Topic: Just Believe Us!

There is a column in my local paper called the Answer Line in which readers can submit questions about anything.  Recently this appeared:

Any proof that we went to the moon?

By BEECHER THREATT

Tuesday, March 07, 2006

QUESTION: Has anyone ever used a telescope to see the articles that astronauts left on the moon? Wouldn't that prove whether we went to the moon?

ANSWER: You're one of those hoax theorists, aren't you? Why can't you just believe the government?

Emphasis mine.

http://www.news-journal.com/featr/conte … rline.html

Whoa, that was really direct.  I wonder who exactly this Beecher Threatt is.  What an odd last name!

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Unblievable. But then, so is the fact that millions of people would agree with this drone.

"A dream has power to poison sleep"
-Percy Bysshe Shelley

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I typed Beecher Threatt's name into Yahoo! and all it pulled it up was her Answer Line column and a book she helped write about child witnesses.

(2) CHILD WITNESSES. Extensively annotated and topically arranged (child
witnesses - general; children's credibility; videotaped testimony; preparing
children for court; direct confrontation), this bibliography provides access
to a wide variety of citations on children as witnesses. Compiled by the
staff of the Texas Legal Resource Center for Child Abuse and Neglect,
Beecher Threatt, Executive Director (approximately 40 pages).

http://lawlibrary.ucdavis.edu/lawlib/jan94/0041.html

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Mutant Mouse:

At the risk of being redundundant, I was in data processing in 1969 and the best we had (publicly) was the IBM 360/30-40-50 etc series computers. We thought 64k memory was a lot of space to program in back in those days... usually we wrote in Assembler, very compact code. However, the 360-30 cpu plus at least 1 disk drive to run things from would not have fit in the Apollo capsule, and even if it could have been squished into the capsule, that wasn't enough memory to load and run the complex pgm needed to land and take off from the Moon.

What Apollo 11 really had was a punched paper tape system that was unfolded and read into the small dashboard computer, storing/running about 500 instructions. At one time. And every time they wanted to do something else, they had to whip out a tape and feed it into the cpu. Forget corrections to any landing, paper tapes could not be read that fast... and what if one ripped?

No, the computer aspect of Apollo 11 is a joke, and I don't think they manually flew it to the surface either... did you see the spindly legs on that Lunar Lander?  'Spring loaded'... really?  Was that Moog, Monroe Gas-Matic or Gabriel Striders?

But the all-time killer that JFK knew nothing about when he committed us to putting a man on the Moon, were the Van Allen radiation belts -- 2 of them. Lethal. These belts have messed up our satellites as they flew thru them -- so new satellites were lifted to a lower orbit. Our astronauts did not have lead shielding, not to mention protection from cosmic rays and micro-meteorites...

Sorry but it didn't happen. Not surprised they attacked you for questioning what everybody knows happened. People saw it happen! I watched the 'landing' that night on TV -- and I remember thinking it looked hokey... when Neil came down the ladder, there was a camera strapped to one of the landing legs taking his picture... then in later pictures, it was not there... guess the ground crew removed it.... big_smile   And the camera survived the landing, dirt and flame...? Ooooo!

To see how they did it, go see the movie (rent a video) Wag the Dog.

Il faut tout voir de la hauteur de 40,000 pieds.

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The real question is:   Why did they go through the trouble to fake us out?   What was the specific purpose of that?

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pokerboy101381 wrote:

The real question is:   Why did they go through the trouble to fake us out?   What was the specific purpose of that?

To answer that question, you have to put yourself back in the time period. 

What was going on in 1969? 

The U.S. was smack in the middle of the Vietnam War.  A very unpopular war that had driven the morale of the country into the ground.   The U.S. was at a very low place........and not only that, but the Russians were kicking our ass left and right in the space program. They were the first person to get a person in space, the first orbit, the first woman astronaut, and on and on and on. 

What this country needed was a major patriotic morale boost, some major distraction to offset the war, and to finally one-up Russia.

That's about it, in a nutshell.

An even better movie to watch though would be "Capricorn 1", about a faked landing to Mars, where NASA blackmails the astronauts into going along with the hoax, or else their families will be killed.  It's a REALLY good movie.  Don't let the 1978 date, or the fact that OJ Simpson is in it, fool you.  wink    Definitely worth renting if you haven't seen it.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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In real life, the astronauts were 'hypnotized' to believe they had done what the people saw on TV, yet it used alien technology that really masks what was done and implants new memories... similar to what is done by the Greys to abductees. Our astronauts really believe they did what we're supposed to believe.

Il faut tout voir de la hauteur de 40,000 pieds.

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Zarg wrote:

In real life, the astronauts were 'hypnotized' to believe they had done what the people saw on TV, yet it used alien technology that really masks what was done and implants new memories... similar to what is done by the Greys to abductees. Our astronauts really believe they did what we're supposed to believe.

That makes sense - it explains why they've remained quiet about things even after all these years, and why Neil Armstrong punched a guy in the face several years ago for even daring to suggest that he didn't actually go to the moon.  His reaction struck me as being one of two reasons: Extreme defensiveness because he knows the guy is telling the truth and so he got scared and hit him to shut him up, or, he really believes he went to the moon, and was stunned/pissed that anybody would suggest otherwise...and to his face, no less.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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So, did they fake the landing because it wasn't possible or to cover up something else going on?

It seems most people (probably not here, but wherever landing-doubters are to be found) are suggesting that they faked the landing because we just couldn't do it.  I disagree with this, I'm sure it can be done, but not with the reported technology.

Perhaps it was faked because the only way to get there was using anti-grav type technology reverse engineered from Roswell?  Something like that, we wanted everyone to believe fire was the only way to get into space, showing how we really did it (which would open up a whole free energy can of worms).  I think we did go to the moon, probably much much sooner than 1969, but with different technology.  I'm pretty sure we've already been to Mars.  I wouldn't doubt that the Nazis went to Mars.

"Isolation, mis-education, and for the very clever there is looming liquidation."  -Catch Twenty-Two "Bad Party"