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Topic: "The General Resurrection" and the NWO Plan of Population Reduction

Most have heard, through one source or another, that the supposed NWO plan includes drastic population reduction.  Usually, the purpose of this is understood in logisitical terms, i.e., a hundred million is easier to monitor and control than a thousand million.

I was reading part II of "Gnosis" by Mouravieff yesterday (available in the files section).  He proposes a theory that the Chrisitian, biblical resurrection means the simultaneous incarnation of all the (adamic) souls associated with the earth plane over time.  The recent upswing in the populations, says he, is a sign of the time that souls associated with earth are preparing for a major shift.

What if population control has little or nothing to do with physical control of people, but is instead aimed at preventing a critical number of evolved souls from incarnating and nudging the earth into a higher vibration? 

What if the recent ("over-")population of humankind is directly related to a coming shift?

When I read the Mouravieff, and thought about what I wrote above, I recalled hearing a similar New Age theory years ago?  (That all souls were attempting to incarnate simultaneously now). 

If nothing else, and if unrelated to a coming shift, one would have to admit that the simultaneous incarnation of all souls associated with earth's history would make for one hell of a party... smile

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I'm so very sorry, but your application for resurrection has been put on a waitlist due to unexpected volume.  The expected wait time to process your request is approximately twenty years.  You may apply for expedited resurrection by paying an additional fee.

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tenetnosce wrote:

I'm so very sorry, but your application for resurrection has been put on a waitlist due to unexpected volume.

lol

Your post reminds me of "Defending Your Life" (a movie) with Albert Brooks.

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(dreamosis)  I was reading part II of "Gnosis" by Mouravieff yesterday (available in the files section).  He proposes a theory that the Chrisitian, biblical resurrection means the simultaneous incarnation of all the (adamic) souls associated with the earth plane over time.  The recent upswing in the populations, says he, is a sign of the time that souls associated with earth are preparing for a major shift........What if the recent ("over-")population of humankind is directly related to a coming shift?

yesyesyes!!  this isn't just a (gnostic) christian concept, you know.

a global consciousness shift is imminent...and, of course, everyone wants to be here for that party!

What if population control has little or nothing to do with physical control of people, but is instead aimed at preventing a critical number of evolved souls from incarnating and nudging the earth into a higher vibration?

yikes...that musing has never entered my mind!  (hmm...feeling a tad paranoid?)  very valid consideration, though.  if this is so, it (holding back the dimensional shift) would certainly not be a conscious motivation for the human "them", but a movement implemented by a higher (non-human), negative force.  (Archons, anyone?)  either way, it would be a futile attempt...our planet has experienced such shifts in the past, and the next one is inevitable.

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free2be wrote:

(Archons, anyone?)  either way, it would be a futile attempt...our planet has experienced such shifts in the past, and the next one is inevitable.

I tend to agree.  I tell myself it could "get darker" before the end of the tunnel, but that thought is only a thought.

Here's the positive, probable future!

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dreamosis wrote:

What if population control has little or nothing to do with physical control of people, but is instead aimed at preventing a critical number of evolved souls from incarnating and nudging the earth into a higher vibration? 

What if the recent ("over-")population of humankind is directly related to a coming shift?

I had an interesting email exchange about this with Raphiem, the receiver (not channeler) of the ForeverBlue material.  The Blue entity says that we need 7.2 billion embodied souls to go to the next dimension and the PTB are doing their best to kill us off so that doesn't happen.

Here's an excerpt from one of his emails. KYSOYS stands for "Know yourself, own yourself" and "generator of dreams" is g.o.d. = god.

Raphiem wrote:

there is a universal clock
the train arrives soon
god needs to embody 7.2billion people
to become fully realised material and non-material

Earth needs to merge/ascend with her higherself as we need to also
the problem is we havegotten ourselves, lost the keys ..

i.e. 7.2billion people need to get on that train

yes there are parallel universes and earths

Earth
Tara
Gaia

Tara and Gaia are considered future-selves, but the future is coming to us in 2012
the future will be our past ...

Tara is considered pergutory/limbo land .... Gaia is where Earth and Tara need to be ..

they all line up as the gears mesh in 2012 and become one

but in order to jump across you need the keys to the temple

this is where KYSOYS comes in

sure you can die and go back into the all that is
but never become full realised god experiencing matter

those who feed of us, don't want this to happen as they will dissolve if we go
as they do not have the keys and need to hijack us/planet

i know it sounds ike a lot of ego and us vs them, but ont he same token it isn't ... it is us vs us.

it's all about memory ..... self-imbedding / symmetry / self incursion ....

the generator of dreams can not lose the memory, otherwise will have to reload the operating system and what a big task that is ...

I have some problems with this theory.  For one thing, I don't think anyone dies before their time--this is always orchestrated by the Higher Self.  For another, I don't think it takes the probabilities concept into consideration.  There is not just one world, nor just three, and which version we find ourselves in is dependent on our vibration and frequency, not on the machinations of the power elite, or anything else that is external to who and what we are.

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Another New Age theory I heard (can't remember where) is that earth changes kill a good portion of the "lower frequency" individuals, leaving the collective reality to rise in vibration due to removal of the damping factors.

The population is so large nowadays that given how many people have existed over the past 10,000+ years on earth, and considering that many of those are repeat reincarnations, I think it's possible that today we can have simultaneous incarnation of all the 'adamic' people.

However, there are people I'm pretty sure were souled who have died over the past several years and I doubt they have reincarnated already, so the ones left are not the full 100% of all the souls available.

Yet, often we hear that "the life you are living now is the real deal, past lives were more for training" -- meaning that while previous lifetimes were chosen from among a long span of time, with large variation between the set of lives,  now is the time for prepared souls to converge and play their part.  So, another reason why the population explosion fits.

I think one last reason is that for the sake of balance, if a billion adamics incarnate, then there must be a billion pre-adamics also being born to counterbalance it.  So the expansion is double what it could be otherwise.

Then you gotta factor in the idea that entities from other dimensions, planets, densities, galaxies, timelines, futures, etc... have squeezed their way in for the big show as observers, experiencers, or influencers.

Like a farewell rock concert, this stadium's getting a little crowded.

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THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

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Gaia scientist Lovelock predicts planetary wipeout
Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:12am ET136

By Jeremy Lovell

LONDON (Reuters) - The earth has a fever that could boost temperatures by 8 degrees Celsius making large parts of the surface uninhabitable and threatening billions of peoples' lives, a controversial climate scientist said on Tuesday.

James Lovelock, who angered climate scientists with his Gaia theory of a living planet and then alienated environmentalists by backing nuclear power, said a traumatized earth might only be able to support less than a tenth of it's 6 billion people.

"We are not all doomed. An awful lot of people will die, but I don't see the species dying out," he told a news conference. "A hot earth couldn't support much over 500 million."

Source: http://today.reuters.com/news/articlene … amp;rpc=22

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There is an idea I read that goes something like; 5 to 10 billion cooperating molecules form a working cell. 5 to 10 billion cooperating nerve cells form a brain capable of self-consciousness. 5 to 10 billion cooperating self-conscious beings form... what? A "global brain"? An awakened planet?

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A global brain is what we want to avoid in my opinion. One cannot awaken if one does not have personal freedom. The idea of freedom is that choices are available...a global brain would discourage individual expression, and promote humanity to become sheep, lead by the sheperds of power.
A global brain sounds like something the Borg from Star Trek would enforce upon a species. And  I fail to see how more or less people would affect the degree of awakening. It depends  upon the individual to awaken, and by doing so, you further the progression of your soul group.  The quality, not the quantity of people, of humans, undergoing significant spiritual evolution is what matters.
The only reason why more would be better is that there would be a higher potential of attracting advanced souls that could help in this transition. "7.2 billion" people is just a number.
I could see possible resource shortages causing conflicts, particularly in areas of Asia (Bangladesh) and areas of sub-Saharan Africa, such as Sudan. These conflicts could cause humanity to split, yet there is also a greater potential for humanity to wake up, and place a greater importance on what matters: the health of the people, the health of the Earth, and the health of the soul. I think that anytime between now and February 2008, we can anticipate certain events where our reaction to them will decide how well we fair for the rest of our lives, and the future of our planet.
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I just got off the freeway. I can assure you, without reservation, that a "critical number of evolved souls" is not one of our worries at this time. Planet-X or a pole shift is much more likely.

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Magical_Mongoose wrote:

A global brain is what we want to avoid in my opinion. One cannot awaken if one does not have personal freedom. The idea of freedom is that choices are available...a global brain would discourage individual expression, and promote humanity to become sheep, lead by the sheperds of power.

That's the key question. The present power structure would be rendered powerless; you'd either be part of the "collective" or have no influence on it. The collective wouldn't allow a "Borg Queen". But... would individuals have any self-determination in such a setup?

I've done group energy work. The group forms it's own very powerful collective while also sharing feelings, goals and sometimes thoughts. It did remind me of the Borg smile but it was voluntary and controlled by the individual members. So, if enough self-conscious beings joined in a similar collective could it "wake up"? Would it be of benefit to the members? Would it still be voluntary?

weopposedeception wrote:

I just got off the freeway. I can assure you, without reservation, that a "critical number of evolved souls" is not one of our worries at this time. Planet-X or a pole shift is much more likely.

Imagine a planetary collective of 10 billion Homer Simpsons. lol

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