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Re: Dreams

Natural Mystic wrote:

...  I was listening to some audio files of Alan Watts, so when I was falling asleep his words started to "shapeshift" and I heard some one speak to me, and I heard "I am the watchmen, I have come to watch over you so you never have to be alone." ....

So I am wondering if anyone knows anything about references to a "Watchman/Watchmen" or if it was some negative entity trying to pull something off.  Thanks.

Natural Mystic, in my opinion these Watchman are no good idea. If this was an invitation, don't buy it. They try to get into a "vulnerable spot", a piece of your shadow, which maybe is about feeling alone, that i don't know.

"I've had a traumatic youth.
My father drank.


And my mother ate."                                       

Kama

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Thanks for your time Mystic. The dream has propelled me in the direction of the Archons and the 'Double'. The Archons, afaik, were said to communicate telepathically with humans to throw them off their 'path'. And the double, there is some information at kheper.net about that

"Violence solves everything. If it's not solving your problems, you aren't using enough of it."

273 (edited by Lemniscate 2006-05-15 19:37:09)

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I had a weird dream last night, which some of you can relate to.

I was in this building, like a department store. I was standing on a platform, trying to step down off it. Two kids, a girl and a boy, were riding bicycles in front of me, keeping me from stepping down. I didn't want to knock them off their bikes, so I was being careful not to, while trying to find a place (which I finally found an opening) to step down.

As I did, the little boy (blonde hair and blue eyes) said, without looking at me, "I can see people's dreams [and search their memories]." I'm not sure about the part in brackets, that seemed to come out more as I was waking up.

After he said this, he looked up at me with a horrified look and said (possibly telepathically), "How did you hear that?!" (as if I wasn't supposed to...) The little boy then morphed into a hideous creature, of approximately the same size.

I think that perusing this forum and reading related materials has made me more aware, to the point that these "dream programs" are no longer working.

Addendum: I just checked out dreammoods.com, and this is what it said about parts of the dream:

[Standing

To dream that you are standing, suggests that you are asserting yourself and making your thoughts/feelings known.]

[To dream that you are watching children but they do not know you are there, is a metaphor for some hidden knowledge or some latent talent which you have failed to recognize.]


I then was transferred to a different dream, in which I had just been hired by Eli Lilly (a major drug company) as a fireman on the company's internal fire department. I was trying to get into the building, because if I didn't, then I wouldn't get fully hired.

I finally made it into the building, searching around for something in the different departments. Here's where it gets unique: wherever I would go, I could turn lights on in that area almost immediately. In previous dreams of years past, either I had a really hard time turning lights on, or they wouldn't come on at all.

At that point I woke up.

[dreammoods.com mentions that fire indicates "transformation", which sounds right on]

[Fire Fighters

To see a fire fighter in your dream, represents your higher Self. You are experiencing a period of cleansing and purification.]


Now, what's even weirder, is that there was a dream synch: Today I saw one of Eli Lilly's trucks downtown. That's not a common experience . . . they're rarely seen.  I remember discussing this with a coworker some time ago, and the subject came up that hardly anyone knows what they're transporting . . . yet.

Magis Amica Veritas

I would rather control myself, than someone else.

en courage (heart)
in spire (spirit)
en thuse (theos)

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Update on the "Bush dream" (where he's selling an arthritis drug):

I was led to post this dream. As I started typing it, I "heard" this voice say, "If he does, he'll change the timeline." Yet I sensed it would be for the better.

After I had posted it (it was at the end of the work day), I was motivated to check my checking account online. To my dismay, I found out that I was in the negative (by about $1). I was pissed off at first, thinking that maybe if I hadn't posted that dream, tptb would not have messed with me. Then I realized that had I NOT posted the dream, I wouldn't have been motivated to check on my account, and I was going to visit two stores on the way home, so I would have had even more fees as a result of using my debit card.

So, the timeline was changed. Just how much, I'm not sure . . .

Magis Amica Veritas

I would rather control myself, than someone else.

en courage (heart)
in spire (spirit)
en thuse (theos)

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pocketable-L wrote:

Natural Mystic, in my opinion these Watchman are no good idea. If this was an invitation, don't buy it. They try to get into a "vulnerable spot", a piece of your shadow, which maybe is about feeling alone, that i don't know.

Yea I agree.  It was a weird experience, and after reading montalk's article on the moon, and how the densities are closer together allowing easier movement... I decided that something was up, and then proceeded to set some boundries.

Thanks for your input.

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun

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Hello.  smile I had something happen to me last night. I am thinking that my experience last night is pretty much tantamount to my first concious 'contact' with the benevolents. Yesterday I read a page called Change your World that was linked here at NR about how the benevolents need our concious decision in order to intervene and decided that it would be nice to write a song welcoming them. In all seriousness I did this.

HookeyDokey. Here's what happened to me last night. First I ate a footlong Italian BMT around 10:45/11 and must have went to bed at about 11:30/11:45. I must have been in 'twilight' sleep for about 45 minutes or so when I recieved a 'communication' (a concious knowing) and what it was telling me was to stand up. I wasn't dreaming. When I first 'broke out' of the twilight sleep, I looked at the clock and it was 12:28. I knew that it was telling me to get up off of the couch and stand up. And I also 'knew' that the reason for this request had something to do with my concious decision or invitation for 'them' (the benevolents who would apparently be waiting for our invitation) to come here AND/OR for 'them' to take me away. And it was also in combination with strong waves of energy throughout my body.

I did not stand up. Instead, what I did was conciously communicate (think towards them) that me standing up was not actually necessary. That they already know the answer they were seeking. And that it was in the affirmative meaning that I was in favour of them arriving here on Earth for the purpose of helping heal and assist in the coming transition. I did not necessarily answer in the affirmative that I wanted them to take me away. I don't think I even thought about wanting to leave at the time. But I was communicating that I was in favour of their 'assistance' to all of us here now.

So then I went back to sleep.

I was sleeping on my back in the same position I was in when I fell asleep - legs not crossed, with my arms up above my head and hands both behind my head, laying my head on my palms - on top of my blanket, not underneath it.

I must have quickly went into a fairly deep dreamstate because when I woke up at around 2:08, I remembered a dream I was just then having and it seemed very vivid and pretty long. When I woke up, I was feeling _very_ strong waves of energy in every part of my body. The energy was flowing very fluidly throughout every part of my body. It was powerful, 'tingly', and was even penetrating my very 'core' right around my heart area. Not only was energy flowing up and down by body but I was also feeling different 'darts' or 'shots' of energy which were horizontal (or purpendicular to my spine) coming from the left side of my body. They were just like 'shooting' randomly across very rapidly around my torso area. Also, when I woke up, the blood circulation had apparently been very slowly cut off from my left arm because of the position I had been in but it didn't necessarily have any negative effect that I can see. I just moved my arm back down when I woke up and continued to feel these powerful waves of energy surge through me.

And, when I woke up I felt a presence in the room with me. Actually I felt the presence of more than one entity. For a minute I just layed there feeling the waves and remembering the dream I had just woken up from.

Here's the dream -

It was apparently a house party in a house, two story house I think but possibly with a basement/lounge area as well, and the partygoers were all like my friends in the dream but I can't place them (in real life). Everyone was drinking beers and generally having a good time talking and even getting a little wild. I can distinctly remember the first level in the house where we were all partying at first - there was a nice open kitchen area, living, den and it was very brightly lighted like as if all the lights in the house were on. Now, I was just 'mingling' and whatnot and then there was this blonde girl who showed up. Short/average length hair and fairly thin. Around my age, I guess, and she greeted me by reaching around me and grabbing my ass really hard with her hand! Like as hard as she could. I remember thinking this to be only slightly strange - it didn't upset me at all - but after that we didn't talk, she just like did that and then went on about her mingling! So later I remember being in the kitchen with my beer in hand, standing by the sink. Others were around just talking and whatnot. Then I went and dropped/spilled my beer in a strange/goofy/discombobulated sort of way - as if I had lost my balance and ended up turning the beer completely upside down before droping it in the soapy sink water. Everyone noticed and made a small spectacle of it, laughing, and as I began to clean it up, the blonde girl comes over to me and casually grabs my ass really hard again!! So as to sort of 'add insult to injury'. And then she ran off again like she did before!

Anyway, next thing I know everyone had decided to order some food to be delivered, so they did that and everyone was to pitch in to pay for the food delivery. I think some of the people must have left and the rest of them went to another level (basement lounge) to talk and wait for the food to arrive. Funny thing is that I can't figure whether they went upstairs or down! I think it was that they had gone upstairs but that route had somehow led them to the basement! Anyway, I didn't go with them, I knew they were all in there - they were talking LOUDLY and having a good time but I stayed at the other level in the living room/kitchen/dining area because I think I was supposed to greet the delivery guy and pay him or something else that I was responsible for. And so I kept walking around in a circle down there around and in and out of the dining and living areas - I think I may have been preparing or making sure I had all the money for the delivery.

That's when they all called for me from the room they were in. They were _all_ yelling in unison, "PHHOOOOONNEE!!!", to tell me I had a telephone call! And I didn't hear them at first so they just kept repeatedly yelling at me from the room they were in (upstairs) and I finally heard them and so I went upstairs and around a short corner to where they were and as I went up the stairs I yelled out a mimicry of the funny sound they all made yelling for me, "AAEEEEAAHHOONNNEE!!!" so as to acknowledge that I heard them and was coming to them. When I got to the room they had the phone waiting for me on the floor right in front of the door inside the room and so I slid down onto the floor, took the phone and answered, "helloo?"

It was my mother. My real life mother. And she was very calm and sincere asking me whether I wanted her to come pick me up. She spoke only about three sentences very softly and but seriously asking me whether I wanted her to come get me and take me away. I thought this to be perculiar and even a bit strange, wondering why I would need to be picked up at that time. So I told her that, "no", I didn't feel like I needed to be picked up at that time.

Then I sat down with the others (around five or six people) in the room and began to listen to their conversation amongst themselves. One of the people sitting on the couch was Robin Williams (the actor). And so he, and another of the guys was having a conversation about foods they like and they touched apon the topic of crackers. Then they both had a significant match of interests about how they both enjoyed eating crackers very much. Robin Williams brought up about how he absolutely LOVED these Kebler crackers that you can buy from a snack machine and how that particular snack machine actually had three different Kebler brand crackers available. He was describing these three different kinds - the second one being 'Kebler Selects' and the third being a special flavoured cracker.

And then, as I was sitting and watching them all, Robin Williams just up and vanished into thin air as if he were a hologram that had just been turned off!! And the guy he was talking to about crackers was left just staring at an empty space on the couch!! And I'm not sure but I don't think the others in the room took this as being a normal occurance. It was like straight out of 'Quantum Leap' or something. He was just gone, just like that.

And then I woke up and it was 2:08.

Does anyone think I may have made the wrong decision by not standing up? What are your thoughts?

I am as is Void.

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This is absolutely CONGRUENT with my dream-experiences in the Subjective dimension.

Yeah!  I had one dream in which a bunch of us were in a line, marching into one restaurant after another, experiencing the fragrant and beauty of long lines of buffet tables of steaming foods, but never eating one bite of it ... just proceeding to the next restaurant.

I have another dream of "redecorating" a hotel for the Owner, who was a very dignified Black Woman, and observing room after room of expansive, impersonal architecture.  I suggested to her that she ought to be make her hotel "more intimate."

I had another dream of shopping for an apartment; and the one I found that was interesting was in the shape of a "wheel."

I had another dream of sharing a meal with my daughter and her husband in a quiet and intimate restaurant.  But I left them to themselves because they had no imagination.

What a wonderful and completely articulated dream this is, that you relate to us.  What a wonderful and COMPLETE sharing of your experience.

You can write to me at any time, Honey. You are obviously very familiar with the Subjective Dimension (which is, "Heaven", by the way.

Chaiyah

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Xenopope, I personally believe you made the right decision by not standing up, or assenting to be taken.  I would be very suspicious of any entities that offered to take me under any circumstances.

Offering to help or heal is one thing.... offering to abduct you is another.

Nice recall of a very long dream!

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Xeno:

Very interesting.  My first impression was the same as Lono.  I'm all for some new technology that can be given to the people of this planet to shift the power away from the controllers (that's really all that would be needed).  But to take me away, um, that doesn't sound right.  In fact, it brought up thoughts of the possible senario where the illumanti are the problem part of a 'problem, reaction, solution' senario orchestrated by higher level entities.

It sounds like you handled it perfectly.  Engage them on your terms.  That way you can better tell if there is another agenda a foot.  I do wonder if they would've beemed you up had you stood up though.

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maybe you and robin williams showed up to the same astral house party, just he had to cut out early.

very nice recall tho, i wish i could remember my dreams that well!

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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Hi Xenopope,

One of the important points I recall from The Allies of Humanity material was that even the negative aliens like the greys consider themselves benevolent and operate on an assumption that they are doing what ought to be done ... from their perspective.   So to invite aliens into your life (even if you specify that you only mean "benevolent" ones) is pretty risky, as I think your experience demonstrates.

It's interesting that their requirement for you to physically stand up in order to affirm your consent to be "taken" is interesting.  This reminds me of the induction ceremony used by the military where, at a certain point in the process, all the new soldiers are told to step forward to signify that they are joining the military.  It is the very act of stepping forward itself -- not the person's signature on a form or anything else -- that legally changes that person from a civilian into a "military citizen" subject to a much stricter legal system that ordinary people.    I think there's an important connection there.  On a metaphysical level, it seems that a physical act of affirmation by an individual is necessary before their freewill can be taken away. 

I think it's funny that Robin Williams appeared in your UFO-related dream.  He's always seemed like an alien to  me anyway!   Also the Keebler reference is very telling, since that company uses elves in their advertising.  There is a lot of interesting overlap between the alien/ET subject and that of elves and fairies in Celtic and Scandinavian mythology, see here for some research.

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Have you seen the epsidoe of the The Twilight Zone about the little boy who controled a whole town and would send them to the cornfield if they were "bad?"

I had a dream just like that, but it was about a boy controling a house and not a whole town.  I was with an unidentified female friend and we heard a story about a haunted house that people go in but don't come out.  This exact same house had appeared in at least two previous dreams.  It's a blue Victorian-era house with several floors.  The house always has some sinister quality to it, but the exact qualities are always different.

I and my friend laugh off the story and decide to go into the house for fun.  It turns out the boy had trapped several people in the house, and I remember seeing at least two women, one old and the other one maybe middle aged.  This boy had telekinses (tk) powers and could remotely view us all the time as long as we were in the house, even when he was sleeping.  If we displeased him, or he just got tired of us, he would kill us with his tk powers.  He was constantly changing up the house, adding a room or redecorating it.  He hated it when I moved things around.  It would make him enraged.

He had this weird habit of keeping the electricity off.  One night it was dark, and I was walking down the hall with a flashlight, looking around the house.  At the end of a hallway was a church.  Somehow this made me totally flip and and say, "What is going on here?!?"

I figured out that the boy's weakness was that he couldn't read my thoughts.  He could always see me, but not know what I was thinking.  I used this knowledge to trick him.  I built a handmade phonograph as a "gift" for him.  He could see me making his "present," but being a child couldn't comprehend exactly what I was doing--making a bomb disguised as a music player.  I gave it to him, and BOOM!  I and my friend yanked open the door and ran out as fast as we could.  We were the first to ever leave the house.

I should make my dreams into movies.

283 (edited by Pinkrlyq 2006-06-21 09:26:36)

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Hi All smile

I had a fairly vivid dream a couple of nights ago that I'd like to share, as it pertained to "the ascension" (or "end time event" or whatever else one choose to call it).  At any rate, I didn't get a definite year, per se, but it began sometime after this worldly "event".  The dream jumped around, in a fast-forward type of style and there were snippets from every time frame, beginning with about 6 months after "the big event".

Okay, so here was the dream:

(appx. 6 months into post-"event")
I was with this small community of survivors and we'd established ourselves in a nearby subdivision (from where I live now),and had gathered all the supplies that we could from town.  We were trying to live , a la amish folks...there was no electricity, etc.  I had the feeling that we were the only known survivors, and our multiple attempts via radio had gone unanswered.  I didn't have any real idea of what exactly had taken place to have caused this situation, though.  We'd cut down all the trees for some miles around, and I remember standing on the road, and surveying the area, looking at how we'd deforested the landscape...just "taking in the scene".  Then the dream jumped to about 2 years after the "event"...

(appx. 2 years post-"event")
I had the impression that I had a husband, and that he'd gone to forage and explore, with the rest of the "able-bodied" men.  Meanwhile, I was in labor, as was another young woman... and I realized this is the second time for me!! *gulp*...So I was having my second child, and because there were no pain relievers or such, this other woman and myself were placed in this deeper kind of pool of water, but it had a greenish tint to it..not sure if there were medicinal herbs or whatnot in there, and I had an underwater birth... At this point, my conscious mind (real-time) began to have "issues" with the situation, and the dream fast forwarded again...not quite sure how long into the future it was...

last part of dream (time not known)
It was evening time, and all of a sudden, there were blazing overhead stadium lights and movement from houses all around us....helicopters, people yelling, and people packing their belongings and leaving asap (kind of like in the movie Independence Day, only it was night time)...We all woke up and were like "WHAT THE f*ck?! Where the HELL have you people been?! Where'd you come from?! How long have you been there?! We've been looking for survivors since this all happended?! Have you been there the whole time, and why didn't you say anything... Why couldnt we see you?"

I ran up to this older lady, and she said, "Oh well... We're very sorry that you were so disturbed... We thought it best just to leave you be and observe your progress. You see, you were, are, and will be safe where you're at, and we didn't want to disturb you, but we've been here the whole time. We wanted to study your progress so that we might be able to escape and do the same"... I was so confused, and she didn't have time to explain, but she went on, "After "they" came and began destroying the cities, most of humanity was destroyed and the ones of us that were left all fled to underground places. They haven't been back for years, but now our satellites have shown that their ships are returning, and we HAVE to get out of here NOW!!"

She said, "We found you people living where you were and were about to bring you back here, but you looked to be doing so well with what you had, so we decided that we might be able to learn something from your progress, so that we might escape as you did." I said, "But we didn't even KNOW how we escaped or what happened...We just woke up and it was like this...Everyone was gone!!...What happened?! And how did you get here?"

She said, "Remember how awful it was when they came?...Well, it got worse...They began eating us out in the open, and what they couldn't eat, they "stuffed" away for later...Literally, shoving people, even children into those boxes of theirs, mish-mashed all up....It was just horrific!"
And then I had a "flashback" of what had happened...It's like the Lizzie's had come and all hell had broken loose, but I didn't know how I or any of the others with me had gotten to where we were.  We just woke up one sunny morning, and BAM we were "safe", and alone.

There wasn't too much after that point in the dream that I can remember, but it was very strange, and thought I'd share it with you guys.  The weird part was it was like those other people were living right next to us, all along, but in some sort of other frequency or reality/dimension and somehow, a few of us had litereally ascended into this parallel reality, and didn't realize it.  And those other people "popped" back into existence, or vice-versa, to warn us and let us know if none of them made it after this next attack.  From what I understood, their reality was in danger, but our reality would be perfectly safe, but they couldn't follow us to our reality, and I never got an explaination as to why our two realities were all of a sudden occupying the same space.  Somehow, they'd known about us all along, but we didn't know anything.

Anyway, I wouldn't say the dream was a literal "prophecy" of the future, but maybe a possible future in one of the time lines.  Who knows, but I thought it was worth posting. smile

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." ~ Mark Twain

284 (edited by Xenopope 2006-07-09 15:02:05)

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There were some things I left out. Back in '01 I practiced invocation of Pleiadean light beings during 'cocoon' healing sessions and had also made a concious request that they heal me in my sleep whenever possible and necessary. What I experienced during these healing sessions was exactly the type of energy flow I felt after the dream. One of the things the instruction book said was that the person must cease any poisoning of the body in order for these healing sessions to have the full effect, meaning one must not smoke or drink and that consumption of things like coffee and meat should be down to a bare minimum. My body has not been anywhere near this state of cleanliness for quite some time up untill about 14 days prior to the 'communication' on Monday morning.

Xenopope wrote:

I knew that it was telling me to get up off of the couch and stand up. And I also 'knew' that the reason for this request had something to do with my concious decision or invitation for 'them' (the benevolents who would apparently be waiting for our invitation) to come here AND/OR for 'them' to take me away. And it was also in combination with strong waves of energy throughout my body.

The main reason I didn't get up off the couch and stand up was one of personal selfishness. I did not feel like I wanted to relinquish the feeling of comfort attained from being in the 'twilight' state. But the 'knowing' of things I understood also involved a feeling that getting up off the couch was the 'right thing to do' and never did I feel or think that it would result in anything negative at all.

Xenopope wrote:

I did not necessarily answer in the affirmative that I wanted them to take me away. I don't think I even thought about wanting to leave at the time. But I was communicating that I was in favour of their 'assistance' to all of us here now.

I am pretty sure 'they' already knew that I was in favour of them arriving here and that could have very well been what brought on the communication in the first place. I honestly feel that the fact that I recieved this communication at all while in full knowledge that the communicators already knew the thing that I communicated to them (the answer in favour of them arriving) would indicate that I was indeed 'supposed' to stand up and even that this would have resulted in something desirable to both myself and 'them'. In retrospect, it feels like there must have been a good reason for the request and I can easily imagine that it could have possibly been to initiate a more 'intensive' healing session in another location, etc., seeing as that I was apparently involved in a healing session on the couch while I was dreaming and even after waking up from it. And also, never did I have the impression that I ever would have been taken away to never return.

chaiyah wrote:

This is absolutely CONGRUENT with my dream-experiences in the Subjective dimension.

And your seemingly symbolic representations here serve to solidify my notions that the things in the 'house party' portion of the dream were percieved by me in that way because of my connection to my body during dreamstate and its effect of 'molding' the dream into something which would be identifiable by a person living in a body.

Xenopope wrote:

It was my mother. My real life mother. And she was very calm and sincere asking me whether I wanted her to come pick me up.

Also, my mother and I recently had a conversation via email (prior to the dream) where I suggested that both of our incarnations into our family line could involve an intentional purpose seeing as that both of us could quite possibly identify ourselves as being 'starseed/starpeople' from another star system. I even had the notion that we could possibly have the same 'oversoul' or that we could both be incarnated from the same star system. She does not recall having a parallel dream occurance on the night of my dream and this fact would serve to uphold my theory that I only percieved it to be my mother on the phone in the dream because it was my closest perception of my relationship to the being who was communicating with me on the phone.

Lono wrote:

Xenopope, I personally believe you made the right decision by not standing up, or assenting to be taken. I would be very suspicious of any entities that offered to take me under any circumstances.

I don't actually feel this way. I had a clear notion that my visitors were benevolent and I was not actually suspicous especially seeing as that I have requested assistance more than once in the past and I had even read somewhere before that there is some possibility for benevolent 'induction' for positive purposes.

Lono wrote:

Offering to help or heal is one thing.... offering to abduct you is another.

To even entertain the notion that it would have been an abduction scenario just feels way off the mark to me. Even though I did not have a full understanding of a purpose for my invitation to be taken, I didn't feel that there would be a possibitliy of any negative outcome, had I agreed.

morningsun76 wrote:

One of the important points I recall from The Allies of Humanity material was that even the negative aliens like the greys consider themselves benevolent and operate on an assumption that they are doing what ought to be done ... from their perspective.   So to invite aliens into your life (even if you specify that you only mean "benevolent" ones) is pretty risky, as I think your experience demonstrates.

I have always maintained that when you allow yourself to take a step back and view your own existence here from a more spiritual or less physical point of view, then it could be said that we are indeed _all_ 'aliens' in the sense that this physical way of life is not actually where we all 'come from', so to speak. Many of us have incarnated from a much higher vibratory frequency or density and to those souls, what is actually 'alien' is for them to be living here in this physical state.

morningsun76 wrote:

It's interesting that their requirement for you to physically stand up in order to affirm your consent to be "taken" is interesting.  This reminds me of the induction ceremony used by the military where, at a certain point in the process, all the new soldiers are told to step forward to signify that they are joining the military.  It is the very act of stepping forward itself -- not the person's signature on a form or anything else -- that legally changes that person from a civilian into a "military citizen" subject to a much stricter legal system that ordinary people.    I think there's an important connection there.  On a metaphysical level, it seems that a physical act of affirmation by an individual is necessary before their freewill can be taken away.

There is a 'Law of Allowance' factor which would suggest that a true benevolent being would never violate the free will of another but would instead allow the other to continue along the path of thier choice - meaning that a concious request by this other being would actually be necessary in order for an 'outside' benevolent one to involve themselves in any way with the path of the chooser.

morningsun76 wrote:

I think it's funny that Robin Williams appeared in your UFO-related dream.  He's always seemed like an alien to me anyway.

A friend of mine reminded me that Williams played Mork (a sort of starperson) in the television show Mork & Mindy. Had I remembered that at the time, I probably would have expected him to proclaim, "Nanu-nanu" instead of talking about crackers. big_smile

morningsun76 wrote:

Also the Keebler reference is very telling, since that company uses elves in their advertising.

And now that you mention it, I believe it was the book Earth Angels by Doreen Virtue which describes Williams as being an elemental incarnation along the very lines of an elf conciousness! Maybe that had something to do with him loving 'Kebler' crackers . . [??]

And the fact that he disappeared like a hologram would serve to uphold the notion that we all created this 'holographic' reality as creator gods in order for us to experience ourselves.

I am as is Void.

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Pinkrlyq wrote:

(appx. 6 months into post-"event")
I was with this small community of survivors and we'd established ourselves in a nearby subdivision (from where I live now),and had gathered all the supplies that we could from town.  We were trying to live , a la amish folks...there was no electricity, etc.  I had the feeling that we were the only known survivors, and our multiple attempts via radio had gone unanswered.  I didn't have any real idea of what exactly had taken place to have caused this situation, though.  We'd cut down all the trees for some miles around, and I remember standing on the road, and surveying the area, looking at how we'd deforested the landscape...just "taking in the scene".  Then the dream jumped to about 2 years after the "event"...

(appx. 2 years post-"event")
I had the impression that I had a husband, and that he'd gone to forage and explore, with the rest of the "able-bodied" men.  Meanwhile, I was in labor, as was another young woman... and I realized this is the second time for me!! *gulp*...So I was having my second child, and because there were no pain relievers or such, this other woman and myself were placed in this deeper kind of pool of water, but it had a greenish tint to it..not sure if there were medicinal herbs or whatnot in there, and I had an underwater birth... At this point, my conscious mind (real-time) began to have "issues" with the situation, and the dream fast forwarded again...not quite sure how long into the future it was...

last part of dream (time not known)
It was evening time, and all of a sudden, there were blazing overhead stadium lights and movement from houses all around us....helicopters, people yelling, and people packing their belongings and leaving asap (kind of like in the movie Independence Day, only it was night time)...We all woke up and were like "WHAT THE f*ck?! Where the HELL have you people been?! Where'd you come from?! How long have you been there?! We've been looking for survivors since this all happended?! Have you been there the whole time, and why didn't you say anything... Why couldnt we see you?"

I ran up to this older lady, and she said, "Oh well... We're very sorry that you were so disturbed... We thought it best just to leave you be and observe your progress. You see, you were, are, and will be safe where you're at, and we didn't want to disturb you, but we've been here the whole time. We wanted to study your progress so that we might be able to escape and do the same"... I was so confused, and she didn't have time to explain, but she went on, "After "they" came and began destroying the cities, most of humanity was destroyed and the ones of us that were left all fled to underground places. They haven't been back for years, but now our satellites have shown that their ships are returning, and we HAVE to get out of here NOW!!"

She said, "We found you people living where you were and were about to bring you back here, but you looked to be doing so well with what you had, so we decided that we might be able to learn something from your progress, so that we might escape as you did." I said, "But we didn't even KNOW how we escaped or what happened...We just woke up and it was like this...Everyone was gone!!...What happened?! And how did you get here?"

She said, "Remember how awful it was when they came?...Well, it got worse...They began eating us out in the open, and what they couldn't eat, they "stuffed" away for later...Literally, shoving people, even children into those boxes of theirs, mish-mashed all up....It was just horrific!"
And then I had a "flashback" of what had happened...It's like the Lizzie's had come and all hell had broken loose, but I didn't know how I or any of the others with me had gotten to where we were.  We just woke up one sunny morning, and BAM we were "safe", and alone.

There wasn't too much after that point in the dream that I can remember, but it was very strange, and thought I'd share it with you guys.  The weird part was it was like those other people were living right next to us, all along, but in some sort of other frequency or reality/dimension and somehow, a few of us had litereally ascended into this parallel reality, and didn't realize it.  And those other people "popped" back into existence, or vice-versa, to warn us and let us know if none of them made it after this next attack.  From what I understood, their reality was in danger, but our reality would be perfectly safe, but they couldn't follow us to our reality, and I never got an explaination as to why our two realities were all of a sudden occupying the same space.  Somehow, they'd known about us all along, but we didn't know anything.

Anyway, I wouldn't say the dream was a literal "prophecy" of the future, but maybe a possible future in one of the time lines.  Who knows, but I thought it was worth posting. smile

EEgadzorzz. This is seriously something. I mean WOW.

One question: did you have a clear perception that the experience you were involved in was very similar to physical life or were things more 'fluid' meaning things changed like they never do in the 'real/physical' world?

I don't mean to make some 'shot-in-the-dark' interpretation of your dream but . . .

It would seem to me that you caught a glimpse of a future event which was possibly produced by a mass conciousness which had somehow ended up in the next spatial or dimensional 'area' and had continued to live through their experiences according to things which had happened within thier realities here on Earth.

The 'hell breaking loose/lizzies' portion is particularly telling. I would imagine it is quite possible that mass media such as the movies Signs and other 'alien invasion' films may serve to condition the public mind/mass conciousness towards realities of this very nature.

So what do you think it was that actually happened which was the thing nobody remembered? A cataclysmic event? Maybe your community was rescued and removed somehow and placed into an alternate space where you could be allowed to survive . . . there are just so many possibilities!!

I am as is Void.