Re: Dreams

lyra wrote:

In my dream from last night / early this morning it was supposed to be 3 a.m. and yet the sky was blue and it was sunny out.   I was with somebody and asked them, "Look outside....tell me if you notice anything weird........"   They looked....but didn't notice that it was still sunny at 3 a.m.!   

It's not the first time I've dreamt of light skies / sun at night, but it is a rare dream theme.  Don't get it too often.   Anybody here ever have such a dream??

Yes!! I've had this dream once, probably about a month or two ago. I was walking through the town I grew up in, and it was definitely night time except there was this new sun in the sky making everything look like it was the middle of the day, and I remember thinking (in my dream) about what Atlantis said awhile back about Jupiter being turned into a second sun and so I thought something like 'oh that must be Jupiter'. It was a very strange dream and I don't usually remember most of my dreams like a lot of people here do, but I certainly remember that one for some reason.

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Ayahuasca wrote:

Yes!! I've had this dream once, probably about a month or two ago. I was walking through the town I grew up in, and it was definitely night time except there was this new sun in the sky making everything look like it was the middle of the day, and I remember thinking (in my dream) about what Atlantis said awhile back about Jupiter being turned into a second sun and so I thought something like 'oh that must be Jupiter'. It was a very strange dream and I don't usually remember most of my dreams like a lot of people here do, but I certainly remember that one for some reason.

Andy

Hi Andy, (and all)

That's an interesting take on it........while my dream most likely didn't have to do with Jupiter, you reminded me that I did in fact once have a "dream" about Jupiter being purposely turned into a sun by the infamous "powers that be".    It's what triggered me to go out and rent "2010: The Year We Make Contact".    I had only seen snippets of that movie like once, as a kid, and the only thing I remembered was the image of 2 suns in the sky at the end.   That image always tripped me out.    In my dream, which I had sometime last year, I was being shown the "process" actually taking place.  It was just so WEIRD I tell you, oh my god.....................I was observing or being shown a person lying down on some platform contraption thing that had an upside down U-shaped thing that went over their head.   Something about their mind / energy, I don't know, (or just symbolic of Man in general) being used to instigate "fusion" on Jupiter.    That was the word I clearly heard.    Keep in mind, on a conscious level I have no knowledge of atomic stuff, and I actually had to ask when I woke up what "fusion" was, and was told that Indeed!  that relates to a sun being formed.   It's the atomic process of ignition.    So go figure.   Anyway, what transpired next was like a movie in a way.   It happened in slow motion.   I watched as the explosion, or fusion, took place, watched the orange yellow fire, explosion, the force, what it looked like, watched it expand outward second by second...almost frame by frame, like a movie;    Scene switched to my vantage point out in space, watching Jupiter become a fire ball in slo mo.  Scene switch to floating / flying around in Earth's atmosphere, where for instance satellites and the Space Shuttle orbit, and observing the new glowing Jupiter sun from that vantage point out in space.   

What a "dream" huh?    It was after that when I became interested in the idea of Jupiter as a second sun and Man's possible role in making this artificially happen.   Googled stuff on the 'net, and came up with a bunch of links which discussed the idea of the 2003 Gallileo space probe crash being TPTB's attempts at igniting Jupiter.   Some sites were promoting the conspiracy, others were debunking it.   Also rented the movie "2010" like I said.   What a scene at the end when Jupiter begins collapsing in on itself!!    The best part of the entire movie!    The special effects in that movie were AMAZING considering the time period it was made!  Holy cow, WAY ahead of its time in regards to effects and detail and realistic space footage.  Anyway, all in all it was interesting research.   Still have no clue why in the world I would have had that dream, or if there was any validity to it at all.    Does make one wonder though, huh...?

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lyra wrote:

So I see a direct correlation between waking up and becoming aware and paying attention and questioning your own reality and an increase in ear ringings.   Try not to be discouraged by them....I think if anything, it just means you're on the right track.

Ahhhh, been wondering what the deal is with ear ringing. I myself have this going on, its constant, mainly in my left ear. Sometimes I can also hear it in both ears at the same time. It started about a week ago, and hasn't stopped since, other than sleeping, unless I drown it out with loud music.

This relates to a dream I had about a week ago. Before I went to sleep that evening, I had asked to see the truth regarding Aliens, and what their agenda is. In the dream, I was in my bed with my wife when I woke up inside the dream. I turned to see if she was awake, and instead of my wife being there, my mother took her place. She has been gone now for about ten years. She sat on the end of the bed, we were talking, but not in the conventional way of words. What was relayed was that they in fact were real, and they will be making themselves known to all. I was also told not to trust those that appear to the public first, its a trap, an outright lie. I get the sense that there will be a great deal of chaos in the future. Then I got up from the bed, and my stepfather takes my place,(still living) and I got the feeling like everything that plays out will end up okay, but there are going to be a lot of people that will be hurt in the process.

It was a very strange dream for me, as I hardly ever remember dreams. But I woke immediately after this one, trying to jot down all I could remember. Anyone got any opinions on this dream? I would be interested in hearing them.

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bones2112 wrote:

This relates to a dream I had about a week ago. Before I went to sleep that evening, I had asked to see the truth regarding Aliens, and what their agenda is. In the dream, I was in my bed with my wife when I woke up inside the dream. I turned to see if she was awake, and instead of my wife being there, my mother took her place.

Bones,

There is a very high degree of correlation between aliens, dreams, and ear ringings.  Go to the Noble Realms file area and download the book "Taken;" it's out of print and would cost you $100 or more on the used market.   Read it. 

I have been having disturbing dreams the last couple of nights.  This is extremely irregular for me as I usually remember NO dreams whatsoever.   One of the dreams, which I just had the other night, involved my "mother" being upset with me about a particular decision I had made.  Except, I felt instinctively upon waking up that it was not my really my mother, but something external -- alien -- trying to influence me by controlling my dream.   I think it is a very interesting "coincidence" that you have such a similar set of circumstances (aliens apparently speaking as "mother" of dreaming person) within the same one-week period.

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bones and morningsun,

Hmmm... a friend of mine told me that she also recently had a dream wherein her father (passed) woke her up in a dream and compelled her to go outside of her home. Trusting her father she did so where she found the sky laden with UFO's and four Arcangels who were insisting on communicating with her. She was not comfortable, to say the least, with any of it. In fact, she began her conversation with me by saying that she thought she had gotten "hauled out"/abducted last Sat. evening.

Seems like there could be a push to familiarize folks with aliens through trusted familial relationships by using those images of parents as screen memories.... my observant rhetorical question is--why resort to trickery if the intentions are so good in the first place?

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Auendove wrote:

Seems like there could be a push to familiarize folks with aliens through trusted familial relationships by using those images of parents as screen memories.... my observant rhetorical question is--why resort to trickery if the intentions are so good in the first place?

I have had a lot of similar dreams recently.  Always family members try to convince me of one thing or another...or else they are just present in the dream.  In which is occuring the most oddest of things (I have posted dreams here before).  Oftentimes these are quite undermining...(or sometimes seem to attempt to boost my ego - which ultimatly would only result in me imbeding myself deeply within the Matrix).

I tend to agree with your implications that the trickery belies an agenda not to beneficial for ourselves.  However - I guess we also have to accept the possibility - how often have we used tricks with kids (reverse psycology) to get them to do something that is in their own interests.  Perhaps in some instances it is a case of we are not equiped to understand how or why a thing is ultimatly for our own benefit?

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Auendove and Marcus,

Interesting questions and ideas, without a doubt.    I'm honestly not sure of what to make of it at this point in time.  This seems to be a question of one's ability to distinguish what is spiritually right from what is being externally put into one's mind.  Personally, I'm trying to figure it out but I'm just not there yet. 

I will say this, though:  I have had one other similar event, several months ago, where an apparent alien manipulation occured and it also involved putting the same suggestion in my mind as in the dream the other night.  This earlier manipulation, however, involved me being physically presented with this same idea (among many others) in a respectful manner -- physically, in the waking world.  I synchronistically received a book in the mail which was not the one I ordered, but of a similar title.  (I posted about the event on NR months back when it occured, see that for more details).    However, my actions since then have made it clear that I was not following one particular "piece of advice" contained in the book, and so I believe this subsequent dream manipulation represents a follow-up attempt on the ETs part to get me back in-line with what they want me to do.   Except this time it's not a respectful, physical-world "read this book and see what you think about it."   No, this time it's "let's f*ck with you in your dreams to get you to think our way without you even being conscious of it."  Well, I have a problem with that.

The important point here, to my way of thinking, is that they clearly have the ability to use what we would consider to be normal, respectful, physical means to impart ideas to people.  Therefore, there is no need for them to use more bizarre, secretive, or cunning techniques such as dream manipulation.   It's not as if the only way they can reach us is through our dreams.  No.  When they do so, it's because they want to manipulate our thoughts below the level of consciousness -- period.  They don't want to be bothered trying to "persuade" us logically or otherwise.    Personally, I don't care what their motives are; this way of doing things is abhorrent to me.

Re: Dreams

If the subconscious/HigherSelf can impart lessons in dreams, then so can positive/STO entities, and the Ra Material did suggest that encounters with such usually take place in a disguised manner in dreams so as to preserve freewill through the screen of ambiguity that dreams provide.

However, I think what gives away the negatively manipulated dreams versus the positive ones is that the latter tell you what you what you already know deep down and therefore bring resonance or realization when the dream is deciphered and understood, while the negative dreams use tricks galore to counter your own intuition, experience, and knowledge on the matter, including emotional shock through twisted themes and pushiness that just throw you off balance.

Also, from my own experience, negatively manipulated dreams take no chances with obscure symbolism and instead take the direct route to persuasion with dream characters trying to talk you into adopting some decision or point of view, and if that doesn't work then maybe horrible dreams of the worst consequences you can imagine for not following such orders.

For example, when I began collecting notes on the Human Simulacra subject in preparation for writing, I had a several dreams in which hostile government people were chasing, interrogating, and threatening me over the consequences of doing so. These dreams dragged out through the night, contained no symbolic elements, and focused entirely on instilling fear and doubt in me through chase scenarios and lengthy arguments with the interrogators. It's the persistence and desparation in these dreams that convinced me it wasn't a figment of subconscious fears. I did wake up frazzled and for a minute had doubts about going ahead with the article because others seem to have gotten killed/replaced for researching this subject, but I realized a bit later that the dreams had all the signs of a disinformation and so I therefore decided to double my efforts instead. Obviously I'm still here and real, so that dream was bullshit all the way.

These, in constrast to fun "training" or "revelatory" dreams from which I awake with new realizations, clarity, energy, and understanding.

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Had another of my revelatory dream messages the other morning, thought I'd pass it along.   I get these type of revelatory message dreams usually just before waking, as my consciousness is creeping back to the surface again.    They're not always good, happy New Age stuff, but they're always interesting.

Because of my recent heavy focus on the way in which reality lines up, and the way symbolisms play themselves out as evidenced over on the Goro site, my dream was "in answer" to that.  I had been wondering over and over "HOW does this happen??  HOW?   HOW do things line up the way they do??? I don't get it!"


Well, something answered that the other morning.   Hold on to your seat, because it's not pretty, but interestingly enough, it does match up in many ways to a dream message that Montalk was given a few weeks ago, which he pointed out to me. 

Basically, ever hear of the term "Alien Ant Farm" ?   (no, not the band on MTV  wink  )   Yeah, well, that's what we are in a nutshell, I was told.   There was some voice talking to me, couldn't tell you the source.  It sounded male, and it sounded amused.  I can't say it was "human" really.  I don't know who / what it was.  It was like a telepathic communication from some place, some source.   I don't remember the exact beginning of the "dream", but what I do remember transpired like this:

(me wondering how reality lines up and how symbolisms play out, "as above, so below.")

Me being shown the idea of an ant farm.    Being given the analogy that this is us.   Earth is one big experiment like this, and it's being controlled by something so huge and big and beyond us that we can't see it or comprehend it from our little perspective.    The ants in an ant farm have an entire society, with roles that each ant plays, serving the Queen Ant, living out their lives, doing their thing, and they have no idea that they exist in an "ant farm" that was bought for and controlled by something called a "Human" for the human's amusement and "educational" purposes, nor do they understand the world that these Humans occupy outside the little enclosed ant farm plexiglass.   But in the same way those humans hold the ultimate power over that ant farm and control the weird "happenings" that the ants experience, the same is done to us by the higher forces we can't see, but whose evidence is all around us, every day.   It was conveyed to me that the synchronciities and patterns and stuff lining up is all a result of those "ant farm controllers".   We're just unable to see it or understand it from our 3rd density perspective.   Again, the feeling of the source telling me this was amused. 

I saw the ant farm tunnels and ants running to and fro, doing their thing, and had this crushing feeling when I realized what was being conveyed to me.   At first I was like, "oh my god....we're no better than an ant farm!!!!" 

Then the "voice" source said to me calmly, amused, "Do the creatures that humans take care of in their cages and tanks develop sentience and individual personality?"

"They sure do, yup," I nodded emphatically.  (that's exactly how I responded too, it was funny.)   I thought of all the various pets and critters and creatures I've come into contact with over my life.  They do have personalities, sentience, emotions, and the ones who interact with humans get even stronger in that regard.

"Well, humans do too."   The "telepathic" meessage conveyed was that despite humans being akin to an "ant farm", (most) have developed souls and sentience while running amok in the "experiment."

After that it begins to fade out and end, don't really remember much else.   I was left with the feeling that whoever this source was, they were......pleased with their own power?   Amused and pleased to be a part of something that even the smartest humans can't detect or fully understand?   It's hard to explain.   But that's why I keep emphasizing "amused".   It was actually really no different than the mentality most humans would have in dealing with an insect ant farm.    Most people would probably get a kick out of knowing that ants in an ant farm DO detect "something bigger" going on around them outside the farm, and are always confused about what it is, scratching their little ant heads.   Admit it....most people would.    Why would we feel delight in it?   I don't know.  But we would.   Well "they" do too. 

Anyway, that was that.   But it really is a fractal when you think about it.   We have stuff that we're above that we exercise our control over, much to the confusion of those helpless (but sentient) little creatures, and in turn, there are those above us, reveling in their own power over us, getting a kick out of *our* confusion with the ways in which that higher stuff manifests in our 3D reality.    And in turn, there's stuff above THEM.    And that's what made me feel better after I awoke and thought about it.   They're not at the top of the heap, and in the end, there's only the Creator Source.  I had my little vision of the Creator Source several years ago, and how all of us, every manifestation of life, is out there experiencing life on behalf of the Source.   And so I hold on to that.

Anyway, it's nothing that profound I guess, nothing that most NR's probably don't already know, I just thought it was trippy that I was shown this.  Just the way it was done was interesting.

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I had a very bizarre dream last night, which is relevant to the topics discussed here at NR. It was just so strange though, that I couldn't believe it. Here's how it went...

Basically, the part I remember is being shown two scenarios in which events happened and then the memories of them were erased from my mind. In the first scene, I was abducted -- well not really abducted, but that was the feeling it had -- I was somehow coerced or convinced to invite two people back to my home after work one day. One was a woman and one was a man, both of whom I worked with at a job 2 years ago. At one point I looked into the woman's eyes, and I was being 'programmed' or somehow my mind was being adjusted for something. I was silently instructed via her eyes again to "forget this happened." The two then left my home and I did not thereafter recall the incident. Very creepy.

The second scenario was one where I saw a UFO (I have to this day not seen any UFOs in waking life, at least that I remember). I was explaining to some random guy exactly what the craft looked like. It was a silver triangle with rounded corners, with three orange-red lights, one on each corner. As I was recalling this to the person the guy was -- this is hard to describe -- he was denying and doubting what I saw and at the same time that doubt was like a force exerted on my mind willing me to "forget I saw it." I don't really know the location where this part of the dream took place but it appeared to be some sort of office building. This 2nd scenario was not as creepy as the first but it just seemed very "odd" that this guy was not believing my story and somehow forcing me to forget it.

Now, what do I think about this. First, the woman in the first part was actually in another dream I had while working with her, which I believed at the time to be a cover for an abduction of some sort (I never mentioned the dream to her). Second, the whole feeling of the dream was very surreal. Throughout the dream I knew was I asleep and dreaming! It felt like what I was seeing was very close to or reflective of actual events that happened to me, and that my mind or my higher self was just saying, "hey, look at this. this might have happened. look here, look at these memories. where did they come from?" I could have sworn these were actual erased memories while I was in the dream. Besides the scenarios themselves, the "vibe" of the dream wasn't really negative, it was more a feeling of warning or caution... to be careful about something. I felt like I was being warned that something very close to these two scenarios really happened or may happen in the future.

What do you guys think of this?

101 (edited by morningsun76 2005-04-05 01:49:13)

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Reading over this thread, I find quite interesting the fact that a whole lot of alien appearances are being made lately in our dreams.   

"Hello," said Arthur, "something seems to be happening."
   -- The Hitchhiker's Guide

wynderer wrote:

I have learned with astral attacks to look and see where my weakness was--in this case, my pattern of being "nice" (a pattern I am learning to break).

I had a similar astral attack, or unusually intense dream perhaps, a few months ago.   I was in the midst of getting ready to move, and had a whole lot of different things going on in my life, a general chaos of sorts.  One morning I awoke from experiencing my life essence being sucked out by leeches which were all over my body.  I recognized immediately, intuitively, what it meant.  I was being far too free with my time, giving it freely to other people and allowing too many distractions to come into my life at a time when I had things to do.   In the end I'm not sure whether to characterize that as an attack or not, or whether it's simply a message from a higher source helping me to get back on track; I tend to think it was the latter.

It seems like these are especially good days to be paying attention to what's going on around us, especially in the subtler realms ...

102 (edited by Auendove 2005-04-05 06:37:33)

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morningsun76 wrote:

One morning I awoke from experiencing my life essence being sucked out by leeches which were all over my body.  I recognized immediately, intuitively, what it meant.  I was being far too free with my time, giving it freely to other people and allowing too many distractions to come into my life at a time when I had things to do.

Oh how funny morningsun! I just got off the phone with another NR member and we were talking about this very same thing wink .

I used to expend a good amount of my energy praying for humanity, spending much time utterring Kwan Yin mantras for the sake of mankind to get some compassion, and therefore ignoring myself.

I finally got to a point where I thought it was best to work on me more than anything else because the intuited prospect of going down with a "sinking ship", like a flippin' martyr, was unexceptable. I had intuited that I had a choice, and I chose me... I chose my soul evolution. I stopped praying for humanity and started really dealing with my own kwap, and what I found was my own lack of compassion.

Gosh, you know, it still makes me feel a little guilty that I concentrated on myself, I feel like I sound heartless... heavy sigh, in the end I overcome that residual guilt because I know that thinking I can change a world of people intimates that I actually have any control over the actions and choices of another. And plain and simple... I don't.

lol And anyway, I'm too well trained of a swimmer to allow myself to drown.

cool

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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i had a dream that i was awake.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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zonabi wrote:

i had a dream that i was awake.

cool

Soooooooo... ummmmm, you gonna tell us what is like to be awake z? wink

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

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errr sorry sometimes i am compelled to type one-liners

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'