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Topic: The future of America?

I just found this blog today via whatreallyhappened. And must say that I really appreciate this woman's perspective.

Does this sound like the future of America? Sure seems eerily familiar (close) to me.

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Friday, June 24, 2005
Third World White

Faith in the American dream is basically for White folks, with the majority of those folks without good sense. Too many white folks don't grasp the turning point of what's happening in America today. Jerry Springer souls who see themselves as June and Ward leaving a legacy to the little Cleavers. And decent white folks who unfortunately still see the land of opportunity with the eyes of the 1950s. Poverty, joblessness, low wages, illiteracy, destruction of the family unit, has always been a struggle fought by minorities and now it's come home to Johnny White but he denies it.

In eras past White America had the Negro, the illegals, the opposition party as scapegoats, but those goats aren't as easy to stake down and blame America's problems on these days. There's not much difference in the 2 parties and it's no longer politically correct to blame darker folks for white failure. Though god knows millions of pale faces still believe it is and try. Maybe some can blame terrorism or terrorists but homegrown scapegoats aren't so much multiple choice anymore.

Most of white America also doesn't recognize that the same oppression that kept brown folks down is now targeting average Johnny White America. I'm not sure I'd even call it "oppression" as it is simply the law of supply. When there's too many to share the pie with, the greedy pie-keepers push those who are different away from the table. As the feeders grow in number it has to eventually exclude more white pie-eaters. Because upper class White Haves have less use for Johnny White they have to squeeze more white members down and out, rapidly. Once called white privilege, the privileges are being reduced for most of white America. Not taken away by minorities, goodness no, nonwhites haven't that kind of power. But taken away by their own. The old phrase "it's a man's world" is more appropriately a "white man's world", but today that won't take the average Johnny White man as far as it used to. No longer does the white ruling class care if Johnny White has employment, housing, education, opportunity, good health, it now doesn't even offer a definitive target to blame his fall on. As far as his "betters" are concerned, Johnny White can keep falling to the bottom. Serve or entertain is Johnny's options these days, just like brown folks have for a long time.

It's simple. Not only does Johnny White no longer produce mega capital for America's ruling class, he is no longer necessary as a consumer for the products he once produced. With 3 billion in China and India markets, who cares if 200 million gringos no longer buy $200 tennis shoes. Even at $10 a pair, 3 billion people with feet is just as profitable. Do the math. As Henry made his model T affordable to his workers so will multinational manufacturers to their new consumers, Ching Li and Bansi Bhanuprakash.

As Ford Motor no longer makes money on autos, but on the interest in lending to buyers, Johnny White America is no longer a viable credit market. The day is here when minimum wage will not float a 5 year auto loan or home mortgage. When only the upper class John White can afford $1000 a month car notes welcome to the world of POS cars (piece of shit) and raggedy ass taxis that smell like dirty feet and cigarettes. IBM etal can pay Bansi and Ching to train, market, and sell to one another, who needs po' unproductive Johnny White? Have you researched who owns America's wealth? It ain't Johnny. But lets not look under the rock of capitalism.

White "privilege" is already installing little measures that will weed out ne'er do well Johnny White. Special "clear" cards for airline flyers. Banking, DMVs, and housing rentals are enforcing stricter ID guidelines all in the name of securing the homeland but sorting the chaff at the same time. Identifying economic status. The upper classes will find no hassle in paying extra fees, providing documentation, having underlings to take care of hasslework, to secure special treatment ID. At the same time it ensures even white folks who don't travel much are treated like the least of us. It ensures poor white folks don't lie to get that license, cable TV, telephone, HUD rental, cash a check, fix that DUI, or get a gun permit. Fortified America, with a lot of white folks joining the ranks of the brown folks who cannot afford to buy special treatment ID. Welcome to the back of the bus. According to Homeland Security many of the coming changes will allow the concentration on those groups which are more likely to perpetrate fraud, lying, etc. Not professional criminals, but the desperate and poor who lie and cheat like criminals, as the professional criminals are in charge anyway.

Oh I know the huffy protest about if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about…yonk yonk…but truth is: if you can afford to have it erased you have nothing to worry about. Like all bureaucracy, the price starts small so it seems a reasonable request. John White can tout it as "keeping us secure" while tens of thousands of white and pink collar jobs are shipped to India (ignore that records and identities are sold, stolen, or ransomed). They'll just sell us more identity protection to protect us. Oh, that's right, "it's a different world" now. Sure it is, for white folks.

And when BushCo announces a military conscription or facsimile of, to protect us, Johnny White's past sin of stubborn bigotry will muzzle him. He'll pretend he wants it. Johnny will have to keep feeding fodder to the capitalist system he created a few hundred years ago. A government gun will be the only status for millions like him. Throwing away perfectly good white boys to keep the system slogging on a little longer. And I know folks think America will never be a "has been" until it is one. The standard of living slipping gradually goes almost unnoticed and each generation thinking their standard is the way it always was.

It all brings to mind some of my residency in third world countries. While the majority of people lacked everything, the ruling oligarch lacked nothing. Those in uniform were the "middle class" with a few privileges and the chance to be noticed. Where most citizens lived in cardboard shanties, shacks or mud huts, were rationed food and water, and if lucky a few hours of electricity, those who ruled spent evenings poolside, dining on surf and turf, and briefly, but fashionably, discussing the plight of the country's poor before enjoying themselves. That's where Johnny White America is headed, but with the American flare for things: Out to the shanty, with TV, prescriptions and foodstamps, to squat with the rest of the world, gaze at the party lights in the big house and wait for a few dollars from Johnny's allotment check.

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Re: The future of America?

Hey impatiens,

very thoughtprovoking!  The ruling classes here in America have always used race as a way of hiding the horrors brought on by the economic system they benefit from (i.e. telling poor whites that their enemy is the black man as opposed to the system itself).  Given the fact that economic exploitation is increasing, I wonder how the powerful will explain it to the white masses?  Blame Indians and Chinese even while outsourcing jobs to those parts of the world?   

I happen to think that the groundwork is currently being laid (I think unconsciously, but I am open to other ideas) for a war with China within the next decade.  Perhaps when China becomes an "enemy of freedom," poor whites will either sign up or be shipped off to go fight the next "good war" against the enemy of the Republic. 

It is sad how easily we as a species are distracted by appeals to skin color!  I often think about how crazy I'm sure I would have looked had I lived in the 1830s or 40s, when people in the US were held in servitude because of their skin pigment.  It is bad now, but it helps to remember that it used to be a lot worse.   Still, racism continues to thrive. . .

Your focus determines your reality -- Qui Gon Jinn

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Just a (slightly) different way of describing the NWO. Its not just the working class, its the middle classes too,they will feel it most as they have further to fall.

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Thanks you two for your comments. Many people have discussed this, but I like the way she's presented it. And it's no secret, if you've got your eyes open, to see that we live in fake democracies, Canada, U.S. where ever... our political systems are no better, not much different from Medieval Feudalism.

"Rien ca change. Plus ca change." Very loosely translated: Same shit. Different day. Or Groundhog Day (the film), stuck in a time loop/warp. wink

Jez,

I absolutely agree about the middle classes. They are the ones who have the "most" to lose; first of all and not least of all, their delusions. It's gonna' get ugleeee

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Intresting read, a bit slanted but certainly not off base. Funny Groundhog was brought up. That's a perfect description of working a tick-tock job and i use that expression almost daily with co-workers. Something you may not know about the story behind Groundhog Day is it took him 10 Years to figure out what he needed to do to break free tongue

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Thanks for that article, impatiens.

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Fusion wrote:

Intresting read, a bit slanted but certainly not off base. Funny Groundhog was brought up. That's a perfect description of working a tick-tock job and i use that expression almost daily with co-workers. Something you may not know about the story behind Groundhog Day is it took him 10 Years to figure out what he needed to do to break free tongue

10 years eh? IMO, that's not bad in the long scheme of life/time.

Wandering,

da nada! smile

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That blog entry sounds eerily parrallels to the story John Titor talked about in his future time of 2036.

For anyone who doesn't know, John Titor is/was a "Time traveler" from the year 2036 in a worldline apparently 2.5% different than our own.  He was sent back to retrieve some computer needed in his time, and he for some reason stopped in during the year 2000 for 4 months and he participated in a number of forum discussions and he talked about an American Civil war amongst a number of other things.... Well the Civil War was apparently sparked by the actions of the American  government and how they wanted to "Increase Security" measures and impose or rather remove a great deal of your rights and freedoms, and do the "chip implant"thing... Illeagal search and arrests..etc.etc...... the government was wrong... the people chose freedom over "security" and revolted.....What more, also contributing to the reason of civil war was the discovery that they did in fact live in a "fake democracy".

But who knows eh? apparently in his worldline Y2K happened.and "Canadians in 2036 are some of the most efficient, ruthless and dangerous people I know. God help Quebec. "

What's to come in the next decade???

I'd Give my Right Arm to be Ambidextrous

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twizttid1 wrote:

But who knows eh? apparently in his worldline Y2K happened.and "Canadians in 2036 are some of the most efficient, ruthless and dangerous people I know. God help Quebec. "

LMAO. Not!

Y2K did occur. Though not in the way it was advertised/fear mongered. It actually was the biggest/last marketing scam ($$$ grab) of the century IMO.

As far as Canucks being among the most efficient? Don't know about that, but we can be resourceful, as can any people when necessity dictates.

Ruthless and dangerous? I can see that. We're just not nearly as nice as we are billed/stereotyped. And that would include Quebecois/e.

All human nature eh, Twizttid1.

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And now for an "encore":

http://www.counterpunch.org/

July 12, 2005

The Jobs Problem is Worse Than the War Problem
The No-Think Nation
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Thought is not an American forte. Consider the speed with which our government got us trapped in two quagmires, Iraq and Afghanistan.

The CIA says that Bush's invasion of Iraq has created ideal conditions for training insurgents and terrorists. The longer we are there, the worse it gets.

Our military is being worn down by a gratuitous war [geez I do appreciate that description, it's so spot on] of no benefit to anyone except Osama bin Laden. Bush's war has provided substance for bin Laden's propaganda and radicalized the Middle East.

Bush's war is being financed by debt, and the result is to give our foreign bankers more control over our interest rates and our currency's value, should they choose to use the power we have placed in their hands.

Not only has our government demonstrated an inability to think before rushing to war, it cannot think about the economy either.

Each month in the 21st century the government's own statistics tell the tale of the US winding down as a superpower and devolving into a third world country. Not a single net new high tech or manufacturing job has been created for native-born Americans in the 21st century.

Month after month this devastating information is released and ignored.
Now comes a report from Richard Freeman, professor of economics at Harvard University and associate of the National Bureau of Economic Research. Freeman's conclusions suggest that the US is not only losing its lead in science and engineering but also might be losing the professions themselves.

A country that outsources its manufacturing and its R&D abroad doesn't have jobs for its own engineers and scientists.

Corporations have moved many information technology, high-tech manufacturing, engineering, and research and development jobs away from America to lower cost countries principally in Asia. The result is declining opportunities and salaries for American graduates in science and engineering, which discourages students from these curriculums.

As my free market friends are found of saying, "the market works." It certainly does. The market is working to close down the great American middle class and to dismantle the ladders of upward mobility.

The US economy in the 21st century has been able to create new jobs only in nontradable domestic services. A labor market orientated toward domestic services is the hallmark of a third world economy.

The jobs problem is more serious than the war problem and receives even less attention. Economists misperceive the offshore outsourcing of jobs as the beneficial workings of free trade, a subject they have given scant thought for 200 years, being, as they are, content with Ricardo's demonstration that comparative advantage ensures mutual gains from trade.

America's no-think economists have yet to fathom that the offshore outsourcing of jobs reflects the workings of absolute advantage, not comparative advantage. When American capital, technology and business know-how employ foreigners in place of Americans, foreigners benefit and Americans lose.

In the short-run the corporations benefit. The lower labor costs raise profits and executive bonuses. But the long-run effect is to destroy the US consumer market for the goods and services that the corporations supply from abroad.

American profits and American employment no longer move in tandem. A recent report in the New York Times by John Markoff and Matt Richtel says profits have rebounded in Silicon Valley but not employment. They use the example of Wyse Technology, a maker of computer terminals.

At the beginning of this year, 90 percent of Wyse's work force was in Silicon Valley. At the present time the figure is 48 percent, with only 15 percent of its engineers remaining in Silicon Valley. The reason?

Wyse has created technology development teams in India and China, adding 100 employees in India and 35 in China so far this year.

America has a new development model, one unprecedented in history. The growth and prosperity of American corporations is now keyed directly to the employment of foreign workers in place of Americans.

It is impossible for a country to prosper when its capital, technology, and business knowledge are used to enhance the productivity of foreign workers in place of its own. American incomes are stagnating and falling. By abandoning American employees, corporations are eroding the great American consumer market and America's position in the first world.

Paul Craig Roberts has held a number of academic appointments and has contributed to numerous scholarly publications. He served as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. His graduate economics education was at the University of Virginia, the University of California at Berkeley, and Oxford University. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions. He can be reached at: paulcraigroberts@yahoo.com

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*sigh*

Why are there so many Chicken Littles around nowadays?

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will1129 wrote:

*sigh*

Why are there so many Chicken Littles around nowadays?

Hey there will1129.

What is your take on what's happening?

Doesn't need to be a whole essay or anything.  Just a comment or two may help to clarify your remark.

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It is what is it.

America has a not-so-proud history of bigotry and racism. I disagree, however, that the upper-class whites are searching for a group to scapegoat right now (if that was what the author was saying, I wasn't too clear). And I don't believe Bush will have a draft either.

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will1129 wrote:

America has a not-so-proud history of bigotry and racism. I disagree, however, that the upper-class whites are searching for a group to scapegoat right now (if that was what the author was saying, I wasn't too clear). And I don't believe Bush will have a draft either.

??  Where does it mention any of this in the article?  Guess I missed it...

I have to say I was a little surprised to see your comment about "Chicken Little."  This article is very spot on, to me.  This is what our economic situation is.  It's not "Chicken Little."   

I'm not sure how old you are Will, but this country is going down the tubes very quickly.   I have high cynicism that people from my generation (30 and younger) will reap the benefits of their 401Ks (if they have them) and Social Security.  I know that I don't personally have delusions about it anyway.  Wal*Marts dominate small town America, putting Mom n Pop joints out of business and harming the companies that sell their products through Wal*Mart at forced discounted rates.   There are hardly any manufacturing jobs anymore because they're all being shipped to Mexico and Asia- my dad for instance has carved out his career in manufacturing, and in a way he's lucky to have risen to the position that he did (management supervisor, second highest in the factory underneath the Plant Manager) and to even still have a factory to work at.  That's how bad it's gotten.  In many states, you have 500 people competing for the same meager minimum wage paying job.  I poked around in Portland Oregon when I first got there, inquiring about the job situation.   I was told there were over 500 applications on file for the cashiering positions at the local K Mart.   Hundreds on file for the cash wrap position at Barnes and Noble.   They wouldn't even interview people anymore for these positions..........too many candidates begging for the measly job.

I don't know, I could go on.  I don't have to I guess, the article and many others like it on Rense.com sum it up better than I can here in one paragraph.  And I don't mean to inject a feeling of gloom and doom and to make anybody feel like there's no hope, and that they can't get a job themselves, or have success, because that's not true.  One person's situation isn't the same as another's.   Different factors determine success.   So I guess my bit of advise is:   Be informed and know what's going on with your country's economics.......but don't believe for a moment that it has to be your fate.   wink

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will1129 wrote:

It is what is it.

America has a not-so-proud history of bigotry and racism. I disagree, however, that the upper-class whites are searching for a group to scapegoat right now (if that was what the author was saying, I wasn't too clear). And I don't believe Bush will have a draft either.

I don't think Bush will have a draft either.  I think that would get way too messy politically.  Far more likely that we get "drafted" here at home to spend time making weapons while the government buys mercenaries, or imports cheap labor from south of the border to fight in the military (in return for citizenship for example).

The racial comments in the original article are a little muddled, agreed, especially since it does not make explicit reference to the fact that it has been upper class whites who have successfully played off middle- and poor whites against blacks so as to hide the deeper class structure (a strategy that has been remarkably effective, IMHO).  But I think the article was arguing that it is exactly these middle- and poor whites that accept cultural messages that they are superior to black and brown folk who will be the ones most screwed by current economic and foreign policies of this current administration.  She states:

"In eras past White America had the Negro, the illegals, the opposition party as scapegoats, but those goats aren't as easy to stake down and blame America's problems on these days. There's not much difference in the 2 parties and it's no longer politically correct to blame darker folks for white failure. Though god knows millions of pale faces still believe it is and try. Maybe some can blame terrorism or terrorists but homegrown scapegoats aren't so much multiple choice anymore."

In other words, in the past it was blacks, today it is terrorists (all of whom happen to be brown and Muslim, even while someone like Eric Rudolph, who would almost certainly fit in the generic definition of a "terrorist", escapes the label).   Yet unlike other eras, American racism is dissonant because the economy is stagnating while the powerful continue their consolidation of government.

Is it upper class whites looking for a scapegoat?  I tend to think of it more as the ruling elite (who happen to be rich, white, and male) creating yet another phantom menace to keep the people in check, to distract them from the real issues.  In the past it was the fear of the Black Savage, and today it is the fear of the Islamic Raghead Terrorist.    When a new menace seems appropriate, the terrorists will suddenly disappear from the radar screen and be replaced with something else.

Who knows what will happen -- so much is up in the air right now. Sadly, though, I feel the comparison to a third world country is apt.  Let's hope for the best.

SSE

Your focus determines your reality -- Qui Gon Jinn