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Re: Holographic fake scenarios coming

Does any know of any current technology that is able to project a moving holographic image as in Star Wars movies etc.?

It seems to be that the major holdback on this was that a laser projector needed a medium such as smoke (as in rock concert laser effects) to reflect off of in order to be seen.

Only speculation here but could this be tied into the metal particulates that are supposedly introduced to the air by chemtrails?

Just trying to get an idea of how this technology would work.

Stephen

  • From: Pizzabar Sunny Bay
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Re: Holographic fake scenarios coming

The planned fake Jezus is not just an holographic illusion.

There will be a real physical person presented as "Jezus Christ".

He will have the DNA of the Shroud of Turin. So, the biggest skeptics have to believe this.

That's why the book "The Code of DaVinci" was a bestseller last months.

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Atlantis wrote:

The planned fake Jezus is not just an holographic illusion.

There will be a real physical person presented as "Jezus Christ".

Any further info on this, like books or websites you have read, or personal insights and research you have done? Or is this just fun speculation? What I mean is, for discussion it helps to include some reasons and additional sources for ideas so that others can follow where you're coming from and follow up on the data to draw their own conclusions as well.

In regards to the fake Jesus, I did come across one source that talks openly about the idea: the Allies of Humanity book (you know where to find it). Here is the excerpt.

Allies of Humanity wrote:

Many in your world follow the Christian faith. We think
this is admirable though it is certainly not the only approach
to the fundamental questions of spiritual identity and purpose
in life. The visitors will utilize the fundamental idea of alle-
giance to a single leader in order to generate allegiance to
their cause. Within the context of this religion, the identifica-
tion with Jesus the Christ will be greatly utilized. The hope
and the promise of his return to the world offers your visitors
a perfect opportunity, particularly at this turning point in the
millennium.

It is our understanding that the true Jesus will not return
to the world, for he is working in concert with the Unseen
Ones and serves humanity and other races as well. The one
who will come claiming his name will come from the Greater
Community. He will be one who is born and bred for this pur-
pose by the collectives that are in the world today. He will
appear human and will have significant abilities compared to
what you can accomplish at this moment. He will seem com-
pletely altruistic. He will be able to perform acts that will
engender either fear or great reverence. He will be able to
project images of angels, demons or whatever his superiors
wish to expose you to. He will seem to have spiritual powers.
Yet he will come from the Greater Community, and he will be
part of the collective. And he will engender allegiance to fol-
low him. Eventually, for those who cannot follow him, he will
encourage their alienation or their destruction.

The visitors do not care how many of your people are
destroyed so long as they have a primary allegiance amongst
the majority. Therefore, the visitors will focus on those funda-
mental ideas that give them this authority and influence.

A Second Coming, then, is being prepared by your visi-
tors. The evidence of this, we understand, is already in the
world. People do not realize the presence of the visitors or the
nature of reality in the Greater Community, and so they will
naturally accept their prior beliefs without question, feeling
that the time has come for the great return of their Savior and
their Teacher. But he who will come will not come from the
heavenly host, he will not represent Knowledge or the Unseen
Ones, and he will not represent the Creator or the Creator's
will. We have seen this plan in formulation in the world. We
have also seen similar plans carried out in other worlds.

In other religious traditions, uniformity will be encour-
aged by the visitors--what you might call a fundamental kind
of religion based upon the past, based upon allegiance to
authority and based upon conformity to the institution. This
serves the visitors. They are not interested in the ideology and
values of your religious traditions, only in their usefulness.
The more that people can think alike, act alike and respond
in predictable ways, the more useful they are to the collectives.
This conformity is being promoted in many differ-
ent traditions. The intent here is not to make them all the
same but to have them be simple within themselves.

That is a viable scenario. If someone looking like Jesus did show up, a large majority of Christians and Catholics would fall in worship and never suspect an antichrist scenario (since in the antichrist is typically depicted in movies as a charming political leader in a suit). Display of  miraculous powers would be enough to convince the skeptics, while Islam and Judaism acknowledge Jesus as a divine historical figure and would be empowered by such an appearance. I wouldn't be surprised if a fake Jesus appeared after the "obvious" antichrist (like schwarzenegger or some other charismatic political world leader) is deposed. Guess we'll find out what happens, if anything.

Atlantis wrote:

He will have the DNA of the Shroud of Turin. So, the biggest skeptics have to believe this.

That's why the book "The Code of DaVinci" was a bestseller last months.

That doesn't really explain why The DaVinci code was a bestseller. That book was about modern royalty descending from Jesus, so if anything it was a preparation to give the current royal-blooded elite divine-rights to rule openly over mankind. I suppose the scenario could stage them as knightly servants to the King Jezus whose identity is validated by his miraculous powers and, yes, even DNA. Whether the shroud of Turin will play a part, I don't know, but I highly doubt some DNA correspondence will be the only validator.

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19 Reply by Atlantis (edited by Atlantis 2005-01-16 18:48:03)

  • From: Pizzabar Sunny Bay
  • Registered: 2004-09-08

Re: Holographic fake scenarios coming

montalk wrote:

That doesn't really explain why The DaVinci code was a bestseller.

This book is a part of the game to imprint the idea at "intellectual people".

I have no concrete proofs, but all my research last years points to this scenario.
I've named already a lot of sources of my research in different posts.

but you if monitor the Jesuits these days you will be convinced they belong to the biggest orchestrators behind the planned scenes.
And if you can get their plans, you have this staged second coming plan.
They named themselves Jesuits = Soldiers of Jezus, for almost 500 years.

I agree with your statements regarding the Jezus-bloodline elite.

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Stephen M wrote:

Does any know of any current technology that is able to project a moving holographic image as in Star Wars movies etc.?

It seems to be that the major holdback on this was that a laser projector needed a medium such as smoke (as in rock concert laser effects) to reflect off of in order to be seen.

Only speculation here but could this be tied into the metal particulates that are supposedly introduced to the air by chemtrails?

Just trying to get an idea of how this technology would work.

Stephen

Bingo! Well done old chap! Exactly what the first phases of the sprays were about... And that cofirmation comes directly from a friend of mine in Australia who happens to work in signal processing for a major "defense" (irony...) firm.He can't say much directly, but had a visit from him over xmas- and we chatted at length, with the Chemmy issue clearly at odds with his conscience, he confirmed that derivitives of the metals with the spray were being distributed as a blanket carrier/reflectant for Electronic Warfare practices...charming stuff... the biological agents are pre-mixed prior to barium etc being added (apparently).

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Atlantis! Brother!
                       I can't help but admire your enthusiasm for shotgunning some of the more end-game raves forward for discussion, it's just that your syntax comes off a little noisy mate! You're among friends here.
                       As for your Anti-christaic rave, better spell-check some of your imprints there. If the DNA replicant were to be extracted from the Turin Shroud, that would most likely give us JACQUES de MOLAY v2.0. Check your sources... (Suggest you study a book called "The SECOND MESSIAH by Knight/Lomas).There's a movie called "Revelations" feat. Terence Stamp that plays out the same old tired concept via DNA extracted from long-hidden nails from the crucifix...
                       The whole bloodline trip has been outlined in healthy detail via the likes of Icke etc, so be a little careful where you hang your hat on this issue, as the "disinfo" you abhor so righteously is rife in this area alone.
                        "Bluebook" has been spoken of most intellegently via DISCLOSURE PROJECT eyewitness testimony DVD, and while absolutely possible, your take on the "Megaphone" from space issuing the audio track has a little problem, no air in space my friend... of course there may be tech you're aware of that transcends this physical dilemna, be sure to let us in on it, mmkay?
                     
                       There's probably more references I would question, but suffice to say maybe a little less aristotalean mandate in your discourses would serve you better in future.No enemies or lessers to impress here mate, just deliver your POV as noise-free as possible and the flames will return to compassionate embers...

                                                                         Cheers!     AJ

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  • From: zerone
  • Registered: 2004-08-16

Re: Holographic fake scenarios coming

i tried to reply approx 15 mins ago and got nasty punbb errors... anyways just FYI...

unfortunately i also believe that chem trails may be setting the sky up for holographic projections.

i read, about one year ago, plans for doing just this. the article was disguised underneath a "hollywood" type of application. what the article said was that 'they' are trying to make holographic projections that project onto the Sky, and the application was that they would have "Advertisements" or Commercials or Messages up in the sky, allowing thousands to view at once...

also, i think chem trails are also being used to manipulate weather. China is Chem Spraying disguised under a "drought" scenario; i.e. they want to chem spray in hopes of making more clouds = more rain etc... (perhaps the 'drought' is real, and furthermore man-made...)

maybe im stating the obvious, but take it for what its worth.

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nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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23 Reply by wandering1 (edited by wandering1 2005-01-17 14:28:32)

  • Registered: 2004-04-01

Re: Holographic fake scenarios coming

Bravo to the people who contributed to this thread!

Previously I had not considered that one of the reasons for the chemtrails might be to serve as a surface for reflective or holographic projection.

This may or may not end up happening, but I think that it is a reasonable possibility.

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Ditto wandering1's sentiments.  Bravo ...

I've also been pondering how this new possibility for holographic projections fits with the typical PTB plans to create confusion.  Specifically, for those of us who read Stuart Wilde he's been talking for ages about huge images in the sky coming from the mirror world or etheric.  Some malevolent faces appearing, "souls" stuck in the between lives area and other places, more recently about benevolent images/beings that we'll be able to see clearly.

So ... when I (if I) ever see one of these images ... the beautiful ones or others ... what an incredible act of discernment it will be for me to be able to "tell" who is who.  Which are "ills" holographic projections and which ones (if I listen to Stuart) are real.

And I thought my discerning was getting easier ... geesch!!

Christine B.

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Yep! I wrote Montalk a long while back about a holographic "jogger" I had seen while on my run. It was a female, and she looked like alot of people you see around here, but as I got nearer to her as I came facing her (in my running) around the bend, she suddenly disappeared, shut off, like a computer image just turned off, only faster!

It made me think: am I being monitored and tinkered with on my jogs, and are they making a bunch of fake joggers to make me feel that "all is as usual, all is normal, everything is okay"? And BAM! I caught them in the act, I let my true vision see what normally the subconscious brain shuts off?

I think this is a real possiblity. We are so used to not really seeing each other, that people appearing and disappearing in peripheral vision could be going on all the time with holographic inserts, and perhaps, as I experienced, full head on holograms are being utilized.

If the image had not malfunctioned at that moment, I'd have believed I had seen just another typical jogger in the area, and never been the wiser.

This wasn't a hallucination. I've had those. This was like a projected, fully 3D person right there in front of my eyes, and then shut off , blinked out in a most unnatural manner.

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Reminds me of that scene in "The Devil's Advocate" with the demonic entities which appear as ordinary joggers.

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Oh, yeah. Gives you the creeps.

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SednaSphere wrote:

Yep! I wrote Montalk a long while back about a holographic "jogger" I had seen while on my run. It was a female, and she looked like alot of people you see around here, but as I got nearer to her as I came facing her (in my running) around the bend, she suddenly disappeared, shut off, like a computer image just turned off, only faster!




WOW!   Holy crap!!!!

!!!!

Sometimes I wonder if something is "testing" us, to see what we'll do.  Could have been you accidentally saw through something you weren't supposed to see, or, something wanted you to see, to test your reaction.

Honestly, I've had so many bizarre experiences myself where I just.....kept going about my business like "lalala....ANYway...!"  that I have to wonder.....are we being tested??  Do they want to see how many people are willing to "overlook" the bizarre?  So they can learn how far they can push the boundaries, how much they can get away with?

Think about how many others out there may have seen similar things to what you just described....how many people tried to dismiss it like, "Oh, I just imagined that...that couldn't be real...." or in our case, where we KNOW what we saw, we KNOW reality isn't what they're telling us it is, but........what are we going to do about it?  What, run amok through the streets screaming to the world about the things we know?   Yeah right!   We purposely choose to overlook it and keep going...and keep going.......and keep going.....no matter how crazy it gets.  "Lalala!  Anyway!  So, I have to go to work now, nevermind that craziness!  I have to get food for my cat!  I have to go the bank and cash my check now!   Lalala!  I have my life I have to lead, nevermind that weirdness!"  We know we can't run amok, so, we purposely go back to the now VERY obvious illusion!

!!

Damn though.......holographic joggers..........See, THAT'S what my brother used to tell me, ALL the fricking time like I mentioned earlier in this thread.  I just got so over it after awhile, listening to him tell me about the holographic inserts and the fake people, the holographic this, and the holographic that...........entire areas of the planet that are no longer "real" apparantly...........I mean, you just get to a point where you're like "Okay...shut up already!"    big_smile  haha    I'll never forget one of the last things he said to me................."None of this is real, Carissa.  IT'S NOT REAL.   None of it."

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29 Reply by Atlantis (edited by Atlantis 2005-01-18 16:50:21)

  • From: Pizzabar Sunny Bay
  • Registered: 2004-09-08

Re: Holographic fake scenarios coming

reason wrote:

Atlantis! Brother!

                     
I can't help but admire your enthusiasm for shotgunning some of the more end-game raves
forward for discussion, it's just that your syntax comes off a little noisy mate!

I agree, sometimes have to control myself in givin' not to much information,
My syntax was noisy last month, yes that's very true, because sometimes it's needed to shake a tree to get the some valuable apples (new serious subjects) fallin' in your hands.
I already pointed I take a rest, so after this I'll do.

You're among friends here.

I know

As for your Anti-christaic rave, better spell-check some of your imprints there.

If the DNA replicant were to be extracted from the Turin Shroud,

No, I didn't say that, let me be more clear:

The Mossad/Israeli's will confirm the DNA of the Shroud of Turin is of a person who lived in Israel about 2000 years ago, etc etc.

The DNA of the second Jezus-person will have the same DNA as the shroud of Turin,
BUT, his DNA is not TAKEN from this Shroud.

It is the DNA of a Jezus-person who lived also 2000 years ago, extracted/manipulated and taken/catched in time-space travelling.
With this DNA they then have CLONED (as like the "boys from Brazil" movie) a second Jezus-person, and his DNA matches the DNA of the Shroud of Turin.
So, it's total independent of the Shroud residuary.

Although, I'm very convinced this is their plan.

I can not tell this is the truth, because I have NO proofs.

But, I found last 3 years to many hints that this plan is not a just a Hollywood B-movie scenario.

And although David Icke is very good man, I'm very aware his glossary of the Christ religion and background is softly to say "not perfect".
(Don't make a mistake, I am not stating here the Bible-Jezus-Christ really did exist !)                   

But suffice to say maybe a little less aristotalean mandate in your discourses would serve you better in future.

No enemies or lessers to impress here mate, just deliver your POV as noise-free as possible and the flames will return to compassionate embers...

Oh yes, you're probably correct.

But sometimes, I have this aristotalean style to get the point much faster on the desk.
A little speculation will fit the optimum to get faster insights in the big picture, instead of slowly boring source giving protocols (which could also be dangerous for the Truth)

It's a trap to conform discussions 100 % like scientists do,
A little room for constructive speculation, say 5-10% can open many eyes.

Thanks.

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Lyra: I know, huh? Wierd, wierd, wierd, was what I felt about what had happened.
And then I thought to myself: well, why should you be so suprised? What was that you read on Montalk the other day?

BAM! It hits me like a ten ton brick: this guy's not kidding around! This stuff's serious. And I really felt that it was a bit of a warning, as if to say: "You think you wanna go this deep? You think you wanna know this stuff? Well, here it is, and this is just the tip of what we can do. So watch out , little lady." (Er somethin' to that effect.)

Yes. Well. Ahem. I had always been interested in holograms, and I had to go stikin' my big nose into it....heh heh.

What your brother said: sounds like he knew from experience what he was talking about.

Perhaps they are planning big shows, big illusions, religious farces, etc. But I know for most people, as you said Lyra, it's the day to day stuff that gets em. It's the little things you don't notice, the fly on the wall, that really could allow for eventual bigger illusions. Or perhaps things that are targeted to areas which had been "tenderized" by such wondrous mundanities as joggers!