Salvia Divinorium (Page 1 of 6)

I tried Salvia Divinorium a few years ago and was somewhat impressed at the time.  It wasn't anything mind blowing, just "different" and brief. 

I mostly remember feeling as if I was riding a roller coaster while I was looking up at the clear night sky.  I was never able to "break through" either.  I haven't tried it since that time.

A friend of mine who had introduced me to Salvia Div was able to project his consciousness, although uncontrollably, to other realities.  He claimed that in one instance he was an Native American in the southwest somewhere looking out across the desert.  Then in another instance he found himself in a child's body in a small old fashioned "western" store.  I've read of people having similar experiences as well. 

The way he acomplished this is with a bong + salvia leaves + 10x extract. 

Everything I've read about Salvia experiences makes it seem rather uncontrollable.  Although, those people who had these experiences probably weren't familiar with projecting their consciousness to other realities to begin with.

I concur.
Most interesting experience:
sitting on the floor, after several seconds of holding the second hit... a mass transit system wound it's way around me. Buses, planes, cars, trains... It was very strange to say the least. The classical music I was listening to at the time morphed itself into mexicana style music.

Other times, I have taken a hit of it and instantly forgotten who I was, where I was and what I was doing. It was interesting as my memories slowly leaked back into my consciousness... Like a piecing together of a puzzle. Almost like a microcosmic lesson for the great macrocosmic being remembering itself, that is Purusha sees Purusha in a mirror and for once does not think it is someone else.

Salvia is one of the very few herbs that has reverse tolerance so unlike shrooms, DMT, LSD etc it takes less and less to get the same effect.
This is most weired stuff i have ever tried with a capital W.
One tends to fight the awfull twisting out of this reality sensation and with the reverse tolerance thing most do not achieve breakthrough on the first attempts.
I got breakthrough by smoking  pot first which relaxed me enough not to fight against the sensations and just went into it, so came to the waking dream visions. You will totally forget you have smoked a herb and will be a stranger in a strange land which seems more real than this reality but also something you may have always known. Read about the others peoples experiences on the Erowid site. I always got the impression of going between the spaces  in the atoms of matter and being scared of the demons that live there.
Not for fun at all, it took me weeks to come to terms with what i saw and knew, this stuff does not tolerate people who take it for kicks.

My advise is always have a trusted friend as a sitter if experimneting with this herb.
People think they have done shrooms and acid with no problems so its ok, its not this stuff is in a different league and needs the utmost respect.
Salvinium is regarded as the worlds most powerfull halucinagenic in terms of its effects and the dose needed which is the millionths of a gram.

Barefoot doc  I couldn't have put it better. I just got some 15x extract today.
I felt out of my body, I felt like I was -everyone- there. It was a bunch of people I knew, my landlord, my dad, my youngest brother... but we were all part of some wacky machine, and I -was- them, but still myself...  and we were creating wacky humorous "pattern dances" and singing rhymes that made no sense. Then I opened my eyes in my room and we realised that it was the "Alex" that had taken the Salvia. I felt this was a glimpse into "higher up"... I had had a little earlier today, and for the rest of the day I was having what I felt were "penetrating insights" on how everything works. Everything. It feels an absurd concept.
The experience was a familiar one, one  I have visited many times via meditation, sleeping, magic mushrooms, and even depression curiously. The salvia was just a slightly more "psychotic" experience, due to the nature of the plant, but it was vividly validating.
It also helped me clear up a lot of things in my head. We were dancing in the patterns and I could feel everything as if it were real... it is real. This physical reality is a trap, I now know that for sure. I have been having insights on densities etc, and I have truly tasted "godhood"... Only a miniscule taste but a taste that I believe, no matter how intangible, was one of the most valid experiences I have ever had. The plant is legal as it works on different hallucinogen receptors than illegal drugs, but I feel as if it is more a key to unlocking a glimpse at reality.
I can definitely see why the shamans use this stuff. I will be saving it for rare occasions (2grams for $34-95 15x extract)...
I believe it unlocks a deprogramming sequence in the mind, allowing one to view the "higher" reality uninhibited. Things only get bigger, this planet we are on is a dense area of space that draws consciousness into it, like a metaphysical black hole. It is based on patterns, which are it's "code" - eg the movement of the stars, solar systems, and most importantly our planet. These patterns also exist as nature, which in turn begets humanity.
"The fall" was a descension of consciousness being pulled into the density of this encoded space, which I believe was created by the other side of this reality, the "dark side". Sat Tan (Being becoming)/ the womb of the "matrix"
We humans are composites of a complex pattern of raw matter encoded by a being far too big for us to fathom. Look at the specks of dust in the air... now look closer, at the atoms and the patterns they make... and then imagine how the galaxies look spinning in the void.
  We are consciousness encoded into these forms, the world around us all being part of a larger complex pattern. Free will is irrelevant, death is irrelevant... The real purpose of human existence is to further itself in every way, to benefit the whole evolution of the great sleeping ones.
All paths are relevant, and my proof of this is that these paths exist. They are all created, the world we are in is merely a test, a proving ground for our consciousness before it moves onto other things.  All the gnostic/buddhist/dark doctrines/even fiction has described this, and I have tasted it.

Sorry if I'm not making sense...

Please excuse my ignorance.  Do you smoke this drug? Or, do you drink it?  Also, how can you tell if you are having a real experience or if you are just tripping?  I do believe there is something to the use of drugs.  My mind is the sharpest after 3 drinks of vodka.  If I keep the % alcohol blood content constant I can hold that state for a good length of time.  Of course if you go beyond a certain point you miss the enhancement and all you are doing is getting wasted.  I sense it is the same with other drugs although the 1st impression is to think you are all a bunch of junkies justifying drug use.  I am pass that point and believe there are benefits. 

Never used them, yet I am curious…………..

I cannot stand smoke.  I was hoping ingesting it was one of the methods.  Oh well!

Regards,

Lee