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Re: Salvia Divinorium

Xenopope wrote:

"Did you black out for a moment or did you maintain yourself in a waking state the entire time? If awake, how did you manage to stay awake in body when it first hit you? What was the nature of the pink energy ball? I assume you did it on purpose but why?"

I maintained myself in my waking state the entire time, though I completely forgot I had smoked salvia. I was very confused at first. I wasn't trying to stay awake in body, it just naturally ocurred that way. I don't exactly know what you mean by "What was the nature of the pink energy ball?" I felt lots of energy inside of me. I could feel the energy in my hands. I have made an energy ball once before this salvia experience when I took mushrooms. The friends I was smoking salvia with had never seen my energy ball before and I wanted to show it to them to prove to them that most of what they have been taught in school regarding science is not totally true. The energy ball I made when I was on shrooms, about a year ago, was more purplish than pinkish, and was very hot. When I made the energy ball on mushrooms, my whole upperbody felt much lighter as if a burden was lifted off of me. With salvia, it did the same thing except to a much lesser degree.

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"Did you 'know' anything about these dark forces? Anything at all - like their purpose in existing in relation to you?"

I 'know' that they have been there since I was very young. I am experiencing dark emotions that I haven't experienced since I was atleast 3-5. These emotions are mainly centered around me being ashamed of myself, being alone, helpless, with no personal strength, as if someone needs to tell me what to do a reassure everything is fine. I think I am finally confronting these past emotions and releasing them. I am definitely not running from them thats for sure. These forces are there to try and stop me from gaining more personal freedom. Everyday I actually hear them, whereas before they were in my subconcious. They are now in my concious. Over the past 3 years or so, I have become extremely aware of all my thoughts including the junk background thoughts. These dark forces, which really aren't THAT dark when compared to other forces, are just making a last feeble attempt at gaining control over me again. They have close to no power over me. We all have our own personal demons that we need to release, I am releasing them now. I even had a dream where I was looking at a shadow of a person, my shadow self. The shadow was vibrating really fast and screaming in pain as if it was dying. This among other personal experiences confirms what is happening to me.

On one of my trips that I haven't mentioned yet, I actually saw people trying to hide from my awareness. My friends and I were at a park smoking this late at night. I took a hit of standardized 10x salvia measuring up to about 1/8 of a gram. After this, I started to notice people smiling at me disguising themselves as trees or columns to those shady structures over park tables. It is exactly like those paintings you see where there are two pictures in one. For example, they could be a scene with a couple having supper at a table underneath an umbrella and when you back up the picture could look like a skull. What I was seeing was just another way of looking at things. These beings hide themselves through patterns basically, patterns that most of us do not have the perception to see most of the time. When I saw all of these people, there were about 5 of them, I was extremely confused. I kept looking at the sand and park structures when I began to see cracks in my perception. I then saw something moving in these cracks. It was like I was seeing into another reality through these cracks. From what I was able to gather, it looked like a close up of a person's head filling up my entire vision. Imagine watching a movie screen and then seeing a bunch of lines going down the screen with a small amount of width. And in these lines, you see another motion picture behind it. That is what I was seeing. It was like my perception was moving changing direction and these cracks were opening up. I wasn't able to let the cracks open up fully though just because of the strangeness of this all. I had no fear at all during this whole thing. I have seen eyes on mushrooms peering into our reality and a whole bunch of extremely "strange" things. These thigns I see aren't hullucinations either, because when I turn my head and look back they are still there. They aren't fluid either like colors melting into each other either.  Anyways, as this was going on I went up to my friends, and was just like "What the hell?" I thought they were in on this or something. All of these things I was seeing were so completely obvious to me so I thought they somehow knew about everything I was seeing to. Of course they didn't. I went back to my bench I was sitting on and then began to feel energy creeping into me. I could physically feel this. I hadn't read anything about this, so I didn't know what to think. I was very unfocused at this point so I didn't concentrate and let the energy creep into me. That pretty much ends that experience.

Two days ago I had another salvia trip (My friends and I bought 10 grams of salvia standarized 10x extract oneline for 140 dollars at www.botanicmagic.com.) This time, after work, around 11:30pm, my friend Alex and I, the friend that get sucked into other realities, each had two trips at a different park. This time Alex went first, I'll tell you about his experiences later. When I went, the salvia hit me as I was still breathing in the smoke. I was seeing into another reality as usual, and feeling tons of energy inside me. I didn't want to waste my energy making an energy ball though, which I could have. Instead I just laid back and looked up at the sky. I was seeing a whole bunch of snobby women telling me to hurry up and give the apple to my friend. They were also making fun of everything me and alex would say. Insulting our intelligence basically. At first I was like they are try to guide me or something, but I realized these were same dark forces that try to mess with me and a daily basis. I had a feeling of not being in control, and being ashamed of myself for doing something bad, and I realized that I didn't have to feel this way. I realized that I was being influenced to feel this way from these outside forces, I completely ignored these people after that, all of this ocurred in a matter of 15 seconds or less. Then I layed back, still feeling a little ungrounded. I then started to focus. I could see an energy sphere above me. It was greenish and purplish and had a gridlike pattern. I felt tons of energy creeping up my body. I felt the energy caressing my legs. The energy was moving up my body I felt it go down my throat. When this was happening, I was realizing just how accurate the matrix trilogy was to paralleling our reality, (I'm talking about the scene where Neo touches the mirror and has the goo go all over his body and down his throat, that is when he becomes unplugged from the matrix. What I think was happening, which I am very confident of, was the energy was trying to anchor itself to me. I could strongly feel this energy. I have had symptoms of it for two days after. I'm sure you guys all know about the ascension symptoms, having flu like symptoms and what not. I didn't let the energy completely envelop me though. Once again I was not focused enough. There is so much more to explain. Its so hard to even describe all of this. Oh and just to add, everytime I smoke salvia, the pressure in my head, which I have 24/7, increases by like a factor of 2. I can feel energy in my head at all times. I can feel the imbalances and blockages in my head as well. I feel salvia is helping remove all these blockages.

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Re: Salvia Divinorium

I read an interesting Salvia trip report from M-I, and that got me searching on youtube for 'salvia' last night. I find it both amusing and disturbing watching average people try and use it as a recreation party drug. It crossed my mind that I ought to get some and try it since it is legal and easy to obtain, but it looks like you really need to have a sitter to keep your body/ego from hurting itself while you are checked out for a bit...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWSCz6DcHOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtM3fcbZ-vA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FcghJ5kAs8

and I found this documentary is up there: Sacred Weeds: Salvia Divinorum
Part 1/6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oAv0R6gtfk
Part 2/6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ7y2X-DLoM
Part 3/6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgW4Z1deaPg
Part 4/6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sNqATzepe8
Part 5/6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puVAK5v_YoU
Part 6/6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGKfpCwY8A0

M-I wrote:

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Now, on to the story.  Me and a few of my good friends were vacationin in
Los Angeles toward the end of last year.  We've had it in the back of our
minds for most of the year to try Salvia, but none of us honestly had the
courage, despite our experience, the word from our friends was that Salvia
(along with DMT actually) are much more powerful than mushrooms or LSD.  The
exact words were "much more intense, but short lived".   Now hanging out on
a Friday night in Hollywood, we were bored out of our minds, just standing
on a corner.  Behind us was a smoke shop (they sell tobacco products, pipes,
bongs, etc.).  We decided to go in and check it out.  The guy working at the
store was selling Salvia, and pushed it hard on us.  In fact, we had walked
out the store and he followed us outside, still making a case for us to buy
some Salvia.  We thought that this was a sign of sorts, and decided to buy
some (about 1-2 grams of the dried leaf).  We returned to our hotel room,
used my friends pipe, and began to smoke the Salvia.

My first friend, Alberto, whom I consider to be part of my soul family, took
the first toke.  He immediately sat down and said that he could see
hundereds of every object in the room, as if the table wouldn't stand still
anymore, he now saw hundreds of tables, and couldn't focus on one.  He
became rather panicked, we actually had to sit him down, but after about a
minute, the Salvia passed and he was okay. As he described it, everything
kind of came back together.  Alarmed, my other two friends decided not to
smoke the Salvia.  Me, however, I said let's try this and see what the
Shaman are talking about...I took a little bit, just as Alberto had, but I
felt nothing.  I smoked just a little bit more, still nothing.  In fact, I
starting making fun of the whole thing, especially Alberto's reaction.  Now
I am standing by my bed, pipe in hand, and I take one huge toke.  I remember
sitting down on the bed, and then I remember standing up.  But when I stood
up, all my friends were watching me, asking me if I was okay.

Huh?  I only sat down for a sec and stood up, what could have happened?
They told me I had been freaking out for the last few minutes, asking for
them for help, that someting didn't feel right.  They said they were real
close to calling an ambulance.  After they told me this, I recalled what
happend to me for the past few minutes.  I wasn't in the room....and like a
dream, I recalled what happened to me during this time...

I felt like I woke up somewhere, out of a deep sleep.  I woke up and looked
around.  I couldn't tell you where I was, other than it felt like a huge,
infinite movie theatre.  In this theatre, there were rows of human souls, as
far as the eye could see in every direction.  Everyone was hunched over and
appeared busy watching what looked to be personal LCD screens (I could never
make out a screen other than my own).  It seemed as if everyone was busy
"working", however there was no pressure or tension that could be felt.
It's as if everyone was happy to be here, doing their thing.  Now I looked
at the souls to my immediate left and right.  To my right was my friend
Alberto, and to my left was my friend Cesar (who was with us in the room,
but didn't take the Salvia.  I consider him a memeber of my soul family as
well).  And they both looked at me with a very puzzled look on their face,
like they were in shock.  As far as thier faces were concerned, I could only
see their face, the rest of the image was light.  For Cesar, I saw just his
head, everything else was a blue light.  For Alberto it was the same, except
his light was red.  And they both looked at me as if to say "holy shit, he
woke up!??!"  Indeed, I had stopped looking at my screen, instead I was
looking at them.  In this place I found myself in, I had no pain, no hate,
no wants, no needs, only curiousity.  My thoughts were my own, but I was no
longer and individual.  I didn't care about my name, who I was,  had no
recollection of my family, specially my dogs who I love dearly and nothing
in the world could every make me forget them,  but here, I did.  It wasn't
that I didn't care, it was as if this physical world, and everything in it,
just didn't matter.  Like it had all been an illusion!  The atmosphere was
that of peace and unity where I was, I didn't miss anyone or anything.  It
felt like I belonged here, and it's not that I didn't want to comeback,
coming back wasn't even in my thoughts!  Also, there was no time, nor even a
sense of it.  Everything just was.

So now I'm flanked by my two good friends in this "theatre" who are staring
at me in dis-belief.  But now they spoke to me, they told me "Raj, what are
you doing?  You have to start spinning"

And I laughed at them, saying "Spin?  You want me to spin?  But why?"

And they were both speaking to me an they said, "Trust us Raj, you want to
spin.  You chose to spin, so please, start spinning"  Please note they had
stopped working/spinning in order to assist me, because I stopped and looked
around.

As I looked around at the theatre again, realizing everyone was spinning but
us 3, I said to them "Why is everyone one spinning?  Why?  It's just soo
stupid!"

And Alberto was talking to me this time, he said "Raj, please trust us, you
have to spin, you want to do this, you chose to do this!"

Again, my answer was "But why...it's sooo stupid!  Why is everyone
spinning?"  It was apparent that they were growing inceasingly frustrated
with me, finally my friend Cesar said to me "see how easy it is, just try
it!" and he spun in a circle once (when he spun, I was able to make out the
rest of his body) and stopped.  And then I tried it.  When I spun, I saw the
hotel room, but just for a second, as I just did one revolution, then I was
back to the "theatre".  And Cesar said to me "see how easy it is?" and of
course I maintained my stance "yeah, but it's soo stupid...why do we spin?
for what?"  Cesar at this point gave up on me, it seemed as if he had to go
back to spinning, as if he couldn't stop for too long.  So he want back to
his monitor, now it was just me and Alberto.  He hadn't resumed spining yet,
he was waiting for me, and didn't want to resume until I did.  When I talked
to them later about this in detail, they agreed that this matched thier
personalities.  So now it was just us too talking, and this time there was
more urgency in his voice,  "Raj, you have to spin, please".  After going
back and forth with him (and he wouldn't spin without me, what a good
friend!) another voice entered my head, but I couldn't see or sense where it
was coming from.  This voice identified himself (it was a male voice) as
"Yow-dree" (best I can spell it based on the sound) and was more of an
authoritarian voice, although the only emotions I could sense were still of
peace and tranquility.  The voice of "Yow-dree" reaffirmed what my friends
were saying, that I should spin, and I should start soon.  So I gave it a
shot, I spun, just as Cesar had shown me.  When I spun, I saw a spiral of
blue light, that washed away, revealing the hotel room.  I didn't seem right
to me, so I spun again, and the spiral of blue light happened again, and
from the light, objects started to appear, and these were objects in the
hotel room.

It was at this point, about 3 minutes after I took the toke that put me
where I was, and I found myself right back in the room, right where I left
off, except this time everyone was surround me, looking at me almost with
the same face as before!  I asked them what was up, and they said, "Dude you
don't remember?"  And at that point it just hit me where I was and what
happened, it almost felt like a dream, but it just happened and I could
recall everything.  I explained to them what I saw and the conversation we
had, and they were like "no, for the last 3 minutes you've been running
around the hotel room freaked out, saying you don't feel right and that we
should call for help".  They did say I physically spun in a circle once
too.  I couldn't beleive that.  I had no memory of that, and where I was I
felt fine, and I didn't care of nothing of this world. And the experience
felt like it had been hours, not minutes.  They told me they couldn't
understand much  of anything I said, as if I was talking in tongues.  It was
weird coming back to this reality, it was almost like I said to myself  "oh
yeah, my name is Raj, I live here on planet Earth, I have a job and a home
here.  I'm in a hotel room, in Los Angeles with my friends on vacation"  I
had really lost all sense of those things.

We sat around and discussed the experience, as I'm sure the ancient Maya's
did when they used the substance.  We concluded that the Salvia plant had
somehow split my physical ego with my non-physical soul, and that my soul
went back into the non physical, where I was speaking with my friends'
higher selves.  What was left here on this plane was my body and my ego,
talking with my friends back in the hotel room.  Nice to know my ego gets
freaked out without my soul, but my soul didn't even realize the ego wasn't
around!  We still couldn't understand the spin part however.  And we all
wanted to know who the hell "Yow-dree" is!

Now several months after this, I was reading some of Dan Winters' articles,
one where he included an old post from the Blue.  And to my shock, what did
the Blue say:

[Blue] *yes .... in order to maintain memory, energy/force must spin in *

*vortex like fashion to maintain that memory * ...... the by product of this
is

gravity, attraction ,repulsion ...etc .... even your black-holes are huge

memory vortexes of your universe and so forth ...]

Guess they weren't lying to me about the importance of spinning huh?  smile

78 Reply by Xenopope (edited by Xenopope 2007-06-09 09:05:59)

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  • Registered: 2004-09-03

Re: Salvia Divinorium

sinaptix wrote:
M-I wrote:

Source

You have to start spinning"

And I laughed at them, saying "Spin?  You want me to spin?  But why?"

And they were both speaking to me an they said, "Trust us Raj, you want to
spin.  You chose to spin, so please, start spinning"  Please note they had
stopped working/spinning in order to assist me, because I stopped and looked
around.

As I looked around at the theatre again, realizing everyone was spinning but
us 3, I said to them "Why is everyone one spinning?  Why?  It's just soo
stupid!"

And Alberto was talking to me this time, he said "Raj, please trust us, you
have to spin, you want to do this, you chose to do this!"

Again, my answer was "But why...it's sooo stupid!  Why is everyone
spinning?"  It was apparent that they were growing inceasingly frustrated
with me, finally my friend Cesar said to me "see how easy it is, just try
it!" and he spun in a circle once (when he spun, I was able to make out the
rest of his body) and stopped.  And then I tried it.  When I spun, I saw the
hotel room, but just for a second, as I just did one revolution, then I was
back to the "theatre".  And Cesar said to me "see how easy it is?" and of
course I maintained my stance "yeah, but it's soo stupid...why do we spin?
for what?"  Cesar at this point gave up on me, it seemed as if he had to go
back to spinning, as if he couldn't stop for too long.  So he want back to
his monitor, now it was just me and Alberto.  He hadn't resumed spining yet,
he was waiting for me, and didn't want to resume until I did.  When I talked
to them later about this in detail, they agreed that this matched thier
personalities.  So now it was just us too talking, and this time there was
more urgency in his voice,  "Raj, you have to spin, please".  After going
back and forth with him (and he wouldn't spin without me, what a good
friend!) another voice entered my head, but I couldn't see or sense where it
was coming from.  This voice identified himself (it was a male voice) as
"Yow-dree" (best I can spell it based on the sound) and was more of an
authoritarian voice, although the only emotions I could sense were still of
peace and tranquility.  The voice of "Yow-dree" reaffirmed what my friends
were saying, that I should spin, and I should start soon.  So I gave it a
shot, I spun, just as Cesar had shown me.

Thank you for posting. This would serve to confirm for me that the spiral motion I felt was actually the path into or out of embodyment and that the path is somehow necessary in order for us to continue to experience this physical reality.

sinaptix wrote:
M-I wrote:

Source
When I spun, I saw a spiral of blue light, that washed away, revealing the hotel room.  I didn't seem right to me, so I spun again, and the spiral of blue light happened again, and from the light, objects started to appear, and these were objects in the hotel room.

I felt the same thing except I think I could only remember 'seeing' the 'end' of the spiral. I clearly remember during the first instant of my return that reality itself was still 'curled' up into a sort of cylinder shape and that it had to 'unfold' into a sort of flat screen of reality for me to observe.

I am as is Void.
  • Registered: 2007-04-21

Re: Salvia Divinorium

Holy $h1t!

When I was little I remember a very firm impression that I always had within me - that I was a great blue giant that was asleep and that would wake up someday. Now I feel that the waking process has begun.

For the past half year or so I had a recurring thought that visualized itself to my imagination to the point of almost full lucidity - that I am plugged to some monitor which fills my entire view where my life is played back. Everyone else is also plugged to their monitors and are busy watching whatever is shown them. We are all part of this huge machinery, whose purpose is not clear. Somehow the mechanisms that were holding me tight in place before the monitor got loose and I am able to get tiny peeks at what is beyond the frigging monitor.

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  • Registered: 2006-04-10

Re: Salvia Divinorium

The one time I tried to medidate on some Salvia extract (possibly 5x or 10x it was a yellow box) I had a very bad paranoic trip.  So I decided to buy the leaf.  I've done the leaf a few times, one time in particular was what I considered to be quite interesting.  I hit the bong like 4 times with a pinch of leaf in each bowl.  I sat down to medidate and closed my eyes.  What I remember seeing in my minds eye was a cloud, but I was that cloud, I could see I was in some sort of room but everything was like a greenish tint, It was kinda like not real living color, but I was very focused on the cloud of energy, and me identifying myself as the cloud.  I realised I was back to physical reality when I realised I took a breath.  You know how sometimes you are so focused on medidating you forget to breathe......from my personal experience, I think the extracts are too strong for my intentions of peaceful medidation......I still plan on meditating on Salvia in the future, with the utmost respect and the best of intent!

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  • Registered: 2007-11-15

Re: Salvia Divinorium

GenSek wrote:

that I am plugged to some monitor which fills my entire view where my life is played back. Everyone else is also plugged to their monitors and are busy watching whatever is shown them. We are all part of this huge machinery, whose purpose is not clear. Somehow the mechanisms that were holding me tight in place before the monitor got loose and I am able to get tiny peeks at what is beyond the frigging monitor.

Woah. That's what I was imagining when I was on some Albert Hoffman's brew. Like I was stuck behind a looking glass, and I was trying to go through or over it. Very strange trip. I could sometimes see peeks through it or over it, no idea.

On topic:

I recently got some Salvia 5x hearing about the divine shepardess. I am quite curious.

First time it felt like some very strange pressures moving me back. Felt very refreshed afterwards.

  • From: Toronto, Canada
  • Registered: 2005-10-29

Re: Salvia Divinorium

i just did it once and it lasted like 2 seconds, for a second, everything around me became alive. Even my fan and the towels hanging on my door. But what was interesting is the 'feeling'. I was something i always knew, experienced and fammilar with.

The same feeling overcame me when it hit my peak with dextromethorphan (cough syrup). It was quite profound and during my peek i was lead thru stages of being a rock, wind and water. Cant describe the rest since cough syrup has many complications including super high body temperature, since your sweat glands are blocked so you're just heating up more and more. Dont try it more then once is all i can say unless you want you brain to be really fried up.

All for One and One for All

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  • Registered: 2007-11-15

Re: Salvia Divinorium

altamash wrote:

But what was interesting is the 'feeling'. I was something i always knew, experienced and fammilar with.

That's the feeling I get when I take psilocybe mushrooms or LSD.

  • From: Toronto, Canada
  • Registered: 2005-10-29

Re: Salvia Divinorium

Rhyotion wrote:
altamash wrote:

But what was interesting is the 'feeling'. I was something i always knew, experienced and fammilar with.

That's the feeling I get when I take psilocybe mushrooms or LSD.

yeah i know, it comes in a 'scary' way but onces it comes you know that you've known this feeling all along.

All for One and One for All

altamash's Website

85 Reply by Kahnsentrayshun (edited by Kahnsentrayshun 2008-01-16 20:52:32)

  • From: Upland, California
  • Registered: 2007-01-20

Re: Salvia Divinorium

There are a few things I want to talk about concerning my salvia experiences.

I've tried salvia extract in the past and what I almost always see is other versions of our reality moving in and out of each other. So when you look at a wall you see other walls exactly like it (with all the exact same grooves and everything) moving around the other ones. I see our solid reality and then multiple energetic ones on top of it kind of moving around. It's weird and yet very familiar. I wonder why this is. I accept that what I see actually is and isn't a hallucination. Why are there other versions of our reality stacked up on top of each other like that? Is there a reason why they are not quite perfectly on top of each other? Is the reason they are not solid in place is because my parallel realities haven't converged towards one point yet or something? I also get the impression that I can somehow move to the side in another dimension if I focus hard enough, so I can completely leave this reality. This comes up every time I smoke it. I also feel energy go up my legs.

I also notice my aura and a huge gap stretching from like my abdomen towards my feet. When I focus while on salvia and can emotionally feel a weight on me. In the past I have focused so hard by not thinking that I felt the weight fall off for a brief moment. It was like nothing mattered and I was perfectly relaxed. I sometimes wonder if others experience this naturally and I am enduring something that most people don't endure, but now that I think of it almost everyone has emotional problems of some sort. The energy is so powerful during this salvia meditation that it makes regular meditation seem almost pointless. I'm looking at the amount of energy necessary to completely rid myself of the emotional weight and it definitely requires something like salvia to do the job or maybe a highly experience energy healer. Perhaps this amount of energy will be available in the future when the multidimensional Light comes into our existence.

Salvia hits fast and hard. Most of the time I'll still be holding the pipe and I just sort of blank out. I forget who I am, why I'm here, and I don't know what to do with the pipe and lighter. I feel like a small child. I'm very confused while I am experiencing this super heightened awareness state and I even consider asking someone for help. I think that as a child I experienced this state, but didn't grow properly from it. I think instead I chose fear and instead to rely on what others would tell me to do and say. By child I mean like almost a baby. When we are born I think we are in a super heightened state where most of the stuff we naturally filter out (due to our conditioning) stays. It can be really intense. It can be too intense to handle especially in our environment we grow up in. So much of our development as a person depends upon the first 6 years of our life. If that is stunted in anyway like not receiving enough love, being sexually abused, having traumatic accidents happen, then we lose the strength of our auras. We then adapt based on our newly asymmetrically shaped auras. I think salvia can allow one to see where their aura currently is and how they can expand it.

Also when I smoke salvia I notice that I am not alone. There are things that are negative that talk to me telepathically. They are my creations I think. I have allowed them to grow on me. They are those small impulses to think or feel something negative. They aren't saying really horrible things, but they will put a negative slant on my thoughts. I have become so aware of the background noise of my thoughts that I started listening to them more and more. Since I hear them more clearly now they have a certain influence on me. I got in the habit of trying to block out anything that can potentially hurt me. In this respect it is really hard for people to get to me by insulting me. These entities or whatever you want to call them exist on the sides of my body/aura. I of course know what they are and try to block them out as best as I can. I think salvia helps me become conscious of the entities that either follow me around or are attached to me. I'm not afraid of them, but they sure do limit my potential. In the coming years I hope to rid myself of them. The only way is through becoming aware of them and focusing on my center. I feel like my nervousness in social situations and my fear of ridicule is a cause for their existence. For example, I know most people are typically mean and so I can usually predict what someone will think or say about me behind my back. I realize they have the free will to do so. I naturally will think about these negative things that others will think or say about me even if they don't think them.

Now that I think about it, this dark energy is squeezing me from the sides. In order to get rid of it meditation is in order. I do this by not thinking and just being. I notice that about every 6 seconds or so an impulse will come for a thought. If I continue to increase the duration then I should completely get rid of this squeezing.

I believe that to attain enlightenment you do truly have to be extremely silent for long durations of time. It's like we need a certain amount of energy and each time we think and give off energy instead of conserving it, our energy volume stays the same. It goes up and down between a range instead of going up and up.

I've read a lot of the stuff Stuart Wilde has to say and it is the same stuff I experience. For example, he talks about looking to your peripheral vision and letting energy flow from a dimension orthogonal to ours into ourselves.

http://www.stuartwilde.com/Articles/SW_ … waves.html

He said the energy looked rose colored. I have in fact seen this. The energy will be right up in your face. It won't appear to be at a distance. You will feel a warm sensation around your eye, the side you choose. Anyways this has proven to be true for me. Another thing that is true is the symptoms of the morph that Stuart describes. I have been experiencing bun head for quite awhile now. It feels like there is a bun at the back of your head.

http://www.stuartwilde.com/morph/Sensat … unhead.htm

Here's more symptoms:

http://www.stuartwilde.com/morph/SW_mor … ations.htm


I can only imagine what death might be like... If I can see the loving energy "down here," then most certainly death will free me from the constraints I now have and I will be immersed in it. I think all these other dimensions are literally right next to us. They aren't even inches away, they are RIGHT NEXT TO US.

I think becoming 4th density gives us this awareness. Our eyes not only see in front of us, but they also simultaneously seen into dimensions orthogonal to ours. Must we then develop our peripheral vision if this is the case in relaxing and silent meditation?

http://www.friendsofcwg.com/gallery/albums/alexgrey/thumb_bardobeing.jpg

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86 Reply by Kahnsentrayshun (edited by Kahnsentrayshun 2008-01-16 22:09:22)

  • From: Upland, California
  • Registered: 2007-01-20

Re: Salvia Divinorium

Wow... I just figured out how to get rid of one of my energetic parasites. I was meditating in preparation for a salvia trip when I figured it out. Okay... I'll explain it now. I have an impulse to judge things negatively... even if the judgment makes no sense whatsoever. It's a split second think-of-something-negative impulse. This impulse was born out of trying not to do something negative. You know when you try not to do something that your attention is then focused on not doing that something... which is doing something. Tell yourself, "Try not to think of sex," but by just thinking that thought you are thinking of sex. Well during early on in my life I developed an impulse to not think of something negative. This progressively got worse overtime. This impulse does not originate in my brain surprisingly. It originates in my left abdomen area including my left lower back. I have been getting stomaches from this impulse for the longest time. I have tried so many different ways of getting rid of this parasite. For some reason I never concluded that I just need to focus on this area.

I just meditated for like an hour and now this energetic impulse is close to gone. I even noticed feelings of love that I haven't felt in a long time. It appears this parasite is the cause for my lack of emotion and love. I am so glad I have finally figured this out... The parasite isn't completely dead though... so I will definitely need to focus my awareness on the area as often as I can until it's gone.

I discovered this while I was meditating. I decided that the reason why I feel crappy most of the time (a problem that has been with me most of my life) is because of holes in my aura around the sides of my abdomen. I was focusing on this and noticed that it was getting better. I then noticed that it was opening up energy in my sacral and heart chakra. I would then focus on these. I began to feel a warm healing sensation in my heart and sacral chakra beginning to emerge and then it would get cut off from the negative impulse I talked about earlier. I then realized I was never going to be able to expand my sacral and heart chakra until I got rid of that meditation interruption. I focused on where this interruption was coming from and tried to squelch it. This parasite fought hard and very cleverly for survival, but in the end I was victorious... well almost. I realize that the parasite will again reemerge if I don't completely vanquish it, by continual meditation.

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