1 Topic by Menses (edited by Menses 2004-12-16 12:16:08)

  • Registered: 2004-05-21

Topic: Experiences with ET/Aliens?

I may have had an experience with something that I cannot quite understand myself.  In fact...I have had this happen several times over the years.  I was reading some of the posts about Greys and ETs and the like and I decided I should share this experience in hopes that somebody has had a similar thing happen to them...I hope I am not alone on this one cause it is something I have been wondering about since I was a child....I have tried to speak to my mother about it...but obviously there was no way she was going to understand it...or maybe she did because she did refer to my experiences as "demon" oriented...


This has happened at least 6 times between the ages of about 9 and 25....I am 25 now....During my sleep...I often have nightmares about various things..and dreams about various things.  Id like to think I know when I am dreaming.  When ever we dream and wake up, we usually can tell right away that it was a dream...nothing to worry about. (Well actually since coming to this board...even that assumption is now in doubt..)  However this experience is something That I strongly feel is not a dream...because it damn sure didnt feel like one...

As I am sleeping...This entity(the only way I can describe it) approaches me...and I can feel it approach me...it usually is looking me directly in the face...As I am sleeping I can feel a presence with me...this is why I believe it is not a dream...when this is happening I feel as if I am having a conversation with this "Entity".  It is very angry and very mean.  It yells at me...but is talking to me as if giving me a lecture.  I cannot to this day decipher what it is saying but it is obviously extremely angry with me.  I cannot begin to describe the essence of evil this "entity" gives off...I went to pretty violent highschool...and I have seen some scary things...I dont scare easily...and I am telling you guys...this thing scared the shyt out of me...as Ive grown older I have learned to deal with it....but it feels so evil..pure evil...that I know it is not human....that I definitely know..


Heres what I have always noticed about my encounters with this "entity".  It usually last for about 25 seconds...its almost as if it is hurrying because it doesnt have that much time ..this is the impression I get.  And then it flies away...I literally can see it and feel it fly away from directly in front of my face...and it always leaves with a warning...like "stay in line or else....".  Im not saying thats what it said...but thats how it feels...I am mentioning this because of some thing that Lyra wrote about the Greys...in that they can travel through dimensions? and dissappear at will...This is exactly how this entity behaves...I couldnt help but make that comparison..it just seemed to make sense.


Immediately after the "entity"  leaves...I open my eyes and I have the sense that someone or something was there.  What i have noticed is that I never have that 5 minute duration where we are trying to remember what we dreamed about...Instead it is as if I just had a conversation with someone and they just left...that is exactly how it feels and it is why I believe that this is no dream..   The first time this happen I was so shocked..I couldnt go back to sleep....and when I finally would...the "entity" would again approach me like it was flying towards me...right to my face and taunt me as if to say "You cant do anything about it..." and then fly away....the whole thing would last 10 seconds...I mean you could feel as if they were taunting...and I knew it was real....When ever this happenes this is how it occurs...1 attack that lasts about 25 seconds where the entity lectures me angrily...I wake up...and curse it back to where ever it came from...and as soon as I fall asleep...a 2nd attack that lasts 10 seconds that gives you the feeling that it is taunting you...


.It is something that i cannot explain...I know people would have a hard time believing it...but it is the truth.  Could it have been a dream...I suppose.....but i want to make it clear that this did not feel like any dream....This was different...This was not normal...Until I started awakening to the true reality around us I pretty much buried this experience in the back of my mind...I only mentioned it to my mother this year and this has been going on since i was 9. 

Does anyone have a similar story to tell....I just know I cant be the only one who may have experience this kind of....whatever the hell it was.....

2 Reply by Marcus (edited by Marcus 2004-12-16 13:22:13)

  • Registered: 2004-10-15

Re: Experiences with ET/Aliens?

I can understand you wanting to share that story...I have experienced similar things, but have never really wanted to discuss it (feels like something tells me I mustn't talk about it; therefore I have only told a few people).

You are certainly not alone with those sorts of "dreams" - (I put the word dream in quotes, I don't believe they are normal "dreams" but it's the only word that best describes them).

Although the dreams were frightening I now suspect that these entities for the most part can only have evil intent towards and individual, and are unable to physically do something.

For about 3 years I had occasional dreams where I would feel a presence in the room with me at night (other than myself and my wife).  About a year ago these dreams became very intense and would occur almost every night.  I would be laying there in bed asleep; and I would then wake up - although it was a sleeping type of wakefulness – I didn’t realise at the time, but now I understand that my body was still asleep, but my mind was awake.  I was unaware of the possibilities of an etheric or astral form.  So to all intents and purposes I believed I actually was fully awake.

From the corner of the room I would feel this extremely strong presence.  And it would radiate a terrifyingly horrid intent upon me - this scared the hell out of me for a very long time.

I could never actually see the entity, but I knew it was there.  Eventually when the dreams intensified, I would feel the entity approach me...standing over me as I laid there - often I would feel unable to do anything.

Always these experiences would culminate with me awakening fully with a jump, often very frightened.  And I would have the exact same feeling as you describe - as though someone had just left the room.

The worst of these occurrences I have only mentioned to a few people...and I am very uncomfortable discussing it.  My mind is telling me as I type this, that I shouldn't be telling, and that the presence will come back if I do talk.  However, my intuition is telling me that is unlikely.  So for the first time I will tell of one of the worst of these experiences.

The dream began in the same way as I describe above.  With my awareness awakening; whilst my body slept on.  The presence was there stronger than ever this time…it began to approach me, and I felt powerless to do anything.  I can only describe it as a bodiless entity – and whilst I wouldn’t say it was purely evil – it did feel utterly wicked and cruel.  I believe now it was those feelings it seemed to radiate that were the most frightening thing.  As it stood over me, I felt such a terribly strong desire to flee from it – but as always I would never leave my bed, and I don’t know why this was.  Finally I realised I was still asleep, so in an attempt to escape I forced myself awake.

I awoke with a start, laying on my back with the room dark, but the presence still was there – but felt different somehow.  My wife was laying next to me asleep – she moved her hand up to my throat and gripped hard, as she did this the most unnatural voice I have ever heard came from her.  I froze in shear panic.  To this day, I do not remember what those words were, and something tells me that is a good thing.

The worst thing about that instance though was that my memory after that moment is a total blank.  As though it was just a dream; and I only remember a certain aspect of it.  I don’t believe it was a dream though.

After that, the presence didn’t come again for a long while.  And during the months after that, I can across philosophers like Rudolf Steiner, and slowly I learnt the beginnings of understanding my mind and its different aspects.  I also learnt about the different states of dreaming and different non-physical forms we have.  Eventually the presence did come again, in the same way.  However this time it would come with a form – that form would always be the body of someone I knew.  I don’t know why this was…maybe my awareness had learnt to see this “entity“? and so placed something visible upon it.  It was still very frightening though, and still had that wicked radiance about it.

From that point on, I would see it move around the room.  Or I would find myself in other parts of the house with it.  It wasn’t always quite as frightening then; though most the time I still awoke very scared…with that exact same feeling that someone had been there.

I won’t go into specifics at this point as that nagging voice is getting ever stronger telling me not too.  Strange.  What I will say though is that I came across something one day whilst away from home, and that thing seemed to act as some form of talisman or charm.  Then one night the presence came again – in a physical form – and I didn’t fear, and I didn’t have anger.  I was purely neutral in my intent.  I left my bed and warned the entity away with the full intent that I would attack it if it didn’t leave.

After that, the presence came once or twice…it was very weak.  Then finally it left never to return…

Up until then I had never experienced anything like it; although two of my friends had spoken of similar instances that they had experienced.

Since then I have had a lot of other experiences through “dreams“?.  All of them odd.

The strangest thing of all – which leaves me pondering the whole issue afresh, is this; two nights ago, after returning to bed from the toilet, I passed through that area of the room where that entity had radiated from.  I stopped and looked at the place where I lay in bed, and for the briefest of moments I felt…I don’t know, something almost familiar – it was like a fleeting understanding and awareness of how I -  standing there at that moment - could project intent onto someone asleep…very odd…

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Re: Experiences with ET/Aliens?

I don't think anybody's personal experiences and stories are crazy or unbelievable.   To me,  personal experiences and stories have more validity than the mainstream work put out by mainstream people who probably have been co-opted.  "Regular people's" stories, like the kind you find on messageboards usually ring more true because of the quirky and unique details that are involved.  So thanks to all who post their stories!  smile

Well, I have something similar myself, something that blurred the lines between the physical world, dreams, lucid dreams and the etheric / astral realm, involving a negative entitity that paid me a visit this past August.   It reminded me of what was mentioned here so I thought I'd mention it. (yes, I know, someone out there is thinking "gee lyra, do you have a crazy story for every occasion or what?!"   well yes, actually I do!  big_smile  They could fill a book.  Hmm.  Maybe I should write one...)

It was this past August.  I had fallen asleep early in the evening then woke at exactly 11:09 p.m.   119 are "my numbers" that follow me EVERYWHERE and indicate that "something is up" when I see them.   For me to wake at exactly 11:09 meant "something is up", a warning if you may.  I wasn't concerned because I wasn't alone in the apartment and I knew I'd be getting up soon anyway.  I fell back to sleep then finally woke again at exactly 1:11 a.m.   111....those mysterious numbers.   I got up and ate and read for the next 2 hours.   

At nearly 3 a.m. exactly, the magical "ET Hour" time of the night, my cat began seeing something we couldn't see in the apartment.  It, whatever it was, was moving on the ceiling over my bed.  She tracked it intently, and at several points was just frozen, bug eyed, tail flicking vigorously, whipping back and forth.  She'd move this way and that, following its movements with huge eyes over my bed, or walk away but look nervously back up at the ceiling over her shoulder.   

This made my nerves stand on end.   I'd already had number sightings, now this.  We looked, but didn't see anything, but, she could certainly see it.   I ignored it and went back to reading.   Synchronistically I was reading the Dean Koontz book "The Taking."   wink   Go figure.

I finally decided to go back to bed at about 5:30 a.m.   I had some messed up dreams, designed to extract emotions.  At one point, a "Gray" appeared out of NOWHERE in the dream.  It was suddenly there, standing in a doorway sideways, facing to the left.  It held a gun, and was just frozen in place.

I became lucid at this point.  This is where it got weird.   I consciously thought and asked in my dream "I want to SEE the hyperdimensional controllers!  I want to SEE them...I want to SEE what they look like.....Show me what they look like.........."

Be careful what you wish for.

The dream went from dream, to lucid dream, to astral / etheric state of consciousness.   As soon as I requested to SEE the hyper D controllers, BAM, this negative cloud decended.  I could feel it, and I immediately panicked and said "No!No!No!No!No!No!No!No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"   trying to take it back.

Too late.

Right then, "it", whatever it was, fell from the ceiling where it had been and landed on the carpet next to my airmattress with a thud.  It was humanoid in shape, the size of a large man, like 6 - 7 feet, brown black in color, but had no face, no distinguishable features.  When it landed next to me it was in an animalistic crouching position, with it's arms / hands situated between it's legs that were bent in a crouch.  It's head cocked from side to side as it leaned in close to investigate. I was now in some sort of astral / etheric awareness state, because I could see the room I was in with the lights and everything.  It was just slightly more hazy then normal, not clear and sharp.  But I was "awake", no longer sleeping. 

At first I recoiled and felt fear.  But the fear immediately subsided because I've just seen and been through SO much in the past 2 years that now it takes a LOT to keep the fear going.   I furrowed my brows and stared curiously at it, and my exact thought was "WHAT the f*ck is THAT?"  I kept staring at it staring at me.   

My reaction and fear subsiding seem to make it curious for a split second, like it wasn't expecting me to be staring at it so intensly, like maybe that wasn't the normal reaction it gets from people, and so it stared back at me in that animalistic crouching position.  Again though, there was no face. 

Didn't last long though.  Guess it got bored of the staring and wanted to go in for the kill, so to speak.   

Anybody here seen the movie "Jacob's Ladder" ?   Where the brown / black faceless entities' move very rapidly back and forth back and forth?   Before I ever saw that movie I had experiences with near identical entites doing the same identical thing, so, I'd LOVE to know where the writers of Jacob's Ladder got THAT idea from.   Well, this large humanoid beast thing began doing that, rigourously whipping back and forth, becoming a frenzied blur and making the creepiest noise.  That startled me and I panicked.   The paralysis latched on totally locking me into place.  I couldn't even twitch my face if I wanted to.   I panicked as this thing closed in on me.  I have no idea what it thought it was going to do but I wanted no part of it and was going to fight.  It took everything to pull myself out of it, like trying to pull yourself off of flypaper or something.

Finally I yanked myself out of it and sat up in bed gasping.  It wasn't there next to me anymore, totally gone.  I stared intently at that area, confused, fully expecting to see it there.  It was just there in my semi-lucid etheric / astral whatever you call it state.   But not there when I was awake. 

My cat could see it there though, above my bed before it dropped down from the ceiling and appeared to me when I was in a semi-lucid dream state.   We can't usually see things when we're awake, but cats and other animals can. 

Anyway, there's no real point to this story other than, it happened.   To me what's interesting is my cat seeing this thing moving around up on the ceiling and then the Gray appearing in the middle of my messed up dreams, indicating that negative entities were around. 

So that's that.  I gotta run, so I want to get this posted before I leave........

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Re: Experiences with ET/Aliens?

menses and marcus,

Congratulations for overcoming your trepidations and posting your sensitive material... you must feel comfortable enough in this "realm" to do so, and that's an awesome thing.

I have a curious question for each of you--do these types of dreams happen shortly within falling asleep, or do they happen in the middle of the night after you've been asleep for awhile?

I have found my most aggresive interactions happen within 10-15 mins. of falling asleep.

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Re: Experiences with ET/Aliens?

Marcus wrote:

I won’t go into specifics at this point as that nagging voice is getting ever stronger telling me not too.  Strange.  What I will say though is that I came across something one day whilst away from home, and that thing seemed to act as some form of talisman or charm.  Then one night the presence came again – in a physical form – and I didn’t fear, and I didn’t have anger.  I was purely neutral in my intent.  I left my bed and warned the entity away with the full intent that I would attack it if it didn’t leave.

After that, the presence came once or twice…it was very weak.  Then finally it left never to return…

Up until then I had never experienced anything like it; although two of my friends had spoken of similar instances that they had experienced.

Since then I have had a lot of other experiences through “dreams“?.  All of them odd.

The strangest thing of all – which leaves me pondering the whole issue afresh, is this; two nights ago, after returning to bed from the toilet, I passed through that area of the room where that entity had radiated from.  I stopped and looked at the place where I lay in bed, and for the briefest of moments I felt…I don’t know, something almost familiar – it was like a fleeting understanding and awareness of how I -  standing there at that moment - could project intent onto someone asleep…very odd…

Hi Marcus, all,

It occured to me as I was reading your encounter, that perhaps you were merging with an aspect of yourself? I have read much about how the incoming energy surge of what the Cs call The Wave, is heightening many aspects of our being. Our DNA is changing, intuitive sensitivities are increasing and of course knowledge/light is increasing too as more people seek to make sense of not only this world, but its relationship to the cosmos.

As I understand it currently, part of this is merging with our many identites. If you accept that the many aspects of ourselves that are out there are not all love and light, then it follows that we will encounter some "dark" energies that are seeking the light/knowledge that we are gaining with each journey into the unknown. I am not dismissing the probability of some kind of attack on you via this entity. I wonder what part of you is/was inhibiting you from telling of your expereince. Who would benefit from your being alone or islolated by this expereince? That is the question I pose to myself whenever odd things occur, and a little voice whispers to me not to tell. Not even to tell folk I know would be empathetic to this knowledge.

At present, I don't have such experiences, or haven't had in years, but I had them as a child and I recollect very clear "knowings" that there was something outside my bedroom door, or hiding in the wardrobe. I could sense it, but after a furtive prayer for blessings and protection, I would sleep well. I also recollect when working on my body by doing yoga in my teen years, that there was a group of beings which I saw once, that were on  "my side" so to speak. The one glimpse I had of them was like being surrounded by some very old familial friends. I knew them, but I could not remember from where.

I digress a bit, but the essential point I am making is that facing the "dark" is a challenge that we may all have to experience, and the crunch seems to be our ability to trust our own discernment when it comes to deciding what the given entity might be. I have memories of myself as a very dark and cruel female energy. Child killer no less, and know that I have merged with that personality, as she emerged when I gave birth to my son. It was once heck of an experience in the first two years of my son's life, as the forces that I had worked with at the time,(previous "dark" life) had re-incarnated into my life and sought to punish me for defecting from the dark so to speak. They couldn't get to me, so they tried to get to me through my son. It was touch and go for a while, suffice to say I am convinced that a premonatory dream I had saved my son's life, as I had placed him in the care of one of my former life allies. This lady was as dark as could be, but prejudices from this life blinded me from ever considering that people of African descent molest, abuse and kill children just as much as anybody else. Fortunately I got my son out before the sodomy started.

In leaving their circle of influence,and I mean literally cutting the cord, I found myself working so hard to forgive them and myself for what we, yes we, had done. This was very difficult, as my instinct was to go and punch the living daylights out of her, then go and burn her house down. I have never felt such rage as that. I know how people can go out and kill suspected paedophiles. After  a coupe of yearsof hard work, I realised I had forgiven then - which ineffect meant I had forgiven myself. My last expereince of that dark aspect of myself was as a memory, when I had moved onto another life, and my role was that of guardian angel to some kids in a Victorian type orphange. These kids were being terrorised by a being exactly like the one that I was in a former life. Of course, if you accept that there is no time, then I am living out thoselives as we speak. Boy, this can get complicated, but I hope you can see what I am getting at.

Your putting yourself in the exact spot the being was in and being able to see how the being did what it did to you, seems to be an important part of the equation. Maybe in knowing how the entity  did what it did, you neutralised more of the fear. Except there is that nagging voice telling you not to tell..... Interesting experience. thanks again

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  • Registered: 2004-12-06

Re: Experiences with ET/Aliens?

Menses,

At around the time I had placed my son in the care of those peadophiles (mentioned above), he (at age 3) mentioned that he had a visitor with red eyes that would scare him. After we left that sphere of influence, he never mentioned it again.

I truly understand how knowledge protects. After my painful awakening as to what my son was being primed for, our life became much better. The energies around us settled somewhat. Maybe it is worth noting who or what is in your sphere of influence at this time. As everything is energy or vibrational in nature, we will be impacted by our surroundings as well as our own thoughts. so monitoring of ones thoughts may also yield clues.

I once remember whilst reading The Wave series, my right eye blinked and I heard the sound of a camera shutter clicking. I immediately sensed that the H-D controllers were sending me a quick message to say "we are watching everything". Freaked me out for a while, cos it was like they were inside me and using my body to tell me that they were watching, but I continued reading in defiance. So from that, and other events, I got a knowing that just being aware of their presence and their role is enough. Afterall, there is not much I can do about them. But I can change my attitude to them from one of fear, to one of acceptance and knowing. I am not at war with beings I cannot see, so there is no loosh for them, as I don't give them too much of my attention.

Like Lyra, I have seen the shadow beings, but only as fleeting past me at the edges of my vision. I once felt one directly behind me -almost taunting me to face my fear and turn around. I purposely chose to breath calmly and NOT look, as if to say "I am not playing". After a few seconds, the dark energy lifted.

Perhaps the neutrality that Marcus showed towards his visitor is the key. But be assured; you are not alone in experiencing these events. Knowing the fear that they can tap into, like Auendove, I commend yours and Marcus' courage in sharing.

V

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7 Reply by Menses (edited by Menses 2004-12-16 15:48:30)

  • Registered: 2004-05-21

Re: Experiences with ET/Aliens?

All these experiences are very interesting and I suppose not suprising.  I just knew I couldnt be the only person who has had this kind of situation occur. 

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I truly understand how knowledge protects. After my painful awakening as to what my son was being primed for, our life became much better. The energies around us settled somewhat. Maybe it is worth noting who or what is in your sphere of influence at this time. As everything is energy or vibrational in nature, we will be impacted by our surroundings as well as our own thoughts. so monitoring of ones thoughts may also yield clues."


Vuyiswa...this is something that I believe did play a role in what happened to me.  To what degree, I may still have to learn.  The environment I grew up in was not the worst compared to some people...but it definitely was not the best....Very negative people...very negative energy surrounded me.


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My cat could see it there though, above my bed before it dropped down from the ceiling and appeared to me when I was in a semi-lucid dream state.   We can't usually see things when we're awake, but cats and other animals can. "


Lyra..this is something I have wanted to talk about but for some reason I keep forgetting to..why I have no idea.  I have always noticed that animals behave in a very strange manner.  As if they are aware of something we are not.  I really started to notice this once my family got a cat....and by the way my cat carries on...you would think 7 other people are in the room trying to pick her up..(she hates being picked up).  I had heard cats see things in other dimensions...and that is something I had heard before I even came to this website and it always stuck with me...She will go through these fits of absolute bedlam...where she is running from one end of the house to another..jumping 3 feet in the air and fighting the air..lol...and then completely go silent and go back to being unseen and unheard....Somethings got to give.