1 Topic by panda (edited by leisuresuitlissy 2007-02-19 01:27:53)

  • From: Melbourne
  • Registered: 2007-02-01

Topic: What do you make of this?

Hello everyone. I did a search about a similar subject on these forums but came  up with nothing and wanted to know if anyone had experienced anything similar, and if so, what conclusions you came to.  So here goes:

A couple of years ago my closest friend of 10 years committed suicide.   

The night after he died, I was drifting off (still mostly awake), and all at the same time I felt the following things:
Being dragged backwards up the wall slowly,
Uncomfortable awareness of my pulse in my neck
My tongue expanding until it felt like it was the size of a mandarin.

I can't express how vivid this all was, it wasn't a dream.

I jerked back to being awake, terrified, and a painting came off its hook. 

He had hanged himself, and while I knew this, at that point, I wasn't aware of the exact condition he was found in, and I will spare you the unpleasant details, but it turns out that he didn't hang himself from high enough to break his neck.

Because I was already mad with grief, I had always dismissed it as 'mad-with-grief mind reconstructing events' - that's the easiest and least incriminating explanation I've come up with anyway wink.  I'm also open to the possibility that it was a visit, but I have no idea why such a horrible visit was necessary.

Anyways, I just thought I'd put this out there, wondering if anybody has experienced something similar, or has any insight into a scenario like this.

Thanks for reading this.

  • Registered: 2006-08-21

Re: What do you make of this?

They will visit you. My grandmother choked to death on her own blood. Next night I wake up because I feel someone looking at me. I see this shadow person standing by my bed. I knew it was her and I was terrified. I didn't want to face her or what she went through. So I passed out from my own fear.

3 Reply by Athenais

  • Athenais
  • Guest

Re: What do you make of this?

You were close friends so of course he would visit you.  I'm sure he didn't intend to horrify you.  He was in extreme shock over what had happened so he wasn't coming to you to scare you or upset you.  When people pass over in a violent or traumatic way, they might relive those events indefinitely until they are able to come to terms with it.  Sometimes people close to that person will relive those events too.  This can happen the night after someone dies, or 20 years later, time doesn't make any difference.  Your friend has most likely visited you other times in a quieter state of mind to check in on you and see how you are doing.  Don't hold yourself responsible for the way he died, he never meant to for you to feel that way.  You couldn't have stopped it. 

Sending you a huge ((((((((((((((((HUG))))))))))))))))

  • Registered: 2006-08-05

Re: What do you make of this?

Suicide is a tragedy, even on the other side of death. There the person gets stuck on earth, in the earthly realm, he can't go in the higher realms where he should go. They need help and we living beings can help them to become conscious of their situation, of the reasons why it was wrong to commit suicide, and what to do to repair this, i.e. go into theb light and come back on earth in a future life to confront again his inner dragon that drove him to suicide.

Eleusian mysteries had many levels of meaning but one of them was to show how tragic suicide is, and that you must never do that! This was the sad and tragic fate of Core-Persephone.


In the past, I already felt so bad that I thought I should give everything up and let myself die quietly. But I knew about wandering souls that committed suicide, and who deep in trouble they are on the other side of death, stuck in a nightmare that never ends... This made me aware of the consequences of suicide and, in the end, I always figured out that I was better to be alive and filled with grief and sadness than being a wandering dead soul, because souls that committed suicide feel unimaginable (though not eternal) HELL on the other side. Believe me, you can't imagine this amount of suffering and hell that await the people who commit suicide.  They so much need the help of the living. We should pray for them to become aware of themselves, of their mistake, and turn back into the light.

I know some will say that going into the light is not good because it leads to reincarnation. Well, I say if you think you do not have to reincarnate, you're a victim of spiritual deception. Lucifer wants you to never reincarnate and thus never improve yourself spiritually, just feel the void bliss of light-cloud-comfort far above and disconnected from any earthly responsibility...

  • Registered: 2005-10-15

Re: What do you make of this?

"Uncomfortable awareness of my pulse in my neck"

I get this probably on average once a week when I wake up in the middle of the night.  It feels like its pulsating on overdrive when I just wake up but when I try to feel it with my hand it does not feel any different than normal.  I still dont know what to make of it but it has been happening for about 8-10 months now.

so i'm not sure if that prominent feeling in your neck ties in with my common occurances since it has happened only once for you

  • JM25
  • JM25
  • Member
  • Offline
  • From: Western Australia
  • Registered: 2006-01-10

Re: What do you make of this?

I personally dont feel that suicide reaps consequences like those described above... I do know that a lot of people believe that but I think it could also be a scare tactic to discourage people from taking the "short cut" so to speak...  People who feel the need to commit suicide may have more to learn and therefore may choose to come back in a different form to "try again".  But hey, I dont know!  Thats just what I feel.

Fear is the unknown!
  • From: Melbourne
  • Registered: 2007-02-01

Re: What do you make of this?

YOU have the right to end YOUR life whenever you choose.

I completely agree with that, and recognise that sentiment as probably the only positive aspect of the situation. 

Anyway thanks for all your thoughts (and for the hug). smile

  • lhs
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2007-03-08

Re: What do you make of this?

The night after he died, I was drifting off (still mostly awake), and all at the same time I felt the following things:
Being dragged backwards up the wall slowly,
Uncomfortable awareness of my pulse in my neck
My tongue expanding until it felt like it was the size of a mandarin....................................i admire your intent......mine is coming from the 3rd person emotionally detached.........your aware of how we etherically chord up with each other......the ones we are closest to seem to have the tighter and denser connections....some times we can communicate emotionally accuratley from opposite sides of the planet right.....we are dealing with energetic etheric chords which are composed of these tiny-tiny little balls that some call biophotons that shoot off at all times in all directions....we can literally and visually see them if we choose......these make up or compose these etheric chords or bands that connect us at times.......they are behind the concept of the internet and the e/mailing message system for example............'leisuresuitlissy', from what you have shared you would appear to have been chorded up with your friend.........when he left this place he would be taking his energy with him and just leaving behind a residue of which some refer to a morphic resonance.....thats the memory that we leave behind for others that accept holding on to these nearly invisable message carriers.............now, you had this event occur the day after he left......you were still holding onto his imprint......he had to go or he would of had to stay......it would appear as though he transcended which is something positive to reflect on.....upon exiting his imprint left your own etheric bubble via your physical body.....you processed his imprint upon his ascent......it probaly felt as though he was close by for a moment.....you more than likley felt what he felt for an instant within his last moments this go around....quite possibly his reallity experience of potential physical and emotional pain only lasted a brief moment as well....this is good to know i feel....it should lessen any potential emotional trauma.... just by .the painting falling down could have been a force of will on your behalf within the reaction of the moment....we are very powerful....we have that capacity and its easy to fathom for myself only by reading your description of events 3rd person.......i believe one can also perceive that painting falling as a symbolic gesture from the other side as so you could come to eventual peace with this situation.......who really knows whats possible outside our paradigms yet there have been thousands of deep hypnotic studies of the 'super consciousness' that would lead one to believe that the painting was a symbolic gesture so as one couldmake sense and move on according to ones belief system....................your heart will eventually reveal to you the answer your seeking.....these things are there for us when we're ready........................................one last tid bit......all your feelings,sensations, the act of hanging itself all revolve around our 5th energy center in the throat region......ultimatley its all about speaking our truth in this life or the process of feeling that we are accomplishing so well enough that energy is not getting caught up there.......left side is our catabolic side which breaks down incoming energy for processing.......right side is the anabolic side or projection portal for outgoing energy that has already been cumalitivly processed through conjunction with the rest of our chakras......keep in heart as to which side to scratched your throat on that night.....that may of been what your friend was wrestling with.........if in fact the memory and thought patterns still exist of your friend, the event, the deeper meaning, etc then you can go about healing those aspects of your own self which in turn will transmute any potentially lingering biophotons that are essentially responsable for these recurrant patterns.....you may have been linked together at that energy center pimarily....that may have been your agreement or contract with him that occurs in the fleetingly brief moments before we initiaaly coonect with another person....who knows yet yourself.....i know that we can heal those around us by healing those aspects of ourselves anoymously....what happens is that we transmute the etheric biophotons in question within ourselves and then the next time we revolve energy with others then they will atleast have the imprint of a healed emotional wound within them even temporarily.........its all part of the gravitational process which includes this transmission above........take it easy.....i admire your courage in seeking closure....namaste