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woah!

just the other night (maybe last night) i had a dream, although i cannot remember it much:

all i remember is that i was like, sitting in a classroom i guess, because someone (teacher) was writing things on a chalkboard (a old school green chalkboard).

for the life of me i cannot remember what he/she wrote on the board, but i remember that i could not understand the concept, like the teacher kept trying to explain it to me, pointing at it... etc... but i guess i didnt understand it.

blasted! i want to know what the chalkboard said!!

z

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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Zonabi (and maybe elvis), FYI the book I just posted in the links section "The Secret War" talks about these sorts of dreams; the author calls them "night school."

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elvisalpha wrote:

I had to explain to them that they can do it just like me because the wall isn't what it seems; it is actually made of atoms between which there is empty space.

This crossed my mind, because that means everything is mostly empty.  Is it a lesson on bending reality?  Plus, it is thought by some that the foundation of everything is thought, which means that perhaps what things are mostly thought.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

64 (edited by emmanuelgoldstein 2005-02-01 18:07:19)

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yeah haven,
and thoughts are vibrations.

i had similar experiences, dreams where i had to learn
in wich i experienced telekinesy and time travel.

i'm still not sure wheter these experiences happen to give us motivation to study,
or are just plain old dreams....

...but the first reason is appealing,
what do you think??

MIND YOUR SOUL

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I think the thing that one has to learn is to KNOW these things, not just assume or pretend, or to force yourself into seeing reality a certain way.  "It is the will of the spoon you must bend."

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

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hmmm.... sorry i didn.t express myself correctly..

MIND YOUR SOUL

67 (edited by lyra 2005-02-02 14:58:53)

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Thought I'd resurrect this thread because I have been having some majorly WEIRD, outright negative dreams this week.  Last night's takes the cake though.  It went from being horror-movie creepy to suddenly spinning off into aliens and possible suppressed abduction memories.  Just trippy.   It started out weird from the beginning, but just got progressively darker and darker, very quickly.

I'll just try to summarize it in a nutshell:   There was a helicopter crashing under a bridge;  then scene switch to my old house in CT where I grew up as a kid, which is where the rest of the dream took place --  me discussing all the recent train derailments and how they're all being done on purpose -- which led to an ear ringing in my right ear, loud in clear, in the dream -- then there was a coffin with a "dead" old guy with white hair in it, recently dead, but not fully dead, and I was pushing the coffin around trying to rearrange it, then I had to climb inside the coffin to rearrange the guy inside, and I was like, "oh my god, I HATE coffins!!  I HATE these things, they're so GROSS!   Ew, those satin pillows, that's so NASTY!"  Was just getting all squeamish about it, and the corpse, and how these coffins are all fancy and satiny just to house some corpse that's going to get all rotten and nasty.  The old guy wasn't actually dead though, which is why I put dead in quotes.  His skin and stuff looked dead, but yet he was still alive, and smiling, but with his mouth hanging open in a dumb grin and his eyes staring up at the ceiling.  I wondered to myself why they hadn't stitched his eyes closed.....Scene switch to where I discovered that the weird speckled puke green colored rose that was outside the coffin as a decoration was actually made from dead people....right then all the lights went out in the house and I jumped up to flick the light switch on the wall back on, flipping it on off on off, but nothing happened.  Tried the switch next to it, but nothing.  I ran into the bathroom that was right off the bedroom and tried that switch, but still nothing.  No lights.   Left in the darkness.    I kept saying out loud, "ohhh nooooooooooooo!"  kind of joking, but not really, realizing that "they" had arrived, and they'd killed the power -  their standard mode of operation.    Kill the lights, then swoop in.   I ran down the darkened hallway still saying to myself, "ohhh noooooooo!" joking but yet feeling fear, and threw open the door that led down a flight of stairs to the livingroom, and sure enough, I saw the silhouette of an alien rapidly climbing up the stairs, very stealth.     This is where it just got very dark, (as if the rest of the dream wasn't dark enough!)   

This thing had a bald head and very long, skinny arms that were probably twice the length of a human's.   He moved as if crouched down while climbing the stairs very quickly, with those long skinny arms sticking out.....imagine Gollum, from Lord of the Rings....something very similar to that, but more sinister, because this was "real", and looked like an alien.  Sleek, thin, and stealth, almost insect-like I guess you could say.   I couldn't see any facial features because it was too dark.  But there was just enough light to make out the silhouette rapidly approaching up the stairs, which is actually more creepy then seeing something in bright light.  But you can mimic what I'm talking about - bend your knees so you're crouched, then see what it would be like to rapidly climb stairs in the crouch, being stealth, with your arms moving to help you along.  Just the way this thing moved...and only seeing the silhouette....VERY creepy.

I stood there, feeling panic at first watching him rapidly approach up the stairs towards me to come "get" me, and instead of freezing in paralysis, or turning to run, I instead just hurled myself straight at him, down the stairs.  I knew I couldn't outrun him, you can't hide.   So if I was going down, then he was too.    The very last part of the dream was me lightly bumping into him as I fell down through the air, down the stairs, then him disappearing as I continued to fall.   I was now faced back towards the door at the top of the stairs, and my very last thought as I fell was,  "i bet something like this happened to me when I was a kid, where i was abducted at night in the house just like this, but i just don't remember it......."

Then I woke up, all my nerves standing on end, my heart racing.

Edit:     Adding this as well:    I also had a "fear extraction" dream last week, where something "came around" and hijacked one of my dreams so it suddenly took a dark and sinister turn.   In the middle of the dream my eyes flew wide open - the same way if there was a person in the room standing over you watching you and you were able to sense that and wake up - and I saw some kind of weird entity thing hovering over me which pulled back in surprise when my eyes flew open.   It was shaped like a little sun, with wavy "rays" around it, really weird I know.   But it pulled back and up and away from me and retreated up to the darkest corner of the room, to my left, which I thought was interesting.    Says to me that it was a real entity.   They usually don't like light.  (we have 2 night lights on in the room, and it avoided the areas that were lit with the nightlights.)    I just laid there, thinking that I should feel fear, but yet didn't, I was just riveted mostly and watched with intrigue to see what this thing would do now that it had been busted.   It retreated up to the dark corner then faded away....

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Scary stuff.  I wouldn't be surprised.. it sounds like that dream could have been a suppressed memory starting to bubble up to the surface.  I've been wondering lately myself what sort of things may be "buried deep" as I'm realizing lately so many of the signs in my own life, other than actual craft sightings or encounters.   A lot of these things may be so traumatic that we can't really remember them for a long time, until we've reached a certain level of psychological readiness, and then they start to show up in one form or another, including through dreams in some cases.

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lyra, I hate to be the one to suggest this, but perhaps that WAS a cover for an abduction, and your subconscious knows that you can't fight against their will anymore. I'm not implying that you're mentally weak or not strong-willed but that your own will isn't strong enough to overcome the aliens' intentions to abduct you or at least interact with you in some way. Thus you had that desperate last minute backlash just to show them you're not going without a fight. If it wasn't a cover for actual abduction then it may have just been your mind trying to give you that message, that you won't go without a fight when they do try to take you.

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seeker wrote:

lyra, I hate to be the one to suggest this, but perhaps that WAS a cover for an abduction, and your subconscious knows that you can't fight against their will anymore.

Or it could have merely been an attempted abduction mixed with a memory of a past abduction.  It's hard to say for sure.  And I do not think that it is a matter of 'fighting against' their will, nor do I believe STS's will is stronger than ours, especially Lyra's smile .  Stay strong Lyra!

Kathy

Never Give Up!

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Hi everybody - thanks for the feedback and ideas, I appreciate the different theories and will ponder the possibilities.   I know there's SOMETHING going on with this dream, it's not "just a dream", it's just a matter of figuring it out.    Interestingly enough, when I think about the bald head of the insect-like alien that was coming up the stairs I remember the round bed posts on my bed as a kid..........which I was terrified of!   When I was really little, like 3 and 4, I used to get hysterical and scream and cry about "the woodens!  the woodens!!!"   That was what I named the bed posts.   I didn't see bed posts when I looked at them, I saw round (bald) heads and it scared the crap out of me.   My dad reminded me about this a couple of years ago when I broached the abduction topic with him, and his military background, trying to get answers.    He said he "wondered" about my terror of the bedposts.   Seemed a little odd, to say the least......makes me wonder......

morningsun76, I really liked your idea of suppressed memories coming out when we're psychologically ready to handle them.   I've been dismissive for the past couple of years of any potential personal involvement in alien abductions.     But since reading the Karla Turner book, I've had second thoughts, and I'm definitely at a stronger place mentally and psychologically in life then I've ever been before.    I've been able to tackle the world of 3D head on and fearlessly in life...but it's taken YEARS to build immunity to fear regarding the paranormal and any supressed memories.   Slowly but surely I've gotten stronger.   So maybe this dream is representative of that.   I mean hell, I threw myself right at the f***** in my dream!    big_smile    Like Come on!  Let's go!   big_smile     Could also be a masked abduction attempt mixed with real memories, like freeme said too.   But I really hope it's not what seeker suggests...my mind giving me a message that I can't fight them anymore!    yikes.   I can fight them...just raise my frequency......

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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72 (edited by morningsun76 2005-02-02 20:18:35)

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Lyra, I've always been interested in the subject, but also very dismissive of the idea of any personal involvement.  The Turner book, for me too, sparked two specific probable-UFO-related memories, the serious ear-ringing incident a few days ago which occured while writing an e-mail about that very book (!), a few subsequent, milder mutings, and probably my sleep paralysis with bonus weird dream the other night  (all of which I've mentioned elsewhere on NR). 

So, in the course of I guess a week, maybe two, I've gone from doubting the idea of actual personal involvement to feeling that it's a very high probablity that I HAVE had encounters.  At this point I'd say I'd be a bit surprised if I didn't.   

I'm definitely finding myself getting less fearful and more aggressive in my attitude towards the possibility of intrusive ET monitoring / abductions.  Instead of getting the chills, I'm now swearing out loud at them to get the hell away.  The left-ear-mutings keep coming back, including another couple of faint ones during the time it took to write this post, but it seems that "holding the frequency" and not giving them any loosh (especially fear) does seem to be a worthwhile thing to keep in mind.   Also, for what it's worth, the mutings seem to be occuring about 80-90% while I'm at the computer reading (or especially posting) on Noble Realms.   I'm not sure if constantly publishing my experiences will do much to stop them from occurring, or progressing as they seem to be, but it's rewarding and even fun to share the stories and be able to confirm details with others who have similar crazy things to tell.    If there's anything to "The Allies of Humanity" material, then this sort of online networking does seem to be a heck of a good way to start a resistance of sorts, and that would explain why monitoring would be more intense for users of this forum or similar venues.

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Hi morningsun,


morningsun76 wrote:

I'm not sure if constantly publishing my experiences will do much to stop them from occurring, or progressing as they seem to be, but it's rewarding and even fun to share the stories and be able to confirm details with others who have similar crazy things to tell.    If there's anything to "The Allies of Humanity" material, then this sort of online networking does seem to be a heck of a good way to start a resistance of sorts, and that would explain why monitoring would be more intense for users of this forum or similar venues.

That's awesome....!   I totally agree with you about online networking.  I do think that publishing your experiences....or at least keeping a private log book to document things you remember for your own personal use......does help a HUGE deal.   It acknowledges that there's something worth investigating - as Karla Turner noted, many abductees have this interesting habit of just passively dismissing the most crazy experiences and then moving on as if they never happened - so a personal log book or public documentation helps combat that phenomenon.   I've DEFINITELY had this, too many times to count.    And like you said it is rewarding and fun.   I admit, I LOVE putting my stuff "out there" on this forum, I just love it.  I know that people are reading it, there are people who are going to relate, it's going to trigger stuff, and cause a chain reaction, and that's good.   !  It's exactly what they don't want.   So I'm there!   big_smile   

Your increase in ear ringings and mutings is REALLY interesting as well.   I can say that when I started finally paying attention to stuff in the summer / fall of 2002, that's when my ear ringings increased a hundredfold.   I was just getting them all the time then.   So I see a direct correlation between waking up and becoming aware and paying attention and questioning your own reality and an increase in ear ringings.   Try not to be discouraged by them....I think if anything, it just means you're on the right track.   They can't keep you in the dark forever, right?   If you do indeed have stuff going on, you're going to have to find out sooner or later whether they like it or not.   And that's when it'll be "the right book at the right time" or the right website, or the right messageboard forum, or whatever the case may be.

Like you I used to doubt personal involvement with aliens...because I didn't have any actual memories of "aliens."   I'd only had about 3 or 4 "dreams" about UFO's.  (getting back to the whole dreams thing... )    I've had several "dreams" about seeing a UFO take off, in broad daylight -- leaving without me -- to which I would freak out and begin chasing after it, hysterically, wanting desparately to go with it.   Just hysterical that it was leaving, without me.    This scenario appears in the Karla Turner book actually, I was a little surprised to see that.    Finally the UFO would always relent in these "dreams" and I would find myself being lifted up into the air, pulled in to the UFO, feeling myself suspended in mid air, lifting higher and higher off the ground, in a state of total bliss.   

I had another bizarre "alien" "dream" in 2002.  I'd just moved to Florida, my very first week in fact while I was still in the motel before I got my apartment.   I had a dream early one morning in the motel - there was a black background, and an illuminated rainbow.  It looked lit from within, just this big glowing, illuminated rainbow.  Then, two UFOs appeared in the field of view, one on each side, and they decended down as if to land.   Then my field of view was filled with various "Gray" faces.    They all looked the same, yet I could distinguish each one somehow, don't ask me how.   I had THE most intense urge I've ever had to get out of my body.  I've never felt anything like it.  I was straining with all my might to yank myself out of my body and get to those Grays.  With everything I had I pulled upwards towards them.   I made it halfway out of my body and that's right when my cat became alarmed, meowed, and ran to me from across the room, jumped on the bed, jumped on my chest and got right up in my face, meowing, concerned.    Because she did that I snapped to my senses and woke up and fell back into my body.   I just laid there for a few seconds, confused, like WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!?!?   My cat was still with me, concerned, looking at me like "are you OKAY??"  smile  Kinda cute.   

But other than that, I had no reason to suspect actual "alien" abductions.   wink  wink   Actually, my focus has been soley on MILAB stuff for the past 2 years, and then with the one memory I do have of an abduction in 2001 where I saw myself surrounded by Grays, I was told by the C's that it was actually a military abduction screen memory.   So as far as I was concerned, I just had MILAB stuff going on.  I DO remember 2 "dreams" as a kid of a HIGHLY suspicious nature...but which involved people.   Not aliens.   Humans in white coats.    But now I'm rethinking things.   Actually, I was told by my brother who was told by um, a "special source" wink that I was indeed abducted as a kid, and not by humans.   But who knows.   But I'm trying to get to the bottom of it all.   Keep searching, is all I can recommend to anyone.    If you want, email me, you have my email address.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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morningsun76 wrote:

If there's anything to "The Allies of Humanity" material, then this sort of online networking does seem to be a heck of a good way to start a resistance of sorts, and that would explain why monitoring would be more intense for users of this forum or similar venues.

Right on!  We have a lot of energy in us to fight and progress, but much of it can be wasted in being wishy washy or uncertain. Notice how once you finally figure out something for sure, you get a surge of energy to act on it. So toward that end, I think it's the sharing of experiences and comparing notes that can increase our certainty in what we already know deep down but consciously can only theorize and debate until the evidence finally kicks us in the head. In the end this increases faith  in our own abilities and there leads to an increase in power.  So as long as we are kept in irrational doubt, we'll remain disempowered.

As for the ear ringings and mutings, if those are signs of monitoring (could be something else, but let's assume for the moment it's monitoring) then being creatures of strategy, whoever is doing this is gathering intel to frame the next move, which could be anything from abduction and programming to the insertion of a custom-taylored disinfo puppet, or a synergistic combination of both. At least, that's what I have found from experience based on certain types of ear ringing correlating with those.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

75 (edited by seeker 2005-02-04 15:12:04)

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Last night I had an interesting dream... I was being taught by someone or some thing, about who we are. I was told that nearly everything that we define ourselves by, everything that makes me "me" and you "you", is merely the ego, which is temporal and ephemeral, formed by genetics and outside influences. The only thing that defines our individuality, or the illusion of it anyway, is our "level" of consciousness, or our vibration. I sort of already knew this from reading channeled books, but it was suddenly very simple and apparent to me for the first time. Here's the gist of it....

"You" are only your consciousness. "You" are defined by the ability to hold a certain vibration, which entails both inward effects and outward effects. The inward effects are our common thought patterns -- the way you think about things. Each and every person thinks and perceives reality in at least a slightly different way. These thought patterns are a summation of all your experiences. Your experiences determine your thought patterns, but also, vice versa. The outward effect is that your thoughts give off a vibration -- no, that's not the right way to put it... you ARE the vibration, if you understand my meaning. You are just consciousness, which is in essence, a vibration. This vibration determines your outer perception, and this is why we "fit" into certain levels of reality, a la density levels. It's not a process, it's simply a natural state of being, like how a radio tuned to a certain wavelength will pick up only a certain radio station. That's just how it works.

There was a really important point that seemed to stick out in this dream-information though, which is what I was "told" to relay here at NR: Your ability to hold certain thoughts, are a very personal thing, and not everyone is comfortable holding the same thoughts within themselves. This defines who you are, and "where" you are. For example, the notion that everything is actually One Being. Some people can hold this thought comfortably, due to experience or knowledge they have. Others can't imagine such a thing. It makes them feel very uncomfortable. This ability to hold certain thoughts comfortably, is your vibration, and is you. This is what defines you. Don't take this for granted, because it's what you are.