The irresponsible people: the matrix fashion (Page 1 of 2)

Racsouran, some use knowledge as a source of excuses. Others use knowledge as a means of solving their problems. In regards to the so-called "Matrix Control System", this concept is a potential form of knowledge and nothing more. You may see some people using this concept as a source of excuses, but it would be in error to say the concept is only good for excuses since I know there are many people whose awareness of the Matrix helps them solve certain problems.

For example, my awareness that the moon exerts influences upon the negative emotions of vulnerable people helps me be more cautious of my own reactions and that of others, especially here on the forum, during certain times of the month. This has limited damage that otherwise would have been severe. I don't say "Oh no, here comes the moon again, there's nothing I can do and if I kick people off for no reason it's not my fault." No, rather I say, "Alright, so our emotions may be off and the looneys will be on the loose, so let's be more cautious and watchful and turn the moon energies around into something positive."

Also, let's not forget what came first. The movie "The Matrix" came after thousands of years of esoteric knowledge about that very same concept, knowledge preserved over time through the various esoteric and mystical traditions and showing up in the west today within hermeticism, gnosticism, sufism, alchemy, shamanism, and later as fourth way, theosophy, and anthroposophy. The only thing the movie really did was put the basic concepts in metaphorical form and provide a language that modern people can use to discuss these concepts.  Before the movies, the Matrix went by other names.

But, I have seen examples of what you talk about, the people who would rather blame than take responsibility. And many of our problems do come from our erroneous belief. Nevertheless, although we are responsible for how situations turn out, we are not always responsible for how they begin. Other beings have freewill, they can do what they want to us if we don't intend otherwise. That means some things are not a product of our beliefs but rather the product of other beings' choices. But how the situation turns out does depend on us, and that's where I agree with you about the need for responsibility and the proper wielding of personal power.

Oh, this is fabulous!!

Thank you so much, Rascouran, for joining this forum.  I loved your question of Montalk about his direct alien experiences. 

How amazing!!

All the possibilities.

Are we going mad ourselves, or is it really the world?  Perhaps the world is already mad and has been for a long time.  Maybe we are just asking the question.

Wow, thank u all very much for your feedback, i don´t expected so much in so little time. I have to say that i wrote this post in one of my human moments of debility, raged by anger. I hoped it served to someone.

About mooncycles: i never imagined that cylces where related to a matrix mental system, but to wilderness simply, a beatiful wilderness that could affect us, like all our surroundings, not?, i do not disagree with those phenomenon.

Maybe the cause of this all is seeing people like all of you, that knows exactly how to conduce their destinys. I do not have that luck, but this is only my imagination, sure. With the potential to do something different, i only see the whole same all around. We give publicity to the things who don´t deserve it. Well, i think it is "good" being aware of "the truth", but i cannot stop writing all this issues without thinkin they are all alive because we give our life to them.

Well, election is the important thing, election that all kind of people have, doesn´t matter they are aware or not on how capitalistic sytem works or not; its absolutely irrelevant, the individual have the LAST WORD, and the ALWAYS choose the thing more pleasant to him or hem, be it a part of a matrix, or not.

People are NOT stupid and we the "supposed intellectuals" and wiser people about this issues are not in an advantage. The power is always here. A-Dimensional.

I think the point was that, no matter if the Matrix existed or not, we ultimately decide its influence on us.  Seems a good trick, to present the problem to us and have us all be so consumed by it.  But, I agree, it all comes down to a personal path.  I see no point in a true strive for existence if we are not ultimately integral and central to the process.

The astonishing thing to me it´s that this so called "matrix" or capitalism, is based on every individual free will, in his use, not in his substraction. It cannot exist whithout that. Well, a lot of people spends his or her time thinking they haven´t free will to choose. They have free will to think that; but also, anything else. It´s paradoxical.

Racsouran.  It seems to me that you are equating "The Matrix" with Capitalism.  That is not what people here are saying.

"The Matrix" is the term used to describe the mental prison in which people trap themselves.  "The Matrix" is all the combined factors that causes humanity to believe we have no freewill.  "The Matrix" simply put - is a prison for our minds.

It is that which causes us to believe we have no freedom.  "The Matrix" requires us to consciously use our free will and choices to activily live under it.

On a certain level (and outside factors) "The Matrix" is our own creation, and requires our participation to continue existing.

In the end; every human on this earth is responsible for the continuation of this system.  It does not elivate our responcibity, instead it hightens are responsibility and makes it even more vital.

Maybe it needs to be said again.  "The Matrix" is the exact samething you are describing here

What you describe there is what others call "The Matrix".  Personally I feel the term is over used here - heck I use it a lot myself.  But then it is merely a label.  Trick is not to get distracted by labels.

Any and all "isms" can be and are used to promulgate and enforce the "prison for our mind." There is the overarching delusion that starts the moment we are born, and which seems impossible to get out of. Yet since the dawn of mankind there have been spiritual paths aimed at getting out of this, and they work for the individual. Only the individual can make the choices to want to even begin to get out. It is the innate memory of who we truly are, outside of and beyond this illusion, which sparks the journey to this end of "escape"--escape from something which, though not real, appears to be real to anyone born, even the arrogant who think a mere glimpse beyond it equals overcoming it.

After that, or nested within that, so to speak, are subsets within subsets
of the "grand illusion" which serve to distract, to concretize control, and to give the human "something to do."

Any one who really can get out will go beyond all "isms" , yet be able to manifest the desired outcomes of those "isms" without himself becoming submerged in them. For good or ill.

Capitalism/ anti-Capitalism, Communism/ anti-communism, and so forth,
are bundled and interlinked problems, reactions, and solutions which are themselves a part of the Matrix. Essentially, they are superfluous dinosaurs of decadent solidity.
Some of the "good ideas" within the isms, however, are worthwhile and in fact vital, and are to be discovered to have been with us as possibities all along, ever-availabe, if once seen. But our task is to realize these
positive outcomes in a manner aligned with Higher Forces, as opposed to grasping at pre-formed political or philosophical systems, or their antidotes. These are important steps, that is, they allow us to discard the tendency, oh so very human, to get wrapped up in these mental environments, the wars for our minds, going on around us constantly.

It only seems like an impossible task. One second, impossible, the next second, with the right combination, the lock is sprung and you realize you are free. When you are free, you free others, and thus the ideal of "all for one and one for all" is reached without compromising individual integrity.