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Topic: "You do it to yourself" - Radiohead, Just

I have been having a lot of extremely lucid experiences recently coming in and out of the dream state.  Last night I left Godspeed you Black Emperor playing on my computer as I went to sleep.  I remember being in a dream state and slowly becoming aware of a Godspeed song playing still playing, at which point I said to myself something like "Thats it, creativity is the key"  I can only assume what this meant, but nearly instantaneously I experienced extremely lucid visuals, and a very uncomfortable feeling that I get as a result of my whole body entering a different state of being.  I don't know how to describe the feeing but it might be a different vibratory state.  Anyway the Godspeed songs are forlorn and depressing, and I noticed the more fear and discomfort I felt as I was transitioning into this altered state, the more the visualizations became dark and sinister until a dark entity manifest in front of my face and began attempting to terrorize me.  The idea came to me clear and powerful "Holy Sh*t, we do it to ourselves!"  It is something that becomes crystal clear when you enter these altered states, is that the energies surrounding you match those that you are feeling in the body and mind.  While this concept is never as clear as when I am in an altered state, it still makes perfect sense to me now. 

That is why all this fear is on the telivision, and everywhere.  Fear is dehabiliting and weakens the will and personal strength making us easy to manipulate and feed off of.  Why do we fear.  Your awareness will not end with the death of your body, and your body will die one day no matter what you do to protect it.  Most of us that are on this forum would not have chosen to come to our current lives if there was a real threat to the future of our beings.  So why are we so afraid?  Perhaps I am speaking too much for myself.

"...But Nothing is Lost:" "Nothing lasts... nothing lasts. Everything is changing into something else. Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track. William Blake said nothing is lost and I believe that we all move on." - Terrence McKenna - Shpongle - But Nothing Is Lost

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Re: "You do it to yourself" - Radiohead, Just

Capitan wrote:

The idea came to me clear and powerful "Holy Sh*t, we do it to ourselves!"

YES!  And if you can experience this so vividly in an altered state of consciousness, just realize how much stronger it is when you don't objectively recognize what is happening.  We allow so much background noise to dictate what we experience. 

We really do ourselves in when we think life is bad, or we are not meant to be here.  When I start to have these kinds of thoughts I can feel dark energies closing in on me, and I know I am just drawing it into myself.  So I think again, and focus instead on something that is hopeful.  The heavy energy disperses immediately.  I used to really struggle with despair and worthlessness and it was hard to find my way out.  Fear feeds on itself and grows larger and larger until you realize it is just an illusion.  Most of the things we are afraid of, are things that we have already lived through in other lifetimes, or things that will never come to pass in our chosen timeline.

3 Reply by Capitan (edited by Capitan 2007-04-11 19:03:17)

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Re: "You do it to yourself" - Radiohead, Just

"The Masters" - Channeled through "Catherine" (pseudo name)

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Many Lives many Masters[/u], Brian Weiss]  (Brian) You were correct in assuming this is the proper treatment (hypnotic Regression) for those in the physical state.  You must eradicate the fears from their minds.  It is a waste of energy when fear is present.  It stifles them from fulfilling what they were sent here to fulfill.  Take your cues form your surroundings.  They must first be put into a level very, very deep . . . where they no longer can feel their body.  Then you can reach them.  It's only on the surface . . . that the troubles lie.  Deep within their soul, where the ideas are created, that is where you must reach them.

Energy . . . everything is energy.  So much is wasted.  The mountains . . . inside the mountain it is quiet; it is calm at the center.  But on the outside is where the trouble lies.  Humans can only see the outside, but you can go much deeper.  You have to see the volcano.  To do it you have to go deep inside. 

To be in the physical state is abnormal.  When you are in spiritual state, that is natural to you.  When we are sent back, it's like being sent back to something we do not know.  It  will take us longer.  In the spirit world you have to wait, and then you are renewed.  There is a sate of renewal.  It's a dimension like the other dimensions, and you have almost succeeded in reaching that state...

... (Brian) You know so much more than the others.  You understand so much more.  Be patient with them. They don't have the knowledge that you have... continue.  This energy must not be wasted.  You must get rid of the fear.   That will be the greatest weapon you have. . .

Other then the obvious point here about fear wasting your energy, I wanted to point out the last sentence of the first paragraph, "Deep in the soul, where the ideas are created"  Last night when I said to my self "Thats it, creativity is the key"  I think creativity is our power, it is what the institutions here are designed to take away, to control, and to eventually steal for the use of the archons.  Who knows what the Archons do with it, but creativity is our power, I sense it.

"...But Nothing is Lost:" "Nothing lasts... nothing lasts. Everything is changing into something else. Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track. William Blake said nothing is lost and I believe that we all move on." - Terrence McKenna - Shpongle - But Nothing Is Lost

4 Reply by SamIAm (edited by SamIAm 2007-04-12 00:02:24)

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Re: "You do it to yourself" - Radiohead, Just

Isn't Godspeed your black emperor being creative in their music endeavors? 
Why do they create music that puts people into darker states of awareness & fear? 
What part of their awareness are they using to create the music that they do?
Evidently it's not from that true creative spark of calmness?

So many bands have fear-based music. 
All of heavy metal & alternative rock for the most part is fear-based, depressing, and gloomy.   
Not to label them as such, but it's what they usually create to maintain their image, and massive egos.

Music affects me so much.  I can't listen to Tool, Metallica, NIN, Danzig, mARILYN mANSON, Rob Zombie, Siouxsie and the banshees, The Cure, Depeche Mode, etc.. despite their great lyrics and musical ability, I find their music to shift my energy to a lower state, and cause me to want to use my ego more then my heart.  Not to mention their music videos which put all of these rather sick disgusting images in my head.  Their music fucks you up.  big_smile


To be fair I can't listen to any pop music either.  Pop music just makes you feel giddy and stupid.

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I like NIN and Tool a lot, but I have to be in a certain mood to listen, and it's not a kind of mood I want to be in all the time.  I see that type of music as a tool (so Tool is appropriately named, LOL) for dealing with negative feelings.  You can either use the music to dwell on it and stay stuck in it, or to release it and move on.  There have been a lot of times in my life when I listened to NIN and said, oh my god, Trent Reznor is the only person in the world who knows exactly what I am feeling right now.  That helped me get through some really bad times.  That is one purpose of music and other forms of art, to let people know they are not alone in whatever they are feeling.  Some of these people are taking on collective energies and attempting to transmute them, maybe damaging themselves in the process.

A few years ago I started getting messages from a spirit, not sure who, that it's not good for me to listen to NIN because the vibrations are too heavy.  Not that it's dangerous, or demonic, just not good, not something that would ultimately make me happy.  I think it was put to me like "why do you want to keep putting that in your spirit?"  It's the creation of another person who is clearly stuck in heavy emotions.  It's sad because I think Trent Reznor really is a genius.  His understanding of rhythm is unsurpassed in modern music.  The mathematical precision in his music rivals Bach, but the energy invoked by it is of a very different nature. 

Guns N Roses is another group that I really love, but can't listen to often.  When I was in middle school they were my favorite band, and the subject of a lot of fights with my parents.  Out of all the hard rock and heavy metal I listened to, my GNR tapes were the only ones my mom felt like she had to take away from me.  Probably because of that their music became symbolic for me of everything that the oppressive christian environment I grew up wanted to "steal" from my being.  I'm still blown away by the power of Slash's guitar solos.  It's pure snake medicine, kundalini rising.  But I really have to reign myself in after I listen to it, because it's not for the everday world.

From what I understand a lot of popular music has subliminal programming, and most of the time it is put in without the artist's knowledge or consent.  I'm not referring to backwards messages, or things that can be picked up by the naked ear.  These are more like deeply embedded digital messages and signals.  A fascination with a particular number or number sequence can be related to a subliminal message.  For instance when a person sees a clock reading that number, it would trigger the state of mind induced by a song containing that sequence. 

But the music itself is what affects the listener the most, so an artist's handlers will try to influence them to affect the music in a negative way.  This almost always involves pushing drugs at them to keep them controlled and more susceptible to energy attachments.  In the more extreme situations like John and Yoko it involves controlling every single aspect of the person's life, what they are allowed to eat, going to the toilet, etc.  If the overall message and tone of the music is positive, the handlers will try to corrupt it and use that person's light to reach more people with the corrupted message.  If the music is essentially dark in nature, the person will be encouraged to self-destruct.  Celebrities are always invited to join the satanic church, or scientology.  If a person can't be recruited into a cult, they are put under the guard of a handler 24 hours a day, or they are taken out of the game.

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Re: "You do it to yourself" - Radiohead, Just

Getting back to what Capitan was talking about, take a look at http://pandc.ca/?cat=car_jung&page= … ividuation for a Jungian interpretation of what we have inside our minds. If the "psyche is a pack rat", as the author believes, what sorts of garbage and assorted horrors has our collective unconscious (or the universal unconscious) stored over the millenia? Monsters from the Id!

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