Ascension the ultimate deception? (Page 2 of 3)

At starbuilders.com there's a free e-book, The Ascension of Planetary Consciousness, which seems to be saying that our upcoming ascension will be the first mass ascension:  http://www.starbuilders.org/books/aotpc.html

But when I questioned the site owner, he said that people would have the *choice* whether to ascend or not, but that, as you stipulated, Montalk, the opportunity would be open to all.

Long as I'm posting about free e-books about ascension, here's another one
I liked a lot:  Ascension, The Journey Home:
http://www.newgaia.com/tshaman/book/book.html

Jen

As I mentioned on the OpTerra page, the post I'm making here is in part a response to monica's post there, but it's addressed to all members--

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 405#p21405

The post is #19 at the above link, and is as follows--

I'm getting a kick out of how perfect this thread is for my post. I'm glad I did a search before starting a new thread . It's funny, because when I wrote this post (I've only added a short few comments) I was concentrating only on monica's post, I hadn't a thought one of the relevance of the posts on this thread. Ha! There's even a reference to the OT thread concerning ascension! And because I have shared some info that doesn't necessarily coincide with what others are saying (all the while some of it does ), I just want y'all to know it wasn't written with any of your comments in mind. My post is not a challenge, it's not submitted here to convince anyone of anything...I'm just sharing my experiences and thoughts. As well, one of the posters on this page had privately asked me about 4D bleed through a few weeks back, and now that explanation will be taken care of .

Yes, it is my experience that "ascension", what I know as and call consciousness raising, is an incremental process that progresses under the influence of not only my own interpersonal issuance and on-world external influences (everything from personal relationships to world politics to channeled material), but as well, events in our solar system and the earth's position therein appear to be also influential. Those ebooks Jen was referring to look interesting. Thanks Jen for the reference.

For example--in the late spring of '03 I had read the HH messages, that late spring and summer there were also a number of astronomic/astrological events, but most importantly I had done my homework and was actually prepared to take an informed course of action at that time of opportunity. ...I'm now reminded of the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"... in other words, the opportunity could've been there for me, yet if my awareness was less than prepared I wouldn't have known what to do with it, or maybe even that the opportunity existed. I have a number of times before become aware of lost opportunities after the fact.

I had accrued enough awareness about myself/energy field and was prepared to "step" across a particular personal bridge of consciousness that resulted from my reading the HH messages and interacting with the corresponding planetary interactions. Really, it all worked out very well for me . I'm also very grateful that I didn't fall hook, line, and sinker for the whole she-bang that OpTerra came to be. I'd still be kicking myself in the arse, throwing a big ole nasty profanity ridden stink for putting myself in the position of no return while hyperdimensional beings surgically remove my soul.

This is where I differ (and from more than a few I see). "Ascension"/consciousness raising is a process, the shifting of one's consciousness into another density is an event... if it's anything at all.

Even given what I've just written about consciousness raising, that it is a process with a supposed arrival point, there was everything of instantaneousness the two times I did walk in my 4D body. For this reason, I see "ascension" and a full density shift of consciousness as two different things. I see the the first as resultant of the refinement of one's inner-world, and the later as resultant from a refinement of one's relationship within the outer-world/environment... universal processes. Those two moments were most assuredly cases of light-bulb-on, light-bulb-off... all the while not having to go through the motion of flipping a switch.

Ahem.. and my experiences weren't the result of aliens surgically removing my core and showing it to me... I momentarily was my core, completely unfettered by 3D physicality. From the inside out I was what I have described numerous times, since 1998 when this twice happened, as a chromium-like core that shone brilliant light. I don't mean I literally had a chromium body, the word "body" simply doesn't apply as we know it. I mean my be-ing had that quality of near blinding light rays like is produced when the sun shines on an automobile bumper.

So, maybe the "ascension"/consciousness raising is indeed an ongoing 3D process, the interpersonal process of refining one's energy field while in body, yet based on my experience I do fully entertain the idea that the eventual arrival to that ultimate bridge of consciousness, a density border realm, at the most opportune time (what the Cs described as "the wave", and others may describe as an "in/out breath" moment of the Creator), and occurring the transition to another density realm will indeed happen "within the wink of an eye" . I think the purported occurrence of realm borders shifting will redefine "bah-dah-bing" as we know it .

I/we may "flicker" back and forth between the two density realms, but I think just as we must refine our energy fields, we'll also need to be able to freaking stabilize ourselves therein (gyroscopes, eh? )... there may come a time we will be calling on ourselves to stand resolute, at a still-point, without personal "gravity", while everything else around us simply falls away... If I hadn't momentarily seen this happening with my own two eyes, looking at what was supposed to be my hand, then I surely would never be able to even guess here and now that it could be possible. I understand any skepticism that any one of you may chomping on right now .

Actually, the first time it happened I was dumbfounded and wondered quietly to myself about it. It didn't hurt. I wasn't scared. It was just unprecedented.... for any of many OBE experiences I'd had to that point, nothing was like this was. It then happened again a few months later, under completely different circumstances, and I began to rethink my dumbfoundeness and worry. A few years later I had the opportunity to ask the Cs about it at a session, I think I've posted this, or part of this, somewhere else on the board, but I don't remember where (there is one Q period where there's a few people speaking almost at the same time, lot of brainstorming and conjecture about what was going on, but hang through it... it all worked out in the end, and some of that conjecture is interesting in itself) --

Our universe too is in a state of energy refinement. It is a FRE also. At the moment our universe, our total environment, reaches a stable rate of frequency that transcends the utmost rate of frequency it now vibrates in, then everything will shift and become anew... maybe not a "perfect" anew, like Shangri-La or OpTerra's "Terra", but different from all we now know. Like the Cs said once, the result of the wave, as it will have the potential to affect a shift from 3D to 4D, and other density shifts, is that 4D 'will be a whole new playing field' for passed 3D'ers. They made it fairly clear that it was in our best interest to not build "castles" where they didn't exist, that if we did we would be in for a rude awakening (paraphrased).

I don't think it a takes a huge leap of faith to replace what I've italicized with the essence ot the word refinement to see what I mean about "anew". I'm thinking how well we execute our consciousness raising is not what dictates whether or not a shift will occur, but I do think it will dictate the quality of what that shift will produce as a new environment.

As I think you'll agree monica, and I see here that others have also expressed as much, we are each our own saviors. Anybody telling us they can take away all our woes do so because they're hungry, not because they're benevolent.

We have only to recognize that saving grace and power within ourselves, and realize that it does not come from without... whether that "without" is a religion, or aliens, or 3D devises or potions, or wish-craft. Fortunately, I've found that awareness of our consciousness, including our "issues", our personal "gravity", is 99.9% of the trial. What we do with the remaining 1% can be cumbersome or it may be a cake walk; perception can be a cow, or it may be a butterfly . Of course, those issues that are perceived as cumbersome, the ones we can't seem to find our way out of due to limiting thought patterns, become difficult to transmute... this I also know from experience, and to this day I still know this . No doubt, I'm still in the "ascension" process .

Oh yeah, this was when my head was bobbing up and down at its greatest for reading your post.

During the beginning of this year, from about Feb. on until about a month ago I found my environment was filled with a free range of potential energy. As well, during this time there were some of those astronomic/astrological events that seemed to come into play, at least the way I "saw" it they did. It was like energy workers had a window of opportunity to more efficiently transmute and refine their energy fields, and I was truly amazed at how a few transmutations were nearly effortlessly happening... "ask for and ye shall receive" was never more apparent to me. The singularly most profound synchronicity of my life occurred during this time. This really was a time of major growth for myself, and not only just consciously... I possessed more physical energy on an ongoing day to day basis than I had in years. I felt like a well tuned engine just'a humming along down the road. There were definitely at least two months during this period of very active consciousness raising where I was physically energized.

Then BLAM! One Sat. about a month ago, the weekend before the London bombings, I was humming along, joyful with my progress, amazed with how many of the puzzle pieces of my life were coming together, then right outta the wild blue beyond I felt my awareness bristle big time, this being a personal cue that somebody/something was breaching my energy field. "On gaurd", I thought. From there on it was downhill, I was exhausted for nearly three weeks, I would even say I was nearing a clinical definition of exhaustion. Among other problems, I felt and visually sensed something like a vacuum cleaner had been hooked up to my energy field and was sucking the life out of me.

I hadn't all of the sudden become "tired" for being in an active phase of consciousness raising/ascension, I think myself and others (I wasn't the only person having troubles at this time) were being intervened upon for being in an active consciousness raising mode. The window of opportunity had somehow shifted from an STO mode of opportunity to one of STS opportunism. The STS power mongers don't take kindly to one of "theirs" (as they seem to think we belong to them) pulling away from their frequency rate range, and they definitely don't take kindly to knowing a group of souls (say the "Wanderer" FRE) is gaining FRE refinement. While I may not like it, I can see why they'd do everything within their power to contain said FRE, we're a juicy bunch... we're all of that and a bag of chips, even if the bag of chips (FRE) is in energetic latency waiting to be expressed... just being "all that" is enough to alarm hyperdimensionals. This, I will write again, is why the attainment of knowledge (awareness of ourselves and our environment) is the very most important thing we can do for ourselves, as individuals and as part of a soul group/FRE. I know I'm responsible for the outcome that will be my future, whether density realm shifts are only metaphorical or a real probability. Whatever my next moment may be it'll be a product of my awareness.

And ya know what? I'd like to just take a moment here to be my ole sappy self  .

I want to express a heartfelt thank you to all of you who have chosen to walk the path of knowledge and energetic refinement, regardless of the near constant barrage of containment efforts by others... no matter if that "other" is a 4D STS hyperdimensional, the NWO... or our partners, or parents, or siblings, or those tweedle-brained neighbors who get on our last nerve. I've noticed on this board that we may get bummed or out of sorts with what we see happening around us in our immediate environment, and with some of those others we personally have to intermingle with just to survive (like employers), but it's my observation that this doesn't deter the mainstay of this group from working our way through all of it, and eventually moving forward. In fact, I consider that it is in its greatest part because of what we see around us in 3D Land that we're driven to scoot on outta here whether it's through 4D, 5D, or 6D.... heehee, I've yet to, in any capacity, converse with a fellow Wanderer or any other energy worker, or any other person for that matter, who has said, "Man-oh-man, I can't wait to come back here and do this again." Never, ever have I heard that one .

I don't think many of us very often hear "Thank you very much for your effort, where would the rest of us be without your awareness?"

So here's a big ole and a "Namaste" zoom-zoomin everybody's way, you/we deserve this loving and respectful gratitude among ourselves.

Personally, even through the difficult times and how it may sometimes not appear so, I think we're doing a helluva job with refinition! And if my intuition has been correct at times in the past two years, so do the STO "they"... well, maybe there was a time when they thought it was touch and go before then, but I have every indication that we're doing more touching-on than going-from an FRE density realm transition scenario/probability.

Peaciously,

Violette

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

Hi, i'm new here....What a great freakin' thread!! STS vs STO(a la casseiopaens) is nothing more than more propaganda posing as "THE Truth" in a different form, or a different flavor. Anything that promotes duality, and polar opposites is merely keeping the mind locked into Matrix-controlled thinking. now......How do we steer this thread to talk about the solution, namely SOVEREIGNTY?? Oh, btw, there ain't no rapture gonna happen, unless you call it what it may actually be. That is a mass-kidnapping tp populate another pre-selected slaveplanet perhaps! jimshoe/steven.

It is logical to me that polarity is a consequence of freewill. For every choice to move closer to the conscious aspect of the Creator, there is an opposite choice to move away. If you believe in the existence of freewill, then you must accept that there are dual currents of evolution, each a consequence of choices that lead toward opposite aspects of Creation, either being (consciousness) or anti-being (matter). Matter and consciousness are ultimately one, but none can deny their qualitative and functional difference.

Illusions are truths within illusions. Some dualities are more illusory than others depending on what level of the illusion they exist within. If you are at a level higher than where such a polarity exists, then naturally they are irrelevant and illusory to you, while those above you are still valid.

The matrix-controlled dichotomies such as religious right vs wrong, or liberal vs conservative, or patriot vs traitor -- these are clearly polarities worth transcending because we are aware enough to know they are illusions.

And yet we know from other dualities like night and day, liberty vs tyranny, and tomorrow vs yesterday that these have for us a functional validity that become defunct only when we transcend linear time and this mortal plane.

This shows that transcending lower levels of illusion is not enough to transcend all dualities - some dualities are more universal than others. The STS and STO dualities are pretty universal up to a certain level, but one thing for certain is that they are not equally as illusory as the more trivial dualities like democrat vs republican. To use the lower to reject the higher is to throw out what's still valid with what is already defunct.

Besides, if you have a proper understanding of what STS and STO means, you'll see they are not exactly the same as dark vs light, although sometimes those terms are used interchangeably. Sovereignty and non-duality is itself an essential part of STO existence, although the fact that STO understands all is one doesn't mean they deny that STS exists, just that it's an alternate path toward unity with Creation.

I'm beginning to understand the definitions of STS and STO, seeing it more as a choice of level of consciousness than polarization. My soul experienced being nasty STS types and attaining / regaining STO consciousness, giving it an access to Creator that STS doesn't have. These definitions are one way to define a level of consciousness outside duality. Maybe STS ascends to STO ascends to STA because it has experienced and acknowledged both sides of itself.

What does sovereignty mean to you, Jimshoe?

There will be some raptures. Not 3D bodies but some will shift form rapidly. Lots of scenarios can occur depending on your soul's choice ... rapid shift, long-term stay, leaving the planet, out of this form but back into this 3D. The rapture scenario has been sold, though, for the chi.

Oh ... I see it now. Gotcha.

As a creator of this universe I can tell you that this universe is a time-warp reality in which many of the "issues" of just about all creations were nudged. The problems we sought to solve are the many problems currently seen on this planet. Creation after creation evolved without fully understanding the shadow side.

I understand that my shadow side was initiated in my first separation from my twin. We are one consciousness that was split into the two principles of masculine and feminine. Literally suddenly, big bang and we were two ... self and other. It hurt. I remember it. The fear and pain resulting from that experience started my denied self. We lived in the light as a loving expression of lifeforce and didn't understand fear, pain, anger, so when these crept in I pushed them back because they were not me as I understood myself. They became a life of their own because I did not acknowledge them (asuras, devils, satans, chi suckers, meateaters, STS, whatever you want to call them), and they created realities of their own and sought to take down the reality I thought I was living.

Now I integrate both "sides" of the full me, STS and STO in the verbage of this discussion. Same consciousness, different perspectives. I do not feel that creation of shadow selves was initially a conscious intent of the god.dess consciousness of creator. Experiencing through freewill was the intent and exposure of the shadow (what wasn't in the light) was a result. The first earth (not this planetary body but the first planetary body in this "place" in creation) was a playground for god.dess. It got out of hand, and we've struggled with the problem and solution since. We created it even if unknowingly, so we need to "fix" it.

"No rescue from any other dimension." Very good. To get out of 3D we need to do it ourselves. If we don't complete in integrity and in 3D the issues we face we do not get to move up the ladder, so to speak. I disagree that there will be no raptures, though ... not as a rescue but as a result of personal integration.

Restrictions on comprehension are lifted when consciousness is integrated. Otherwise you spin in the same ol' same ol' limitations.