Topic: Sun to darken on day of Pope's funeral

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Interesting solar event for Friday....food for Catholic thinking?

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s … 0405184305


Boost for superstitious: Sun to darken on day of pope's funeral

PARIS (AFP) - Those who say eclipses herald history-shaping events will find support for their superstition when, on Friday, the Sun will be briefly plunged into darkness on the day of Pope John Paul II's funeral.



Astronomers, though, say the eclipse, while of a rare and intriguing type, was calculated long ago and is simply part of a ballet in celestial physics between the Sun, Earth and Moon.


It will be visible on Friday along an arc ranging from the southwestern Pacific to South America, at a time it will already be night in Rome.


The event will be a rare type called a "hybrid eclipse," expert Fred Espenak says on his website (http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov).


Along the central part of its path, some sections will have a total eclipse, in which the Moon will completely obscure the Sun.


On other sections of the track, though, it will be an annular eclipse -- the Moon will appear to have a brilliant, blazing ring around it.


Total eclipses occur when the Moon comes between the Earth and the Sun, completely obscuring the solar disk for a few minutes and illuminating the landscape in an eerie, sepulchral light. The eclipse follows a West-to-East track that lasts several hours until the alignment ends.


Hybrid eclipses occur because of the curvature of the Earth, says Espenak.


Sometimes the Moon's shadow touches the Earth's surface, while at others it falls just short, thus providing the "ring" effect.


Friday's event will lasting three hours and 24 minutes, according to Espenak's calculations.


It begins at 1854 GMT southeast of New Zealand, then races eastwards on a line north of the Galapagos Islands, Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia and finally Venezuela, where there will be a 33-second annular eclipse at sunset at 2218.


People living in New Zealand and to the north and south of this central line, including most of the southern United States, will see a partial eclipse -- the Sun will appear to have had a "bite" taken out of it.


Total eclipses have often seen as the harbingers of great events, from droughts and floods to failed harvests and the downfall of kings.


In ancient China, the belief was that an eclipse was caused when the gods dispatched a dragon to eat the Sun. The monster then had to be chased away with dances, incantations, the clashing of cymbals and gongs, and the unleashing of arrows and fireworks.


Even the word "eclipse" comes from a Greek word, "ekleipsis", which means to fail or be abandoned.


"The Sun has perished out of heaven and an evil mist hovers over all," was Homer's horrified account of an eclipse in The Odyssey.


Two eclipses occurred near Palestine in AD29 and AD33 -- events that, for some Christians, give astronomical proof to the biblical account that the sky darkened at Jesus' death on the cross.

   
Total solar eclipses happen about once every 18 months or so, although two partial or annular eclipses occur somewhere on Earth each year. The next hybrid eclipse will take place on April 20 2023, says Espenak.

Anyone viewing an eclipse should always wear proper eye protection, using filters against ultraviolet rays that can damage the retina.

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Re: Sun to darken on day of Pope's funeral

In with an eclipse. Out with an eclipse.

'From the toil of the Sun,'  indeed.


Rick potsed this at the Branton Group:



When the cardinals of the world pick John Paul II's successor, they
may well be choosing the next-to-last pope.

The pope who then follows this choice in the Chair of St. Peter will
be the last pope, and after his reign Rome will be destroyed.

Such has been the prophecy of St. Malachy, an Irish bishop who at
his death in 1148 A.D. was discovered to have left behind a
prophetic list of all future popes beginning with Pope Celestine II,
whose papacy began in 1143 A.D.

Malachy included a single line in Latin identifying a characteristic
of each pope.

Historians say Malachy's prediction – wherein he listed just 112
popes – has been amazingly accurate.

According to his list, there are just two more popes after the late
John Paul II.

Here are the seven last popes as identified from St. Malachy's list:

106. Pius XII 1939 - 1958
Eugenio Pacelli
Pastor Angelicus
Translated: An Angelic Shepherd

107. John XXIII 1958 - 1963
Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli
Pastor Et Natua
Translated: Pastor and Mariner

108. Paul VI 1963 - 1978
Giovanni Battista Montini
Flos Florum
Translated: Flower of Flowers

109. John Paul I 1978 - 1978
Albino Luciani
De Medietate Lunae
Translated: Of the Half Moon

110. John Paul II 1978 - 2005
Karol Jozef Wojtyla
De Labore Solis
Translated: From the Toil of the Sun

111. The next pope
"Gloria Olivae"
Translated: The Glory of the Olive

112. The last pope!
"Petrus Romanus"
Translated: Peter the Roman

Wrote St. Malachy of the last pope: "In extreme persecution, the
seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman,
who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of
which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable
Judge will judge the people. The End."

According to his biographer St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in his
book "Life of Saint Malachy," the saint was known to have the gift
of prophesy and had even predicted the exact day and hour of his own
death. Saint Malachy was canonized in 1190 by Pope Clement III.

While in Rome in 1139, Saint Malachy is said to have gone into a
trance and received a vision in which he foresaw all the popes from
the death of Innocent II until the end of time.

Afterward he wrote a few words about each pope and gave the
manuscript to Pope Innocent II, who is said to have deposited it in
Vatican Archives, where it lay forgotten until it was discovered in
1590 and published. At the time, some questioned its authenticity
and it has been the subject of debate ever since.

The manuscript contains 112 prophecies, which scholars have matched
with each of the 110 popes and anti-popes since Innocent II .

Here are the prophecies for the most recent popes:

Paul VI. The words of the 108th prophecy are "Flos Florum" (Flower
of Flowers). The 108th pope after Innocent II was Paul VI (1963-78).
His coat of arms included three fleurs-de-lis (iris blossoms).

John Paul I. The 109th is "De Medietate Lunae" (Of the Half Moon).
The corresponding pope was John Paul I (1978-78), who was born in
the diocese of Belluno (beautiful moon) and was baptized Albino
Luciani (white light). He became pope on August 26, 1978, when the
moon appeared exactly half full. It was in its waning phase. He died
the following month, soon after an eclipse of the moon.

John Paul II. The 110th is "De Labore Solis" (Of the Solar Eclipse,
or From the Toil of the Sun). The corresponding pope was John Paul
II (1978-2005). John Paul II was born on May 8, 1920 during an
eclipse of the sun. Like the sun, he came out of the East (Poland).
Like the sun, he visited countries all around the globe.
Today the final two prophecies are yet to be fulfilled:

The 111th prophecy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The
meaning of the olive is unclear. The Order of Saint Benedict – not
St. Malachy – has claimed that this pope will come from its ranks
and Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the
world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead
the Catholic Church in its final fight against evil.

The 112th prophecy says, "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman
Church there will reign Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman), who will
feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled
city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people.

Re: Sun to darken on day of Pope's funeral

Just think about that for a moment, in terms of the logistics of it.


These guys just ain't whistling dixie.

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Re: Sun to darken on day of Pope's funeral

What's interesting is I kept seeing all this hullaballoo over the Charles / Camilla wedding, but paid it no mind.  Didn't click on any of the stories 'cause frankly I don't care.   But finally today I saw this story talking about how the wedding was postponed due to the Pope's funeral, and because I'd already read this thread.........I clicked on the link thinking, "No, don't even tell me they were going to originally have the wedding on Friday........I bet they were, and it's because of the Eclipse........"  As many know, the Royals are absolutely OBSESSED with astrology, (note that Prince William's b-day is June 21st - summer solstice - that wasn't an accident.)    Sure enough....the original intended wedding date was for Friday.   The Eclipse day.   

I find it amazing though the "coincidental" timing of this eclipse and the funeral.  Yet one more ritualistic aspect to a religion absolutely soaked in it......

ps edit -  Thanks for posting the Malachy info., tiospaye.   What's weird is that for the past two days I've been getting 1111 and 111....the next Pope is #111......weird.....!  ("dear god, what does it mean!!!!! ahhhhhh!!!!!!!"  haha)

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Re: Sun to darken on day of Pope's funeral

It's funny how that news articles phrases the story.  It makes the issue about the chances of having an eclipse on the day of the Popes funneral.  And that ecplises are often associated as portents.  It turns the whole issue upside down.  "Hey, an ecplise occured on the same day as the funneral."

Of course it doesn't actually question why they chose that specific day.

Re: Sun to darken on day of Pope's funeral

they are just trying to optimize their stronghold's influence

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'