /
ears/ nose ... loopback .....

when both pituitary and pineal are in synch a resonance chamber ... or a
communication corridor pathway is setup between the two ... causing a
illuminating view .... see auras ... or experience kundalini effects ...
electrical / magnetic / plasmic vibrant colours .... 3rd eye peripheral
vision .... this sometimes can be heard as a hum .... or electrical
crackling sound ....

when these two chakras begin to resonate together ... it is likened to that
of dragon-fly wings buzzing ... four wings .. .four chambers of the brain
.... and thus the term "wings of isis"

and i had seen this right about the time i found the alphabet sounds, symbols, supposed "real" meanings were originally an isis-generated development.

then, one can even check out if that HUM sound, noise, that ENT Doc has heard, along with nexus's latest post on sound and the I AM that I AM, and assess if connections.   seems very synonymous, or likely that that generation of sound, with glands as receivers (ie. electrical energy or electromagnetic energy) may align with that power spot that humans have, wherein the pituitary and the pineal synch in a resonance chamber.  the hum noise is generated from that. ive seen that hum associated with torsion vacuum fields--the portals?

ive read one theory that when the shift starts to begin, it will be felt from within, and that a very novel hum will begin, and reverberate across the land.  it will become gradually pronounced.  will start and generate,  BE in ur head.  now, what if it does begin because the antennae of the "new human"  easily and readily picks up on that, and goes with that flow to meld into 4--5D,  almost automatically since we always have our collective and individual antenna up, were very "attuned".  weve been training to be so tuned.  we work that all the time.  other humans wont be able to access that easily but some will, because theyre living from heart.  awareness and heart causes the most tuning, the way in, the seat of the soul, thats ready to shift, bump up.  the heart and mind are connected, so possibly that pineal-pituitary kicks in and that resonant chamber is put into drive mode, when pshycis are jusr 'right' for the shift.   the sensations from that pituitary-pineal-hypothalamic chamber guide and protect and arrange for the shift to take place.  the hum is the change in vibration, and its all around those that will be shifting.  the personal individual and even group resonance will equate with the cymatics of the hum.  its physiological, hence the biological ascension.  the vibrational frequency is personal, individual and even group too, if theres that much resonance.  the frequencies jive or feed back to each other, in a feedback loop, ever ranging higher in frequency (im no physics major--get montalk and others in here) so that where one lands will be where they fit with the corresponding cymatic levels of frequency.  one could literally materialize and rematerialize molecularly, like in star trek.  therefore, there is no death.  no death with that.  totally unnecessary. 

i will also go out on a limb (heh) and speculate that the electrical hum/humming noise ppl hear (belljar, montalk, many others have felt/heard it) when negs show up is from that corridor.  and those entities know that, somehow stimulate that area upon attack and generate their show from there.  thats what makes them powerful.  or look so.  they have a manual on us, that we dont own and have difficulty getting our hands on.   if we only knew how things worked more, we'd have an upper hand.  so i think this pituitary pineal linked hotbox.  ive heard too, that when alien announcements take place. theyll target the mind with a hum, first and then "tune in."  and start broadcasting from there.  its the inside radio station.  and this maybe explains it i think.

going OUT even further, id venture to say, this feeling, wherein this stimulation starts to signal could be used to prepare for the non-split ba ka no cord cut idea.  thus we live on, in another dimension.  and get ready to be in the realms where the 'others' live.  psi kick-in at full blast, which looks like that would happen in an alignment anyway.  we go in/thru whole.  we have become what weve desired, the intent is the outcome.  with no FEAR.  no guilt, because we know about such things.  we could feel what was coming with it, from that axis point, know what to do with that.  we have to know what to do, what to think, feel.  we'd have to trust in that and since  it would be on a level of vibration we align with, i think it might be less scary.  hopefully.  we will have to go with it, and no looking back.  im not going to stop those swirly things if thats how i recognize it starting.  that might have been done to show me how realm borders look/feel.  thats why everybody's on their own with this.  one can only hope, and ill say pray, for lack of what else would substitute there, that our loved ones will have it together to go in tandem.  or in those groups.  talk about a 'trip' for all us old hippies.  RUSH for/OF the VANGUARD.  the ultimate kundalini.  see, that may be why we came here, to experience that.  wouldnt that be the total ULTIMATE icing on the final chessboard game cake?!  it would be a full circle journey for all the ear-ringers, trippers, experiencers, dabblers of the esoteric in this life.  looking forward to something like this, if not this then, close to it.  and that pineal-pituitary axis is where the egyptians thot advanced enlightenment was derived.  they had tests and exercises that stimulated that power spot.  they knew alot of great stuff, but so do the other side.  thats why we need something to go with this, like trust or faith or?  knowledge?  or?

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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Interesting ideas zenden as always. Has anyone felt themselves vibrate not before an OBE I mean fully awake. I thought there was an earthquake LOL But my body wasn't shaking it was just humming all over. I'll have these incidents about once a month. Also OBEs have been a lot more frequent and I have been running into what we'll just call the others I guess of various types. They just seemed confused by me for some reason which I don't know why. Aren't they supposed to have a manual on me like you said zenden? I'm just so flighty and free spirited I guess. LOL The best OBE I had in the last few months was one where I went out and I found my dog was out too. Anyway I think my pineal gland has always been pretty active and it just keeps getting stronger. But, trying to balance all this is the difficult part. Like don't let people know you can see fields and auras around everything and everybody. Don't let them know that when you look at the world you can see it as holographic. Don't tell them that you leave your body. Or that you can tune into different realities without really trying. Hide it because any differences they see as weakness and they will pounce on you.

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belljar wrote:

Has anyone felt themselves vibrate not before an OBE I mean fully awake. I thought there was an earthquake LOL

Wow...yes that has happened to me before!  I had forgotten all about it.  It was several years ago, but yeah it felt just like an earthquake.  Like everything around me was vibrating but I was the only one who could feel it.  It wasn't like I was having a dizzy spell or anything like that.  Just one of those things I filed away in my mind, because I never had any explanation for it.

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Well, it's good to know someone else has had it. Don't know what it means but I'm sure there is someone here who could take a guess. If I was being vague I would say oh you are changing vibrations and going to a higher frequency but that just sounds too childish maybe?