Topic: Can You Help Me Understand???

I have not posted on this board pretty much from the time that I joined it. However, I spend a great deal of time reading what others have posted. My past experiences on boards have been very negative, lead a path towards aggression and ultimately send me off shaking my head, so I have taken the “quietly reading”  approach. I love to read what has been posted, as often it leads me to greater research on fascinating topics. However, I honestly need some advice at this time, or if nothing else somewhat of an understanding.

Here, I will jump directly into my situation. I come from a very close family, and have three other sisters. In September my father died, and it was a tremendous loss to all of us. Our worlds centered around him. I have blamed the situation that I am about to describe on the fact that we can act strange when events like this occur in our lives. However, this situation has just taken a new level. It started when my oldest sister started acting like two different people long before dad died. The situation escalated following his death. I am talking sweet sister/evil sister stuff. Fine, we all have are moments, and I have continued to tell myself this. Her actions and reactions are pretty mind boggling, but me, the optimist continues to find excuses for them. However, something happened this weekend that has me a bit concerned. Following a phone call that was fun-filled and upbeat, I was enticed to come to her home. Upon my arrival immediately everything turned dark. She started using vulgar language and attacking every weak spot that she thinks that I have. What follows completely freaks me out!

Some other entity showed its face to me. Her face morphed, and I know the difference between someone in a rage and an entirely different entity. She has beautiful green eyes, and they were jet black. The entity looked like an old Italian woman, but also had a beauty that I can not describe. I am an artist, and it was something that I know that I can not depict. Her mouth was moving faster than anything that I have ever witnessed. My mind immediately moved into an analytical mode, as I observed this entity for approximately 10 minutes. She eventually morphed back into my sister, but continued to rage. I packed up my things to leave, and was picking up my shoes at the front door (One does not dare wear shoes in her museum home) and she shoved me out the door and threw my shoes out following me.

It honestly is clear to me now why she has been acting in such a strange manner. I ask myself why the entity would expose itself to me, and have determined that the spiritual side of me contradicts its mission. I have little fear, and when fear is brought into my presence, I try to react with love. However, I am lost. I have gone back and examined her behavior patterns, and think that I know when it entered her. She tells a story about being blind for approximately five minutes. She states that a dark line moved up her eyes and she was blind for about five minutes. She visited an eye doctor following the event, and he referred her to a specialist that she refuses to see.

I feel lost and need to talk about this with someone, so I come here. Lyra knows me from another board and can confirm that I’m pretty straight forward. I’m not into the “your crazy type conversations”  so please spare me!  I know what I have seen, I just don’t know what to do with it!

2 (edited by Auendove 2005-04-21 14:59:21)

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Lamm wrote:

Upon my arrival immediately everything turned dark.

This would be when your perception grew beyond the obvious and you were able to intuite a different more subtle realm.

Lamm wrote:

Some other entity showed its face to me. Her face morphed, and I know the difference between someone in a rage and an entirely different entity.

Lamm, I've also twice seen two different people take on totally different bodies. One was a channeller who's body fully changed into the opposite sex. The other was a Guatemaulan Shaman who changed from a 40 yoa Latin man into an extremely old, like ancient old, Chinese man.

Lamm, once someone even witnessed my own eyes changing from caucasian eyes to oriental eyes. I had a few weeks before integrated my spiritual Master Teacher, an Asian, and my friend was asking me if I could still feel him "in" me, and she was then quite excitedly telling me my eyes had just momentarily changed fully to oriental eyes... fairly definitive answer to her question wouldn't you say cool ?

Lamm wrote:

It honestly is clear to me now why she has been acting in such a strange manner. I ask myself why the entity would expose itself to me, and have determined that the spiritual side of me contradicts its mission. I have little fear, and when fear is brought into my presence, I try to react with love.

'Contradicting its mission' hits the nail on the head for me too. That you write of your lack of fear and the effort to love even grounds this theory in deeper. I think your sister's attachment was testing you, to see whether or not your as much of a "tough guy" as she knows you think you are. Psychic attachments don't want to be bothered with "loved ones" mucking up their dark negative energy space with Light energy.

And Lamm, I wouldn't count on the true face of that attachment to, in all it's true essence, be as beautiful as it many like you to think it is. Any entity that could cause your sister to do a complete 180 in personality, especially a change to such rage, is not at any level "attractive".

Lamm wrote:

She tells a story about being blind for approximately five minutes. She states that a dark line moved up her eyes and she was blind for about five minutes.

Sounds like a text-book psychic/spirit attachment scenario to me.

First of all, I admire your bravery, and even though it's harder than hell to see this happening to your sister, and indeed freakier than all get out, at least you now know that her personality change is not necessarily her own, you know that she's being manipulated by a force stronger than she at the present time.

Lamm wrote:

I feel lost and need to talk about this with someone, so I come here.

While I really, really hope others experienced in the area of exorcisms/spirit releases offer suggestions and insights as well, I would like to start to help by asking you what it is that YOU would like to do about the situation? Is your sister even approachable with this type of information about herself?

I'm going to stop there for the time being, just those two questions alone are crucial to first address.

Lamm, if you are a praying woman you're going to want to put your hands together for this one on your sister's behalf.

I'm sorry for your families difficulties, and for the grief and worry you are feeling... anyway I am able to help, I will smile .

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

3 (edited by lyra 2005-04-21 14:33:00)

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Auendove wrote:

Lamm, if you are a praying man you're going to want to put your hands together for this one on your sister's behalf.

Lamm is a woman.  wink

btw....Hi Lamm....it's nice to see you back.  smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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4 (edited by Auendove 2005-04-21 14:58:59)

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lyra wrote:

Lamm is a woman.

Ooops! Sorry Ms. Lamm wink , I'm correcting my gender mistake right away!

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

5 (edited by wandering1 2005-04-21 15:47:04)

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Lamm,
Thank you for sharing your story.  It sounds like your sister has another entity living inside of her.  Such entities can be released.  If your sister is interested she could see a shaman. 

I've been impressed with some shamans that I have met in Ecuador and Peru.  However, those countries are obviously far away from the US.  There are shamans in the US as well.

If you and your sister looked for a shaman for a healing, I bet that you could find one.

I think that it is helpful if your sister was able to recognize the issue and then decided that she wanted to do something about it.

A common statement that I have heard is that such entities became attached for a reason.  Perhaps there was a lesson to learn.  If the lesson has been learned, then maybe there is no longer a need for the attached entity.

Maybe a self healing is possible without outside help.  However, I think that an outside person who has expertise can be helpful.

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Dear Lamm,

My heart aches for your situation as I've known that feeling.  I can't add much to what the others have said as it seem their perceptions may be true.  All I can offer are some words to help comfort you and give you strength.  We need not reach out to tear down that which is evil because nothing which is contrary to God's laws can endure. All not-good things in the world are transient, containing within themselves the seeds of their own destruction. 

Since I'm late with this post, I hope by now all is resolved.
Much Love to you.

Enlightenment happens!  Attachment to the ego-self leads one into delusion; but faith in one's Buddha nature leads one to enlightenment.

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Thank you all for the tremendous feedback. Auendove, you leave me a couple of very good questions to ponder. The ability to simply release this information and have a logical conversation about it brings me such peace. It is a strange world that we live in, and this is my first experience with something of this nature. I would like to approach my sister about it, but I am going to have to spend time reflecting on the manner in which I would do it. She has always been extremely closed to spiritual conversations. Auendove, you state, “Sounds like a text-book psychic/spirit attachment scenario to me.”  I do think that it may be useful for me to do some reading in this area prior to saying anything to her. It is interesting simply reading that others have experienced this, so thank you for sharing. Witnessing this is such a strange experience. It leaves you saying, “I know what I just saw, but what did I just see?” 
Anyway, thank you for the feedback. It is appreciated more than you will ever know!
Lamm

Re: Can You Help Me Understand???

Lamm wrote:

Auendove, you state, “Sounds like a text-book psychic/spirit attachment scenario to me.…  I do think that it may be useful for me to do some reading in this area prior to saying anything to her.

Edith Fiore's "The Unquiet Dead" would be a good place to start. This is the only book I've fully read on the subject matter.

When I mentioned "text book" it was because this is old ground for me, from experience. I've seen a number of spirit releases performed, as a healer I've certainly dealt with negative "critters" hanging out in a client's body and energy field, and one of them wasn't such a little critter... I definitely needed my "Cling On Be Gone" hair spray for that one wink !

In other words, your description of your sister's affect was "text book" because it reads like a typical psychic/spirit attachment. As well though, I have a sneaking suspicion, or it is a possibility, that your sister's Shadow Self is integrating.

Here are some other titles listed by Amazon resulting from the key words search "Spirit Attachments"--

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc … 75-7179102

One author listed there is William J. Baldwin, he's done a lot of work in the field of spirit attachments and releases, although I see from googling his name that he passed on a year ago today. His wife, Judith still continues working in the field. Their web page might be something else for you to look over.

http://www.spiritreleasement.org/chr/baldwins.html

Lamm wrote:

It is interesting simply reading that others have experienced this, so thank you for sharing. Witnessing this is such a strange experience. It leaves you saying, “I know what I just saw, but what did I just see?…

You are welcome, any way I may further assist please feel free to, of course, ask here, or contact me privately via email.

And Lamm, the first few times it happens altered perception redefines "strange experiences", it's just soooo whacked. After the first few initial shocks it becomes metapsychic... aka: normal smile .

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Hey Auendove and Lamm-

Strange, when I read Lamm's post I also thought Lamm was a man.....
Lamm, maybe your last incarnation was male?

Also, while I was reading this I got a bit freaked out because as I read about the posession this voice came from the street outside, a strange old voice yelling, "Get OUTTA here!"

I'm sorry I don't have any techniques for help.....I have not dealt with this situation, only dealt with non-physical entities visiting me or else living people visiting me or haunting me out-of-body. 

Most of what I've experienced and heard echoes the "meet it with love" and "release fear" approach.  Also, to be resolute and firm and hold your ground as much as possible.  When they are spirits visiting (i.e. no longer physical humans) then it can help to talk to them....

Please keep us informed on your progress if you feel comfortable...

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Hi Lamm,

Thanks for sharing your story with us. These cases are quite common, and it's always great when someone can come forward and get the dialogue going about this.

You may want to take a look at the writings of Dr. Shakuntala Modi.  Modi is a psychiatrist and author of two wonderful books, Remarkable Healings and Memories of God and Creation (Hampton Roads.) I highly recommend Remarkable Healings to anyone who is interested in learning how to keep their auric field clear, reclaim lost energy due to soul fragmentation (or "soul loss"), and improve their physical and emotional health. Remarkable Healings is simply the most ground-breaking and helpful book I have EVER read in the metaphysical genre, and you'll find it amazing, too.

I'm including a link below to an interview with Dr. Modi where she talks about her work. Basically, through working with hypnosis on her patients, she stumbled across information she hadn't expected to find. People described various entity attachments ranging from the human (discarnate entities, often loved ones!) to the demonic (negative beings who are opposite from angels in vibration and seek to drag a person down, spiritually.) The accumulation of these energies in a person's body and energy field proved to be the sole source of their ailments, both on the physical and the emotional level.

The implications of this work are astonishing. The auric egg or energy envelope surrounding the body can be penetrated by these various entities, if a person's psychic "immunity" isn't strong enough. And this is the number one cause of ailments of every kind - including many conditions modern medicine has never been able to cure, like depression and chronic fatigue. These are usually the by-product of parasitic entity attachments, and, once they are removed, the person's well-being is restored.

Dr. Modi gradually discovered some simple forms of invocation which can clear out these entities and attachments and relieve many physical and emotional ailments in the process. She works with a person's angelic helpers and spiritual guides and, of course, the power of God/Goddess/Great Spirit/The Great Kahuna. smile

Many times, people are so saturated with attachments that what they think of as their "core personality" isn't even their own! It's more of an overlay of all of these entities. I've also used an adapted form of her techniques on myself and loved ones, to great effect. For instance, I used to be the type of person who would catch a cold or the flu at the drop of a hat. I haven't been sick in three years now, with anything. So learning how to maintain a clear auric field by starting with some of what Dr. Modi teaches set me on the path to this level of well-being.

Through diligent self-clearing work (which you can learn how to do with this book,) you'll experience many amazing changes on a physical and emotional level. The more comfortable you are with invoking and working with the angels for healing, the more readily you can incorporate what she teaches in the book.

Here is Modi's intriguing interview:

http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue18/1 … irits.html

The nice thing about Remarkable Healings is that you can apply what she has discovered very easily through your own prayer work, and it's not hard to do.  So check it out if you have time. Also, the other books prior posters recommend are good, too.

Best,
LipstickMystic

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I want to write and extend a HUGE THANK YOU to everyone for the advice and reading references. I have been so busy that I haven’t had time to read anything yet, but I am off and reading as soon as I post this. You guys are the best! Thanks again, Lamm

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Hello! I am wondering at 'what age' spirit attachments happen? Is a 3 yr. old too young for an attachment of any kind? Just curious here. I have a niece who is 28 and has a her 3 yr. old (one of twins) who displays some odd behaviors at times, for example: the other day we were sitting on the couch and she was purposely jumping on me, after I had asked her not to. So I set her on the floor and she stared at me for a few minutes with this evil, mean look on her face, she didn't budge either. I just stared back at her. She does display 'devilish' behaviors, but I just chalk them up to her age. It doesn't help that her mother is quite evil at times (well most of the time actually). Not sure if it's her upbringing or she has spirit attachments herself. So that's why I was wondering at what age someone can be attached?

~JOYce~

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globug-...."I was wondering at what age someone can be attached?."...........at exactly that age/3years....thats prime time.....the ultimate suggestion would be to teach her to not give her power away at that age....try playing a game with her and act as a mirror in the game until your/the message clicks for her.....maybe get her back in tune with the sensations that arise in the solar plexus region of self....if her power is already relinquished then play the forgiveness game with her this time acting as a mirror as well....throw in the character who is the real life entity 'so to speak' and try to get some forgiveness sent out in that direction.....etherically speaking we release biophotons to others when our power is taken....they get abused for whatever reason and we hold onto the anger instead of getting on with the forgiving process which would in effect return our power.....once we forgive the person in our heart of hearts, no faking it, we get our biophotons returned for the better.....all that entity based shape shifting will cease.....the other person mysteriously goes into a subtely mild, severe depression, or worse.....the game goes on i guess....its our 3d nature.....its great your catching all of this now....i wish someone caught it for me......the destructiveness of the process you have identified and are altering usually carries on and into adulthood.....why do all of us somewhere along the way projectory like complain about our loved ones, work, weather, life, and anything else we can come up with.....since we have given our power away....through choosing to, allowing to, or having it be strong armed from us as infants....its all the same.....loss of power and the way to sort out this individual and collective mess is always the same as well.....journey back to childhood and genuinley forgive the big four, mother/father/brother/sister.....the rest is all light show if you ask me.....someday they will teach this stuff to the young and it will breed into our civilization through the strength of an entire generation....that will be a great day.....one you,i, and the rest may have to pass on due to time.....until then we just do what we can and what you are doing for the child by calling attention to this early on is inspiring and admirable....maybe she'll get the remedy and teach it to other 3 year olds.....who knows.....hope some ideas above helped your process....take it easy

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Thankyou Ihs for your ideas, I will definitely work with these.

~JOYce~