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Absolutely beautiful, Nexus. You never cease to amaze me.

Although aimed at Fertiv, that was for us all.

Thank you.

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i cant believe that happened-- i just lost a long complicated post.  it cant have happened.  i dont know what went on there.  and after i got it up and going and had scribefire all cleared out and ready to go.  just hit submit.   well.  skip that i guess.  will just have to summarize.  maybe thats better anyway, altho it does not help me show the correlations and correspondences.  i had gone back up to tell nexus something and that ferit will respond as he will, in kind, if he is compelled to do so.  (nice prose and poetry nexus, and we do enjoy ur sermons, as titmouse says).  and was wanting to say that lilmomma's unreal synch with the technical paper brought in (hydrocarbons, silica, clay, and sand) at the same time the girlfriend saw fluffy was too much.

i had found old quotes from the famous Metatron, from 1995, or earlier, the supposed orig magnetic master who said ascension is biological in '95.  the human body will light-encode and join the etheric body.  that ascension is an experiment thats never been done in this sector.  that the outcome is still sort of unexpected.  that encoding affects the DNA, 'aligns' it.  old stuff.  what's even older is the seth stuff.  who says he/it is a consciousness unit, similar to what RA says he/it is.  jump right in.

from DivineCosmos,and they/he wants ppl that quote his stuff that it DOES come from him and his site.  ok.  This is excerpted from the end portions of "The Seth Material," the original debut of Jane Roberts’ channeling efforts in 1971.  Seth has already told us that the universe rises out of “cubes within cubes” in a universe made up of “a myriad of interconnecting wires, constantly trembling.”  As stated, this is literally identical to superstring theory, which also discusses cubes within cubes as “hypercubes,” and builds the universe on a matrix of interconnecting strings that vibrate.  For the rest of this, we will present the words of Seth from the appendix section of “The Seth Material,” which help us to understand how the basic spherical units of energy in the Cosmos interact with each other....as it provided crucial data that was missing in Ra’s own Law of One series.

Now: there are electromagnetic structures, so to speak, that are presently beyond your (scientific) instruments, units that are the basic carriers of perception. They have a very brief “life” in your terms.  Their size varies.  Several units may combine, for example; many units may combine.  To put this as simply as possible, it is not so much that they move through space, as that they use space to move through.  There is a difference.

Note: This may seem complicated at first, but once we see that what Seth calls “space” is in fact the aetheric energy, it makes sense. Since the units are made of aetheric energy, they must use aetheric energy to travel. They are not self-contained “particles” that move through an empty vacuum.

In a manner of speaking, thermal qualities are involved, and also laws of attraction and repulsion.  The units charge the air through which they pass, and draw to them other units.  The units are not stationary in the way that, say, a cell is stationary within the body.  Even a cell only appears stationary. These units have no “home.”  They are built up in response to emotional intensity.   They are one form that emotional energy takes.  They follow their own rules of attraction and repulsion.  As a magnet, you see, will attract with its filaments, so these units attract their own kind and form patterns, which then appear to you as perception.

Cells are not just responsive to light because this is the order of things, but because an emotional desire to perceive light is present. Note: This idea of an “emotional desire to perceive light” conforms with cutting-edge research cited by Gregg Braden in his various books.  The work of Garaiev and Poponin entitled the “DNA Phantom Effect” has found that a DNA molecule can be inserted in a cylinder with light passing through it, and the DNA will actually attract the light and cause it to spiral through the molecule!  Furthermore, when the DNA is removed, the light continues to spiral as if the DNA were still there. (We will have a lot more to say about this in Volume III, as it relates to evolution and how the torsion wave forms the DNA molecule.)  This is obviously a very strange finding, but we can see that Seth helps us to understand it; the DNA has an “emotional desire to perceive light,” as it naturally attracts light into itself.  This might not seem possible until we realize that all life and matter has some degree of consciousness, since it is made of “intelligent energy.”  The desire appears on this other level in the form of these electromagnetic units, which then cause a light sensitivity.

These emanations rise as naturally as breath, and there are other comparisons that can be made, in that there is a coming in and a going out, and transformation within the unit, as what is taken into the lungs, for example, is not the same thing that leaves on the exhale stroke.  You could compare these units, simply for an analogy, to the invisible breath of consciousness. This analogy will not carry us far, but it will be enough initially to get the idea across.  Breath is, of course, also a pulsation, and these units operate in a pulsating manner.  They are emitted by the cells, for example, in plants, animals, rocks, and so forth.  They would have color if you were able to perceive them physically.  {spherical energy fields}

They are electromagnetic, in your terms, following their own patterns of positive and negative charge, and following also certain laws of magnetism.  In this instance, like definitely attracts like.  The emanations are actually emotional tones.  The varieties of tones, for all intents and purposes, are infinite.  Consciousness actually produces these emanations, and they are the basis for any kind of perception, both sensory in usual terms and extrasensory.

Note: Russian research into torsion fields has validated Seth’s statements here, as these fields are indeed non-electromagnetic in nature, having qualities that are more similar to gravitational waves. There is extensive evidence that we will cover in this series to show how these torsion fields relate to consciousness.  we talked about that and relationships and initiation were related to such weeks ago.  its all about emotion.  and i think thats what the aliens want.  some of them.  human emotion.  or at least the capacity for emotion which they lack, as do OP's, mimics, pathocrats, theocrats, crims, TPTB, and ponerologists, et al.

... having a structure but a nonphysical one, and being of a pulsating nature, they can expand or contract.  They can completely envelop, for example, a small cell, or retreat to the nucleus within.  They combine qualities of a unit and a field, in other words.  This is a very astute point that fits perfectly with the model, such as with the idea of “fluid crystals.”  Intensity governs not only their activity and size, but the relative strength of their magnetic nature.  They will draw other such units to them, for example, according to the intensity of the emotional tone of the particular consciousness at any given “point.”  Seth is telling us that the amplitude of the spherical wave is actually a function of the emotional intensity that went into its creation.

Clumps of them (Jane gestured - her delivery was quite emphatic and animated) will be drawn together, literally sealed, only to drop away and disperse once more.....There is a constant blending, and also attraction and repulsion....The shifting of polarity occurs in rhythm with changing emotional intensities, or emotional energies, if you prefer.....The “initial” originating emotional energy that sets any given unit into motion, and forms it, then causes the unit to become a highly charged electromagnetic field with those characteristics of changing polarities just mentioned.

thats enuf there.  the point is made about round, spherical, emotions, emotional intensity and the units.  the changing even of polarity.  it goes on and discusses triality.  i have to stop there.  seth says the inner ego, the inner self directs the electromagnetic energy and the consciousness units.  "In a healthy personality, the inner self easily projects all experience into EE units, where they are translated into actuality.....So with this segment, we can easily begin to pick up how familiar our Higher Selves must be with these units of consciousness."

in the older days, the seth material could make one's head hurt.  but nowadays, further along on the initiation scale, i get it.  it took alot of reading and comprehension.   what i remember most was how hot and heated up (all that emotional intensity seth had in trying to illustrate these complicated subjects on EMOTIONAL INTENSITY) that had Jane all pooped and they had to take breaks alot.  seth used to get sooo excited in relaying this.  i loved him/it for that.  such good stuff he /it brought in for humans.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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..

nexus wrote:

I AM your higher- Self.
....
Hear Me now and know My heart...

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{All}

smile

Good God!!

Fun fact: Great Tits are common in Europe

To know love is to know trust; to know oneself is to know truth
~~carefulcarpenter


1+1=1

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cant quit yet.  gotta show ya the unreal part, as if that werent, what they said next.  on archetypes and all this.  of course, those match up with the difft symbols of the difft tarot decks, and initiations.  i particularly want Seeking to see this.

ARCHETYPES AND THE HARMONIC DIMENSIONS
Essentially, the theory behind the archetypes is that all life experiences that anyone could have may be refined and organized into a common series of events.  Each archetypal event would then be a necessary part of learning our lessons in Spiritual Growth in order to advance further.  According to Ra, there are certain lessons that each density teaches us, which we must pass through in order to achieve the vibratory level necessary for the next level.  Each vibratory level, then, could be likened to an archetype for a specific lesson that needs to be learned, for each of the three parts of our being; spiritual, mental, and physical.

It is then fascinating to see that these 22 can be likened to three “scales” of seven, (7 x 3 = 21,) with the 22nd archetype, the Fool, existing outside of the others as a separate card.

The definition of the Fool is interesting, in that it depicts a man walking forward at the edge of a cliff, with a stick that has a small purse at the end of it, which is balanced over his shoulder.  He looks to the sky and holds a flower in his other hand, apparently walking totally unaware of the cliff he stands in front of, while a white dog barks incessantly at him, trying to warn him of the danger.  The purse is supposed to represent the stored up knowledge of universal memory, which he carries with him.  A quote from Sidney and Bennett’s book on the Tarot reads, “It is said that the Fool “possesses the foolishness of God, which is greater than the wisdom of men.”   It could well be stated, then, that for anyone to fully attain this wisdom in the material plane, they would be so obviously out of place as to appear a fool, moron or idiot.  Yet, time and time again, this unwavering faith proves itself to be of the highest caliber.

If we do not have the faith, then we will never know if our opinions of “doom” were right until the event has already passed. Apparently, there will be more than one opportunity to Ascend over the course of a relatively brief period of time, but it is important to prepare ourselves for the first “wave”, as it is often called.

The three cycles of seven archetypes correspond to the initiation of the mind, body and spirit, emphasizing our need to address all three areas equally in our spiritual growth process.

In other works, Seth repeatedly indicates that the body, and in fact all matter, is constantly turning on and off, or pulsating through the different dimensions. Each consciousness unit must cycle through all of the densities in the octave constantly, at tremendous speed, even though it remains “focused” in one density most strongly.  What this proves is that there really is no such thing as a separate density: in one sense, they are all blending directly into each other constantly.  What is so fascinating about this is the idea that it is our perceptions, our thoughts, which hold together the level of reality that we are on.

its just initiation, most of the time.  and one has to do it aware.  the whole point of death hygiene too is to do it aware.  its a test of awareness.  all the time.  all the cosmic jokes and experimenting is indeed exhausting.  and having all the human emotions is too.  im so tired from waking up almost every night at 3AM.  its pooping me out.  the easy job is going too as the practice has been sold and im not a team player.  been along with removing a spirit attachment/entity out of my sister's house over the last 2 weeks.  it was full of rage.  at one point i said so send it to me and i'll battle the piece of shit.  wrong move.  my big mouth.  it circled me around the ankles for a bit and i got scared.  i had to go outside (not nude) but in the sun.  i opened everything.  i felt it coming forth.  it was either that or do SOMETHING to help her til help came.  got even more scared.  so i had a talk with myself.  whattsa matter oh great warrior queen?  u chickening out?  u r very foolish.  it wasnt mine to take on but i wanted to f*ck with it.  let it know who it was dealing with.  the bloodline.  i had to use what powers i have and am developing.  it was a test for me.  frickin fool.  my spine has been cracko since.  lower kundalini.  drained i'll tell ya.

so i get it.  another initiation and this shit was not so fun, but real applicable.  i practiced like i was confronting something on the realm border.  focus, concentration, breathing, activate, command central third eye, activate the pineal.  direct force in a triangle like beam of intent with a fluffy gaze and im not kiddin.  the look.  it worked out on the driveway.  i took it outside into sunlight.  the great light of the sun beat down.  i see how fear played in.  giving other stuff power.  i felt almost instantly protected by forces and self but was still wavering.  that crap does that u know.  i was ready to draw my sword.  that part was so welcome and neat.  i loved every microsecond of that part, let me tell ya.  all archetypal forces merged there.  (i had told her about the sword before professional help came that day).  this all had to be planned too so the anticipation was killer.  we had called in a professional.  this is not my specialty by any means,  and im another state, over 2500- 3000 miles away.  i didnt plan that just felt way bad for her.  in the beginning of it i realized could be used for 'target practice."  AHA.  more training and preparedness.  who woulda thot?  and the TP and pamelajean stuff being out in the sun gave me the message to go out there.  it was a brilliant idea from reading on here.  go out INTO THE SUN.  im in recovery mode, will be fine.  bake shit's ass.  so the pro says..."we gotta get it out of these sharp corners here kid, likes to hide and settle in dark angled sharp corners, where walls angle and behind doors ..."  okey dokey then.  im off here for now.  i just had to tell u guys and debated doing so.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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I would just like to say that I believe 'Like attracts Like' on the higher levels, but on the lower (material planes), 'Opposites Attract'.

You see this, for example, when a white, blond haired woman, will be attracted to a black man, based upon mutual sexual desire. You see a giant 6' 11 man, married to a 4' 2 woman (and vice versa). You see young woman marrying rich, ugly farts, Victoria Spice marrying David Beckham, and all stages and preferences, in between. Whether these pairings happen through pre-determined-self-choice, or not is up for grabs. But I believe that these (and all  people) can compliment each other, by their differences, to make a whole.

I have worked with magnets, and if you put two 'like poles' together, they will absolutely repel. Reverse the polarity (turn one magnet 180 degrees, and they will attract - hmmmm. pole shift = shift in paradigm??). But I think these are 3D laws, related to magnetism, and this 3D plane. 

On the other hand, when people can move beyond the carnal (3D), and towards the spiritual (5D+), people of like minds, (for example here at NR), can gather together, (whether for STS (4D) or STO (5D), both are beyond (questionably for STS), the carnal (3D)), I believe this end of the scale is higher vibrational frequency (electromagnetically enhanced).

I have tried to determine which is true, but that would only be a dualistic answer.

'Like attracts like' on higher levels, and 'Opposites attract' on lower levels, and a mixture of both occurs within a lifetime, at different levels of perception.

I realise this isn't making much sense, but maybe the base attraction is magnetic (3D), the higher vibration is electro-magnetic (4D=not pure)), and the purest vibration is just pure undiluted sound frequency (5D).

If* you can control your emotions (External Magnetic Influence-3D), and rise above your feelings (EMF from direct 4D influence/manipulation), then you can begin to tune into the higher 5D influences.

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More connectivity/synthesis/direct seeing.
Like David Bohm who sought to directly perceive the nature of reality rather than work out equations/translations relating to the physical world. He was interested in the actual implications of accurate physical theory and what it said about what/where we really are in the universe on all levels at once, in the understanding it's a unified whole... while the senses tend to mislead as to the reality/solidity of the world that appears on this level, he saw into the harmony of the explicate order (what we see)with the implicate order (sub-atomic level or "where it all springs from")

Zenden wrote:

And how do you begin running your own show? By practicing [size=12]self-observation[/size]. Develop your ability to stand back and observe your own mental and emotional functioning as if you were a zoologist studying the living habits of animals. Describe what you see and take notes. Ornstein states: "Under the stimulus of self-observation, the mental operating system seems to begin to change and the fixed links between action and reaction are loosened, leaving room for some serious choices and redirection of the mind."

I would suggest it's even more radical than that.
This central "point" of how consciousness actually works, hits upon something i was hoping you would come to in this spiraling, sprawling net of curiosity matrices that the one mind (manifested variously by each of us) easily accesses as a NR "topic" here.
hehe (Thanks Zenden!)

Awareness (like "space"/aether) itself is the underlying "structure" of which all worlds, all matter, including whatever planet we are collectively imagining we are on... including the brain which creates the image/illusion of the "I" and the confidence/belief structure in how well or expansively it operates.
Just as the magnetic "structures" created by varieties of emotional intensity create short-lived perception, this awareness allows a longer lived perception, if we are willing to "do awareness in a continual way" rather than merely read and spew theories/possibilities.
These ideas/speculations are as endless as the sea and this topic appears to be. And all of them touching on a part of the truth while none of them contain the whole. The problem of trying to problem solve with a limited process (thought) like the brain's
Yet the whole is here all the while we frantically search for it. Right under our noses.
This first central "law" of awareness/consciousness is what makes the transition to the fourth.
Like an architect must build a design in mind, a "un"structure before anyone can build it in the 3d world, we must know the patterns and relationships intrinsically, effortlessly before we can "ascend"
(like a bird does not think about or intentionally make the movements that allow it to fly, it is already 2nd nature).
Not by mere intellectual knowledge but the "i am" at the root of consciousness which is the same in each of the seeming individuals reading this.

Zenden wrote:

As a magnet, you see, will attract with its filaments, so these units attract their own kind and form patterns, which then appear to you as perception.

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Pamelajean wrote:
The lure of conscious thinking is what seduced me into the mystic in the first place.  The Tao asks: What would if feel like to control every thought you have?  It blew me away.  At that time, I don't think I controlled any of my thoughts so the question sounded so foreign, so illusive and at the same time, so alluring.  I was compelled to get my foot in the door of the koan, but how?  It took years and years.  A few thousand years into this thought control thing, I heard another koan, and it sealed fate and acted as my seduction into the art of introspection.  The question was "What would it feel like to control the manifestation of your thoughts".  That was it for me, no going back. 
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You would not believe how many people think only their words and actions count.  Now that I think of it, the concept probably was never given any length of attention, for my lacking any confidence that control of thought was possible.  I wonder how I had come across that illusion or delusion?  Whatever it may be.

When I began to address the issue, I remember mentioning it to a friend and he actually stood up confrontationally and emphatically denied the assertion as being groundless.  It is actually pretty simple, thoughts have to be changed into another form if somehow my line of thought goes in a direction unworthy.  If I simply push it out of my head, or repress it, whatever place I sent it to, can not hold it inescapably. 

Now to make it seem worse, the mind processes emotions much faster than rational thought, I don't know what to do about that, except to maintain harmlessness at least physically, and so I only go through the negative emotion within and possibly with words spoken.  I'm going to experiment with withholding laughter unless I've recently been negative.  Everytime I put on the ring with the Diamond and the Emerald, I will carry out this behavior.  Una Salus victis.

Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement.
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You have to believe in the impossible in order to become.

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nexus wrote:

A hypothetical reply to feritciva's 'declaration of independence' from God:   from post #120 :

Feritciva,

I AM your higher- Self.
I might speak in different terms,
Of magnetics and ascension
But this is personal. I hear you feritciva.
Hear Me now and know My heart...

yikes


WOW!! I wasn't expecting that quick and direct answer from HS. Really no metaphors, no symbols this time! Thanks for being the perfect vehicle Nexus. You wouldn't know how this post helps me! smile

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

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zenden wrote:

...long story and its not like me.  i am old now, im sorta beat, my old menopausal body is draggin, but shes all i got, and i love her.  she goes nude in the dark and in the sun.  she doesnt get sick much.  she carries me every damn day.  (I HEAR U pamelajean).  she gets up, shes glad she slept, shes up and running, she makes coffee, she thinks about ppl she loves, she thinks about NR, she hopes ppl are making their own connections, she vibes ppl, she sends light and information, she worries.  she laughs.  she wishes she was drunk and doing dionysian rituals.  and shes still in 3d but barely feels like it much of the time.   and ill tell ya this--SHE/i will never lay down, will never drag up the welding lead before a job undone, will never ever give up,  will never stop, will never submit,  will never ever surrender, but will go on for SOUL DEVELOPMENT.  the choice has been made.  that is the most important part.  soul development.  and while im AT IT, since the whole damn thing started with an absolute unflinching unwavering desire for spiritual knowledge= its all been SOUL RESEARCH.  thats what i do, all i care about.  i will see if i can do anything, do something, anything, about this damn thing called death.  foil the CRATS.  screw up their crap, destroy their world, RUIN their plan(s).  upset the mess.  use the Kristos/christ consciousness, the consciousness of at least one, if not the master revolutionary, higher beings, to quiet this rebel blood.  i do NOT care about anything else.  nothing.  its the quest for me. in that is unbounded love for the HUMAN family of MAN.  a responsibility is there.  and i remember this, this vow, this vow of sorts--"I was a child of light, and I had given my word."  we have all lived thru major vicissitudes, we are still pumpin.  this is the penultimate holy grail task for me.  of this, there IS NO DOUBT.  and im keeping busy, having fun, growing and passing time, living in the now, despite not wanting to, and pressing on.  most of the time, i have my eyes squinted just like fluffy.

I Love You, Zen! smile

I Love You ALL ! smile

Glad I found some time this Holiday to read around in here!

Love and Light and Listen...Love and Light and Listen...Love and Light and Listen!!!
It is ALL coming together...right now... In The NOW!

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ATTENTION FERITCIVA--this is UNFORGIVEABLE.  there is NO WAY i couldve missed it.  how can it be?  it is the timing, always the timing and the cosmic jokes.  my biggest in days but that is ALL that is continually happening.  cosmic and family jokes and spirits and solstices and swirling whirling forces that keep tickling the ankles.  and theyre not 'BAD.'  synch-NESS beyond measure.  i only READ UR POST WHEN U RETURNED ON 12/22  NOW.  this moment.  this day.  ur entry #120.  i was aghast.  unbelieveable, yet it all IS.  how could i have missed that???--the sharing of ur dream in Italy, the old woman and the structures, the fullerene which i stared at yesterday when posting and thot "nah, they'll see it, just move on."   the spheres, the DNA and (how it looked kinda like it was binding into one at the bottom of the pic, or so as my mind sees it to be or could...be), the idea of consciousness units as one and yet individual and all of us grinding away at the mysteries.  the next steps in 'human" evolution, ur remarkable and beautiful comment on the operating minds at NR.  such a gift to have read that today.  the grand cathedral with the spires ever reaching up, to touch the sky, built by the masters who feel so close to us.  ur fantastic imagination, which is so much like mine, and other NR'ers here, which blends and resonates.  the not remembering yet the knowing, of the incredible things/understandings u told ur friends of, as kids.  what  u KNEW then so young.  all u have known for so long.  who u are TODAY.  everything, and more in that post carries deep weight.  is understood and implied more than words could say. the meaning, inspiration, clues, keys, symbols are taken in, assimilated.  the weblink u provided took me to depths of amazement.  just saw it now.  2 days later.  completely missed ur post til NOW.  im repeating myself, as usual.  the title, and content therein blew out sockets today.  must fully pay attention and absorb and comment on that, in a few.  not enuf adjectives here, quite obviously.  the poem of nexus to u/us which i had to re-read again, today, and digest.   did u think or know or feel i missed it?  i most certainly did and its unforgiveable, and uncanny.  finally caught the error of omission right after attempting to watch Blue's video links from the sacred rose/bluestar site which is resurrected.  imagine the thots after watching the content there, and finding YOUR post #120.   FORGIVE THAT my friend, and know there is no further error of omission on my part to occur again.  the connecting links are strong.  i am on "holiday" in my mind thinking of you, DanB, feedbaxlow, and our dear friends/contributors on this thread.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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Hi Zenden,
I've also lost long posts like you have.  It's got something to do with either of two things.  If you hit "Ctrl" - letter" by mistake instead of "Shift"- letter" for a capital,  something strange happens.  The other one is if you hit "Enter" to go to a new line you can lose everything if you've waited too long to do it.  It seems after a certain time "Enter" = search... and off it goes ... to hell it seems.

I'm glad you liked the poem too friends.  Thankyou for what you do.

Can grit and zeal raise a soul?  It can when wed to christ within.

"Not by [human] might and power
saith the Lord,
But by my Spirit"  [All powerful and All mighty] 

Enjoy your Christ Mass, friends
You Are.

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Hey guys. Finally able to get back on here...

I'd just like to say thanks to all of you. For being you. For being here. For making life bearable.

PJ, ferit, zen, momma, TP, siriarc, nexus, NM, blue.....all of you...thank you so much.

I'm sorry. I've been extremely wonky for a while now. I have cried so many tears that it's no wonder I'm dehydrated.  I don't know how much more I can take. I'm so freakin alone. it really sucks. I have been so strong. So strong. I don't know how I ever got this far. but I'm really tired now. all of it just weighs on me. everything. I am trying to keep my 'life' together. How hard it is when all you think about is spirituality and creation and 'god', and the answers that you get are totally not what you thought they were, or wished they were, and at the same time try to live a normal life with normal people.

Zen, I'm really sorry I got your thread de-railed. I'll try to steer it back smile

I wanted to mention something I read this weekend. I was looking for snowflake patterns to cut out with the little one, and came across an article that caught my eye, in regards to this thread.  It was talking about how paper snowflakes look fake cuz people make them with four sides, when in nature snowflakes are 6-sided.  I guess I didn't realize that information. Or I did, but never gave it any thought. But yeah.  Six sides to the snowflake. Hmmm.

Oh and since I can't link you to that one article I was talking about in the Backwoods home magazine, I thought I'd type in manually the couple paragraphs I told you about.  So John Silveira wrote a sci-fi novel titled 'The Perfect Defense', and the first chapter was printed in the premier issue of BHM, back in 89.  In this (current) issue, he talks about that book and basically recaps what he wrote about almost twenty years ago. Ya know, the computers becoming sentient and taking over...so here's just a few paragraphs from this article (bold empasis is mine)

John wrote:

.....In an article in the June 21, 1999 issue of Business Week, Otis Port wrote about the possibility of producing neurosilicon computers. They would be hybrid "biocomputers" that mate living nerve cells, or neurons, with silicon circuits.

Still sound far-fetched? Groundwork was laid for this at places like Georgia Tech and the Institute of Mathematical Sciences in Madras, India, among others.  Initially, the experiments used neurons from "lower" life-forms such as spiny lobsters and mussels. But, eventually, the scientists made artificial neurons from electronic parts bought at a Radio Shack that succeeded in fooling the real neurons into accepting them as other "real" neurons. In other words, they had created a synthetic, though primitive, nervous system...

and check this out

....But the principle problem with answering the question of whether it's possible for a computer to think is that not only do we not yet know what makes our own brains work, we don't even know what consciousness is.  Some people in the field believe consciousness doesn't actually esixt; it's just an illusion--whatever that means....

Right.

Well, obviously John is somewhat aware.  That last sentence was gold.  Consciousness just an illusion?  Hmmm....

Oh, yeah and did you read that thread Lyra started and Morningsun bumped up lately? the 'who built the moon' thread?  I just read that a couple days ago, and it's a good one.  I've not watched Dark City, that movie, buy I have the feeling that I know why I haven't. I think some part of me will recognize the truth in it, and that's why I haven't allowed myself to watch it. The matrix was bad enough. I do think it's very similar to our reality, but from what Lyra says, Dark City is a closer match.  I don't know if I want to see it....

Well, gotta go for now.

133 (edited by zenden 2008-01-09 12:19:33)

Re: Magnetics and Ascension

i lost a cpl of last words over on the WIH thread.  i said death is so 3D.  more programming that deserves rejection.  that same prolific writer has some other good stuff i wanted to show u guys.  and this is not 'new.'  i also read the other day (Seeking--thot of u instantly) that the story of bees is so ancient.  and that their hexagonal bee hive design is indicative of the way DNA is structured.  it is designed exactly like how DNA replicates itself submolecularly.  between proof of the othogonal theory and then back to hexagonal and even orthagonal.  wow.   oh the honey of life.  and the mysteries.  check out this next stuff.  http://www.spiritinform.com/2012.htm   A dismantling of old codes and programs.

thats what its all about.  losing the old ways, the old stuff, the status quo.  a screamin and a kickin.  it simply has to go.  and thats why i keep praying (to myself, the ethers, the great central sun, the orange cloud, the masters that have ascended, the ones who have it down correctly and are waiting for us to join, to gain ranks), that i believe so much in wanting 2012 to shift it, simply because i want the old stuff gone, transformed, transmuted, BURNED.  so new and more wonderful things/existences can shine forth.  be available.  emerge.  cant tolerate the old ways.  it aint all gonna get gone tho, in 2012, i see more and more that its a doorway, a portal thru.  the first wave so to say.  and again, back to the old SSOA and mila.  i still think their stuff holds great data, if one is inclined to mine for it.  they go on and on about the central sun, and incomplete ascension.  thats all in this.  i believe that we have tried to do it, but not en masse.  and not enough by individuals seeking sovreignty.  the biorelativity intervention wasnt strong enuf.  look that up.  i think thats how some crats got stuck.  or crat candidates got stuck then set up shop in the realms.  and more hierarchal deputies and their overlords continued to suck, build loosh palaces and all got thwarted.  it is a strong upheld belief that this sector of the universe simply cannot be pleased with itself.  it has to be yearning for change itself.  it must be so.  what lifeforce could accept this and call it home?  forever?  what a travesty.  no living thing could want to accept things the way they are and have been.  even mollusks must be disgusted by now.  when there is so much more.  ok then, we've had the experience.  move this sector on out and up.  for christ-sakes and i mean it and used his name.  for gods-sake even.  come on.  "All possible potentials have been extracted from the human experience."  no shit. 

The planet is currently in a readjustment process and aligned for transference from the sun which stands as the translator of specific codes or energy patterns to be fed to the planet from central sun the main power plant for our system.  There has been an increase in solar flairs which are very much related to the much dreaded global warming.  It is important that we no longer view this occurrence from a fantasy standpoint but rather from the depth of who you are as a cosmic traveler, astronaut/scientist/spirit/source.

"Let go of the fantasy! Many, many distractions related to the old concept will increasingly present themselves as there are a number of potential endings that have been written into the 2012 closure. Life is both an experiment and an experience and although the old game/concept will come to an end it does not mean that it will come to an end in the minds of many. Quite a few will hold the old format or blueprint in their being as we have all grown comfortable with these old programs. Such beings will continue to live a variation of old concepts associated with the old earth but these will simply be a recorded past, an old hologram one that will be played over and over again until it is realized that they have been living in the past. Well guess what…this is what we have been living. This is the past!  These cycles come and go creating cyclic portals for those wishing to exit the past and move forward into a freer and more fluid experience.  As the brain shifts out of the mode of rewind new neuro pathways are created in the brain.  Magnetic field has been proven to promote the growth of neurons in certain areas of the brain.  Here is a quote taken from The Holographic Canvas:  “The brain operates off of electrical signals in the form of an image. Sensory stimuli are processed in the brain as a stream of electrical impulses created by neurons firing. Neurons are a group of cells specializing in specific functions such as the assembly of blood, organs, glands, bone etc. The body is comprised of billions of cells, which categorically form the entire organism; however the brain includes billions of neurons, which begin “firing” messages upon stimuli of the five senses. These messages are in the form of hormones, chemicals and electrical impulses.“

"Here is another quote taken from Electrical Design in the Human Body by Craig Savige.  “The basic building block of the nervous system is the nerve cell, called a neuron. The brain itself consists primarily of neurons. Under a microscope a neuron looks like an octopus with many tentacles. A neuron can transmit an electrical impulse to the next neuron. The network of electrical impulses enables us to receive information from the physical world and then send it to our brains, and vice versa. Without the neuron circuits our bodies would completely shut down, like turning off the power supply to a city."

"The tilt in the earth’s axis allowed another aspect of the experience to be had. Human emotions are completely affected by atmospheric changes. The slightest tilt or solar changes will impact on these streams of electrical impulses from which emotions are constructed."

Another seldom unaddressed aspect of human biology is that there is magnetite in human brain.    A Caltech geobiologist Joseph Kirschivink discovered magnetic crystals in human brain tissue now called magnetite. Through the use of a high resolution transmission microscope they discovered that there were at least 5 million magnetite crystals in a thimble full of brain tissue each of which were approximately a millionth of an inch long. They further discovered that when this magnetite was exposed to strong electric fields they could readjust themselves and either open or force these channels shut. The following quote may assist in supporting my conclusion of the manner in which the sun acts as a converter of energy and a transmitter as well which would be also evidence of the impact of the electrical currents from the sun upon the earth’s magnetic field as well as upon the magnetite in our brains.  (taken from the Electric Sky, discoveries by Ralph Juergens):

“The Sun may be powered, not from within itself, but from outside, by the electric (Birkeland) currents that flow in our arm of our galaxy as they do in all galaxies. This possibility that the Sun may be externally powered by its galactic environment is the most speculative idea in the ES hypothesis and is always attacked by critics while they ignore all the other explanatory properties of the ES model. In the Plasma Universe model, these cosmic sized, low-density currents create the galaxies and the stars within those galaxies by the electromagnetic z-pinch effect.  It is only a small extrapolation to ask whether these currents remain to power those stars.  Galactic currents are of low current density, but, because the sizes of the stars are large, the total current (Amperage) is high.  The Sun's radiated power at any instant is due to the energy imparted by that amperage.  As the Sun moves around the galactic center it may come into regions of higher or lower current density and so its output may vary both periodically and randomly."

Through this non mystical process the brain begins to dismantle the current holographic illusion. The brain remains in constant contact with all fields of existence and with this shifting away from the old hologram the brain is signaled to begin to allow the individual to enter new fields of thought and consciousness and worlds. The limitation under which we have been experiencing 3d life based on a predesigned system will now become clear allowing one to fluidly experience a more expansive life.  For too long we have buried ourselves in the rendering of our lives, and spiritual growth to forces outside of ourselves. There is no one responsible for your evolution but you. You came on this journey of your own free will and you must ascend into your memory of who you are as a sovereign being.

u can read part 2 here.  none of this is new.  just wanted to make connections and show magnetite.  and how unrelated sources say the same things.  and how the sun weaves in.  i sure feel good to know the sun and moon info was switched long ago.  i love the idea that the sun is the mother.  http://www.spiritinform.com/2012partii.htm

"2012 is simply the ending of the old themes by which this reality was designed.   The transition can at times be difficult both financially and emotionally most often forcing us to return to the old but going backwards can also cause greater pain. You may also experience frustration, confusion and emotional challenges as the old is no longer working for you. Much of those feelings are based on the old earth design, social programs, family programs religious programs that are now short circuiting in opposition to being replaced with the new. This is happening in order to present one with the opportunity to embark on the new."

Dismantling programs thousands of years old can be torturous although one need only let go and allow or not allow.  this is fantastic info.  as is the feritciva article/pdf document.  things look like they could go the way we want. it just requires solidified will, intent, and belief.  id rather  believe i can and will live on to co-create than be destroyed and reincarnated.  or eaten up or hooked.  all this work cannot be for nothing.  and the portals will open.  just for the sake of change, in and of ITself.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

134 (edited by zenden 2008-01-08 20:05:13)

Re: Magnetics and Ascension

just lost another major post.  was kicked off for the last several attempts.  didnt even submit the last post earlier, about 6 hrs ago with NR stating it was down, but its there in the WIH thread without my doing.  was it down?  i dont know but it said it was and i thot montalk was working on the search function maybe.  too weird when an old buuddy i dont see that often (crone) who said 'know who/what ur workin with' showed up 6 hrs ago at the very time, so she wouldnt go postal at her house during her so-called xmas vacation out of the blue.  right when i had quoted her only minutes before on here.   family dynamics will do it every time.  she came here for peace and a do-it-urself crone talk fest.  an 'old' crone who taught me alot professionally, just needing a few.  back on now and my post disappeared.  wth?  im pooped now but wanted u guys to see this.  u can see where TP and i left off with the alternate earth/worlds idea.  its in here.  ppl will go to where they vibe.  and so on.

Dispelling Fallacies of Ascension by: posted by Brenda Freo`

What is Ascension?  It involves a shift in the vibratory frequency of an organism, through the elevation of consciousness of a planetoid or universe, alchemically emerging in self-awareness. The illusion of separateness is then abandoned, as self-awareness positions one in a state of alignment.

There is much confusion or misunderstanding of the science that qualifies a successful ascension as it involves spirit, mind and body. This must be accomplished through the ascension of both the soul and the body.  Many are disillusioned in their understanding, as it is their belief that ascension of the physical body is optional in completing a full ascension.

Ascension occurs when any evolving species or life form; such as the reality of Earth, has transcended the limitations of mass/matter.

Ascension is the accomplishment of surpassing the veils of illusions, which have been **imposed on us** through perceptions generated by the mind. The ascension of the human body is essential as it dismantles the illusion of death within the signature field of each representative of the ONE Mind. It **concludes the potential of the experience of death**, which was not apart of the original blueprint of man's descent into matter.

The illusion of death became apart of the human genetic program as fear and fragmentation of the original memory became prominent.

The molecular structure of man is no longer governed by his spirit but by the body's auto pilot mechanism, operating much like a fully charged battery at birth, and then gradually loosing charge resulting in death.

The body requires alignment with the spirit in order to maintain an ongoing energetic charge. As we ascend the consciousness of the fluidity of energy is reborn, the I AM presence emerge, dancing in and out of the field of form and formlessness.

All previous attachment to the illusion of physicality is released **allowing ONE to exist as an expression of all potentials 'in and out' of form**; the molecules of the physical form move fluidly in the field of the implicate and the explicate order, the macroscopic and the microscopic.

The subatomic realm is then no longer a mystery as we re-member being the subatomic realm. To become the I AM is to exist in the all-ness of all potentials without judgment of being this or that.

In Ascending we are returning upward in vibration via the original manner by which we descended the ladder of time.

First the soul will ascend then the physical form will conclude the ascension beyond this lower frequency realm. Very few will ascend from this time line in this pending ascension for many are unable to release the attachments that are creating diseased forms and a diseased mind. We hold on to attitudes, places, people and things. When we do we stifle the cells and they die from the lack of chi or oxygen. We then validate our choice to die as the impossibility of transcending death is heavily programmed into collective consciousness now running widespread throughout the consciousness of the seekers.

Those unable to achieve a complete ascension will move on to do so in a reality compatible with the essential understanding required by each soul to move forward. **There are those who currently maintain the memory of having ascended previously**, yet they **have chosen** to decline from participating in a physical ascension in this time line; it is important to keep in mind that **such memories are the blueprints essential to the evolution of collective consciousness**.

In other words **those memories are to be activated and released in mass consciousness** in order **to stimulate the ascension potential in all of humanity**. For those who believe that they are hear for a grand reason, such as assisting in this ascension or to **hold the energy**; realize that to become all that you can, will greatly assist the evolution of this species. In so doing we impart the energy of alignment through the process of our own realignment.

The ascension of the soul symbolizes a release from the limitation of the emotional matrix by which we have perceived our existence. The chemical addiction of emotions has regulated the path of humanity for quite some time. It has disillusioned us into a false sense of security to attitudes and attachments. The body chemically responds to attitudes and attachments to all things by dispersing human thought waves throughout the spinal fluid, which then bathes the cells. DNA and cells are then continuously recording and rearranging codes.

Humanity has been subjected to a great deal of deception, especially in the understanding of immortality. Becoming realigned with the understanding of immortality is in no way governed by a fear of death. ****It is however governed by the original principle of the fluidity of life.****

Immortality is simply **a release from the attachment to the illusionary state of solidity** (physicality) as the physical body transcends the decaying process of the cells by fluidly or **by energetically moving from one form to another**; the molecular structure is consciously shifting from one form of light to a more elevated frequency of light without the dismantling of the body by diminishing its vibration. You are literally turning up the vibration of the body much like changing the level of speed on a fan.

**This reality is directed by a Matrix or system, which imparts a program of limiting truths. That system is currently being dismantled.**

Humanity's rediscovery of immortality will greatly echo a change through out the cosmos affecting many that have assisted in holding humanity in ignorance of their birth right. In releasing a" mortal consciousness or perception" humanity will be redirected to a more expansive level of the playing field whereby we return to co-creating from an awakened state.

Death is indeed a deceptive consciousness.

Choosing to re-embrace and to realign with the consciousness of immortality will serve to intercept and to dismantle the deceptive death program currently in position. Although one may argue that death is not final it should also be understood *****that it does not**** serve***** in translating physicality by route of ascending the vibration of the form through light tones.

The spirits departure from the body, symbolizes a separation in consciousness as the physical form was originally birthed from the spirit.

Spirit lowered its vibration in creating a vessel compatible with the atmospheric laws of physical reality. In essence the body is a lower vibration of spirit. In realigning the body with the spirit we bring closure to our participation in the limiting laws of physicality and all formats by which physical reality has operated.

The body ascends into the spirit. The **current perception** held by collective consciousness will be disassembled, rippling a **new understanding throughout the morphogenic field restructuring a new reality**.

Many might argue that they do not want to live forever in a physical body. This imparts a great misunderstanding for immortality does not require an endless existence in a physical form.   We often fail to realize that the human body has been designed to operate within the atmospheric laws of this reality. In other words, every organ and every cell have been constructed to process the atmospheric gases of this time line such as oxygen. Each reality vibrates to its own appropriate frequency such as tones, color, light or pure thought. Therefore One must exist in a vessel that is in resonance with each reality. Each realm is accessible through a shift in consciousness, whereby the appropriate vessel is immediately in resonance with the consciousness being held by the entity.

Remember that 'realms' are simply 'shifts in consciousness'.

We are entering new time lines according to a shift in perception. Realities are only as we perceive them to be. This is the ultimate time travel. I often hear many speak of the day in which teleportation will become possible, yet in the next breath they continue to welcome the death process.

We can quite easily conclude that if indeed one has mastered teleportation, then what would be the factor of limitation in taking the body to realms beyond that which we can conceive, for the body will become any potential form perceivable. The molecules are rearranged.

What is spirit? Spirit is the vehicle of consciousness through which **original thought creates & interacts with all potentials within the VOID**.

Death is truly the final conquest, for the entire karmic procession is embedded in the process of the death cycle. It is the deceptive understanding of immortality that sustains the karmic wheel within the matrix.

The science of immortality lies beneath man's current perception of his fate. He is surrounded by all things that are in support of the deceptive program of the cycle of death. Almost all things in his reality validate the impossibility of transcending death.

All historical evidence of immortality has been destroyed or concealed in order to preserve the existence of the karmic wheel. Yes, there are those who choose to continue their experience within other realities, this however does not erase or bypass the formula of molecular transcendence. Molecular transcendence is 'a return to the ONE'. When the human experience is completed so will the understanding of karma be completed and so will death.

The concept of immortality can perhaps be more willingly embraced when it is understood that reality does not exist externally but is reflected as a visual illusion validated by the five senses. ("The kingdom of heaven is within") We see with our brain and not with our eyes for the world is seen in the vision center located within the brain. The brain operates off of electrical signals in the form of an image. Sensory stimuli are processed in the brain as a stream of electrical impulses created by neurons firing.

What are neurons? Neurons are a group of cells specializing in specific functions such as the assembly of blood, organs, glands, bone etc. The body is comprised of billions of cells, which categorically form the entire organism; however the brain includes billions of neurons, which begin "firing" messages upon stimuli of the five senses. These messages are in the form of hormones, chemicals and electrical impulses.

According to "The Amazing Brain", "The picture of the world seen by the retina of your eye is very different from the picture of the world you actually "see".

The retina sees the world as a series of spots or dots of light, dark and color. When you look at the world your eye conveys these dot patterns to your brain, which converts these dot images into smooth and continuous "seeing" that you experience." Awareness is realizing that you are not the dot in the ocean of possibilities but rather the ocean itself.

more butter for the bread.  explains nicely.   does not have to be such a mystery.  im on board.  just gotta keep paying attention.  and believing it so.  automatic evolutionary changes, done by will and fore thought.  im diggin this ride out.  better than id ever have guessed.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

135 (edited by zenden 2008-01-11 12:28:06)

Re: Magnetics and Ascension

got the net at work by talking the guy next door into setting up wifi.  but last day here at this office.  wouldnt ya know.  anyway, dont have the research notes with me but remembered this term, and wanted to look up "transposons."   maybe one of those factors the C's have talked about.  cant forget that.  check this.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposon

Transposons are sequences of DNA that can move around to different positions within the genome of a single cell, a process called transposition.  In the process, they can cause mutations and change the amount of DNA in the genome.  Transposons are also called "jumping genes", and are examples of mobile genetic elements.  Discovered by Barbara McClintock early in her career, the discovery earned her a Nobel prize in 1983.  There are a variety of mobile genetic elements, and they can be grouped based on their mechanism of transposition.  Class I mobile genetic elements, or retrotransposons, move in the genome by being transcribed to RNA and then back to DNA by reverse transcriptase, while class II mobile genetic elements move directly from one position to another within the genome using a transposase to "cut and paste" them within the genome.  Transposons are very useful to researchers as a means to alter DNA inside of a living organism.  Transposons make up a large fraction of genome sizes which is evident through the C-values of eukaryotic species.

i think with jumping transposons we have (besides jumping bardos with heightened, tuned awareness) we are at the 'DNA factors' subheading.  note how it requires RNA transcription to do so.  its so chicken and egg how those 2 work, interlock to get jobs done.  single strand and a double strand = 3.  triality trinity again from just another old angle.  the 3==new human in my book.  and to clarify--im saying heightened awareness and tuning into frequency/vibrations into other realms, dimensions, parallels, changes DNA.  just plain old practicing seeing, routes, possibilities, et al., changes, enhances one's own DNA and thus evolution from micro to macro.  as feritciva has been saying and been showing us.  enhanced DNA from enhanced IMPROVED ONGOING awareness. 

i know this is getting old, maybe even boring, quite repetitive, and so frickin on.  we were on a roll there for awhile.  but onward i will go anyway for something to do.  i figure any and all i/we can do to at least gain some sort/modality of awareness is the task of a century.  task of the third millennium.  (or is this the second?)  will have to weave the sun in here as days and weeks go by.  it has alot to do with it somehow.  i hate winter.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"