16 Reply by Sowelu (edited by Sowelu 2005-12-11 19:24:20)

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Re: what to eat (was Stuie/Yoga/Ghouls)

Hard to believe, but as a kid my favorite meal was liver! Haha! My own mother wouldn't cook it in the house cuz she thought it was gross (and she's a great cook, Italian, btw), but my German Dad and I just loved it - had to eat it at the local diner. LOL! I don't tend toward it much anymore, but once in a while I crave it. Never had heart, though... don't think I could eat it. Ack!

And I don't know if this is the same thing you're referring to, but I've always wondered about this one tooth - just one - with a bump behind it that I feel with my tongue. Nothing wrong with the tooth or anything, no injuries, just a bump on the inside. Left side, right next to the front tooth. But it seems to be on the tooth itself, up by the gumline, high. Yup, I just felt it, it's on the tooth. Could there be just one to be what you're talking about? Prolly not, I guess.

Don't know if this is what you're talking about, but I found this link with some info (toward the bottom of the page) http://www.melungeonhealth.org/info.html

site link wrote:

There is also a ridge on the back of the first four teeth - two front teeth and the ones on either side (upper and lower) of some descendants. If you place your fingernail at the gum line and gently draw (up or down) you can feel it and it makes a slight clicking sound. The back of the teeth also curve outward rather than straight as the descendants of anglo-saxon parentage do. Teeth like these are called Asian Shovel Teeth.

The site references a pdf that I did not read, that apparently has info on it as well, from what I could tell.

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Re: what to eat (was Stuie/Yoga/Ghouls)

Sowelu wrote:

Hard to believe, but as a kid my favorite meal was liver! Haha! My own mother wouldn't cook it in the house cuz she thought it was gross (and she's a great cook, Italian, btw), but my German Dad and I just loved it - had to eat it at the local diner. LOL! I don't tend toward it much anymore, but once in a while I crave it. Never had heart, though... don't think I could eat it. Ack!

Well, I never ate liver as a kid, because my mother hated it and no one else ever gave it to me...but when I was 18, I started getting interested in healthy diet, including Adelle Davis' books.  She recommended foods like liver and other organ meats for their protein and vitamin B content.  So...the first time I ever had liver was in a fancy restaurant with friends.  I saw liver with bacon and onions on the menu and ordered that.  It was the best meal I'd ever had--transcendent!

I can't cook liver as well as they did in that restaurant, but once in a while I'll broil or pan-fry some with onions and butter.  The liver needs to be very fresh, otherwise it's yucky. 

These days I'd describe my eating style as "moderated indulgence."  I eat what I want, but I know enough about healthy eating to balance
my dietary "wants" (fried foods, coffee, wine, pizza) with my "needs" (fruits/veggies, lots of water, nuts and seeds, etc.)  I exercise daily and I take a good amount of supplements.

It's all about balance...

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montalk wrote:

Since food has become a subject in the recent "Little things that make a difference" thread, I felt like resurrecting this topic of "what to eat". Generally, I've observed that people tend to experiment with their diets before settling into something that best fits their metabolism, so what works for one might not be ideal for others. But if anyone here is up for sharing some key points of what they have found helpful in their diets, I would be glad to listen.

I have taylored my ideal diet to be:

* high in protein and iron: to give me energy and clarity - turkey, fish, chicken, eggs, chick-peas and beans, enriched pasta.

* sufficient calorie content: lack of calories makes me fuzzy headed - no reservations in using butter, olive oil, coconut milk...calories better gotten from fat than carbs

* high in magnesium, potassium: calms the nerves - bananas, vegetable soups made with peanuts and celery among other ingredients.

*pH balancing: to prevent acidity that robs cells of oxygen and creates listlessness - curry, onions, avocados, vegetable soup, coconut juice, tea, bananas, potassium salt

* low in dairy: casein (protein) in dairy can turn into casomorphin, an opiate that gums up the brain...plus I get sick more easily after having too much dairy. I find butter is still okay, and diluted half-n-half is better than equivalent milk, but that coconut milk works best as a non-dairy substitute.

* low in sugar and starches: turbinado sugar in moderation, bread and pastries very rarely.  Unless I slip up, then bye-bye good diet.

*low in nightshades: tomatoes, potatoes, and peppers contain solanine, a substance similar to nicotine which wears down the immune system and is slightly addictive.

* low glycemic: to balance blood sugar and prevent crashes - irish oats, brown basmati rice, protein enriched pasta, butter or oil added to carbs to slow sugar conversion.

What the hell is wrong with this guy?  This diet is way too normal, reasonable, intuitive, obvious and easily maintainable to work.  ;-)

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Re: what to eat (was Stuie/Yoga/Ghouls)

i just found out about B12 !

it's an important vitamin and was lacking in my diet as i wasn't aware of how much of it i wasn't getting - which resulted in my lips going a little numb sometimes (only after about 2 months of abstaining from meat), so i went to the doc, and found out that apparently this is really common with people who abstain from meat products as meat is a major source of B12 .... i also took a blood test and am waiting to find out if it really is B12 that's lacking.

apparently if there's a B12 deficiency for a long time, it could lead to neural damage and anemia .... scary !!! apparently, other symptoms (besides numb lips) include getting cold easily, feeling tired, unable to concentrate

our bodies are so delicate sometimes it seems !! and to think, all the years i spent hardly paying any attention to mine big_smile

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20 Reply by lyra (edited by lyra 2006-03-16 19:53:27)

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Re: what to eat (was Stuie/Yoga/Ghouls)

oceanchild wrote:

.......found out that apparently this is really common with people who abstain from meat products as meat is a major source of B12 .... apparently, other symptoms (besides numb lips) include getting cold easily, feeling tired, unable to concentrate

Yes, more vegetarians should really research health and nutrition before they just decide to cut out meat.  You can't just stop eating meat and think that carbs, cheese and soy/tofu will suffice, as many vegetarians mistakenly believe.

Too often, vegetarians start acting, to put it delicately, a bit bonkers in the noggin.   They begin experiencing mood swings, and become very emotionally batty about weird stuff.   One time at Whole Foods we read this Comment Card posted on the bulletin board for a crazy vegetarian woman who was all emotionally nutty, saying she wanted there to be MEAT FREE CHECK OUT LANES, so that SHE wouldn't have to stand in the same lane as those CARNIVORES!   I mean, hello.....eat some meat or take some B vitamins and stop being batty.   Also, I once worked with this woman who was a vegetarian, and probably weighed like 80 pounds, with sticks for arms and legs, looked like s*** to boot, and couldn't think, focus, concentrate or remember anything short term to save her life.  She behaved like she was in a perpetual "brain fog."   REALLY dazed and ditzy, with far away, glassy eyes.  Yet, she wasn't an empty "puppet person" or anything like that.  There was definitely sentience there...even a bit of a fiesty temper.  smile   It's just her brain was muddled and clouded, almost ALL the time.   Lack of meat, on a long term basis, without sufficient substitutes to take its place, is what I suspect.  I was forever having to re-do work from her that came my way.   The work she submitted was embarrassing, it was like she just couldn't think.  She performed the worst in the office, and was eventually fired because of it.  I joked a number of times to one of my coworker buddies that we needed to stage an intervention and strap this woman down and force feed her a hamburger or something.  Seriously.   Beef, and red meat in general, is very high in B vitamins, and when I've gone too long without sufficient protein, I notice that I get cravings for it.  Not cravings for poultry...but red meat.  It's the B vitamins, all the way.  There are several B-vitamin disorders, including Beriberi, (severe Thiamin/B1 deficiency), B2 deficiency categorized by cracked lips, inflamed tongue, visual disturbances, anemia, etc; and Pellagra, or B3/Niacin deficiency, and so on.   All the B vitamins are important though.

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Re: what to eat (was Stuie/Yoga/Ghouls)

This site has been posted before, but here it is again:

http://www.whfoods.com

Discusses the nutritional value of most foods, lists the healthiest foods per vitamin or mineral, and so on. Indispensable reference! You can be a successful vegetarian with adequate research and patience to shop and cook properly.

I've been doing well on chicken, turkey, and sardines since it's maximum chemical energy for minimum personal energy spent prepping or shopping. The same nutritional benefits can be derived through vegetarianism by spending, preparing, and eating more often, which some people are comfortable accommodating.

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Oceanchild and lyra,
Good post's on B-vitamins.   I get nudges to take B all the time and don't pay attention, only recently I could not understand why I kept thinking of my bottle of multi-B I used to take.   With post's like the last two I get the "ah ha" and now know that I have to take them more often.    It's interesting to see how I was getting subtle messages but not paying attention, I have to watch that.  OK... the message is received!

23 Reply by Matthew (edited by Matthew 2006-03-18 09:22:16)

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I have 6 ridges on my top row of teeth and four on the bottom front teeth, but I'm not asian. I'm German, Swedish, and English. Maybe I have more in me I am not aware of.

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Re: what to eat (was Stuie/Yoga/Ghouls)

montalk wrote:

I've been doing well on chicken, turkey, and sardines since it's maximum chemical energy for minimum personal energy spent prepping or shopping.

Mix sardines with tuna fish !
The mix is much more tasteful than the fish alone, it brings a new life
to the common sardine or tuna recipes.
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Montalk,
Thank's for the long list of what you eat.   The protein enriched pasta really jumped out at me.   As it turn's out, just coincidentally, while shopping at my local food store, there happen's to be a new protein enriched pasta right there next to the regular pasta I buy, so I just switched.    Two little coincidences like that mean it's time for me to get with the program, especially since my intuition is alway's on the lookout for changes I really need to make.  I try to listen carefully these day.

Also, thanks for the World's Healthiest Foods website, that's a great find!   I have to pass it along to friends too!

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Re: what to eat (was Stuie/Yoga/Ghouls)

meat free check-out lanes ... bah haha !!!

o man ...

i have a few friends long-time vegetarian friends ... and the thing that stands out about all of them to me is their skin colour ! very pale !!

about the vitamins, Lyra's right, all B vitamins are the goods + necessary - and i should have done more research before deciding to put a full stop to eating animals ...

& ya, Montalk, thanks again for the World's Healthiest Foods website link - they have a great bunch of meat-free recipies !

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Re: what to eat (was Stuie/Yoga/Ghouls)

William Wolcott, in his book "The Metabolic Typing Diet", proposes 3 types of people: Carb types, Protein types, and Mixed.

Carb type needs: High carb, low protein, low fat diet; restrict salt, get lots of potassium - the food pyramid is close.( Forum Keeper-upper seems to fit this ).

Protein type needs: Less carbs, more protein, more fat; in fact, a few grams of naturally saturated animal fat at each meal is very good for Protein types. Also, we ( I am 1 ) metabolize potassium at a much slower rate than you Carb types do, so we must limit ourselves to 1 serving of a high-potassium food per day - chronic low BP/fatigue if too much P. Get salt every day, and calcium. Make sure grains and beans are fermented ( " sprouted " ). ( Fringe Dweller, you "burger-craving butter thief", limit that potassium! )

Note that the diet each needs to B healthy is unhealthy for the other type!

We are all Kosh.