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Topic: H5N1 Virus

James Donahue, the Luciferian remote viewer has posted some interesting predictions of doomy probable futures at his site http://radioaaron.com   -- Regarding the H5N1 flu virus now stirring trouble in the orient:

http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id1216.html

Donahue said that if Hussein is killed this year, he believes the world will be struck as early as winter by a plague that will kill both humans and animals. He suggested that the avian flu, or the H5N1 virus, may be the bug that sweeps the world.

“I see snow on the ground when people start dying," he said.

He said the disease will be “something like H5N1 and other things could be included."  He said he is looking at the avian flu virus because it has already jumped species and has infected cats, pigs and humans. All this virus needs to do is mutate one more step, so that one infected human can spread the sickness to other humans, and the stage is set for a world pandemic.

There is no known vaccine for this virus.

Donahue warned that even if a vaccine is produced, he would not advise people to receive it. “Vaccines are dangerous,"  he warned.

Instead, the best way to prepare to fight off this looming disease is to stay fit and healthy, and keep our personal immune systems up.

I know "H5N1" is part of a standard naming convention for pathogens, but it's pretty symbolic if you think about it. E is the fifth letter of the alphabet, A is the first so it is equivalent to the term "HENA"

Do a search on "hena" and the only thing that consistently comes up is the star Al Hena - located in the foot of the constellation Gemini.  What does it mean esoterically and astrologically? It has positive connotations, but the negative ones are particuarly interesting:

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gemini_myth.html
Al Hena, the third brightest star of the constellation, is a brilliant white star located in the left foot of Castor. The name has been translated by various authors as a reference to a wound or affliction, with Vivian Robson relating it to "the wound in the tendon of Achilles". [5] The Arabic term is loosely translated to mean a brand or burnt-in mark and it is surprising that more has not been made of its symbolic association with a point of sensitivity and affliction, (admittedly Robson attributes a liability to accidents affecting the feet).

http://www.winshop.com.au/annew/Alhena.html
Ptolemy makes the following observations; the stars in the feet of Gemini have an influence similar to that of Mercury, and moderately to that of Venus; the bright stars in the thighs are like Saturn. It is said to cause trouble and disgrace, sickness, loss of fortune, affliction and danger to the knees. By the Cabalists it is associated with the Hebrew letter Qoph and the 19th Tarot Trump, The Sun

Interesting that Al "HENA" has to do with wounds, afflictions, brand marks, and the achilles heel. The H5N1 virus, if it becomes a pandemic, would have to hit people in the achilles' heel of their immune systems. This would provoke a mass immunization campaign, a flu shot that could be the one many sources have warned about (the C's for instance loudly warned NOT to take the shot). That could only  mean the vaccine is worse than the flu, or perhaps is designed to infect rather than protect. That has been the case with past flu vaccines...everyone I know who took them ended up getting the flu anyway while those who didn't remained healthy.

That a vaccine could pretend to be one thing and achieve quite the opposite is a deceptive duality, and of course Gemini, the twins, represents such a two-facedness in its more negative aspect, which is symbolized by Al Hena being in the foot (achilles' heel) of Gemini.

Not sure what is behind the H5N1 symbolism, whether human design or your typical hyperdimensional signature, but to me it doesn't look like a random.

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2 Reply by wandering1 (edited by wandering1 2005-06-01 22:27:32)

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I think that it may be helpful to be ready for an increase in viruses and disturbances of this type and other types.  Also, I think that caution may be useful when considering whether to get a "vaccine".

3 Reply by Barefoot Doc (edited by Barefoot Doc 2005-06-02 07:14:01)

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Re: H5N1 Virus

Hena is an anagram of a hen (BIRD FLU?) (thats clucking at straws i know smile )
Vietnam is to vaccinate 600,000 chickens against H5N1 see here:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/2230263970

So vaccine matter will find its way into the food chain along with H5N1 dna.

It may be a good idea to keep those zappers, colloidal silver, antiviral herbs and oxygen/ozone safe JUST IN CASE.

A frightened public are very easy to manipulate.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

4 Reply by Barefoot Doc (edited by Barefoot Doc 2005-08-27 05:07:36)

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Bird flu hits the news again, now it appears they are going to blame migrating birds for the spread and warning that a pandemic is inevitable.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4184496.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4182746.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4184346.stm

A few months ago the college of american patholgists mailed out deadly form of the asian flu to over 3000 labs round the world by mistake oh yeh really?
There seems to be little doubt that TPTB are laying the foundations for a pandemic.
Anti viral drugs for all i wonder, which i would avoid like the plague as these are some of the most toxic drugs around but a frightened public will be game for anything.
my Dad who is 72 jokes that the UK is trying to kill of the inceasing numbers of old folks with flu pandemics and hospital aquired infections to solve the pensions crisis smile

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.
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I don't know if its a coincidence or not but at the same time bird flu scare stories hit the news, the medicl proffession via the Lancet ridicules the use of Homeopathy.
Now Homeopathy has a fully documented history of great success in treating former flu pandemics of the 20thC

FROM http://www.cure-guide.com/Flu/Homeopath … e_flu.html

"The death rate of 24,000 flu cases under conventional medical care in that study was 28.2 percent, while the death rate of 26,000 cases treated with homeopathy was a nearly miraculous 1.05 percent. Similarly, many homeopathic physicians each reported treating thousands of patients with very few deaths"

Could Homeopathy along with other alternative treatments be worrying the TPTB as they may interfere with their pandemic plans?

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.
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wandering1 wrote:

I think that it may be helpful to be ready for an increase in viruses and disturbances of this type and other types.

It may behoove us all to remember something the Cs once said: viruses may only access one's body if there is an open consciousness pathway that allows for as much.

And, oh gosh, I'm certainly not picking on you wandering1 wink , if you hadn't of written your exact words I probably wouldn't have thought to put this here. I think we are all best served to be mindful about what we're believing could happen.

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Auendove wrote:
wandering1 wrote:

I think that it may be helpful to be ready for an increase in viruses and disturbances of this type and other types.

It may behoove us all to remember something the Cs once said: viruses may only access one's body if there is an open consciousness pathway that allows for as much.

And, oh gosh, I'm certainly not picking on you wandering1 wink , if you hadn't of written your exact words I probably wouldn't have thought to put this here. I think we are all best served to be mindful about what we're believing could happen.

Hey no problemo!

  Even if there are increased "disturbances" of this type, that doesn't mean that they need to affect us directly - our spiritual immune systems could be potent enough that the bad stuff doesn't stick.

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They have begun to ramp up the scare/fear mongering!!!

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Conten … alogin=yes


GTA gets ready for flu pandemic
If one million people ill, outbreak could cripple the region
Health officials will meet next month to discuss their plans

RITA DALY
STAFF REPORTER

Every public health unit, hospital, town and city in the GTA is getting ready for a flu pandemic, officials say.

"There's a lot of things going on and have been going on for a long time," said Dr. Michael Gardam, head of infection control for the University Health Network and a key player in pandemic preparedness plans.

"I can say honestly, pandemic flu has taken up probably half my time in the last year."

Among the issues being considered are: the ability to staff hospitals, the need for triage centres to access ill people, alternative care facilities to deal with large numbers of sick people, the development of a volunteer management plan, morgue capacity and absenteeism.

"People have to realize everything we do in life will be affected by this," Gardam said yesterday.

Hospitals, nursing homes, school boards, ambulance services, business and government are working together to limit the impact of any pandemic in the GTA.Gardam said there's only so much that can be done to limit its destruction, which is why preparation is so important. And plans are being readied across the region.

In Toronto, public health officials have been discussing how to battle a pandemic since late 2002, with a pause in 2003 while the city wrestled with the SARS outbreak.

"Our job as public health officials is to make the assumption that it's going to hit," said Councillor Joe Mihevc, a member of council's board of health. "We want to be prepared."

A steering committee has been created with representatives from public health, hospitals and police and fire conducting monthly meetings. And business leaders have been alerted to the risk that a new flu virus could cause skyrocketing absenteeism, changes in demand for goods, decreased travel within the city and have other effects.

Next month, officials will hold a town hall meeting that will discuss ways of battling a possible flu outbreak.

Fears of a global outbreak have risen since the avian virus spread recently from Asia into Siberia in eastern Russia and Kazakhstan.

Health Canada, in its pandemic report released last year, estimates up to one-third of the population could fall ill and more than 50,000 people could die as a result of a pandemic.

About 1 million people in the Greater Toronto Area could fall ill, with at least 420,000 requiring medical treatment. Another 7,000 to 8,000 would need in-hospital care.

By comparison, 375 people in the GTA were sick with SARS.....

9 Reply by lyra (edited by lyra 2005-08-27 18:07:16)

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Hmmm.   Wanted to say that besides having the urge to buy a bike recently, I've also been tugged to boost my immune system as well, so I'm currently taking immune system boosting supplements, as well as going through a diet change which cuts out pretty much most of the sugar / dairy sources I would have previously eaten.

I did take a moment to pause and wonder why this is, why I have the immune system boosting urge.  The sugar and dairy originally started out as a candida detox program, but then things branched out to the immune system, interestingly enough.  Almost like something was going, Well, now that you're already going in that direction, here, let's throw this in there as well!   

It can't hurt, that's for sure, but there must be some ulterior reason for it.   I'm making sure to drink green tea and bottled water everyday, as well as an increase in fruits and veggies, lots of fiber, probiotics, flax seed oil and cayenne pepper capsules.  Then I found this really interesting supplement called Kyolic Aged Garlic Extract, which is a mix of Vitamin C, garlic, oregano oil extract, olive leaf extract, astralagus extract, and get this - Premium mushroom complex, including Shitake, Maitake, Reishi and more.  !  All the good Japanese 'shrooms you always find in the health food stores.   I was impressed by the ingredients.   When you open the bottle it smells like a pizza, due to the oregano.  big_smile   Pretty yummy.  I figured it couldn't hurt, and would aid getting rid of anything funny I currently could have in my system. 

Stuart Wilde did mention in passing in one of his articles over the past year that we um, we might want to get our immune systems in order, because we're going to need it.  Seems the powers that be have some plans up their sleeves.  Probably seems pretty common sense to most of us here who are aware of such plots and schemes, but it is one more source saying the same thing.

But again, don't have fear, and don't stress about it, because that ends up creating the opposite effects of what you're going for.   My advise is to just take a quiet, methodical approach to getting your body in order.   Eliminate the obvious health detractors, infuse with fresh healthy organic foods, drink lots of clean water, and pop the supplements you feel will help.  Exercise, and get your mind and body in order.   That's about all one can do.

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Diet and attitude are very important to health. I switched to a vegetarian diet five years ago, and I haven't gotten sick once since then. I used to get sick multiple times a year. I went vegan over a year ago and everything is fine so far. People think vegans are skinny and sickly because of the stereotypical "zealous college vegan" who is only doing it to have a political identity. I think few of those guys know how to cook, and most make themselves ill by eating the normal unhealthy American diet while simply subtracting meat and dairy. But if you take the time to carefully prepare good vegan food for yourself, I think you will be very healthy.

In addition to what she said above, I remember Lyra made a more detailed post about staving off illness by maintaining a positive mental attitude a little while ago. I think this too is true. As long as you have a kind and appreciative relationship with your own body, it will serve you well. If you do not trust your body to protect itself, illness becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Ironically, the stress which comes from worrying about getting sick can weaken your immune system.

I find the "branding" aspect of the meaning of Al Hena interesting. It seems to me that the biblical "mark of the beast" (a type of brand) will either be a microchip or some kind of change in the recipient's DNA. One way to deliver the code necessary to change a person's DNA is through a virus. For decades the fundamentalist Christians have been railing against the implantable microchip as the mark, but they haven't said much about a viral 666.

If the "mark of the beast" is to come in the form of a microchip, only information will be able to save you: the information that microchips are a kind of technology which can be used to track and control you. But if it comes in the form of a virus, only wisdom can save you: the wisdom that a life of faith and peace results in health. Information is a thing which has to be accumulated from outside sources, but wisdom is inborn. If the "mark of the beast" is to be a virus, then innocents who are uninformed but wise will not be infected. If it is to be a microchip, those same innocents (I'm thinking of primitive people, aboriginals, rural people, third world dwellers, etc.) may not have the information they need to say "no".

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As of April, 2006, the bird flu virus remains entirely uncontained. It's spreading like wildfire through bird populations and has, just this week, been found on a chicken farm in the U.K. It only took WEEKS for this virus to cross the European continent.

"Given the high level of global traffic, the pandemic virus may spread rapidly, leaving little or no time to prepare."  - World Health Organization

Governments remain woefully unprepared for the possibility of a human outbreak of this H5N1 virus. The public is being lulled into a false sense of security with the same old rhetoric about vaccines, but it's all nonsense. There simply won't be enough vaccines to go around, not by a long shot.

"Even now, there is little to no excess capacity to absorb more patients, but when pandemic flu arrives there will be a tidal wave of patients arriving in clinics and ERs nationwide. If it happens tomorrow, the system will collapse." - Dr. James A. Wilde of the Department of Emergency Medicine at the Medical College of Georgia

To protect yourself and your family, you must learn the truth about the bird flu virus: How it may mutate, rapidly spread from nation to nation, and ultimately infect an estimated 30% of the world's population.

"It's the most dangerous influenza virus that I've ever seen." - Richard G. Webster, flu researcher at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, Tenn.

"We truly feel that this present threat is likely to stretch our global systems to the point of collapse." - Dr Mike Ryan, director of epidemic and pandemic alert and response at the World Health Organization

"Society just can't accept the idea that 50 percent of the population could die. And I think we have to face that possibility." - Robert G. Webster, St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, Tenn. Webster is one of the world's leading infectious disease experts and is credited with being the first to discover the link between bird flu and human flu

Remember, don't be scared, be prepared. The bird flu is not difficult to survive or prepare for, but you must start ahead of the crowd, or you may be caught dangerously unprepared. Don't let this message scare you, let it motivate you to take action. A well-prepared individual (or family) has nothing to fear from the bird flu threat.

Bird Flu Defense Tip: Want a dirt-cheap antiseptic that kills bird flu viruses on surfaces like doorknobs and countertops? Combine regular bleach with white vinegar in a 1:1 ratio, pour the solution into a spray bottle, and you have a powerful antiviral / antiseptic solution. It's called "acidic bleach," and it spells instant death to superbugs, viruses, bacteria, molds and fungus. For EXTERNAL USE only, of course. Don't drink this, and don't put it in your food or water.

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12 Reply by Ayahuasca (edited by Ayahuasca 2006-04-28 01:04:24)

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Hildegarde wrote:

To protect yourself and your family, you must learn the truth about the bird flu virus

Personally I think the best way to protect yourself from birdflu is to stop believing in it, or at least ignore it!

I'm getting quite annoyed by birdflu right now and I'm making a point of not reading most news articles I see about it other than the headline. Here in the UK not a day goes by without a birdflu story in the news (I flick thru my gran's newspaper every morning and it's just insane how much coverage it's been getting).

It's just so obvious that there's a big agenda behind all the media coverage because when you think about it, it's all being blown way out of proportion when you consider the tiny number of people who may have actually died from it so far.

Thousands and thousands of people are dying from other diseases every single day, some of which can be very contagious, yet they never get a mention.

Personally I think that birdflu will only cause a pandemic if enough people believe it will, hence all the massive amounts of media coverage it gets.

If everybody in the world just ignored it and stop believing in it then it would quietly fade away.

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Aya,
Good points!

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Fair enough Aya.
I don't believe in it either. I don't read the newspaper or watch TV so I don't give energy to it.
We haven't had massive media coverage here in Melbourne I don't think.

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15 Reply by bill_2006 (edited by bill_2006 2006-07-18 20:28:16)

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I occasionally visit nomorefakenews.com and came across this about the bird flu...it is a very telling read and quite interesting.
http://www.nomorefakenews.com/archives/ … p?key=3054
you can also do a search on the searchable archives and read other things regarding this topic. WHAT IS PARTICULARLY STRIKING, is the quote from the head of the CDC 3/4ths of the way down the page which she made in Tacoma, Washington....enjoy.

There is no evidence it will be the next pandemic," Dr. Julie Gerberding, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, said of avian flu. There is "no evidence it is evolving in a direction that is becoming more transmissible to people."

Of course, you can speculate that the CDC is just trying to keep people calm in the face of what will be a devastating epidemic. But then why make such a categorical statement?

It's called cover your ass. Because at every level of medical research, there are people who know what's what, who see the incredible overplay and lies and self-aggrandizing behavior and the non-science. They see it. And somewhere on the record, it would be nice if a big-time bureaucrat like Julie Gerberding made that point in her own way. For later.

She chose Tacoma. Not Washington DC. Not Atlanta, home of the CDC. Tacoma. A little out-of-the-way city.

Where the press coverage is not very heavy.

Naturally, the government has backup for the backup for the backup. It goes this way: "Well, even if H5N1 bird flu turns out to be a dud, we know that some day there WILL be a pandemic, and we have to get ready. We have to have a plan."

Which is like saying, "Chicken Little was right. He just had the timing wrong. The sky will fall. It may happen next month or in 1000 years. During an inter-galactic war that takes place a billion light years from Earth, a missile will be fired and it will miss its target. It will ride on in space, and eventually this super-duper thingo will arrive here and chop away half the planet. So let's get ready now."

Gerberding spoke at the Greater Tacoma Convention & Trade Center at a pandemic flu conference that drew 1,200 people from across the state, mostly health department officials and others involved in emergency planning.

Other officials from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the U.S. Department of Agriculture and elsewhere joined her. Gov. Chris Gregoire and several upper-level state officials also spoke.

Gerberding's comments on bird flu contrast earlier statements from the federal government that tended to emphasize worse-case scenarios.

In a November letter to the public, for instance, President Bush encouraged preparing "ourselves, our nation, and our world to fight this potentially devastating outbreak of infectious disease."

The concern is that the H5N1 strain of bird flu virus will mutate into a form passed easily between people.

end of article excerpt> read the full text at the above link.
Found another quote from Julie...head of the CDC...Dr. Julie Gerberding
"Right now, the H5N1 avian flu is primarily a problem for birds. It is not a pandemic and there is no evidence at the current time that it will ever be a pandemic but we have to be prepared. It’s possible that this virus, which has only occasionally infected people with high mortality rates, could evolve to become more contagious and that is why we are really scaling up our efforts to be prepared. ".          INTERESTING

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