Topic: the wave has already come, possibility

http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/matrix.html

Okay, this has probably already been discussed here, but for the sake of us, thook and me, lol, that have just read about dobbs, please bear with me.  I am sitting here realizing the possibility that we are already in fourth density.  The wave has already come.  This explains the myriad of occurrences that has happened in both our lives.  One day I am jogging down our country road, few years ago, before the movie the matrix, actually just as it was coming out.  Saw a black grid in the distance superimposed on the landscape.  As I approached it was aware that as I reached the grid I just might cease to exist as I knew it, heart pounding…reaching the grid did not disappear…but came home and called a kindred in another town to relate…see the matrix he responded.  Thook also having occurrences he has been unable to explain.  Then there was the time I hear singing in the woods…though it might be some hikers with a radio…but as I left for town the singing followed me.  Finally decided to listen to the words…“?if you open your eyes you can see us“?.   So many happenings like these from earliest times…so damn many.  So reading dobbs it actually makes the pieces fit.  If we are already in 4th density then the “goal“? would to be to keep us from “seeing“? that.  Also explains the towns that are not there etc.  If the dracos want to keep this race from evolving then all they have to do is keep the race from seeing that they have taken a step up the evolutionary ladder.  So, our service would not be something that will be revealed at some future date, when the wave comes…but to see that the wave has come and gone…and to help bring about the awareness of such.

Comments?

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Palulukon.............good thread!!!   Yikes.   I've thought this myself, wondering if maybe we're already IN 4th!!     Like you and Thook, I have had so many bizarre, unexplainable experiences....but experiences which match up to 4th density type stuff.   Definately NOT 3rd, by any means.   The only thing that has kept me from accepting this theory is that A)  I still eat food and function physically on a 3rd density level;     B)  I'm still surrounded by VERY 3rd density people who are fully plugged in to materialism & STS "me me me" existances.   If we were truly in 4th, we wouldn't see those people (or would we?  I'm not sure....)  And we wouldn't be functioning physically in a 3rd density way I wouldn't think. 

But again, on the other hand, like you said, there have just been SO many bizarre experiences which defy everything that 3rd density is supposed to be.   What if we are being tricked?   What if someone is trying to keep the wool over our eyes?   Or maybe like what we were talking about in another thread.....what if we're all just dead, and living in some parallel spin-off reality, and don't know it??   wink   Have considered that idea. What I've had to settle on is the idea that we're still alive, still in 3rd, but on the cusp of transition.   

But again, that may not be the case.   We could very well be tricked.   

I think though that at the bare minimum though, I have on several occasions existed in a 4th / 3rd bleed-through situation.    To make a long story short, I'll summarize:   Back in California, 4 years ago, I lived for a year in an apartment where I was roommating with my brother.    There was A LOT of funny stuff going on with my bro, and to sum up what the C's told me......he was a 4th density probe.   Before I knew this however, he was just my roommate brother, and we were living in an apartment which had non-stop paranormal activity happening 24/7, of which included multiple open portals.   At any rate, one night, just prior to an entity attack which occured 2 nights later, I was in my room and things didn't feel right.  Everything felt all "wrong", the room actually LOOKED wrong, all distorted and off, the sound was "off", and even the LIGHTING color looked off......it had a yellowish appearance.   It was so bizarre.   WELL.....come to find out several years later while reading the C's material that when in a 4th density state or temporary bleed-through, 4th has a yellowish color.   And I'm sure it feels adn sounds a little "off" as well.   wink   My point being that even if we aren't in 4th yet, I bet most of us here at NR have already experienced some time in 4D,  either having bleedthroughs in their 3rd density realities, or going there during abductions, etc.   

Anyway, this is a great thread.   Even if people don't want to post their experiences, it'll at least get people to think and reflect back upon their lives a little more closely and notice their anomalous experiences.

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Well lyra, I should be sleeping…can hardly keep my eyes open but at the same time can hardly not  not keep them open.  The things that happened to me “in the past“? I attributed to 4th density bleed through also.  But now I am not so sure.  In the matrix people still ate food etc…consider a virtual reality, well, it is virtual.  I remember some in the c’s transcripts were they are coy and say wait and see…I am going to have to reread with this possible scenario inserted.  Like, the c’s could not come and say guess what folks, you are in 4th density…would not be kosher…so they say “is coming“? but still lots of evasive humor when the questions get too thick.  You would be much more familiar with the transcripts than me and can perhaps make some connections.  Just last week I was reading about Yellowstone and the animals leaving…and the thread on this one site was first of may, 95% of the navy was at sea, the tremendous cost and could only be kept at sea for a month the way it is all set up, so the posters surmised that Yellowstone would blow within a month.  Well, oh Yellowstone, where for art thou blowing?  Then I think of back in the 60’s we were looking for certain points when “it would all happen“?.  Those special times came and went…over and over again.  Just like now everyone is focused on the Mayan calendar…we keep looking for it to come at certain dates and the dates come and go.  In the mean time we look at pictures of gas chambers the govt is building, chemtrails, haarp, asteroids coming blogs, the list goes on and on and on.  One forum I am on referrers to it as FUD, fear, uncertainty, doubt…and it is everywhere.  We think that because we have the internet, and remember the constant rumors that it will be “taken away from us“? by martial law or god knows what…that we have the edge because we can share information.   Well, try the flip side, and we have been “given“? the internet so that we can circulate FUD more effectively.   FUD keeps us squarely focused on the virtual 3d.  Why in the world would “they“? build gas chambers, concentration camps, contract for rr cars with shackles, spray micoplasms from the sky (and jet fuel, god I spent a lot of time figuring that one out and was sooooooooooo proud of myself when I did), do things like haarp etc and then let us all talk about it.  I am on so many health forums where every alternative modality is discussed in depth and the never ending possibility that that too will be “taken“? from us.   

Did you ever hear the story of the Bay of Feuga?  As it is told, a ship came into the bay but since the Indians  had never seen a ship they did not see the one in the harbor.  The tribe shaman did however and had to teach the people how to see the ship.  Well, well, well??????????  I have said that when the time is right I will know what it is I came to do…but putting it off in some mythical future.  In the mean time entertained myself with self help awareness things, the inner child, overcoming “re-action“?, creating my own reality (hum, that might have more weight than I realize now lol), meditation, this way of eating, that way of eating…god, the list is endless, or so it seems.  Fact is I have been entirely focused on 3d while trying to overcome the limitations.   When I read in holographic universe a universe between two hyper universes it was way over my head…but now it takes on a different meaning.

Think about it, everything around us, EVERYTHING, reinforces that this is 3d and there is somewhere to go, something to do.  We think we are asleep and need to wake up, but what if morpheus is not just a tiny little clue…that we are so awake in 3d that we need to do just the opposite to “see“?….and that what we think is awake is asleep and what we think is asleep is awake…

Just chewing on all this right now…personally intend to play with this in depth…how will I know unless I look…how I feel right now is how I felt when I first read the c’s…my own paradigm shift…have not felt it since then…but boy I certainly am feeling it right now.  It would possibly explain the immediacy I am seeing with the indigos that are showing up in my life recently.  They feel a pressure of needing to know…I have sent a copy of the post, and link to the post to see what kind of feed back they will have.  The recent ones I have met are so “on the verge“?.  And yet I have been wondering why, as many events “appear“? to have to take place before they can do their service…but with a different slant on the issue…well.

Another thing is the smoking causes cancer thing…but as I read studies that have been buried the cancer started right after the first A bomb test…and that smoking actually puts a mucus lining that protects the lungs…whether that is true or not is not the issue…the issue is the time line…all the buried research points to something happening round 44 or 45 so when I read dobbs thing another red flag.

I do believe very strongly this is a possible reality that bears anyone that resonates with it to research it thoroughly…life is but a dream eh?  And “am I dreaming“?…well?well?

It's all mind over matter. If you don't mind it doesn't matter...

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Well I don't know about everyone else, but reading about Bob Dobbs made my head hurt! Is this guy for real?

One part of me thinks that what he's saying is so completely and utterly crazy that it probably has to be true!! But then again you can say that about the C's and I don't see how those two world views are compatible with each other. Or are they?

But anyway, on to the whole 3rd density / 4th density (if there is such a thing!) issue:

I have to agree with Lyra, I think we're most likely still living in 3D. I don't think things have changed enough for us to seriously entertain the idea that the transition has already fully taken place.

But as we get closer to the transition I think perhaps we're seeing a combination of both 'worlds'. Like when you try to tune in an analogue TV and you sometimes see a combination of two different channels before you finally get the full and perfect picture.

I'm sure this has been discussed before but what are peoples opinions on the Morph that Stuart writes about?

Is the Morph just Stuart's term for 4D? My own feeling is that it must be. I think Stuart says in his writings somewhere that sooner or later everyone will see the Morph. But right now the Morph just seems to descend at random intervals, and some people are aware of it and some people aren't.

Stuart wrote:

Then a new realization came to me, the Morph process is everywhere. It’s penetrating in more and more places with every day that passes. Ten of thousands of people are in it while not realizing it. It can begin with a twitch in the eye, or a strange flutter between your legs. Sometimes it’s the sensation of walking down the street and watching the sidewalk melt. Sometimes, it’s the feeling that you have seen it all before, as if you are traveling backwards in time–eternal, connected to all things. Sometimes it’s strange colored speckles that appear in rooms when they are quite dark, other times it’s very fast moving flashes of light crossing the sky.

The bridge is coming for humanity; people will become translucent. The process has already begun. I’ll tell you what I know about it bit by bit.

http://www.stuartwilde.com/morph/sw_morph_bridge2.htm

So far I don't think I've really had a definite 4th density/Morph experience, unless you include some incredible synchronisities that have taken place in my life. But I haven't had what I would call a visual experience. Or at least not while in 'normal' consciousness. I've definitely seen some pretty far out things while on mushrooms & ayahuasca!

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I am soooo glad for these last several posts regarding the wave-Palulukon and Lyra's sparked something that had been either overlooked, ignored, or not observed.

For the past year or the usual process involving dejavu has changed radically.  It is difficult to fully explain, but it is very, very different.  Perhaps in an attempt to explain it is to say something like this:  The air has a particular texture, this orange is peaceful, the emotional messages from others are solid.  That is to say, usual perceptions attributed to particular things, are totally different!  I know I'm not imagining things, or crazy-but this is something others have described as well (and no, not my psychotic patients).  This is a pretty vague or inadequate attempt towards describing this scenerio, but suffice it to say, something is different-tangibly so.

For myself, dejavu most typically occurs in triplets:  #1 is telling me to be aware-more so than usual-be alert and use discernment.  #2 is "yes, so and so is likely to occur 99.9% chance-so be prepared, but be calm and know that wisdom will be there for you to use if so desired.  #3 is conformation that "it has occurred" but the ability to proceed with damage control/or crutial decisions is without any anxiousness, fear, or negative emotional content.  Just is, and go on.  During step #1 there is a complete knowingness/pre-experienced feeling that all "this" has happened, but it is sectioned into 3 phases for the most part (ease of assimilation?).

Now this process is radically different, or simplified.  No feeling of disassociation, but a continuous flow of events without any breaks or distraction.  One step, but general sensation/feeling/reality is more natural-like taking a drink of water (you don't analyze that), tying your shoe, going to the bathroom-actions that are without any thought so to speak.  A simplification.  Not like "this has happened before" but the way it just is-no intermissions, no breaks in the continium.

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

6 (edited by palulukon 2004-08-15 13:21:27)

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Manyeagles…

Well, finally, FINALLY, got on line.  Power source went out…hum.  Back up power source also dead…hum.  Took a 250 watt and computer is running but will have to replace asap.  Got online with Thook’s computer, every time went to Dodd’s site froze, reboot, now win cannot find the win folder…hum.  Could just all be coincidence but this is exactly what happened when we found the cass site 2 1/2 years ago…repeated computer issues for months.  Finally said to the “space“? no matter what you do if I have to replace everything I will because you will not keep me from reading the c’s.  Did wind up replacing darn near everything, but determined to get back on line.  Was in the middle of posting earlier on Thook’s when it finally died.  Will put in another hard drive and start over with his.


Got an email from the kindred mentioned in first post about see the matrix….his message, okay, now it is time for a phone call and send me the link to what will best explain this fourth density…he is not indigo, but my age….a kindred that first turned me on to mediation, I ching etc some 30 years ago…a brother in the truest sense.

Having to reevaluate everything I am seeing.  When Thook left for work and both computers doing odd things had the distinct feeling not alone….creepy, eerie…yes, I know, at this point must be sounding demented…what size white coats are available lol.

However, what better way to keep evolution from happening than to use mirrors to keep the focus on 3d?  We go through all these “processes“? to awaken when the clue just might be in the morpheus theme….

Read the life is a dream thread last night, well, early am hours not being able to sleep…everyone saying the same thing…why, why??????

Maybe we have overlooked the obvious.  On the dream thread someone asked how we would project a virtual reality…well, have been asking that question for about 30 years…remember in Seth the comment we pulse in and out of multiple realities…thook and I actually started catching some of the pulsing…like thook would say something to me and I would respond, but later when it was brought up I had no recollection of the conversation, and vica versa…started calling it my clone was filling in.  Then after we started reading the c’s caught so many times we were having 4d experience and pondered how would we know we were in 4d as we have trouble maneuvering it in “dream 2“? time.  Most of my adult life calling this dream 1 and the other dream 2.  In holographic universe said this universe between two hyper universes…way over my head at the time…presently so much info swirling around, wires short circuiting, connections being made can only ride it out and see what the outcome will be.   Did have an experience, concrete, of simultaneous time about 11 years ago.  After that no doubt what so ever…

So, where does it all tie in…and did time as we know it end in 1945 with the A bomb, and this all has been a planet of mirrors since…timelines need to be studied.  The most obvious way to stop evolution, which happens organically, would be to create the illusion that evolution is happening somewhere in the “past“? or "future".  Look at an acorn that becomes the huge oak…there is no particular trial and tribulation the acorn goes through, it is evolution organically.   Would it not be the same for humanities or whatever you want to call them…so humanity gets to the point of atomic weapons…and there is the quantum leap…so you paste a matrix over the quantum leap of a continuum…life going on in the same ole slavery, drudgery, war and destruction…but with all the radiation that has been unleashed since 91 into the atmosphere with the bombing in the east…why are we even still standing…not to mention Chernobyl.  Too many unanswered questions…

And the answer might just be right under our noses…what is this I am reading about the answer is on our face, what does that mean?  I am asking, not trying to stimulate discussion about something I think I already know…

I do “believe“? there is a distinct possibility the wave has already come…and that what we think is sleep is awake and what we think is awake is sleep…

Say one thing, beats the hell out of discussions on glider rescue boards lol.

It's all mind over matter. If you don't mind it doesn't matter...

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Also, when we read the c’s for the first time, hopping right into underground bases of all places to pop in, felt this rush, this paradigm internal and knew that nothing would ever be the same.  Information that we had accessed before but not until the c’s did it either come at “the right time“? or in the right language, but it resonated and everything as we saw it changed.  This is the same feeling we are having now…internal rush, quickening.  I am not saying this is because this new information is “the truth“?, just we are observing our reactions… when we read the c’s huge shift in reality perception which took the better part of 6  months to assimilate…since then have both felt like we were on a plateau, and so hanging out, making new friends and reconnecting with old friends, enjoying the “calm before the storm“?.  Were we just in the eye of the hurricane and now we are coming to the back side…the side that packs the most punch?  Have not a clue, well, maybe a hunch, maybe a clue, but cannot say with any definitive certainty. 

To the post that said Dobbs made head hurt…yes, and so did the c’s for us, and so does Dobbs…the feelings so similar…

I like my white coats big and baggy…

It's all mind over matter. If you don't mind it doesn't matter...

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What really resonates with myself is what you said, "never be the same"!  So true (at least my experiences as of the past couple of years). The major part in the past 6 mo's or so.  Kinda exciting huh?  Especially since we are not alone in all this stuff...

Ironically, just recalled several dreams that involved holograms in the sky.  Funny how they just all the sudden "got remembered".  Guess some posts somehow activate memories and help us.

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

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manyeagles wrote:

Ironically, just recalled several dreams that involved holograms in the sky.  .

vanilla sky...

and as the "program" started to malfunction evidence of the imagined life started popping up everywhere, the telly, conversations, everywhere...

yes, funny how someone says something that triggers a re-memberance...rather the state I presently seem to be in...

It's all mind over matter. If you don't mind it doesn't matter...

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I've invited this person from One Step Ahead.  Montalk is THE place for such questions. 

http://www.osasleuths.org/Main/modules. … amp;t=3416

I told wmhaoi I was going to post this link to get some help started.

11 (edited by Auendove 2004-08-16 06:07:21)

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I experienced 4D bleed through twice in 1998, once in February and once in April. 

The first time in February I was alone in my apartment, I was in a very lighthearted mood.  I had the windows and doors open and there was a great breeze going through my apartment (FL winters make up for FL summers). I had incense burning, Dr. Wayne Dwyer's cassette "Four Pathways to Success" playing, I was watering my plants, playing with my cat... generally it was one of those rare days where everything just felt so light, right, and peaceful.  As I was walking from one end of the apartment to the other, within a few steps, my body and environment totally changed.  My body lost its mass and I became this brilliant sheen of light, and my apartment just totally went bye-bye.  This sheen of light was like when a sunray hits chromium and reflects that certain quality of blinding light. Exactly like that. Then just as swiftly, I was me and my apartment was back. LOL now, but at the time I stopped dead in my tracks looking around myself, this had been the first time I had ever experienced a spontaneously body altering while standing and walking.  At the time it was something I didn't even know could happen.  It very much caught me by surprise.

In contrast, and what I find intriguing due to its stark contrast, the second time it happened in April I was in a foul mood.  No kidding.  I was on campus at USF and it was the end of the semester. I had research papers due that weren't ready, finals were breathing down my neck, it was unseasonably hot, I was stressed, stressed, stressed... absolutely burnt out. I was walking to the library through a crowd of many people and, Shazaam! smile, again within a few steps and the blink of an eye I was a massless light body walking along, and there were no people around me, and there was no five story library beside me.  You know, the first time it happened I was alone in the privacy of my apartment... unless something like this has happened to you you can only imagine just how freaking bizarre it is to be in a crowd of people, then they're gone, and then they're back... and they don't seem to notice anything has occurred?  My blood was so rushing in my ears I couldn't hear anything.  The "silver lining" to this event was that it was EXACTLY like the other, and I had confirmation... though I didn't actually know for sure confirmation of what, I was just happy it happened again so I knew the first time wasn't just a fluke.  Even so, there was a hope/knowing within me that it had something to do with 4D.  Four years later I would get to ask the C's about it, this my first time back at a session for that many years.

One point I really want to make is I used words like "swiftly" and "blink of an eye" to describe experiencing this type of altering...  these words are "slow", no, they don't even apply.  Maybe better to describe it as a "lightspeed" change. big_smile big_smile big_smile

What I found and still find intriguing is that 4D bleed through, consciously connecting with 4th density through perception, will happen whether or not one is "light and lovely" or "down and ugly".  I guess I had some kind of ideation that one could only experience transition if in a perfect state of balance... this in order to reach the "null point". Yet my experiences and the following segment of a 2/23/02 C's session lead me to believe that there's way more to it than a "state of mind/emotion"/YCROR through your attitude.  It's not just simply about love lifting one up or despair bringing one down, hope and faith, or the lack of those, it's also about the culmination of all one's being: their frequency, their level of energetic emanation beyond the finite 3D body... most of the time I think we'll always be so much more than we know, every step of the way, our potential is that great.  And I'm not writing "we" with a mouse in my pocket here, I'm talking about all of us here in 3D Land that care to know just how far we can go, without damnedable expectations of perfection. 

This segment of this session is longish and there were a number of people present so there was a bit of chatter, but even in the chatter there is some interesting insights.  For most of us at the session the idea of an FRE was a new one, so there was a lot of digging for understanding.

Q:  ...(V) I'll ask something unless someone
else was ready to go.  Twice maybe in the last 3 or 4
years - once at USF and once in my apartment - I was
walking along and all of the sudden the environment
had totally changed and it was like I was a light
person. Can you tell me what that was?
A: 4D bleed through.  We mentioned before that you
ought to get used to it.
Q:  (V) Well, it is not a "getting used to thing." It only
happened twice and it was magnificent. I mean it was
an experience.  I can say now that I am experienced.
(laughter) (L) And not Jimmy Hendrix! (V) Is there any
way to generate this myself? It was just so
spontaneous?
A: STS do that.
Q:  (V) Do what? (L) Seek to generate such
experiences for the sake of the experience. (R) Bring it
on through the matrix, through technology, rituals,
drugs, whatever.  (JN) What were you smoking at the
time (laughter)? (V) Yeah, right.  So is there a positive
or negative aspect to this?
A: Not unless you are not experienced! [L's laughing
hard through the letter calling.]
Q:  (L) I felt that coming and it was so funny! (V)
While I was in this altered state, did I look the same to
other people around me?
A: Yes.
Q:  (R) You see it is only a perspective from an
individual perspective.
A: Perception is bonded by awareness.  Others are
bonded to their awareness of you and all else.
Q:  (V) Well, while this was happening to me, was this
also happening to others in my general area?
A: No.  Not likely.  You do not yet realize how rare
higher awareness is.
Q:  (JN) What triggered it?
A: Frequency envelope thinning due to patterning
imprint repetition of Violette in her environment.
Q:  (V) Alright what's a frequency envelope you brainy
types.  (R) Actually, frequency envelope, [asking Ark]
isn't that what we were doing with the wave
generating computer program? (A) Frequency envelope
is something like that.
A: Your awareness maintains a frequency emanation in
concert with those in your environment.  When there
are fluctuations in bonding frequencies both between
you and your environment, and the frequency bonding
of another, the fluctuations create discontinuities.
Q:  (R) Okay, that makes sense.  (L) It does? (V) Okay
then tell me.  (R) Okay.  It's like resonance. If the
environment has a particular frequency...hmm...  (V)
We were asking about the frequency envelope and
what it is.  (R) And it's Violette. And violet is high
energy, right? The color spectrum right? [The group
reviews the previous C's answer...] (R) Exactly, so it's
a quantum jump.  GROUP: Yeah.  (R) Because you're at
one level and unless something strange happens that's
where you're at.  (L) In other words--you emanate
energy, the other person emanates energy, and the
energy exchange is between you and the environment,
and between you and the person and the environment,
and your environment is maintained, and the envelope
of energy is maintained around you. But if there
is...what? Fluctuations? (R) Ah! "Your awareness
maintains a frequency emanation in concert with those
in your environment." Hence, if your environment has a
frequency that allows for a higher frequency, I mean, it
always has the lower, but in some cases it can allow
for higher.  (L) They're talking about it being
fluctuations in the environment.  If somebody or
something in you're environment is...  (A) But the
question is--which properties of environment that we
can describe in terms of...(L) Well they're saying that
the fluctuations are in Violette.  (R) In concert with
the environment.  (L) And in concert with people who
are in the environment. In other words, something is
breaking up and you are no longer frequency bonded to
the people in the environment in the same way; there
is a fluctuation there. What is it called when you add
too much energy to something? It becomes unstable.
Your reality construct is unstable.  That's what I would
say.  (R) You have a bigger marble that you can fit in a
bigger hole if the hole happens to be there.  (L) Right.
A: Rejoice! You are growing out of your shoes.
Q:  (L) Your feet don't fit anymore! You need new
shoes!
A: Basis: shoes.

That last answer is of course a reference to the symbology of the Ruby Red Slippers in the Wizard of Oz.



palulukon wrote:

If the dracos want to keep this race from evolving then all they have to do is keep the race from seeing that they have taken a step up the evolutionary ladder. So, our service would not be something that will be revealed at some future date, when the wave comes…but to see that the wave has come and gone…and to help bring about the awareness of such.

Comments?

It's another one of those Pandora Boxes isn't it?  Arf! Arf! Arf! smile

If I was to make my best educated guess based on my experiences and various channeled inflow I would conjecture that this statement is false and the wave hasn't pulled through yet.... sheesh, I sure hope I don't sound arrogant.  If this were true wouldn't that bring every channeled source into suspect, not to mention the Mayans, because there's a date/s forecasted beyond our present time for when the wave will occur?  Am I mistaken, or doesn't this then infer that the channeled sources are directly influenced by "Darcos" in an effort to confound us into believing we haven't yet arrived to our evolutionary rung on the ladder?

And, alas...ssppfhhh!, one also has to consider that everything is happening all at once... and that would be the fly in the ointment inside the Pandora Box, now wouldn't it? big_smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

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Re: the wave has already come, possibility

lyra wrote:

Everything felt all "wrong", the room actually LOOKED wrong, all distorted and off, the sound was "off", and even the LIGHTING color looked off......it had a yellowish appearance.   It was so bizarre.   WELL.....come to find out several years later while reading the C's material that when in a 4th density state or temporary bleed-through, 4th has a yellowish color.

Wow!  I hadn't seen this info before, about the 4D yellow color... even as a kid there were a few times I saw "reality's" color change to yellow. Bizarre!

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Re: the wave has already come, possibility

Auendove wrote:
lyra wrote:

Everything felt all "wrong", the room actually LOOKED wrong, all distorted and off, the sound was "off", and even the LIGHTING color looked off......it had a yellowish appearance.   It was so bizarre.   WELL.....come to find out several years later while reading the C's material that when in a 4th density state or temporary bleed-through, 4th has a yellowish color.

Wow!  I hadn't seen this info before, about the 4D yellow color... even as a kid there were a few times I saw "reality's" color change to yellow. Bizarre!

Hi Auendove,

Yeah, it was mentioned once very briefly in the transcripts in relation to a weird incident that happened to Laura and several others one morning.  There was some strange clap of thunder in the New Port Richey area, and one of the people in the session mentioned their room being "yellow" colored during the thunder clap, and the C's said that for 1.4 seconds or something that person had existed in 4th density.   Wish I had access to the transcripts here at work, otherwise I'd just cut and paste the excerpt.  It makes more sense there then how I'm describing it!  big_smile

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Re: the wave has already come, possibility

Well, everything “seems“? very normal today, more normal than recent.  I awaken early feeling fairly rested, unusual, and ck on a sick puppy, baby ducks, newly arrived sugar glider, make tea, walk outside…everything seems to feel very 3d…and the tape playing in the back ground “now, don’t you feel silly making all that fuss, see, it is 3d and the wave is coming and 4d has not happened yet.   See how everything is the same, see how solid everything feels?“?  Interesting as this was the same tape that played in the background after I read the c’s for the first time, silly girl, reptiles, op’s.  I mean, it looks soooooooooo normal.  Vanilla sky. 

I had a convo with my kindred last night.  He is playing with if he is connected to the totality of who he is and of the love of source then even tho strange and chaotic things are going on around him it has nothing to do with him.  Yes, he knows  in a universal sense he is connected, but in a today sense the best he can do for humanity is to manifest the wholeness of his being.  I do understand, and did play with those cards at one time.  He has connected with some people and is learning a technique, is it the pea, or pet process…where  you define your story, that is not you but your story, find the cores and collapse the polarities.  The effect is to clean the mind field.  It sounds identical to the avatar material I was heavily involved with at one time.  However, my kindred feels this material is special and has the potential to do what others have not been able to do.  I shared that whenever I got into processing it did some amazing things for awhile but reached a point where it looped.  He agreed, having been there himself, but believes this modality is different.  Remains to be seen, as it is new to him.  I do know that every time I found a new modality it was believed it was different some how.  I hope for my kindred’s that he is right.  He is not finding the need to address the 4d reptilians at this time.  Again, always to respect another’s path.  There are times I half wish I did not address the issue; ignorance is bliss as they say.  However, ultimately I would rather know than not know.  All my life I have wanted to know.  It has been the driving force. 

When I read the experience from the above link (Soloflecks) I go god, I hope that does not happen to me anytime soon…and realize the necessity to work on shoring up this free will thing, focus of attention and any other tools in the bag to deal with such.  The Twilight Zone was one of my favorite programs as a child.  About 11 years ago I had an obe that resembled the TZ; the episode where the man found himself in a town where there was no one. 

If we take this to other levels and incorporate all that we have read there is an underlying theme that we are in truth alone here in a matrix, a maze, and like the rats that are experimented on must find our way through the maze.  Reading the link from above wonder if the addictive colored drinks are a way to keep us rats from finding our way out, duh.

Also brought up with my kindred why would we think we are the top of the food chain…still amazes me that idea persist.

Anyway, very NORMAL day…hum…today is town day so will be keeping my eyes, ears and feelers open…am going to write Dobbs hopefully tonight and will report back to you all.  It is so wonderful there is a place to share these types of explorations.  I think now the next thing that would be in order is finding a way to identify  the cracks in the matrix.  We have all known this is a hologram.  What I am questioning now is it a 3d or 4d hologram.  Perhaps I have not had more success in seeing how the hologram is projected because I have been looking through a 3d interpretation.  Not sure, just wondering.

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Re: the wave has already come, possibility

Auendove wrote:

If I was to make my best educated guess based on my experiences and various channeled inflow I would conjecture that this statement is false and the wave hasn't pulled through yet....   If this were true wouldn't that bring every channeled source into suspect, not to mention the Mayans, because there's a date/s forecasted beyond our present time for when the wave will occur?... this then infer that the channeled sources are directly influenced by "Darcos" in an effort to confound us into believing we haven't yet arrived to our evolutionary rung on the ladder?

And, alas...ssppfhhh!, one also has to consider that everything is happening all at once... and that would be the fly in the ointment inside the Pandora Box, now wouldn't it? big_smile

I am not by any means sure the wave has already come…but when you consider simultaneous time then do dates really matter? 70 years give or take is less than a blink in universal time. In every channeled thing I read the entity being questioned will skirt the definite time issue.  The reason I wonder is… there was lots of info to support this transition coming several decades before now, and subsequent dates there after, supported by multiple channelings.  The dates come and go without the expected event, so a spiritual meaning is applied to the date.  I would like to believe that the wave is coming and will come at the expected date.  This is my preference absolutely.  It is only if I am willing to research the other possibility that I will know.  Don’t know how to research it but know also that clues will come.  The old saying you already know the answer; it is the question you have to figure out. 

The A bomb would indicate a quantum leap so naturally to wonder…and that dobbs was able to predict, or so I read, the Berlin Wall within days of it coming down.  Then too the correlations in the Matrix movie.  Was thinking about Matrix two last night.  We had heard it was a bust so waited to get it on video.  Was so bored I fell asleep.   Was on a real rant about the cheap shots etc, the lack of congruity.  Here they have all this  sophisticated technology, the command center, but to open the doors this archaic mass of wheels etc and the population acting like they had just come out of the jungle with all their dances reflecting base primitive sexual nuances and running around in jungle garb in contrast to the attire of command central.  Ha, had to laugh last night, the movie was actually very accurate….here with all this technology and the populations still acting like a bunch of primitives.  And yes, all the tech at command center but to open the door still using cumbersome outdated means. 

And again on the channeling…seems to be some unwritten code that the entity sharing information cannot share more than is already “suspected“?…like they cannot say something that will be so altering it will interfere with a natural course of events, sto anyway.  Think how mind boggling it would have been if the c’s had said hey, guess what, this wave passed through and you are all in 4d and the reptilians are projecting a 3d hologram to keep the indigenous race centered in a negative polarity so go out and tell everyone that will listen.  This is just exploring a possible reality…and it is just exploring.  There are some things we have to “discover“? for ourselves.  I know that if I am willing to ask questions that seem absurd to me  it is the only way I will get answers.  I hope the answer is the wave is still “coming“?.  But I cannot ignore the question has it already come…that is all.

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