1 Topic by ontrack24 (edited by ontrack24 2007-04-22 05:19:45)

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Topic: The nazi SS and 11:11

I just came upon a realization

http://www.totls.com/NAZI%20SS%20FLAG.jpg

And the realization was that the logo for the nazi SS, the "lightning bolt" S'es, is just a sort of lightly 'scrambled' form of two number 11's! I'm not sure what this may imply, apart from, maybe, that they already knew about this 11:11 stuff back then. But it sure was interesting to suddenly see this so clearly.

Any thoughts on what this may mean?

(btw - 1. funny that nazism has been linked to new age in various ways, already. 2. For those who don't know, the SS was the "Schutzstaffel" - german for "protective squadron" and something of a secret service for the nazis)

2 Reply by oavada (edited by oavada 2007-04-22 18:20:29)

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Re: The nazi SS and 11:11

It's a symbol of the norse god Odin's weapon the "Gungnir". The nazis tried to resurrect norse mythological ideas that the Jews and Christians massacred to install Christianity. (or Christ-inanity if you prefer). The Swastika was also a symbol used by Nordic tribes to represent the Norse God Thor. The Schutzstaffel depicted here is a representation of Odin's javelin gungnir, which in norse mythology was able to strike thunder to defeat enemies.

Again, these are all references to norse mythological deities.

Similiar myths are found in vedic teachings with Indra, who used the thunderbolt "vajra" to defeat enemies. Lightning and Thunder is a symbol of the primordial Om, the creative thought forces of the human will which is used to release the sacred waters of Soma into the consciousness of the individual.

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Re: The nazi SS and 11:11

Interesting discover!

BTW, the high top nazi were occultists, goldem down related...

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Re: The nazi SS and 11:11

ontrack,
I believe that Crowley said in one of his "discourses" that eleven was the number of pure evil. I don't know if that is accurate or not, you never can tell about what you read via the Internet or even print media.
Other people have posted on the 11:11 used by both sides in the war on good and evil on this forum, and also about the movie Oceans 11 using  the nazi colors of red, black and white on their posters. If you do a search you will find a lot of info on this. 11:11 also adds up to 22 which is also a master occult number. I guess numbers are neutral but can be used by intent by either side. Eleven is supposed to be a powerful occult number, but the angelic people also always bring it up. So as usual, it is hard to tell what reality is.-lala

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Re: The nazi SS and 11:11

11:11

(...)
11:23  (fibonacci sequence)
    =
23:23 (eleven eleven) in French we use this 24 hours system instead of AM/PM.

This 23 number is everywhere in aglo-american culture (and this culture is now all over the world).

6 Reply by belljar (edited by belljar 2007-04-22 12:11:47)

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Re: The nazi SS and 11:11

11:11 could represent duality. Also Alex Collier says we have 22 different ET races in our DNA 11+11= 22
Again we could go on and on perhaps it's not one thing but a whole host of things all at once.

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Re: The nazi SS and 11:11

And the realization was that the logo for the nazi SS, the "lightning bolt" S'es, is just a sort of lightly 'scrambled' form of two number 11's! I'm not sure what this may imply, apart from, maybe, that they already knew about this 11:11 stuff back then. But it sure was interesting to suddenly see this so clearly.

Any thoughts on what this may mean?

The SS symbol is made of two sowilo / sigel / sig runes, letters of the Nordic / Viking alphabet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sig_Rune

The rune symbolizes the "sun" although for the Nazis it was the "black sun." The rune also represents victory, and the German word for victory is "sieg" which links it to the "sig" rune. Therefore the SS symbol could be interpreted as meaning "victory by the black sun."

This double solar symbol does look like an 11:11 -- good observation! And who brought the 11:11 phenomenon into New Age mass consciousness? Solara.

There is another link between Nazis and 11:11...

The Nordic and Phoenecian alphabets look similar:

http://www.nvtc.gov/lotw/months/august/images/PhoenicianAlphabet.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1572/runasequivalenciaalfabexp9.jpg

So these runes go way back in history, from the Vikings to the Phoenecians to the Aryans who inspired the sanskrit Vedas. Maybe they trace back further to the nordic civilization existent in Atlantean times, and if you accept the Cassiopaean suggestions, even further to the high-tech nordic cultures of Kantek before they were evacuated to earth.

I think runes were originally archetypal diagrams of hyper-dimensional processes. At least, you can figure out what each one means if you interpret their geometric shapes in a spiritual / timeline / dimensional context. For instance, take the SS symbol:

http://www.totls.com/NAZI%20SS%20FLAG.jpg

It really looks like two parallel lines broken in the middle and shifted over. Parallel lines form the simplest symbol for parallel timelines.  But if parallel timelines are broken in the middle and shifted over before continuing on, that would represent timeline manipulation. So the SS symbol could just as well represent hyperdimensional conquest. Which ties back into "victory by the black sun."

Then again, not all timeline manipulation is negative -- some is just the natural readjustment of things towards a better timeline. I don't care what New Age authors have written about the meaning of 11:11 -- from observation and experience I know it means only one thing for me:  you are in the flow and progressing onto a positive timeline. If this morning I was going in a negative direction, but this afternoon I am in a good mood, doing constructive things, being in harmony, then I get 11:11s among other positive numbers. Every single time without fail. On receipts, license plates, wherever, sometimes in ways so amazing that only a tweaking of the timeline could have produced them.

What makes most sense to me is that the SS symbol and 11:11 both signify hyper-dimensional timeline switching, but towards different ends.

11:11 could also mean harmony, if interpreted as a one-to-one ratio between two parallel timelines.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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about 5 years ago, I ate shroums very often. And invitably, the hour 11:11 on te clock was always at the rendez-vous.

There was a radio show lead by a new age guy in Quebec, called Jaques Languirand, his show is called Par 4 Chemins. The last hour of his show was called L'Heure du hibou (The Hour of the Owl) at 11:00. At 11:11, there was always a short musical interlude.   

I would be with other people, we would trip and, at 11:11, i would look inevitably at the clock.

Now I feel there was an elemental like to me that would play those tricks. Most psychotic people believe what I just said. they live unconscious pathologic relationships with elementals.

Now it never happens to me. I guess I changed the situation about a year ago when I realised the truth of our soul connections to certain fallen elementals and how we must connect, through joy and knowledge, to pure elementals following Christ.


Montalk's interpretation of the 2 bolts meaning a 'diverted flow', means to me : the eight sphere as sphere of evil. It tries to make our world deviate into becoming an eighth sphere, a subhuman realm, subnatural realm, a parallel artificial world that asuras create with the help of luciferic and ahrimanic demons.

I felt that the SS symbol meant black sun, or the Sun Demon, of Asuric solar nature (2 degrees over luciferic angels, one degree over ahrimanic archangels), SORAT, man ultimate failure at the End of Time, man who put himself in place of God, man that became the precise total incarnation of all evil in a godlike-human nature (S:physical, V:etheric body, R:astral body, T:ego). This is the same figure as Ahasuerus, the Wandering Jew, damned man who cruelly denied Christ's suffering.
Now Zionists put the Holocaust of Jews in place of the Sacrifice of Christ! They place their own suffering in place of God's incarnation's suffering!

They replace the Golgotha event with their Holocaust!!!

we can recognise every bid of the asuric nature of nazism+communism in ZIONISM TODAY!

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1 1 : 1 1      =   The Double

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11:11

The Door (or two columns)

(implicitly, the Double is there, as a Guardian)

It invoques anxiety, crossing the threshold.

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Re: The nazi SS and 11:11

1

11

11:11

Division


diabol : divides  (the devil is in the details, divide and conquer)
symbol : unites (above and below, etc.)

The Devil divides, his realm is divided aginst himself, as Christ said it once.

The Devil is part of a world that can only mimic the true spiritual world. It mirrors it. It poses as if it were truth and good. It is simulacra. Just like human simulacra described by Cs, This Awareness, and others. Kind of a conspiracy of the Double wanting to 'replace us'. (Steiner says the same about the ahrimanic double).

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Re: The nazi SS and 11:11

See the lighting bolt in here.
http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/image/image/976/medium/moses_with_tablets.jpg

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Druid wrote:

11:11

The Door (or two columns)

(implicitly, the Double is there, as a Guardian)

It invoques anxiety, crossing the threshold.

Could it also have to do with the fragmented nature of the psychotic personality, which is being manufactured by all the things aimed at manipulating human consciousness, and the way trauma is induced in people to artificially split the mind creating this type of mind. Because that would describe how the lower or negative double is teased out in humans. This seems to be happening more and more lately, and the type of elemental attachment to psychotic thinking is rampant in all the false spirituality that is being pawned off on people.-lala

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Re: The nazi SS and 11:11

totally true.

mirrors, doubles, images in mirror, psyche split in manyfold subpersona...

YES!

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Steiner talked about the Thugs (mind-controlled assassins serving black lodges) being tools for Asuric activity.
anthroposophist RenéQuérido also says that discotheques, with its lights, strobes, and lasers, and people dancing like medieval squeletton puppets, filled with energy coming from nowhere so they can dance all night even though they're tired. That's asuric activity. Whenpeople lie it cuts our strings connecting us to the spiritual,. It blows hole in our astral bopdy, and in these holes asuric beings can act through us.
Asuras are also active in suicides. Suicide among young people has increased by 254% in the last 30 years. This life force that is not used because of the suicide of young people is used by asuric bneings in order to make the future come prematurely, to speed up evolution and distort the true nature of human beings.
Quérido talks also about the mask of sanity in psychopaths, or "people of the lie" (Peck). another tool of asuric activity in human societies.

So when we talk about the evils of ahrimanic beings, we should see it in the light of asuric activity. Ahriman in himself has his virtues, just like Lucifer. They both are essential in our evolution. But asuric attacks must be avoided at all cost, they do not belong to our world and have nothing to do with our evolution.