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Maydovus, your points are noted, but it seems what alarms you is not necessarily happening on this forum to the degree you perceive. It may depend on whose posts exactly you are talking about. The opinions here are varied.

I doubt anyone here disputes the idea that we are all One at the deepest and most fundamental level. But the question is, how do you apply the Law of One? Is it divisive to say that an interconnected whole expresses itself dualistically because freewill offers the choice between honoring or subverting the choice of others? That's where I am coming from. Likewise I ask, is it naive to ignore this dualism? What is the place of discernment and wisdom if nothing matters, if there is nothing to discern between, if one choice is not wiser than another? I feel that spirituality and discernment go hand in hand, that one can have awareness of both unity and diversity.

As for the Matrix, obviously internal liberation is the key to external liberation. Just because I and others believe that the Matrix also exists "out there" does NOT mean we ignore the primary role of internal work and transcendence over self-imposed limitations. The Matrix is nothing more than the mechanism by which entities solicit our continued participation in their etheric energy economy. Solicitation fails the moment we learn to choose otherwise. That we own this choice and willingly participate in the Matrix does not mean we generate the Matrix in totality, because it takes two to tango and the withdrawal of one party does not negate the existence of the other.

I see just as much imbalance in ignoring the Law of One as in applying it naively. On this board we have seen examples of both, but who here can live it perfectly? I think that this perfection is naturally approached over time, but in the meantime we must be forgiving of each other's errors and simply strive to obey both our heads and our hearts. Alright, so a periodic reminder is necessary...

Well, those who read your post will get out of it what they need. Just wanted to speak my mind on some of what you brought up. The advice you offered is good, though has been previously given and acknowledged on this board. If you understood the subtler points of what those you admonish have said (and vice versa) there would be little disagreement.

The issue may really be in whether we have the initiative and perseverance to apply what we know.

Yes you are right in what you are saying, but as you say the whole expresses itself dualistically but its perceiving that life is dualistic is what keeps yourselves in the illusion of a dualistic world,I live in the same world as yourself but I percieve everything is one, neither ignoring the spiritual or the physical as denying either would be denying a part of yourself.

Here you miss my point, I never said you or others ignore the inner, if u did, we'd be still one of the many still asleep. Its by believing that a Matrix exsists and its something we have to free ourselves from is what im trying to get at. We can have total freedom now, today, not 2012 but personally now we can have total freedom, I see 2012 is where the majority of humans have a shift in consiousness and a better world created with total peace, but we as individuals can be free NOW! Also by believing entities drain and take our energy (loosh) which they do, but its by our choice that we give it to them to feed on, by our anger, frustration and most of all fear, we can stop that now, by freeing our mind from its habitual patterns that we as humans have built up over a number of eons, becoming lost in our now very powerful ego. We are not being limited or manipulated or controlled by something else (which i greatly used to believe was the case), we are doing it to ourselves and as soon as we see we are doing that, then the process of total freedom can occur.

The Law of One has no law, its just is as it is now, this is the oneness, everywhere, everything, now, its the perception of the mind that creates the duality, seperation, of what already is one.  Perfection is now, you are looking at, breathing in, feeling perfection now, everything is perfect now the way it now, that is acceptance of what is, then perfection has its own different levels of reality. Does an ameoba have any more or less perfection than a human?

What is discussed on this forum, most topics are very interesting and informative indeed, but i feel that the point of the whole spiritual consiousness change is missed. The realities you talk about do exist but only because you make it so, but if you all feel deeply within, there is so much more to all this than fighting against governments that take the whole world for a ride, (they do because we let it), protecting yourself from loosh draining entities, (because you let them drain you),and increasing the paranioa that you are being constantly watched (Well u are, what can you do about it!?),and so on, the list is endless of the seemingly negative situations. By believing in such entities, u give them more freedom to take from you what you already give away, thus giving yourself justification for your beliefs, and by continuing these patterns of thought, you only become trapped again but this time in a similar but different reality.

The main point im trying to make out of all this is that you all seem to seek freedom from somewhere else like in another place in time, like if you were at a certain place now everything would be perfect, you would finally be free, rather than seeing that you can have that complete freedom right where you are now, today, not 6 years time, but now, this moment.

This I completely agree with!

Maydovus,

I'd like to make an observation of your post, not as a criticism, but as an opportunity to explore this concept further, since it is a core concept of spirituality.

Notice how your entire post is framed in the very context which you are cautioning against.  The language that is chosen creates a strong undertone of duality between you (Maydovus) and us (Noble Realmers).

You apparantely being somebody who is more knowledgeable and more wise seeking to impart that wisdom to us who apparantely do not understand.

Moreover, it appears that we have all been grouped together as if we all share the same opinion, which is curious to me because my observation of the posts on this forum is that there is a wide variety of ideas and opinions that are anything but the same.

Even the fact that the title of your post has nothing to do with the content belies an underlying separation mentality that undermines the viewpoint that you are supposedly espousing.

Oneness does not mean sameness.

The Law of One states that all beings share a common source, not that all beings are identical.  The first distortion of the Law of One is what allows for two primary interpretations which manifest as the Service-to-Self and Service-to-Other paths.  These paths converge in sixth density, but here in third/fourth density, there is a clear distinction, though this is not to say that they are separate.  Hence a being may choose to move from one path to another.

The Matrix concept is a metaphor for the control system by which a small group of STS entities control, manipulate, and enslave, the majority of beings on this planet.  I like Montalk's 'etheric energy economy' terminology. 

Whether or not one is aware of the Matrix, how they view it, and how they respond to it, is a matter of perspective.  From a vantage point of spiritual awareness, the Matrix is a profound and highly effective tool for liberation.  All things, including the Matrix, can be made to serve the light, yet if used in ignorance or by default, the Matrix serves the darkness.

One of the ways Matrix is made physical through the application of commercial law.  Under the current version of the Matrix, the ruling elite con the masses into borrowing money and paying interest against future labor by using the media to create a false sense of need.

The goal is not to make money.  The elite have no need for money.  They can print as much as they like.  The goal is to keep people in bondage.  To keep people spending the majority of their time working in jobs which support the promulgation of the system, and the rest of their time glued to the television set or some other media outlet which brainwashes them into believing that the system is good for them.

The world economy, and especially that of the U.S. is fueled on debt.  It is a false economy.  Again the goal is not to make the banksters rich, the goal is to get the common man to default.  To be in dishonor.  To break their word. 

This is what divests people of their innate spiritual authority to determine their own choices, and invests it upon those who would choose to use it against them.

The Matrix Control System is designed to subvert our innate tendency to desire to be of service to others by tricking us into believing that we must use the system to be of service.

Doctors, nurses, lawyers, politicians, teachers.  These are just a few examples of the occupations which ostensibly are service-oriented. 

I will speak on the medical profession a bit, since this is where I have personal experience.   
The medical profession is full of people who deep down want to be of service to others.  Young and naive, we choose to embark upon this journey of healing.  We spend years and years in school, often borrowing large amounts of money to be there.  We put in our blood, sweat, and tears, working under the false promise that one day we will get a piece of paper that will grant us the "privilege" of being of service to others.

Then we graduate and get our coveted piece of paper, only to find that we are more controlled.  Laws, rules, regulations, and ritual bind us to a health care system that creates more illness than it cures.  We take an oath to do no harm, yet are forced to make recommendations to our patients to take drugs that cause a great deal of harm to the body.

Then even if we attempt to offer choices for natural therapies, we are cajoled by our peers and met with skepticism by the public.  And then even those who are open to alternatives turn them down because they are not covered by their health insurance policies, which do nothing to insure health, but only insure that the drug companies have fat pockets. 

Then God forbid we make a mistake and find ourselves before a barrister trying to defend ourselves against some proclaimed victim who thinks that we should be stripped of all our possessions because we lack perfection of judgment.

It goes on and on, and the only winner is the system.  The system grows while both the health care professionals, and the patients are left sick, broke, bitter and disheartened.

This is just one example of how the Matrix is designed to take the natural impulse to serve another being and subvert it into serving the system.

Did anybody force me to go to school, and to borrow money to do it? No.  I made those choices myself.  But I also made those choices in ignorance.  So now I must make choices which will liberate me from my self-imposed bondage, and I am in the process of doing so.

What will neither serve me nor anybody else is to slap on my rose-colored glasses and chant "All Is One" while the system continues to swallow up everything in its wake. 

We are rapidly approaching the third opportunity on this planet for the graduation of souls into fourth density.  The first one yielded nothing, and the second yielded just over 100.  This massive failure did not occur because of a few individuals who had the courage to stand up and say that something is wrong here, but because the masses of people were too naive to believe, or simply too distracted to notice, that there are forces here on this planet that do not have their best interests in mind.

Unfortunately, the day to day challenges of living here in this world of "3-D" make it pretty hard to remain in a state of oneness and non-duality at all times.  So while we can certainly strive to be in a state of love and attempt to be non-polarized in the way we view things (not giving too much energy to either good OR evil but seeing it all as part of the One,) it's not always that practical to remain that way.

And most of us are interested in comparing notes on "survival" tips....or perhaps "transcendence tips" so that we can continue to raise our consciousness and to evolve while still doing what we have to down here in this reality while we are here.

When I was 16 I had an awakening experience in which I moved beyond duality and spent a year seeing only the ONEness of creation....all love, all God, all joy and balance ALL THE TIME.

It was lovely.

It also really screwed up my life.

From this place of pure oneness and unconditional, 100%, altruistic love, I felt such compassion and empathy for all those who WEREN'T yet in a non-dual place, that I began attracting hugely imbalanced people as "friends"...manic-depressives, psychopaths, people dangerous to themselves and others. Looking back on it, I'm appalled in many ways, because these were NOT people I should have been hanging out with, and never would choose to do so today, yet my immense love for the One blinded me to these realities.

And being locked into the framework of "all is one, all is good, all is perfect" made me unable to perceive danger where danger existed...both danger to my physical body, danger to my finances, danger to my emotional and energetic well-being.

So while I was unable to perceive the darkness that began descending around me, it still began to have an effect. My non-belief in the darkness didn't prevent it from having an independent existence outside of my current perspective. It proceeded very nicely on its own, without my giving energy to it, gathering mass and eventually creating severe problems while I was still dancing about in my "oneness" state.

After about a year, I "normalized" and integrated back into being a relatively "regular' artsy chick who nevertheless had a deeply spiritual view of things. But I had to deal with this reality again. And there were a lot of messes to clean up.

What I'm trying to say is that, historically, there has been a real purpose for the whole lifestyle of living in a temple, removed from others, while a spiritual seeker pursued enlightenment. 

You NEED a certain amount of protection around you in a bodily sense because when you go into a "Oneness" state, you are unable to perceive things that might be dangerous to you, because, frankly, you're so blissed out on love and so "high" on love and connection to God that you lose touch with the need to protect and care for your body.  Your consciousness really is someplace else. Ax murderer shows up for dinner? Hooray! Let's make him a nice bowl of soup. We just made a friend! Oh joy!

Running around in day to day life in such a state can be very dangerous.  If you're in a temple, you have others to nurture you and help you and honor the very sacred process you're going through. They keep you grounded and safe while you explore these other states of consciousness.

But when you're having your awakening experience while living in a bad neighborhood with many bad people around you, and you suddenly lose the abilitiy (through your blissed out, nondual, state of mind) to perceive their darkness, that doesn't mean that their darkness goes away.  And you can end up putting yourself in the path of stuff you wouldn't normally engage in.

I feel the enlightenment process for us modern folks has to proceed gently, gradually, in stops and starts, because if we're suddenly all in that perfect state of oneness and pure love, we'll so lose identification with the body and with physical concerns down here in "3-D" that we'd probably all quit our jobs, go live on the streets, and find ourselves sinking into trouble pretty quickly because the current societal structures in this world do NOT support the average person having this Oneness experience in any sustained, safe way.

I was lucky in that I had two loving yet bemused parents who were completely disinterested about the enlightenment experience I was having, and I simply didn't talk about it, I just became this creature who beamed out love and light 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and the vibration in our house lifted to one of incredibly light and joy, and it felt good for all of us. So I had relative safety and protection while I experienced this vibrational shift.

But if I'd had to hold down a job or navigate through complex adult relationships, I would have been in a lot of trouble. I was so out of my "ego" that I couldn't identify any separation between myself and others.....and sometimes, it's not a good idea to be "one' with just anybody. You lose your ability to discern between people who might be bad for you or have a low vibration because your own vibration is so high. 

All the psychotic and damaged friends I attracted were seeking healing, and I was happy and honored to give them love and support. But when I had fully emerged from that oneness state a few years later, I realized that these relationships had created a huge mess in my life. Left behind huge amounts of personal debris. Caused me to make very bad choices from a "Jennifer" perspective, namely, these were things that in the long run were not ideal for me to be plugged into. Yet my love and oneness state of mind blinded me to those realities.

That said, I do believe things unfolded as they  needed to in my life, and I have no regrets. And I feel very blessed to have had that year of enlightenment at a point on my own timeline where I could fully explore those energies and not have to hold down a job, an apartment, a boyfriend, yada yada as you do when you're an adult.  I could NOT have done that effectively because that state of consciousness pretty much demands that you be somewhere safe and soft where your bodily needs are being taken care of, and there are no real temples people can take refuge in today. 

Instead, we are given the challenge of having to carve out our own way of living in a sacred manner whlie also doing what we have to dealing with the "profane," i.e. the 3rd dimensional stuff of kids, work, mortgage, etc.

When you're in a oneness state for long periods, you just give your money away. I mean all of it. Every cent. That's what I did.  And you give away all your energy because you just want to give and be a being of pure love and nothing else has any real importance to you.

So how does that translate to the reality of having to pay off your credit card debt, deal with school loans, or whatever else you have to do in a "normal" adult life?

Sometimes you NEED separation, if you want to continue life in this body.  My money vs. yours. My space vs. yours. My energy is mine, and yours is yours. 

You see, oneness is a lovely state to aspire to. And love is very important and transcendant.

But I can vouch for the fact that, at this point in time, as things currently are on our planet, the enlightenment process needs to happen gently and gradually so people can integrate that mindset into their daily life.  If it happens all at once, most people go through a very intense and often difficult kundalini awakening where they can't deal with life down here very well because they are coming at things from such a different place. And the social and financial implications of this can be very severe.

Look at David Icke during his "purple" phase when he had gone through his awakening and suddenly understood what Jesus and God were about, and he openly talked about this on TV, and to this day because of it people have classified him as a total "nutter" in the UK.

Imagine if he'd had his awakening experience gradually, over time, so that he could integrate his new awareness with his work as a TV personality and gradually work that perspective into his job.  He wouldn't have lost his career. He wouldn't have lost his ability to navigate through this world with public respect.  But he wasn't in his ego, so he never thought about the need to protect himself from the lower consciousness of others.

I don't know if I've described any of this very well.  Apologies if it's just a long ramble.

Suffice it to say, I think we need spiritual street smarts. We need to learn how to be protective of ourselves as we evolve and awaken, because there ARE bad entities and energies out there and they LOVE it when people go into that awakened state, because people in that state of mind lose the ability to understand the need for protection, and then the dark side throws all manner of things their way that can prove to be very distressful obstacles later on, once the intensity of that enlightenment period wears off and the person has to face the consequences of the decisions that they've made during that time in their life.

I think we should all continue to aspire towards Oneness, but in degrees. And I believe that's what we're all doing, and I respect the unique timetable and conditions that each person is navigating through on their path of spiritual growth.

Lipstick Mystic aka Jennifer

PS: If our "belief" in the Matrix makes it real, then why is it that when people have shifted their consciousness BEYOND any duality does all manner of evil tend to descend upon them?  The Department of Defense shows up at your apartment within 12 hours of  doing a merkaba meditation, the black helicopters arrive overhead, the death threats happen all the time, all that stuff.  My disbelief in these things never prevented them from happening. These were all going on ten years before I ever heard about "conspiracy theorists" and all that jazz.  And these events always got more intense the MORE my consciousness went OFF THE GRID, beyond the Matrix, as if people really are tracked via technological or metaphysical means when their spiritual light expands. 

In my experience, not being aware of this stuff doesn't empower you. It makes you more vulnerable. You need psychic self-defense and personal street smarts, in my opinion. A jungle is a jungle, and if you're navigating through it, you'd better carry a machete and a shotgun. Disbelieving in the lion who is about to eat you is an interesting exercise, but in the end, I'd rather not become somebody's dinner if I can prevent it. I'm not fond of tooth marks.