1 (edited by Jen 2005-11-03 22:40:09)

Topic: Challenges of Living in Polarity

I was thinking about what are the general challenges of  living in a system of polarity and came up with these.  Any other ideas or comments?

Challenges of Living in Polarity

FEAR

TIME

Confusion about identity--people don't know who they are

HIERARCHY:  placing power outside of oneself

Wanting what is unattainable--"grass is always greener on the other side"

Low Self-Esteem

Loneliness - state of separation from Source

Re: Challenges of Living in Polarity

Nice ideas Jen. When I think of polarity I think of two sides of the same coin or they are the same thing but aspects of it. It's just that the unified whole is less obvious in this dimension i guess and the polarity is more obvious. I guess it depends on the entity's perception.

Characteristics of polarity:

Separation/Unity

Low frequency emotions/ High frequency

STS/STO

Growing/Dying

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

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Jen-

I have always thought of extreme polarity as an almost complete circle.  Although, on the surface, the opposites appear worlds apart, often the foundation upon which their separateness occurs are closer together than a neutral stance.

I do not believe that it is coincidence that polar opposites attract and exchange often significant energieswith each other.


Just some thoughts-

Soulful

4 (edited by altamash 2005-11-03 10:25:16)

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All for One and One for All

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oceanchild wrote:

if there's anyone in the toronto area (or anywhere else) looking for a great person to talk to regarding personal matters, i would highly recommend Lorie (drop me a note if interested and i will pass her # on to you - she also does over-the-phone-consultations)

I live in scarborough, i'd be interested in talking to her. Does she use instant messenger service like msn ?

All for One and One for All

6 (edited by Jen 2005-11-03 10:40:51)

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Thanks all, good comments.  I think I mistitled this thread, it should actualy be "Characteristics of Living in a System of Polarity" although I know that's a mouthful. 

Yes, Hildegarde, polarity is well symbolized by "two sides of the same coin" and all the poles that go with that.  Like separation/unity--paradoxically, can't have one without the other.

Good observation, SoulfulWanderer, about polar opposites often getting together and exchanging significant energies.  I've often wondered why it is that many of the people in my life have been so different from me (including my current apartment-mate); there's my answer.  It sure is a challenge, but it's the challenges that stimulate us to grow and learn.

And oceanchild, I agree that becoming aware of this polarity and learning to maneuver consciously within it is crucial to mastery.  The Pleiadians compare it to the game board of alternating black and white squares, and say that we are here to become our own game-masters. 

Wow, that is a great blueprint for self-mastery from your friend.  My compliments to Lorie!  I'm going to save it for my files, thanks for sharing!  A great guide to playing the game consciously. 

"Friend or Foe" (as listed in "Robot Land" in that blueprint) is an important aspect of being unconscious in this game--another version of "Us and Them."  How easily we can fall into this mindset, even we at NR who are supposedly so much more aware than the average person!

Edit:  Wow, altamash, thanks for posting those graphics from the Law of One, they look awesome!  going to study them now...

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Jen and all,
Great post and comments. I feel that the root of this polarity problem is confusion about who we actually are, and I feel that all else stems from this. Very provocative, will spend more time reading all thoroughly when I have time.

Take care,

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impatiens wrote:

Jen and all,
Great post and comments. I feel that the root of this polarity problem is confusion about who we actually are, and I feel that all else stems from this. Very provocative, will spend more time reading all thoroughly when I have time.

Take care,

I agree impatiens, confusion about who we are is at the root of the challenges posed by living in a system of polarity, and this is why, for example, we experience fear, the illusion of time,  and the other things I listed in my initial post here, though I'm sure that list is incomplete.

The discussion about discovering who we are in another thread, "The Safer Probable Future", led me to conclude that we are (1) creators, and (2) the witness, or simply "that", as in "I am that."  It strikes me that we can be more effective creators when we can detach from the changeable personality/ego self and observe ourselves and our life from the point of view of the witness, where we can create from the space of "being" rather than "doing."

Just feeling my way here...

9 (edited by dreamosis 2005-11-04 19:53:15)

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Jen wrote:

HIERARCHY:  placing power outside of oneself

This is the most notable characterisitc of living in a system of polarity for me. 

Hierarchies are predicated upon something, though.  You could say labels, and ultimately, judgments.

It is ignorant to deny that there are varieties and levels of beings, but I believe that it is in the absence of an acknowledgment of a basic equality that cruelty flourishes.

There are beings with more awareness than others, but perhaps only in illusion.  To me, it's when there's an acknowledgment of the illusion--the hierarchical game being played--that true communication and cooperation and trust flourishes.  The game is an expedient (for evolution), but if it is believed in (rather than pretended), people get hurt and their evolution slows down.

There's the famous Kierkergaard saying: "When you label me, you negate me."  I interpret that to mean that when a label is applied, it is like telling the human being to be a noun (which it is not--it is a verb, an ever-changing, ever-flowing, psychdelic thang... smile )

Labels are the result of duality...The Us and Them. 

Maybe the opposite of labels are "roles," which can be had and assumed while still living in the acknowledgment of interconnectedness.

You can't change a tiger's stripes,
but you can avoid its teeth.

10 (edited by Jen 2005-11-04 12:33:20)

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Wonderful insights, dreamosis.  I had not heard that Kierkegaard saying,
but I have certainly felt the truth of it in my life.  As a 'disabled" person (deafness, onset age seven)  I had to struggle to rise above that label, since so much of my experience seemed to be defined by it. I would assume the same is true of people who are out of the mainstream in other ways, i.e. ethnic minorities, gays, etc.  (These people, by and large, are also "low on the totem pole" of hierarchy.) It took some time for me to really grok on a deep level, that who and what I am cannot be truly limited or even defined.   This was a turning point in my detachment from the illusion of duality, and it relates to what impatiens said about polarity having its roots in not knowing who we are...

Edit:  It's interesting that only when I was able to finally take a neutral stance toward my deafness, seeing it as neither good nor bad but simply as experience, that I was able to resolve this in harmonious manner (cochlear implant surgery, a "bionic ear").  I still don't have perfect hearing, but can now hear birdsong, talk on the phone, and just hear better in general, which is enough of a resolution for me.

And I still have the "silence option" when I turn off my sound processor.
By now I've realized that's quite a blessing! cool  Just goes to show that nothing is really negative or positive in itself, it's all in our perspective...

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Jen-

I believe your statement of "nothing is really negative or positive in itself" speaks to the heart of the matter.  Living in a system that places a positive or negative value on an outcome, or even a beingness, creates the varied issues stated in your initial post.

In any given situation, regardless of any initial value attached can, if a decision is made, be redefined to include the opposite energy tag.

Each of us, as creators, hold the possibilty within our grasp to define our reality in a manner that either contributes to the perpetuation of fear, anxiety, angst, etc. or not. 

With that stated possibility, comes the responsibility to be present in a moment where reactivity reigns and step into a broader perspective to chose the next moment.  Time does indeed slow when asked.  The past does indeed change when asked. The future does indeed meet us when asked.

Be well.

Soulful

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Jen wrote:

It's interesting that only when I was able to finally take a neutral stance toward my deafness, seeing it as neither good nor bad but simply as experience, that I was able to resolve this in harmonious manner...

So your healing began when you transcended a duality (the "I'm not OK [as a deaf person]--they're OK [as hearing persons].") smile

...Your wording is interesting, too.  You said you moved forward once you took a neutral "stance..." I think another big characteristic of living in a system of duality is stances, positionalities.   It's when you stepped out of a positionality on it, entered a non-stance (the stance of neutrality) that the problem resolved itself.

...This relates to that Halexandria.com essay, too.  The author wrote that a problem only persists as long as there is a lie. 

You removed the lie, or saw through it--the lie that you were lesser because of your deafness.

You can't change a tiger's stripes,
but you can avoid its teeth.

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Thanks for your comments, SoulfulWanderer and dreamosis.  This discussion is clarifying a lot for me.  Great points about defining our 
reality in a way that does not feed the negative pole of polarity, and about positionality in relation to resolving a problem.

Yes, dreamosis, I did see through the generally accepted point of view that deafness was a horrible fate, that I was stigmatized by being "different", etc. I may still encounter those who do take this attitude, but it just doesn't matter anymore.  It's interesting that when I first got together with my son's dad, he admitted to me that he had reservations about getting involved because he feared that I wouldn't understand him.
A reasonable doubt, you might think.  Yet, my son paid me a great compliment recently.  We were talking about how much better I could hear now, and he volunteered that he always felt I understood him better than anyone else, even before I got my "bionic ear." 
To paraphrase "The Little Prince": only with the heart can one hear rightly, what is essential is inaudible to the ear. smile

And I agree with the Halexandria essay that a problem only persists as long as there is a lie.  (And, the "lie" is that one creates it and then pretends one didn't.) I'm about halfway through it now, here's the link for those who may wish to check it out: http://www.halexandria.org/dward836.htm

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Jen wrote:

To paraphrase "The Little Prince": only with the heart can one hear rightly, what is essential is inaudible to the ear. smile

And I agree with the Halexandria essay that a problem only persists as long as there is a lie.  (And, the "lie" is that one creates it and then pretends one didn't.) I'm about halfway through it now, here's the link for those who may wish to check it out: http://www.halexandria.org/dward836.htm

Imo, a gem of a thread which only gets better and better. Like a fine, aged wine perhaps?

The little prince is one of my all-time favs. And that is a brilliant quote from it. Hear! Hear!

Will visit that Halex essay when time, that site is amazing!

take care ever'body, amj

15 (edited by Jen 2005-11-12 12:01:36)

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impatiens wrote:

Imo, a gem of a thread which only gets better and better. Like a fine, aged wine perhaps?

A toast to you, impatiens--the best from my cellar smile

The little prince is one of my all-time favs. And that is a brilliant quote from it. Hear! Hear!

LOL! Yup, hear, hear...with the heart of course...

big_smile