1 Topic by Pamelajean (edited by Pamelajean 2006-03-14 13:22:25)

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Topic: Got water?

I hope a thread does not already exist for this type of info.  If it does I couldn't find it so I'm starting anew.

Somehow, I came across a group on yahoo groups called Water Watch.  They are posting some very interesting stuff on the status of water around the world.  One of the posts stated that 20% of the world's water is polluted to an extent as to be unconsumable.  These sites were posted the other day regarding river water. 

A friend told me, years ago, about how the levees and dams were damaging the entire river system in the midwest.  He was from Nebraska and worked around the center states so that was the area he was familiar with, but he said he doubted the rest of the states were any better off. That conversation started my interest in what was happening to the rivers and water sources.

Several years ago, I visited a tiny town deep in rural Mexico.  I was absolutely astounded to learn that this tiny town had to purchase drinking water, that all of the ground and river water was poisoned beyond usablilty.  The bad water was used for irrigation, however.  I guess not too much thought had been given to the fact that vegetables, by the meer act of growing, do not filter poisons from water so their vegetables were pretty much as toxic as drinking the water.  I learned that there were women in their late twenties with terminal cancer.  Currently, almost all of the vegetables for sale in southern California are imported from Mexico.

I don't even see how there could be a water shortage in England (one of the articles below), doesn't it rain all of the time there?  They are currently under severe water restictions...somehow.

Just thought some NR listers may be interested in this facinating subject.

*Death of the world's
rivers.<http://newsletters.environmentalhealthnews.org/t?ctl=115241E:4B8BBCE> The world's great rivers are drying up at an alarming rate, with
devastating consequences for humanity, animals and the future of the planet. London Independent<http://newsletters.environmentalhealthnews.org/t?ctl=1152442:4B8BBCE>, England. http://news.independent.co.uk/environme … 350785.ece

*Rivers: a drying
shame.<http://newsletters.environmentalhealthnews.org/t?ctl=115241F:4B8BBCE> * We have used our engineering skills to harness the Earth's water systems. Now we are paying the price. London
Independent<http://newsletters.environmentalhealthnews.org/t?ctl=1152442:4B8BBCE>, England. http://news.independent.co.uk/environme … 350786.ece

*Hosepipe ban as UK water crisis
deepens.<http://newsletters.environmentalhealthnews.org/t?ctl=115243D:4B8BBCE>
* Millions of Thames Water customers will be banned from using hosepipes and sprinklers, and 'non-essential uses' from fountains to the cleaning of trains could be next. London Observer<http://newsletters.environmentalhealthnews.org/t?ctl=1152445:4B8BBCE>, England.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/ … 55,00.html

*What's draining two Great
Lakes?<http://newsletters.environmentalhealthnews.org/t?ctl=1152418:4B8BBCE>
* The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is disputing some key findings of a
controversial report that claims the levels of lakes Michigan and Huron have been on a permanent decline for at least 44 years. Detroit
News<http://newsletters.environmentalhealthnews.org/t?ctl=115244A:4B8BBCE>, Michigan.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar … /603120350

*Public to weigh in on
creek.<http://newsletters.environmentalhealthnews.org/t?ctl=1152412:4B8BBCE> * In its long history of abuse and neglect, Onondaga Creek may hold one dubious title that no other waterway in America can claim: In 1866, the polluted creek was indicted by a grand jury as a public health nuisance. Syracuse Post-Standard<http://newsletters.environmentalhealthnews.org/t?ctl=1152446:4B8BBCE>, New York. http://www.syracuse.com/news/poststanda … amp;coll=1

2 Reply by lyra (edited by lyra 2006-03-14 15:03:56)

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Re: Got water?

Thanks for the info.  Talk about strange synchronicity.  About two days ago out of nowhere I heard something in my mind that I read on the Stuart Wilde site.  "Water, water, everywhere...and not a drop to drink.  It's coming, soon." 

Several times this went through my mind, to where I even frowned, thinking, "Hmm, that doesn't make any sense.  We have plenty of water!" And I wondered why I would have that go through my mind.

In the end I decided, Oh well.  Maybe we can will ourselves onto a better timeline! big_smile

Anyway, thanks again for the info.  The other idea I'd had going in my head, and this would be a good place to discuss this, is whether there are filtration systems that can de-contaminate water.  And I don't mean Brita, either.  wink  Something more heavy duty.  I just find it hard to believe that they can't clean and purify water, even to "level 2", as it's known in SoCal.  (Level 1 is suitable for drinking, Level 2 is suitable for irrigating crops...but you could technically still drink it without issue I'm sure if you HAD to...)

Any thoughts from anybody about this?

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Re: Got water?

They won't be satisfied until everything you drink, even water, has to come out of a machine.
No free lunch, no free water.  Or, drink at your own risk.

  • From: Tennessee
  • Registered: 2004-12-23

Re: Got water?

Hi  lyra and all here is a site that has a great thingamugig for purifying water. http://www.steripen.com/

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5 Reply by pokerboy101381

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Re: Got water?

I'm sure many of you are aware....but...I'll say it anyway.

Solarizing water seems to get water back to a nice, drinkable energizing form.   Sit water out in the sun....for at least a day....in an airtight, clear container...and it's back to tasting nice and fresh.   

To boot...you won't need to drink as much.    Water forced through pipes if virtually useless.   Bottled water isn't that much better.   Hell...I don't care what kind of water it is.....if it's forced to tubes with pressure....it's trash.

Solarizing even gets tap water together.....as long as you don't drink to the bottom of the container.  (The nasties will settle after a while.)

The sun is the shiznit!

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It's weird.  I do alot of traveling.   And I have definately noticed that different cities water do different things....

It's gotten to the point in where I won't be able to vibe with a city until I drink their water.   After I catch the vibe with a place.....then I get to solarizing.

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6 Reply by AB

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Re: Got water?

http://www.hado.com.au/crystals.htm

"As we can see from these samples, water definitely responds to outer stimuli acting as a mirror, reflecting and carrying the impressions exposed to it. When exposed to negative stimuli, ugly formations appear, yet when positive stimuli is exposed to water, beautiful crystals form. The implications of this are truly enormous.

Water exposed to the word: 'Angel'
http://www.hado.com.au/hadoimages/angel.jpg

Water exposed to the word: 'Devil'
http://www.hado.com.au/hadoimages/devil.jpg

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Re: Got water?

AB wrote:

http://www.hado.com.au/crystals.htm

"As we can see from these samples, water definitely responds to outer stimuli acting as a mirror, reflecting and carrying the impressions exposed to it. When exposed to negative stimuli, ugly formations appear, yet when positive stimuli is exposed to water, beautiful crystals form. The implications of this are truly enormous.

Water exposed to the word: 'Angel'
http://www.hado.com.au/hadoimages/angel.jpg

Water exposed to the word: 'Devil'
http://www.hado.com.au/hadoimages/devil.jpg

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Re: Got water?

Thanks for the solarizing reminder, pokerboy.
My 5 gallon jugs of water are going outside in the morning!
Ozonated, reverse osmosis and filtered and then solarized.
Gonna be good stuff.

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Re: Got water?

Tom Paine wrote:

Thanks for the solarizing reminder, pokerboy.
My 5 gallon jugs of water are going outside in the morning!
Ozonated, reverse osmosis and filtered and then solarized.
Gonna be good stuff.

No prob Tom.

BTW...I used to do all that stuff.....but then... I looked over at my bottle of liquor that I was about to drink....right after I took a shower...

I had a moment of clarity.

I generally just buy bottled water and solarize it.    I'll do tap if there is no other option....and just drink the top half of the water.  (The nasties will settle to the bottom over the course of the day).

Of course....purifying it yourself is always better.....but honestly, I'm a bit too lazy.  For me...the cost(in time, sanity and money) does not equal the positive expectation.

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Re: Got water?

Pokerboy---
I don't own a filter, except for the icemaker in the refrigerator.
I buy the water.  I buy reverse osmosis water because it is apparently the only
process that removes most of the FLUORIDE.  And filtration removes cysts of
parasites which wake up in your stomach acid and hop onboard.  Like giardia and
other uninvited guests.  Boiling doesn't kill them.  This is especially true wherever
beavers are living in streams and ponds.  I can't remember ever drinking any
"wild water" except in a freshwater lake years ago when I fell off the waterskis.
Thanks again,
TP

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Re: Got water?

Tom Paine wrote:

Pokerboy---
I don't own a filter, except for the icemaker in the refrigerator.
I buy the water.  I buy reverse osmosis water because it is apparently the only
process that removes most of the FLUORIDE.  And filtration removes cysts of
parasites which wake up in your stomach acid and hop onboard.  Like giardia and
other uninvited guests.  Boiling doesn't kill them.  This is especially true wherever
beavers are living in streams and ponds.  I can't remember ever drinking any
"wild water" except in a freshwater lake years ago when I fell off the waterskis.
Thanks again,
TP

Okie...I gotcha now.  My bad for the quick assumption.   We eat from the same bread.... or ..umm....drink from the same trough?   hehehehe...;-)

In case our wires got crossed..I was not suggesting drinking wild water.....  I mean....unless that's someone's thing.

Drinking shit and parasites can be fun?

oooooo...I know....  They should make an MTV show out of it!   Sick Boyz!

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Re: Got water?

I can confirm that we're definitely on the brink of water crisis in certain parts of England, particularly the South. Contrary to popular belief we've had very little rainfall this last couple of years and many of our reservoirs are currently less than half full.

I think hosepipe bans are coming into effect within the next few weeks in certain counties.

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13 Reply by Pamelajean (edited by Pamelajean 2006-03-15 01:38:28)

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Re: Got water?

I have a reverse osmosis system in my kitchen sink, and it doesn't filter out all of the chemicals, but it was the best system I could find and afford.  Most water filtering systems filter out bacteria, not chemicals.  You can't un-add a chemical by filtration.  I figure that even distillation does not eleminate chemicals because they are just evaporated and reinstated, unlike bacteria which is affected by dehydration. 

All of this does not take into consideration that one must first have water in order to filter it or sit it in the sun. Nor does it take into consideration bathing.  Skin is our largest organ; it sucks in water while we bathe and it dispenses it through our entire body effecting us just as much as if we were drinking it.

We can live without liberty; we're proving that, but we can't live without water, at least, not for long.

  • Registered: 2006-01-07

Re: Got water?

Thames water are losing a third of the water through leaks. It seems to me that they should be focusing on that more.

I am thinking of buying some prill beads. I would be interested to know if anyone has any experience with them.

When Prill beads are placed in a gallon of yucky tap water... in 24 hours, that water is transformed into pristine water that is free of chlorine and most contaminants are neutralized. After 1 hour you can draw off and use 3 quarts, and by adding three quarts of tap water to the remaining quart you can then draw off 3 quarts of pure water every hour for the rest of your life!!

http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/prillbeads.html


http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/prod_prill.htm

15 Reply by whywhywhy (edited by whywhywhy 2006-03-15 06:01:50)

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Re: Got water?

1. Filter it
2. Distill it
3. Vortex it
4. Cool it
5. Bless it

Not many people have the capability of doing all five.  Distillation will get rid of most chemical as long as there is a a definite difference in boiling temperatures.  It will require longer distillation columns with several trays to assure good purity.  Very difficult for the regular Joe to do.  Sad but true.