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Wow....a post that manages to combine Britney Spears, pussy, cheetos, masterbation, J Lo., the Third Reich, the whore of Babylon and Wal Mart, all in one post!   Go thoughtcrime, go!   

On a more serious note, I know what you're talking about, I hear your frustration, but I seriously don't know if anything can even be done at this point to drag people out of the stupor.   I'm at a new job now with exposure to lots of people, from all walks of life, and all I can say is MAN ALIVE is everybody hypnotized.  It's actually gotten WORSE than when I first started complaining about it myself.   It is WORSE.   People are shuffling about in a sedated, listless state.   The ones who aren't aren't any better...they're not going to listen.  I was in the lunchroom eating by myself.......with the TV off, which I didn't even notice because to me, that's perfectly natural, being that I don't own a TV., when in comes the manager of another department, this guy who actually is pretty quick and sharp, on the ball and all, not listless and sedated, and the FIRST thing he exclaims is, "You don't have the TV on?!?!   How could you sit there without the TV on!!???!!?"......actually ALARMED at this.  He immediately rushes over and puts it on, with CNN crankin' at full volume.   When I tried to broach the subject of No TV, he just kept shooting me down.   Would NOT listen.   Was very quick, arrogant and full of himself.   

After that, I don't converse with him any more than I have to.   Not even going to bother.

Can they be saved?   Probably not.   Another poster named Vuyiswa had some good advise once regarding something relating to this:   Basically it was, Don't worry about them.  Work on yourself.   That's all you can do.   Make the world better by making yourself better.   And I'll add to that by saying, Don't worry about the ones who choose to be asleep.   Like you, they had a choice.  But they chose to be hypnotized.

an appropriate title for this thread might be "musings" or "venting" or "right brained anger."

i read this forum a lot - up until the start of this month it was everyday (along with the C's Signs of the Times) but, officialy, this month there is no internet.

because if anyone remembers, i am a terrorized soul.  terrorized by my own procrastination and self-sabotage that the novel my soul has yearned to create for more than a year-and-a-half has yet to be written.  in november i (tried to) participate in NaNoWriMo - National novel writing month.  i had simplified (rewritten, actually) my original concept for the plot to such a point it was emasculated and pointless.  plus i was over-consumed with thoughts of what the election results meant (truly, i would have been just as concerned if kerry had won).   

so i said ENOUGH!  i came up with a third (yes, third!) idea for how to write my 1984-meets-ashcroft novel that wouldn't suck but would still be doable for the novice which i am.  i instituted my own NaNoWriMo which would encompass March.  I have been making progress, and unlike in November i feel confident about what I'm writing.  when its finished, yes, it will need (much) editing, but it isn't a lost cause.  the spirits of orwell and huxley have smiled upon me at last.  yet today i was still compelled to break my own no-alcohol rule for the month and buy three sparks.  sparks are products i know were marketed especially for me.  they're alcoholic energy drinks.  you know the red bull etc. drinks.  i know in the board meeting for the company they said - ok, so we took an energy drink, added a higher alc./vol. than most beer, so jess should be all over this...but we need something more.  a board member says, "I know, let's make the can orange!" the ceo, "yes!  that's it, we got him!"

so i finished those, discovered that yes, the no-drinking rule was there for a reason and i cannot write my daily quota, even if amped up on energy drink and inhibitions lowered with alcohol.  but i finished the sparks and went to the bar and bought the new budweisser equivalent.  it tastes even worse, but i bought five of these and while i can't focus on my book per se, i can still rant god dammit!  and rant i am.........my book (ideally) should focus not just on the 3D realities of encroaching tyranny, but also on the mind-manipulation side of things.  so hopefully these two (so far) rantings will provide at least a small outlet for my mental energy which can possibly be used or edited into my book later. 

I also broke my no-internet rule.  i know you, lyra, had mentioned that you became almost addicted to certain sites (like rense) which for you was stupid, because you already knew what was going on yet you kept going back.  it was like that with me.  i kept saying, i gotta see SOTT or infowars.com (or this site!) to inspire me, yet it was really a well-meaning trap for myself.  so anyway, no alcohol and no internet turned into YES! YES! and here i am.  posting one of my rare posts to my favorite messageboard.  the sparks experiment failed, yet i still cannot untrain my mind from thinking about my writing, which is good.  that second rant (the teletubbies one) could go almost word for word (almost) into a later part of my book.  so all is well in novel-land.

it's weird when you procrastinate on something truly important to you.  you become (or i do anyway) so depressed about not doing what you know you should - not just what you know your 3D body should do but your very soul itself - so depressed that you feel hopeless about anything.  i wanted to post so many times to this board but always said "i dont have time" yet i had time to read article after article on alex jones' website.  so, in a way, limiting myself and breaking my limits (even just this night) has provided an outlet for expression that had been bottled up for so long.  of course i am still going to go back to work tomorrow to catch up (must write 1,667 words daily for the NaNoWriMo goal of 50,000 in 30 days) but i have the next two days off, so its cool.  All comes to where it need come if we let it.

Lyra, also, I must say I've always enjoyed your posts but i'd never really posted to/from you, and your first paragraph of your reply to my first post had me laughing for a long, long time.  plus it gave me confidence.  that's the kind of writing i strive to do - tie things together.  not so much to change the world, but to inspire the one person who is yet to come who will (whose sandal straps i am not fit to unfasten!).  I hope I will be able to send my first draft (due in early april!) to several people on this board, who can then retransmit it as they deem helpful.  punk!

anyway, i need to take another break to go outside and smoke (r.j. reynolds, you rock my lungs, baby!).  it is raining.  so many people here have prayed, begged and self-flagellated themselves in hope of rain for so long.  we have like mega-drought times one thousand.  i meant to take a picture of the mountains just outside of town for my (non-existent) website, to show that they have NO SNOW AT ALL, which is downright biblical for february!  they should have some snow until, like, june.  we will probably have mighty terrible wildfires (again) this summer.  its funny, i work in a grocery store in a small town (about 800 people, but a large surrounding area) and the main topics are either weather or gas prices.  the gas price conversation reminds me of orwell, where the only conversation that united the proles was the lottery.  but the weather, oh when people talk about the weather, and wonder why our weather is so out-of-whack, i always bring up "you know, EVERYWHERE on this planet the weather is messed up" to which they agree, but never going further.  i keep hoping for someone to enthusiastically take me up on my unspoken conversation prodder. 

so smoking, yah, i quit smoking april 22 (long story, but real) and have one more budweisser energy drink yet to drink - hopefully more ranting to come! glad to finally post without concern for wasted time (already wasted most of today not-writing - but will).

i've noticed that perhaps my posts are difficult to read on here.  something to do with the standards for what computer codes represent which punctuation - i use linux, and in my browser quotes on this board tend to show up as a sequence of four unrelated symbols - annoying, but something one could get used to.  Now, on these posts (which i've typed in my linux word processor, openoffice.org) my quotes show up on my own browser as question marks on both sides.  so its like ?this is a quote? to me, i don't know if anyone else sees it like that but if you do, its not intentional.  here's what "quotes" should look like (the word quotes is in actual quotes). 

so the technical b.s. is out of the way, i ran out of energy beers and went back to the bar i got them from, they had already closed so i went to the bar across the street (the only two bars within the city limits here) saw some friends and talked for a while (like an hour) listened to songs on the jukebox, made the mistake of joining their conversation on computer problems.  i used to be such a computer geek in high school before i got so sick of them.  even though i use linux, which most people probably think means i'm a nonstop computer nerd, i only use the computer for word processing and internet.  but yet i gave them advice on windows xp (which i've only had the displeasure of using once) and now they want me to work on their computer.  of course, i can't say no but i did say absolutely not until april (when my first draft is done) because march is my writing month (except for tonight, obviously).  so, anyway, i don't know XP but i'm gonna have to try and help them in about a month.  i don't know why i posted that useless info.

as far as this masterpiece of world literature (not!), nothing and i mean nothing can be distributed on the internet until it is done (including first drafts!).  when the first draft is done i will send printed copies through the mail to some interested parties, but not until i have finished the editing (in april and maybe may, but must be done quickly....) will i release it online.  then, anyone can read it and hopefully as many people as are interested all at once (literature for the masses!).  i'm not paranoid, mind you.....but if i am successful at even three percent of my goal in this writing i mustn't sabotage it before it is finished.  my goal is in the writing to make the point that if anyone makes the point i'm making (that we are at, like, dec. 29 1983 - almost) and they disappear, or commit "suicide" then that is all the more evidence that what this hypothetical person (meaning me) is trying to say is sooooo true.  i'm so drunk now so this might not make sense.  but it must be complete first.  there was a slightly paranoid reason to not go online AT ALL until i'm finished, but yet..........here i am.  so if you're moist at the thought of reading a crappy first draft, let me know thru this forum (i'll check it again after this month) and i'll email you for your contact info and send you a hard copy.  but after tonight (soon my pretties...) i must once again unplug the phone cord from the wall and say "no! not until april may i reconnect that devil-conduit again" and then, alas i will not be online for drunken, nonsense ramblings until, well i'm back online.  yup i can even tell i'm drunk now.  but oh!  so much energy from the caffeine, taurine, ginseng, guarana, etc. in this "beer."  paranoia, cha! cha! cha! (anyone else got the rock against bush cds? good stuff.  punk!)

p.s. - thanks both so far for the early replies - oh it makes my heart glad to have such rapid response to my pouring forth of pent-up posting desires.

that made-up date was supposed to reference that we are on the verge of "1984" - as if in a couple more steps we will be in the totalitarian horror Orwell describes in the book of the same name.  of course, in the book the "glorious revolution" happens years or decades before 1984, but i like to say we're in late 1983 just to convey how close we are to what he described (only better!  technology, digital cameras, biometrics, RFID!  woohoo!) but yet, we can still "stop progress" as it were before we cross over into 1984.  Because the society as Orwell describes is irreversible.  Even with the limited technology he could imagine, it was impossible as he described that hypothetical reality to reverse things.  That's why the book was so hopeless (depressing) - even if Winston Smith could get the proletarians united, a revolution against Big Brother could NEVER succeed - they had crossed the rubicon, as it were and there was no going back.

So, for references or links, I'd recommend the book "1984" by George Orwell, "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley and the tragically overlooked "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis.  Lewis' book describes a fascist takeover in America.  Amazing thing is, it was written in, I think, 1935 - before even the most astute outside observers could see just how bad the system Mussolini created and Hitler perfected could really be.

I would also recommend - to every living person on this planet if I could - "They Thought They Were Free" by Milton Mayer.  It's a history book by an American Jew who goes to Germany in the 1950s to try and answer the question "HOW?!"  He does a fantastic job interviewing ordinary Germans who became members of the Nazi party (never revealing he was Jewish, of course, because even after V-E Day, most Germans amazingly still agreed with Hitler, thinking only that he made certain strategic blunders).  It's astonishing to read his book, looking into the minds of these ordinary Germans and comparing their mindsets to those we see today in America.  Agaain, every person really should read this if possible.  I got it on Inter-Library Loan.  It really sheds light on how normally sensible people could be caught up in the propaganda, and how these people could say with total sincerity "we didn't know!"  Again, essential reading in these interesting times.

Thanks thoughtcrime... I thought you were alluding to something more, such as the currently fashionable Gregorian calendar having thrown back history by a varying amount of years. Charlemagne invented by the pope? 600-900AD never existed? Who knows. The point I'm trying to make is this: Prophecies have been made and the date has passed without said prophecy occurring. Perhaps this is because of the calendar/date throwback created to deceive us into thinking that certain "prophets" such as the big N-ostrodamus were incorrect? 'Tis a wild speculation... but it leads to interesting questions. The date as I am posting is 8th of march 2005, but it's really just a number and a name, I could just as easily start my own calendar and dating system with my own fanciful names. The gregorian calendar supposedly does not adhere to the true orbital/lunar/solar cycles, maybe that is why the weather is so out of whack during seasons where it is supposed to behave a certain way.
Our days are organised (well, mine aren't, but you get the idea) into 5 days of work, 1 of rest and 1 of worship. Ridiculous. I'm only just beginning to delve into the subject, but a 13 month calendar consisting of 28 days per month is supposed to be more in tune with our living cycles, or so I've read. :S Someone with more knowledge on the subject may be able to discuss more.
Never really dug too deep into this because I've almost escaped thinking in terms of days months years or even hours... I just live my life as it comes in the best way I can think of, that is: remaining light hearted and light spirited in all situations, respecting others free-will (whether it exists or not, I don't think it's up to any one person to decide, and one should respect another's belief in free-will just as much), and more recently trying to live as if I couldn't speak (not literally, but the intention should become apparent upon contemplation).
Well, this is almost officially a rambling thread now. Let's see what you've got

Alushe

hey, good luck on your writing, from what i see i know it will turn some heads!!!

nice 2 meet u too

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