Topic: Odd pattern of light on my ceiling

This night I had a strange dream. It started with there being a very large red ant on the student's flat I live in. In the waking world one of our cats caught a mouse just before I went to bed, and this ant was about as big as a mouse and roughly had the same curving as the dead mouse, so I think the ant and mouse were linked. Anyway, in the dreamworld me and some flatmates that were apparently in the kitchen too, decided this ant had to be caught. At first we caught it in a bag and sealed it airtight. Then suddenly however some flatmates left and the remaining two (me and someone else) suddenly decided the ant now had to be put in some sort of small can. I then shook the can to kill the ant. Suddenly it was my flatmate not me who was shaking the ant. He tought it was dead, I was still not sure, and when he wanted to look, the ant escaped.

We then pursued it through the kitchen and he stepped on it, which became very bloody (red blood, which I believe ants don't have), but the ant was still not dead. Strong force (not clear what exactly it was) was used against the ant again a few times (by then it was on the couch, it didn't climb up there though, it just was there suddenly). The strong force severed several large body parts, but the front part and back part were still moving and trying to get to eachother. This was when the ant started kind of morphing into our other cat (the one that did not catch the mouse), and we did not try to kill it anymore. The body parts of the ant still remained on the couch though and the cat was jumping around on the couch (in a non-cat manner, more like a mad cow manner).

This was about when I woke up and I saw strange patterns of light on my ceiling. I am quite certain this part was no dream anymore. Directly after, I checked digital clocks and entered a log into my computer, the log was still there when I woke up again hours later. The lights looked at how a lasershow could look when projected into your room, but the nearness to my window and the way my luxaflex is aligned and the fact that a board of wood covers the upper part of the window, would make that impossible. The lights danced around a bit like would sunlight reflected by a pool of water. They were aligned somewhat in a grid-fashion and were thin green lines (a soft kind of green). Sometimes it also looked a bit like a board of electronics would look with its copper tracks. I looked at it for perhaps 5 seconds (probably seemed like 30, hard to guess at such times) and was considering getting my glasses. The lines of light seemed strangely sharp, and considering that without my glasses I cannot see sharp beyond 10 centimeters, this is odd. Once I had my glasses on however, the lights started to fade. It was actually only then, not earlier, that I recognised somewhat of an electronics-patten in it, instead of just a grid of perpendicular thin green lines. Not long after the pattern was gone entirely. I looked around at other places in my room if it went there, but the room was normal now. I also tried to look outside to see if someone was playing with a laserpointer or projector, but then realised it could never have reached my ceiling through my luxaflex.

I then got out of bed, tried to find my pencil but realised I had let it along with my other D&D stuff in the living room. I then somewhat reluctantly decided to use one of my computers (which are on at night), fearing however that it could magically crash this night making my text disappear, leaving me to wonder wether the lights were a dream too. It did not crash however. In this log I recorded a time of 6:34 CEST (4:34 UTC) that this happened. I got out of bed a few times to add more parts to the log, until about 6:44. The last-modified time of the file matches the time I remembered and wrote down. When I went to bed again, I later came near to a lucid dream (I realised I was dreaming, then was afraid I would wake up soon and then believed that I was still in my pre-sleep slumber mode and was not really dreaming, so I did not try to become lucid). Maybe I was in my pre-sleep slumber, or maybe it only seemed like that.

I did do something different before going to bed though, and this was thinking strongly of a Norse rune and deity (Berkano and Idunna). Someone has recently introduced me to these subjects and I am looking into it a bit. It could be somehow related to the lights I saw. Considering that the lights seemed sharp without my glasses, it could be a physical and visual artifact too, but I don't fully believe it was just an error in my eyeball or neurons.

I did think about the fact that reality is an illusion, and that the grid I saw could be a temporary hole in the illusion (revealing a computer-ish system behind the illusion). I now realise I should have jumped up and put my hand on the grid, but somehow you don't realise these things 5 seconds after waking up. Anyway, has anyone ever experienced something similar? Could the lights have been related to the rune and deity I thought about before sleeping, is it abduction-related, was it a hole in the illusion, or something else?

Re: Odd pattern of light on my ceiling

What is strange is how the lights you saw upon waking appear to be totally unrelated to the dream you were having.  I have experienced this myself a number of times (not with seeing lights, but a giant teddie bear of all things)...again seeing something upon waking totally unrelated to the dream.

Part of me says that the mind can cause of sorts of visual illusions when coming out of dream state.  But another part of me feels that the unrelated nature of these "visions" implys outside sources or interferance.

I can't really say what it was you experienced.  But I think that it is often vital to not place too much attention on the cause, rather just try and focus on whether you felt it to be a positive, negative or neutral experience.  That in itself will give you some basic form of idea as to what it may have been...

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If the ant represented a grey, it is interesting that I and my flatmate were trying to destroy it, quite succesfully, until it the shifted into one of our pets (which we would never harm; so if the ant were a grey, this would be a form of self-defence on the grey's side). The cat jumped around as if insane or injured.

Furthermore, I did not feel frightened during the experience, nor did I feel a strong sense of positive or negative. Basically my reaction to it was neutral, but I did consider it odd, and also did become somewhat more vigilant.

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Hey y'all... what the heck is up with the ants? FCOL!

Aprogas wrote:

They were aligned somewhat in a grid-fashion and were thin green lines.....

Considering that the lights seemed sharp without my glasses,...

Given that you've said you can't see with any quality beyond 10 centimeters in front of you face I find this absolutely fascinating.

Aprogas wrote:

... it could be a physical and visual artifact too, but I don't fully believe it was just an error in my eyeball or neurons.

Naw, I don't think it has a single thing to do with an error in your eye physiology.

Aprogas wrote:

I did think about the fact that reality is an illusion, and that the grid I saw could be a temporary hole in the illusion (revealing a computer-ish system behind the illusion).

Do you mean like alter-dimensional/density, bleedthrough?

It could've been the residuals of the "doorway" you traveled through to have that wild dream interaction. That you saw it clearly without your glasses leads me to believe this even further, especially that it may've been alter-density bleedthrough in particular.

Now, this grid/board of electronics quality that you write about I also find fascinating. I don't know, but I'm getting a strong intuitive hit that you seeing the doorway "versioned" this way is not actually the true appearance of the cross density aperature. Either it's how your consciousness filters/screens the idea of dimensional/density doorways...  or, in other words, how you, and others for that matter, are "programmed" to perceive such doorways. I add that last notation because we've been talking about computer and programming symbology/meme on several different threads on NR. There's an interesting timeliness about your post, ant and all!

I'm no expert on alter-density bleedthrough, but I have indeed experienced it, albeit though not interrelated with sleep and dreams. I was wide awake and walking around when I had my experiences... I saw none of this gridwork, no electronics like appearance.

Aprogas wrote:

I did do something different before going to bed though, and this was thinking strongly of a Norse rune and deity (Berkano and Idunna). Someone has recently introduced me to these subjects and I am looking into it a bit. It could be somehow related to the lights I saw.

I'm not at all familiar with what you're writing about here, could you offer a brief explanation, or web page, about Berkano and Idunna and their roles as dieties, and include how you feel they may be related to the lights?

As well, what is a luxaflex? It sounds cushy smile .

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

5 (edited by Aprogas 2005-04-06 10:29:23)

Re: Odd pattern of light on my ceiling

Berkano is one of the runes of the Norse/Germanic "alphabet" (which does not start with a(lpha)-b(eta), so it is usually instead called futhark, after the first six characters (th being one character)). Idunna (or Idun, Ithunn, etc.) is a Norse goddess who took care of the apples by which the gods stayed young and thus in general she represents regeneration and rebirth. She is not really related to my dream or the lights on my ceiling, but it was something that I thought was worth noting because it could be related.

Some links about Norse/Germanic runes:
http://tarahill.com/runes/runemean.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~jordsvin/Run … /Index.htm

I thought luxaflex would be an international word (being a brandname, like hansaplast, kleenex or walkman). It are horizontal lamellae covering the window instead of curtains (they can be combined, I only have luxaflex though). It's not very cushy, being metal and thin it's actually pretty sharp at it's edges. The lines on my ceiling could in no way be generated by light coming through the luxaflex because the piece of wood covers the luxaflex too and the distance between the lines on the ceiling was very different from the distance between the metal sheets of my luxaflex, not to mention the perpendicular lines.
http://www.waveco.nl/luxaflex.jpg

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A picture is worth a thousand words Aprogas wink !

We call those window treatments, by one brand name available in the US, "Levelors".  A more generic name for them here in the States is "blinds". In other words, if I was to ask my mate to open the "luxaflex", I would say, "Would you please open the blinds?"... in this context the namebrand is most rarely ever used.

Thanks for the other info as well, I'll check out the links later this evening.

Aprogas wrote:

The lines on my ceiling could in no way be generated by light coming through the luxaflex because the piece of wood covers the luxaflex too and the distance between the lines on the ceiling was very different from the distance between the metal sheets of my luxaflex, not to mention the perpendicular lines.

This sounds like how I react to paranormal, or metapsychic interactions. I propose every type of "normal" explanation for the woo-woo, and do so methodically, until I'm satisfied I know what I knew in the first place--something happened that is not of this world.

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
------
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

Re: Odd pattern of light on my ceiling

The last couple of nights I've noticed a small area  of strange red light, sort of like glowing embers, in the foil of the open light fixture over my bed.