What point are you at? (Page 5 of 7)

I'm usually at work, so my time is limited.  The posts here are not the kind one can scan through rapidly or reply to without considerable thought.

Now, speaking of what point are you at......

Some of you may remember opetero who joined about a year ago and chimed in on the AI thread and then invited me to check it out so I joined.  At that time we were both reading The Wave Series and other things of that nature, and we both went through many personal changes in thinking.  Peter decided to leave the rat race and has headed to Canada.  He's living with relatives at the moment and making practice runs of living off the land very primitively.  His intention is to build up his strength and survival skills so that he can make the big break.  We get occasional reports from him posted at WRH.

As far as the two banned go, it's one thing to be skeptical and another thing to be just a total asshole.

People need a Jesus to come as they need a judgment day to come; i need it, but i realize this: im stupid.

The only problem is, is that we don't know what happends when we die obviously so really there is no way to act but to act as you are or feel. My preference, I wouldn't want it to be lights out and nothing more when we die but maybe we actually get to choose what we want when we die. I try to think what life would be like without societies, money, jobs, even houses. If we were to grow up basicaly in nature itself. Would our minds be more free in which we might be able to develope possible abilities of our brain such as telekinesis, astral projection, moving objects with our mind etc because obviously things like that in most societies is looked at as fiction and are not tought or encouraged. The only skills our brains develope are what is required in schools. I'm curious that if there was a school that tought children these paranormal abilities that if they really could develope them.

There only needs to be enough proof to rule out alternatives to the theory in question. If further proof is demanded, then one becomes a biased skeptic unwilling to face the truth. If less proof is accepted, then you enter the realm of subjectivity where conclusions may or may not be on target depending on the accuracy of your intuition or feelings.

In regards to intuition and feelings, people call these subjective because they are not based on linear intellectual reasoning. But that doesn't mean they are necessarily inaccurate; it depends on where they originate. If you're stoned and hallucinate, then your impressions might not be accurate since awareness and discernment are skewed.

If on the other hand you are attuned to messages from your subconscious or Higher Self, then intuition can be spot on. Experience tells you what the case may be - just observe what intuitive impressions always turn out to be correct. Then you can rely upon these to tell you beforehand what reason or experience will later confirm.

The discerning truthseeker weighs both the merrits and faults of an idea, then uses the merrits from multiple ideas to synthesize something that gets closer to the truth with time. The biased skeptic ignores the merrits, accepting the faults only as convenient excuses to justify his stubborness. So while I think proof is important, how one approaches it makes all the difference in how useful or limiting it becomes.

" I was curious here how mant people belive in conspiracy/spirtitual / alternate view" ILIKEICKE said

Well i wanna talk about one thing i dont believe in i have found on the net.  It is the cassospean (how do u spell it)  wave series.
The c's claim they are us from the future   i find this very hard to believe the future huh ? the future doesn't exist only a continous "now"  atleast thats what i believe

and why do the c's only communicate with a few select people why not everyone... or do i need some type of quija board to communicate with me from the future

Like Racsouran said, hearing is the first and more important step. The second step is understanding. If you read something but don't understand it, then you may disagree with someone who did understand it because both of you will be coming from different levels of perception despite thinking you're on the same page. And even if you understand, there should also be some level of personal experience involved otherwise you have no personal reference to even vaguely validate what's being discussed. So with all these pre-requisites for agreement, it's no surprise that people have differences of belief. Obviously what they believe in the moment is what's right for them, which as Bumblebee said is fine if it helps them better handle challenges.

The idea of C's being "us in the future" is only plausible if you are comfortable with the idea of reincarnation and an eternal soul, then to me it logically follows that if we keep growing in life after life, gaining greater wisdom, intelligence, and spiritual abilities, there will come an eventual point where one can not only communicate with others in space, but others in time as well. So if you continue to evolve, it will be inevitable that your "future" self would have the ability to communicate with you in the "present" as long as both sides of the conduit of communication are willing to participate and properly tuned into each other.

Right, that's why the "future" self is more correctly termed the "higher" self. It would be the higher part of your being with you as the more limited part, with the totality of your being straddling the eternal present which to our limited minds would stretch from "past" to "future" simultaneously.

So take it one step further -- if your "higher" self can commune with other "higher" selves in a mutually harmonious group, then there you have a group of "us in the future" willing to communicate with those of "us in the present" who are seeking to establish contact and are properly tuned in.

The tuning difficulty is why special methods are used to receive such communications, wherever they may originate. Even if they originate as figments of the subconscious, it is well known in mainstream science (psychology) that the conscious mind has difficulty receiving messages from the subconscious and so special states like dreams, intuitive receptivity, pendulum dowsing, ouija board, automatic writing, psychomantium, hypnosis, and trances are need to bridge that barrier between 3D mind and subconscious mind.

The Higher Self (so-called personal channel) or the C's (so-called group channel) are both said to utilize the individual's subconscious as the necessary gateway through which messages are sent, so the conscious mind will have just as much difficulty receiving messages from them as from the subconscious, and that's why some have resorted to Ouija boards. Other methods like trance channeling may also work, but are more susceptible to corruption unless great care is taken (see for example what was involved in receiving the Law of One / Ra Material messsages). But you could also just take a walk in the park and ponder the mysteries of the universe, receiving such messages in the form of intuitive concepts and inspirations that most of the time you may think are your own.

No kidding, unless you stay consistently skeptical about your skepticism or suspicious about your own suspicions, you will go blind or mad. Confidence and doubt may be the checks and balances of sanity.