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Hi matt,

Could be just a symbolic dream, or it's possible that it's also a screen memory for an abduction.  Not sure what your personal situation is - do you think you might be an abductee?  Ever had any UFO sightings and / or a fascination with the topic of aliens?  Do you have any military connections in your immediate family, or have you been in the military yourself?  (not sure how old you are....)  I know Australia is rife with underground bases and black helicopter sightings.  What about scars?  Burns, scratches, punctures, lines, strange bruising, bumps, lumps, nodes, or whatever?   All stuff to look for whenever one has a highly unusual dream such as the ones you described.  I'm not a dream expert, so I don't know if it's "normal" for people to have dreams like you described, and I do tend to see things through my lens of abductions smile but abduction screen memory seems like a good possibility from what you mentioned.  Again, you have to look for other signs in your life. 

It's just my personal opinion that many MANY more people are being abducted than anybody realizes. And I think the probability is even higher for anybody who finds themselves drawn to sites / forums such as these.   Being interested in these topics is usually an indicator of something going on which the conscious mind may not be remembering.  The memory wipe out process is very effective, and whatever is leftover usually manifetss in weird "dreams".  And many people probably dismiss them as being just that...dreams.   They may overlook physical anomolies as well, especially if it doesn't occur to them to look, or they've been programmed to not notice. ANYway, don't mean to sidetrack, but thought I should ask considering the nature of the dreams you described.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Hi lyra,

My history is that I have actually had brain surgery in real life, a few years ago. But I havent dreamt about it before until now. To be honest, I have always been skeptical about people who say they have been upducted by aliens, and have also been 'on the fence' as to whether or not the sightings on cameras around the world are fake or real.

However, this year has been a real change for me in terms of obtaining a greater awareness. So I guess my long viewed beliefs are also changing and becomming more open to new possibilities.

I would like to think my dreams are just dreams, as the whole alien idea gives me a sort of weird and creepy feeling. But maybe that saying ''the truth shall set you free'' might be true in a different sense, and this could all be part of the process of being freed. I think my greater awareness knowledge has increased 10 fold in only a couple of months, with a large portion accredited to this site.

Vincit omnia Veritas: Truth conquers all.

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Re: Dreams

montalk wrote:

I have looked at myself in mirrors several times before in dreams. Never do I look precisely as I do when awake. During an astral projection I managed to look at myself, and my face was red as though I had just run the mile in hot weather.  Other times my hair was different, either longer or blond. Never had any frightening appearances in the mirror though.

Interesting. I've looked at myself in the mirror several times and always saw myself somewhat different too. The difference is -guess what- with my hair, it's always longer (haha, I thought this is something to do my hair loss. Ferit's alter-ego: I don't like being bald, let me have good long rock-type hair in the dreams smile ) In one dream one of my eyes was red and had an infection, I knew that it was because of my contact lenses. When I woke up, I thought it as a symbol, "look out your general point of view to life, your beliefs, they may be infected".

Seems our dreams use same patterns Montalk!

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

Re: Dreams

Okay - boy is this weird. I am almost ashamed of this . . .

This morning (last night) I dreamed I was in a classroom . . . preparing for something. A presentation. To give to the students. But I was also preparing to inhabit the body of a 'gray'. It was like pre-packaged. In a cilinder tube. And I had to prepare it for myself to be embodied inside of it for the purpose of giving a presentation to the class.

There's more. The subject of my presentation was going to be teaching the students how to inhabit the 'gray' bodies themselves.

I do not like this. Never before have I remembered dreaming anything like this.

I am as is Void.

140 (edited by Sowelu 2005-07-26 18:35:51)

Re: Dreams

Well, in the "green language" of dreams, that may not be what is seems, Xenopope, so take heart.

I mentioned in another thread recently about "putting on" an idea in order to "feel your way around" whether or not it's truth or a false or distorted concept... that sort of thing. This is a skill or activity that befits the same level of self involved in dreaming. Did you read that post, by any chance? It may have triggered your psyche in some way that came out in the dream.

It may be that you are "putting on" ideas about the greys lately, at some level, in order to reveal to yourself what you know. And if that's the case, perhaps you know more than you're consciously aware of about the whole "grey" phenomenon, because you're giving a presentation or teaching others.

Putting anything clothing-like, suit-like, on in a dream indicates "playing a role" or "assuming an attitude", typically.

All in all my sense is that this dream is about learning and exchanging information, not literal "grey embodiment", for what it's worth. smile

"The most important decision you have to make is whether you live in a hostile or friendly universe."
~ Albert Einstein

The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes. ~Marcel Proust

The evolution of humanity is an evolution of the heart. The path is through the heart.

141 (edited by Sowelu 2005-07-26 19:48:15)

Re: Dreams

Heh heh... Xenopope, another idea that popped in around your dream...

What if your psyche was revealing the concept that "the grey phenomenon is a put-on"? The language of dreams is often pun-like and humorous, if we can let go our fear filters and see it. big_smile

Just an idea...

~Sowelu

"The most important decision you have to make is whether you live in a hostile or friendly universe."
~ Albert Einstein

The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes. ~Marcel Proust

The evolution of humanity is an evolution of the heart. The path is through the heart.

Re: Dreams

Ok.
I used to have this reacuring dream that i was with my aunt and mother in a car driving into the
what felt like "the shit factory" i had a terrible feeling of fear, and helplesness, terriblly scary. at the end i was sitting with my aunt on a white picket fence picking flowers, and all was ok. i had this dream about once every 2 months or so from the time i could remember till i was about 16. it used to scare the daylights out of me to the point of screaming, but i could not wake up or speak out loud. one day my mother was reading a book on dream inturpritation. and i asked her what this dream meant? she told me that when i was 18 mos old my aunt, her and i were in here new car on the highway and spun out and hit a telephone pole , after wards my aunt was keeping me occupied by picking flowers next to the white picket fence on the road side. after that night i have never had the dream again.!@!!!!\
this tells me something of dreams, and that they are powerful reminders of past events,lives,and futurs that we do not realise in our waking state. also, when we sleep our brains are nonstop problem solving. once i learned what realy happend i had no more of these  dreams ever!!!
the problem was solved. any thoughts on the power of dreams and problem solving?

143 (edited by Sowelu 2005-07-26 21:30:31)

Re: Dreams

Most of our greatest thinkers attribute many of their most profound ideas to a dreamstate. Einstein among them. So YES! Certainly!

If you think of a human being as an individualized spark of The One, and then consider that the individuation continued down FROM Source, layer after layer until you hit 3D (though each individuation likely has an expression at each and every level/band of frequency that exists in this holographic universe)...

...then our Dreaming Mind may well be our mind, our very own individuated consciousness, a level or two UP from here (our daily 3D conscious focus), with that much less limitation.

So could it help us solve problems we have here in 3D? You bet! big_smile I consider it one of our "higher resources" for solving problems at this level - because you really can't solve a problem at the level it exists, you know? But it's ok cuz we have built-in higher resources to go to. We just have to learn to access, communicate with (i.e. LISTEN and translate that "green language" accurately) and trust them. wink THAT'S ALL! LOL!

"The most important decision you have to make is whether you live in a hostile or friendly universe."
~ Albert Einstein

The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes. ~Marcel Proust

The evolution of humanity is an evolution of the heart. The path is through the heart.

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Re: Dreams

Xenopope wrote:

This morning (last night) I dreamed I was in a classroom . . . preparing for something. A presentation. To give to the students. But I was also preparing to inhabit the body of a 'gray'. It was like pre-packaged. In a cilinder tube. And I had to prepare it for myself to be embodied inside of it for the purpose of giving a presentation to the class.

There's more. The subject of my presentation was going to be teaching the students how to inhabit the 'gray' bodies themselves.

Well... Xenopope, what clearly came to my mind (3rd eye) while shortly reading this was a glimpse of a Trojan Horse. To go undercover and infiltrate an adversary what do you have to do? They have to be taken by surprise.

Heeheehee... maybe you were teaching a class on stealth infiltration dude cool .

I'm so laughing right now for thinking about the Reps having an army of Grays they think are soulless units, to then "come to life", and turn on them no less...LOL!!! (Oh jeez, not so funny now. I just had a very strong feeling of deja vu yikes ...vewee,vewee strange)

Now, granted, this may sound like a strange thing to say, but--I learned a few weeks ago about energetic, or alter-density/dimensional, "ambush". As I came to find out, this particular ambush took even the most of transpositioned entities in my energy field by surprise. Though others may not see it the same way as me, some of us Light Workers got our asses kicked a few weeks ago. Literally. At one point I woke up with my head feeling like it had been walloped, and then even manifested a bump. A few days later I found fingertip bruises on the back of my arms. Odd though, only three fingertip prints, not five... wha'sat remind you of? I spoke to more than a handful of people at that time who were exhibiting symptoms of being anally probed.

I know, I know...  hmm  I'm talking from a battle mentality, but....


Xenopope wrote:

Okay - boy is this weird. I am almost ashamed of this . . .

....I do not like this. Never before have I remembered dreaming anything like this.

How brave were you to post this dream Xenopope? Wow!

If I was you I'd react the same way, although I probably wouldn't of had the kahuna's to post it. But as you can see, for myself being a bystander, an experienced bystander me thinks, I see it a different way. I don't think the dream is noting you as doing something "bad".

As far as the being "ashamed" goes, I'll tell ya true, I often wonder how far gone I am from my Reptilian roots.... it freaks me out sometimes. I don't wanna be a Lizzy!!! No, no, no!!! I think a lot of us think about, even worry about this, it's just nobody wants to talk about it. It's so not easy subject matter.

Given the idea of a transdensity shift, how do I or anyone else know just exactly what it is that morphology may entail (if it were to happen). That's why I wrote that I would react the same as you, with shame... I'd feel it for sure, but you know what my NR buddy?  For me, I know I live well intended, doing my best to practice STO/STA principles so that if it is a Reptilian "me" I suddenly find myself as, it's going to get bitch slapped into selflessness just for meeting my drive to be "better than that". I am an engine of STO intention. It's the person I am consciously everyday that lays to rest my worries about waking up in a Lizzy body one day.

And you? Do you live your days unkind to others? Do you manipulate and force issues with others to better your life? What are your personal daily intentions made of? Are they made of the kind of stuff that would teach others to be a Gray and join the ranks of the self-serving, or are you made of the stuff to be a stealth spy and to act with force in the name of righteous principles? These are all rhetorical questions asked to get you to return to balance from that skewed place of feeling shame. For what it's worth lovey, I don't think you have anything to be ashamed of.

Again, I know my words are all very sci-fi-ish, but do you know what I mean? About knowing yourself well enough to know better? I mean, if you had a dream that you were an ax-murderer, would you believe that you are an ax-murderer? See what I mean... Professor X? lol

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

145 (edited by Xenopope 2005-07-27 14:21:44)

Re: Dreams

Sowelu wrote:

Did you read that post, by any chance?

Don't think I did.

Sowelu wrote:

Putting anything clothing-like, suit-like, on in a dream indicates "playing a role" or "assuming an attitude", typically.

Okay, I understand - but I am fairly certain that the 'gray body' was neither clothes nor a suit but an actual body of an alien. I 'knew' this in the dream.

Sowelu wrote:

What if your psyche was revealing the concept that "the grey phenomenon is a put-on"? The language of dreams is often pun-like and humorous, if we can let go our fear filters and see it. big_smile

I see. And intrestingly enough, this does jibe with an 'inconsistency' I've had lately regarding the grays relating to some extremely eye opening 'revalations' I've had from reading Icke's book on the reptis . . . just that the whole grays phenomenon no longer 'feels' like it fits perfectly with my information regarding their relationship with the reptis.

Auendove wrote:

Well... Xenopope, what clearly came to my mind (3rd eye) while shortly reading this was a glimpse of a Trojan Horse. To go undercover and infiltrate an adversary what do you have to do? They have to be taken by surprise.

Heeheehee... maybe you were teaching a class on stealth infiltration dude cool .

ohmygodohmygodohmygod! Your're right! And I never even realized! Teaching other light workers to inhabit the bodies of grays undetected to effectively 'infect' the hive from within!!!!!! THANK YOU YOU ARE AWESOME.

Auendove wrote:

I'm so laughing right now for thinking about the Reps having an army of Grays they think are soulless units, to then "come to life", and turn on them no less...LOL!!!

*Laughing Loudly* AWESOME insight. Just wonderful.

Auendove wrote:

(Oh jeez, not so funny now. I just had a very strong feeling of deja vu yikes ...vewee,vewee strange)

wow, I would think that to be a very peculiar episode of deja vu!

Auendove wrote:

Now, granted, this may sound like a strange thing to say, but--I learned a few weeks ago about energetic, or alter-density/dimensional, "ambush". As I came to find out, this particular ambush took even the most of transpositioned entities in my energy field by surprise. Though others may not see it the same way as me, some of us Light Workers got our asses kicked a few weeks ago.

Oh man . . . could we talk? I'd been wanting to contact some light worker who I could trust for some time now.

Auendove wrote:

I suddenly find myself as, it's going to get bitch slapped into selflessness just for meeting my drive to be "better than that".

*Laughing Loudly Again*

Auendove wrote:

And you? Do you live your days unkind to others? Do you manipulate and force issues with others to better your life? What are your personal daily intentions made of? Are they made of the kind of stuff that would teach others to be a Gray and join the ranks of the self-serving, or are you made of the stuff to be a stealth spy and to act with force in the name of righteous principles? These are all rhetorical questions asked to get you to return to balance from that skewed place of feeling shame. For what it's worth lovey, I don't think you have anything to be ashamed of.

Again, I know my words are all very sci-fi-ish, but do you know what I mean? About knowing yourself well enough to know better? I mean, if you had a dream that you were an ax-murderer, would you believe that you are an ax-murderer? See what I mean... Professor X? lol

Yes! Definitely the latter 'stealth spy'! And thanks again for the wonderful reply. Definitely the highlight of my day.

I am as is Void.

Re: Dreams

Xenopope wrote:

Oh man . . . could we talk?

Of course.... without a doubt Brother/Man, I'm zoom-zoomin' an email your way shortly.

And Xenopope, Trust is precious... thank you smile .

And... yeah-heah... lol I had a good day too... I am now gainfully employed!

... now there's a "dream" come true!!!!

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Anyone with good suggestions on becoming more lucid in dreams? Things that have worked for you?

" Then it was, then again it will be. And though the course may change sometimes rivers always reach the sea." Robert Plant

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thook wrote:

Anyone with good suggestions on becoming more lucid in dreams? Things that have worked for you?

Setting my intentions to be lucid in dreams worked for me. It took a little bit of time, but I found after praying my patootie off for dream lucidity it came around my way. It's been awhile since I've had to do this, but every night before I went to bed I intended, I prayed, I requested, etc. and eventually it worked. And boy-oh-boy was it ever a thing the first time it happened. I was tickled pink!

Ask for and ye shall receive, yes?  wink

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Si, seniorita! Thank you Auendove. I will do just that. For a while I have been so tired when I go to bed, if I make it to the bed, I just go right out with no intention other than resting. I used to lucid dream often, but it has been a while.

" Then it was, then again it will be. And though the course may change sometimes rivers always reach the sea." Robert Plant

Re: Dreams

I now see this next dream as confirmation of what I'd recently interpreted many of my dreams to be. Thanks to a certain 'intuitive' member for the insight and interpretations there . . .

---= Group Induced Effect =---

Morning of Sunday June 30th, 2002:

I'm at a concert. Marilyn Manson I'm pretty sure. I'm sittin' (near the back?) with a group of about 8 - 10 people around me and we're smokin' sumthin' (a joint or other kind of drugs?). I think Marilyn Manson is with us and has given us this special joint or drugs. When I take my turn smoking, I seem to understand that the group is going to effect some sort of change on my person (aside from making me high from the drugs). When I finish smoking, I pass the (joint, drugs?), and wait for the change (from the group) to take effect. When it does, I immediately feel SO high on drugs. The change 'snapped' into place and when it did, I felt a feeling I don't think I've ever felt in a dream or awake. The only thing I think I could compare it with would be being VERY high on drugs. This feeling was a result (I seem to know) of the change effected from the group. Stranger than that, aside from the feeling, my WHOLE body (except my eyes) was wrapped in this spandex-like rainbow colored (mostly yellow & orange) material that felt SO tight that it hindered my body movements. This stuff was like plastic, very smooth to the touch, and was so tight that I couldn't move my legs or walk. It was as if I had been candied like a candy apple, but with EXTREMELY tight and strong material. I felt this tightened, bound-up euphoric feeling in my upper-middle torso and my legs. About this time I was starting to freak out just a little bit so I tried to talk/yell out to the group, but I COULDN'T TALK. I took a few steps while beginning to freak out and then, desperately (being unable to talk), I grabbed my mouth and pulled it open breaking the seal on my mouth. This gave me the ability to talk.

After waking up, I noticed my body was very cold - and that the air conditioning was on too high.

I am as is Void.