1 Topic by visavis (edited by visavis 2005-12-05 14:19:13)

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Topic: Current spiritual dynamic

risen wrote:
visavis wrote:

visavis wrote:
Does anyone feel it in their own lives at this time?  To me, I sense it as fairly pervasive - not just my own little world.  Maybe I am wrong, I don't know.

A humble but frank offering:  If this hypothesis/gut feeling is correct, then it is important to NOW re-fresh our framework of thinking, let go of what is not really ours to own, and *override the system* - to achieve positive ends.  There are some timeframes/circumstances in which the importance of making the right decisions is escalated - similar to how montalk suggested in his illustration of the 'deja vu' phenomenon in another thread.

Yes.  If there isn't already a thread on here along those lines, could you start one?  I'd love to see that discussed into much more depth, but it seems a bit off-topic from this thread.  (it's already off-topic enough! LOL)

Here's the new thread.  smile

What I sense is not perhaps that it is becoming more difficult in people's own lives (because we do seem to have a sort of etheric help or expanded positive 'source(s)' to draw from), but that there is a certain specific negative force in the world at work in many individuals' lives at this time, that would seek to disrupt and break apart, with a considerable amount of intensity.  But it's almost like, if we *choose*, we have more of an ability/potential to negate or override it.

Perhaps it is just more imporant than ever, to get/be on the right track spiritually and make wise decisions at this time.

Further ideas?  Anyone else feel this kind of thing on a more 'real' level now... IE not just in theory or books or what other ppl are saying, but in their own lives?

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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2 Reply by freeme (edited by freeme 2005-12-06 10:02:15)

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Re: Current spiritual dynamic

Funny, this morning I was thinking about this and also came up with the issue of *choice*.  How are we going to live?  How do we choose to respond to the negativity and create a better future? 

It is not that terrible things are coming and we need to prepare to survive.  It is that we can begin *now* to create a better future for many people.  In fact, I don't think I've ever been more positive about the future.  It is time now, in my opinion, to seriously transcend and transform the negativity and create a different future.

Never Give Up!

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Re: Current spiritual dynamic

I agree with you freeme.  It seems as if more and more people are becoming self-aware, but also we are taking ourselves more seriously and actually believing in ourselves instead of reaching and grasping at an intellectual idea. 

I do not sense a specific urgency but a rather feeling of joy for the divine moment and for the "future".  It is now that we have the choice to become aware, to become what-ever-we-want-to-become.  I believe we are realizing our potential and this potential (which is infinite) can only go higher and higher.

Also, it seems as if most people are opening to this idea of "knowing thyself".  And to know thyself is to accept our fears, thus we are working on ourselves and intergrating our negativites and/or realeasing part negative patterns to become lighter and more aware of ourselves and our potential as creators.

Happy creating everyone! smile

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Re: Current spiritual dynamic

I can definitely see what you are speaking of here in my own life.

What is shifting for me is that I am releasing the need to make everything right. 

I have observed that when something goes 'wrong' in my life that usually it involved becoming entangled in somebody else's drama.  Then I run around frantically trying to find the right words or the right actions to make things right for them.  But I can't do that.  It just gets me more tangled up in the knot.

Energetically it feels like there are these little black holes that pop up inside of me, and whatever negativity arises I just let it get sucked up into the black hole, because on the other side of the black hole, it becomes a positive influence.  Simple as that.

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.

5 Reply by visavis (edited by visavis 2005-12-08 01:15:30)

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Re: Current spiritual dynamic

tenetnosce wrote:

What is shifting for me is that I am releasing the need to make everything right.

I can really relate to this too tenet.  I have traditionally had nothing stopping me from getting pissed off whenever I see something "wrong".  Be it in the world, my town, people with him I have a relationship, etc.  And, especially in the latter example, I'm seeing that this need that you speak of is pretty much just the ego wanting to control. 

Mind you, we do have to care about good being done, and not negativity.  And there are certain things that require resistance and fighting of some sort.  If there is an alien breeding agenda as has been discussed and written about so much, then that would be one of those things.

But, to be focused on all the crap and get bent out of shape about it... I think our energy could be used better elsewhere. 

It's the second reason I don't watch CNN or invest time into any 'news' really.  IE just get caught up and waste energy in the latest drama.  (The first reason is I just don't like to be lied to!)

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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6 Reply by Azrael (edited by Azrael 2005-12-20 17:37:57)

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Re: Current spiritual dynamic

I'm there, too.  I have been feeling it specifically since October 2004.  For me, it feels like I am being challenged to reach my highest level.  In response, I have stopped most of my nasty habits and am working on the others (smoking namely).  I am opening myself to new understanding and knowledge and the rewards have been outstanding both in the physical and spiritual realms.  New abilities, new jobs, personal growth, family closeness, spiritual connection.  It seems those of us open to change and growth are building up an immense collective energy that will consume the rest of the world soon.

I sense a shift in humanity on the horizon.  The lines in the sand are being drawn and it has nothing to do with rich or poor, religious affiliation, good vs evil (per se), political alignment...it's about embracing change and creating love.  People who choose not to embrace the changes will/are suffer/ing their worst fears of want, need, neglect, loneliness, hopelessness, powerlessness...spiraling deeper into their own personal hell. 

I could be wrong, but that's how I see it. :D

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Re: Current spiritual dynamic

Well yes.  Where to start...

In late 2002 thru early 2003, I had a time of negativity that nearly drove me insane -- literally.  I can't begin to describe it all, it would take forever.  But in general there were odd synchronicities, demonic activity, illness, energy drain, and just bad luck in general.  I'm not sure what was the main driving factor of my suffering -- either a revelation I could not yet handle mentally, or the constant torture by Neg's.  Maybe both.  In one of my chats Montalk remarked that it sounded as if I nearly lost my soul at that time.  I would wholehartedly agree with that conclusion, based on how I felt.  I felt spiritually and mentally *dead*.  And my body was not far behind.

Long story short -- took almost a full year to recover.  I've still not gained all of myself back -- but I'm doing awesome compared to then.  The cure: high hopes, healthy eating, tons of supplements, and even more prayer.  And I gained something else for it, a stronger sense of self than I've ever had.  And positive proof through the experience, albeit subjective, that NE's / demons really exist.

Anyway lately I notice some of the same warning signs.  It's trying to make a comeback, whatever drove me to madness before.  The patterns are all the same.  Only this time it's attacking through my family members, friends, and situations -- instead of attacking me directly.  Everyone is sicker, poorer, and more just generally downtrodden, than I ever remember seeing.

The "timeloops" are also picking back up again -- same kind of odd synchs I had back in 02/03.  Seeing synchs so strange they can't possibly be true.

In 02 it was *myself* I was worried about -- because I was under attack directly.

Now, its *everyone else* I'm worried about.

That's all for now, I'll write more after giving someone else a turn.

This is no time for the righteous
Only the wicked survive
Bake up a batch of the Yellow Cake
Bake up a batch of the lies
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Re: Current spiritual dynamic

I feel this is a time of being tested and tempered by fire so to speak.  Many will fall, because they haven't truly transformed.  This is a time to watch for and repair any chinks in our "armor".  We must keep our eyes on the prize and not look down into the abyss lest we lose our courage.